Division 2 2024

[seafoid]

I think anyone following armagh know that the depth of players commiting to the team at present hasn't been seen for the past 20odd years. There are quality players currently sitting on the bench we would have been building teams around 10 years ago, certainly a conundrum mcgeeney never had when he started.

In terms of success, ulster would certainly be a realistic possibility with the draw, and failing to win that would been seen as a failure to capitalise on all the elements aligning (a good team, good draw, and previous final experience).

This is a nonsense and part of the populist narrative in the county over the last couple of years.
We have a large panel of players of a very similar and good standard. A lot of players are interchangeable.

McGeeney demands an extremely high level or work and when they're all hitting that together it makes the team formidible. He's getting a tune out of lads at that level through conditioning and effort that I wouldn't have though possible watching them play club football.

However, Armagh don't have the number of high quality players that most of the division one teams have. Forker, Grugan and Murnin are the exceptions to that - they'd make any team in my view. This is why Rian is such a disappointment as he has exceptional ability but doesn't back it up with the work on and off the pitch the others do.

Beyond that group, everyone is replaceable by similar but that group is smaller than most top counties.

If Armagh are to win Ulster or All Ireland titles it will be a collective effort and a result of team ethic and approach tactically.

Would agree.  We can only really judge the quality of the players we have by how they perform in the bigger pressure championship games so for me if we're talking quality forwards, they need to be showing it on Ulster final day, All-Ireland quarter final etc.  A pressure free kick, a key score at a critical time, a goal. Something to show that they can impact a fairly big game against decent opposition. I can't say too many Armagh forwards have shown that in recent years.  They may have another chance this year so let's see.

Armagh have gone out on penalties in the quarter finals 2 years in a row. Surely a semi final if not more is the goal this year 

[Armagh18]

I think anyone following armagh know that the depth of players commiting to the team at present hasn't been seen for the past 20odd years. There are quality players currently sitting on the bench we would have been building teams around 10 years ago, certainly a conundrum mcgeeney never had when he started.

In terms of success, ulster would certainly be a realistic possibility with the draw, and failing to win that would been seen as a failure to capitalise on all the elements aligning (a good team, good draw, and previous final experience).

This is a nonsense and part of the populist narrative in the county over the last couple of years.
We have a large panel of players of a very similar and good standard. A lot of players are interchangeable.

McGeeney demands an extremely high level or work and when they're all hitting that together it makes the team formidible. He's getting a tune out of lads at that level through conditioning and effort that I wouldn't have though possible watching them play club football.

However, Armagh don't have the number of high quality players that most of the division one teams have. Forker, Grugan and Murnin are the exceptions to that - they'd make any team in my view. This is why Rian is such a disappointment as he has exceptional ability but doesn't back it up with the work on and off the pitch the others do.

Beyond that group, everyone is replaceable by similar but that group is smaller than most top counties.

If Armagh are to win Ulster or All Ireland titles it will be a collective effort and a result of team ethic and approach tactically.

Would agree.  We can only really judge the quality of the players we have by how they perform in the bigger pressure championship games so for me if we're talking quality forwards, they need to be showing it on Ulster final day, All-Ireland quarter final etc.  A pressure free kick, a key score at a critical time, a goal. Something to show that they can impact a fairly big game against decent opposition. I can't say too many Armagh forwards have shown that in recent years.  They may have another chance this year so let's see.

Armagh have gone out on penalties in the quarter finals 2 years in a row. Surely a semi final if not more is the goal this year 

Ulster title would be the first aim but yeah would be disappointed if we dont make a semi final as well.

[tonto1888]

I think anyone following armagh know that the depth of players commiting to the team at present hasn't been seen for the past 20odd years. There are quality players currently sitting on the bench we would have been building teams around 10 years ago, certainly a conundrum mcgeeney never had when he started.

In terms of success, ulster would certainly be a realistic possibility with the draw, and failing to win that would been seen as a failure to capitalise on all the elements aligning (a good team, good draw, and previous final experience).

This is a nonsense and part of the populist narrative in the county over the last couple of years.
We have a large panel of players of a very similar and good standard. A lot of players are interchangeable.

McGeeney demands an extremely high level or work and when they're all hitting that together it makes the team formidible. He's getting a tune out of lads at that level through conditioning and effort that I wouldn't have though possible watching them play club football.

However, Armagh don't have the number of high quality players that most of the division one teams have. Forker, Grugan and Murnin are the exceptions to that - they'd make any team in my view. This is why Rian is such a disappointment as he has exceptional ability but doesn't back it up with the work on and off the pitch the others do.

Beyond that group, everyone is replaceable by similar but that group is smaller than most top counties.

If Armagh are to win Ulster or All Ireland titles it will be a collective effort and a result of team ethic and approach tactically.

Would agree.  We can only really judge the quality of the players we have by how they perform in the bigger pressure championship games so for me if we're talking quality forwards, they need to be showing it on Ulster final day, All-Ireland quarter final etc.  A pressure free kick, a key score at a critical time, a goal. Something to show that they can impact a fairly big game against decent opposition. I can't say too many Armagh forwards have shown that in recent years.  They may have another chance this year so let's see.

Armagh have gone out on penalties in the quarter finals 2 years in a row. Surely a semi final if not more is the goal this year 

Ulster title would be the first aim but yeah would be disappointed if we dont make a semi final as well.

could end up getting dublin/kerry in a qf. That would greatly reduce any chance of a sf

[bennydorano]

That's it like Ireland at the Rugby, draw can screw you, even an outlier team in the group stage could hump you - Westmeath could have done us last year.

[Armagh18]

Top the group and we likely avoid them. Best way to do that is avoid them in group- so win Ulster.

[seafoid]

I think anyone following armagh know that the depth of players commiting to the team at present hasn't been seen for the past 20odd years. There are quality players currently sitting on the bench we would have been building teams around 10 years ago, certainly a conundrum mcgeeney never had when he started.

In terms of success, ulster would certainly be a realistic possibility with the draw, and failing to win that would been seen as a failure to capitalise on all the elements aligning (a good team, good draw, and previous final experience).

This is a nonsense and part of the populist narrative in the county over the last couple of years.
We have a large panel of players of a very similar and good standard. A lot of players are interchangeable.

McGeeney demands an extremely high level or work and when they're all hitting that together it makes the team formidible. He's getting a tune out of lads at that level through conditioning and effort that I wouldn't have though possible watching them play club football.

However, Armagh don't have the number of high quality players that most of the division one teams have. Forker, Grugan and Murnin are the exceptions to that - they'd make any team in my view. This is why Rian is such a disappointment as he has exceptional ability but doesn't back it up with the work on and off the pitch the others do.

Beyond that group, everyone is replaceable by similar but that group is smaller than most top counties.

If Armagh are to win Ulster or All Ireland titles it will be a collective effort and a result of team ethic and approach tactically.

Would agree.  We can only really judge the quality of the players we have by how they perform in the bigger pressure championship games so for me if we're talking quality forwards, they need to be showing it on Ulster final day, All-Ireland quarter final etc.  A pressure free kick, a key score at a critical time, a goal. Something to show that they can impact a fairly big game against decent opposition. I can't say too many Armagh forwards have shown that in recent years.  They may have another chance this year so let's see.

Armagh have gone out on penalties in the quarter finals 2 years in a row. Surely a semi final if not more is the goal this year 

Ulster title would be the first aim but yeah would be disappointed if we dont make a semi final as well.

could end up getting dublin/kerry in a qf. That would greatly reduce any chance of a sf

Chances of not getting them if Armagh do not win their group are 1 in  2 unless the hoors meet each other in a qf. 
Armagh should really get to a semi this year because they have the quality and the momentum from D2.

[Cavan19]

Have you heurs no thread of your own here to waffle away on.

[Armagh18]

Have you heurs no thread of your own here to waffle away on.

Awk sure we be in the divsion 1 thread next year not need to worry

[Itchy]

Have you heurs no thread of your own here to waffle away on.

Awk sure we be in the divsion 1 thread next year not need to worry

Yeh and we will have to listen to the fecking mushroom men in here then.

[Captain Obvious]

Have you heurs no thread of your own here to waffle away on.

Awk sure we be in the divsion 1 thread next year not need to worry

Yeh and we will have to listen to the fecking mushroom men in here then.

The stuff used to grow mushrooms would be the best description of the Cavan performance and effort last weekend.

[seafoid]

It'll be hard for the stayers to get out of D2 next year as well.

[5times5times]

Is next years Div2 tougher than this years?

3x ulster
3x leinster
1x munster & connacht

Monaghan
Roscommon (likely)
Westmeath
Down (likely)
Louth
Cork
Meath
Cavan

[Armagh18]

You'd fancy Monaghan to come straight back- good chance to blood young lads next year. If Cork got off to a good start next year they won't be far away and the Rossies will be strong as well so Cavan will have their work cut out.

[Armagh18]

Is next years Div2 tougher than this years?

3x ulster
3x leinster
1x munster & connacht

Monaghan
Roscommon (likely)
Westmeath
Down (likely)
Louth
Cork
Meath
Cavan

Kildare were pushovers this year. Down and Westmeath will be stronger than them and Fermanagh imo.

Think ourselves and Donegal similar level or slightly stronger than Monaghan and Roscommon. Surely Meath won't be as useless as this year, Cavan had been going well up until folding against us and Louth were dealt a big blow losing Harte the way they did so would expect them to be better next year.

[tonto1888]

Is next years Div2 tougher than this years?

3x ulster
3x leinster
1x munster & connacht

Monaghan
Roscommon (likely)
Westmeath
Down (likely)
Louth
Cork
Meath
Cavan

Kildare were pushovers this year. Down and Westmeath will be stronger than them and Fermanagh imo.

Think ourselves and Donegal similar level or slightly stronger than Monaghan and Roscommon. Surely Meath won't be as useless as this year, Cavan had been going well up until folding against us and Louth were dealt a big blow losing Harte the way they did so would expect them to be better next year.

Gonna be funny when down balls it up at the weekend