Petrolhead culture

[Armagh18]

I'm not gonna lie. I distinctly remember myself and my mates getting into completely unnecessary situations on the road where we quite literally nearly killed people. Our reaction at the time was to laugh at it. I look back in horror at the way we behaved.

There is something about the teenage brain that leads to increased risk-taking.

A Teen's Brain Isn't Fully Developed Until Age 25

Regulation of teenage driving needs to be seriously tightened up. In California they're quite strict.

For the first 12 months after obtaining a provisional license, a teenager is not allowed to have passengers under the age of 20 in the car unless they are accompanied by a licensed driver 25 years or older.

There's also a curfew. Teen drivers with a provisional license are not allowed to drive between 11 pm and 5 am for the first 12 months after obtaining their license.

Teenagers can't use a mobile phone when driving, even with a hands-free device, except in an emergency.

Drink-driving laws for teenagers take a zero-tolerance approach. Teenagers caught driving with any amount of alcohol in their system will face severe consequences, including license suspension and possible criminal charges.

i'd say most of us are guilty of driving faster or more recklessly than we should, especially as teens, but then you do wise up and sometimes it takes a scare or 2 or unfortunately someone you know to be hurt or die in a crash sometimes to wise you up. Think the phone is a massive thing now, the amount of people you see texting and driving is scary, it is a bad habit. 

[clonian]

On  similiar vein to this road safety issue, I think it should be complusory that anyone out walking, day or evening, should have a hi-viz vest on.

The amount of people I see out at dusk walking, wear black/dark clothes is scary.

Plus all school uniforms and bags should have a few hi-viz strips or reflections on them.  I'd say it'd be simple enough to design and install.

If roads are so dangerous that people have to dress like construction workers just to go about their daily business then we've got a serious problem that no amount of high-viz is going to fix.

Bit arrogant that answer and not addressing the issue I raised about people out walking at dusk with dark clothes on nor re: school uniforms.

But hey anything for a quick quip.

So you want to live in a society where we all walk about our streets looking like we just stepped off a building site? Are you serious?

I assume he's talking about people out walking on country roads with no footpath.

[Armagh18]

On  similiar vein to this road safety issue, I think it should be complusory that anyone out walking, day or evening, should have a hi-viz vest on.

The amount of people I see out at dusk walking, wear black/dark clothes is scary.

Plus all school uniforms and bags should have a few hi-viz strips or reflections on them.  I'd say it'd be simple enough to design and install.

If roads are so dangerous that people have to dress like construction workers just to go about their daily business then we've got a serious problem that no amount of high-viz is going to fix.

Bit arrogant that answer and not addressing the issue I raised about people out walking at dusk with dark clothes on nor re: school uniforms.

But hey anything for a quick quip.

So you want to live in a society where we all walk about our streets looking like we just stepped off a building site? Are you serious?

I assume he's talking about people out walking on country roads with no footpath.

You really shouldnt be walking on roads like that without one imo.

[clonian]

On  similiar vein to this road safety issue, I think it should be complusory that anyone out walking, day or evening, should have a hi-viz vest on.

The amount of people I see out at dusk walking, wear black/dark clothes is scary.

Plus all school uniforms and bags should have a few hi-viz strips or reflections on them.  I'd say it'd be simple enough to design and install.

If roads are so dangerous that people have to dress like construction workers just to go about their daily business then we've got a serious problem that no amount of high-viz is going to fix.

Bit arrogant that answer and not addressing the issue I raised about people out walking at dusk with dark clothes on nor re: school uniforms.

But hey anything for a quick quip.

So you want to live in a society where we all walk about our streets looking like we just stepped off a building site? Are you serious?

I assume he's talking about people out walking on country roads with no footpath.

You really shouldnt be walking on roads like that without one imo.

Do you mean you shouldn't walk on a road without a footpath or you should be wearing hi-viz if doing so?

[thewobbler]

On  similiar vein to this road safety issue, I think it should be complusory that anyone out walking, day or evening, should have a hi-viz vest on.

The amount of people I see out at dusk walking, wear black/dark clothes is scary.

Plus all school uniforms and bags should have a few hi-viz strips or reflections on them.  I'd say it'd be simple enough to design and install.

If roads are so dangerous that people have to dress like construction workers just to go about their daily business then we've got a serious problem that no amount of high-viz is going to fix.

Bit arrogant that answer and not addressing the issue I raised about people out walking at dusk with dark clothes on nor re: school uniforms.

But hey anything for a quick quip.

So you want to live in a society where we all walk about our streets looking like we just stepped off a building site? Are you serious?

I walk bendy, hilly country roads every evening for 4-6 miles.

I will have a hi-vis on me if there's any chance at all, that I'll be out during or after dusk.

Why?

Because it requires no effort to do, but makes everyone else's life's easier who is using the same roads. Which means there's less chance of me getting killed.

But I suppose i am a rational person, capable of seeing the bigger picture. Cyclists like yourself Eamon, you're not rational people.

[Applesisapples]

In my view sometimes it takes a close call or a friend/family/community member to unfortunately lose their lives on the roads for it to hit home to young ones what impact driving can have, not even dangerous driving at that. 

For young ones, possible overconfidence can lead to accidents.  Like driving down a familiar road at speed etc.  I know a few that have written off cars on roads less than a mile from home, just because they think they know every inch of it, gives them the right to drive it how they please. 

I think about this sometimes now when I'm driving as I have certainly changed now that I have gotten older. Now i'm not saying I was a complete tube in my early 20s but I didnt like to be stuck behind someone that I perceived to be crawling. I did have a very near miss while overtaking on a straight section of a country road that I thought I knew well.  A car came out of the hidden dip straight on and I was so lucky to avoid a serious collision. I was in the car by myself too so it isn't as if I was playing the big one to peers.  It certainly put manners on me.

Age has certainly also changed my need to drive on the upper side of the speed limit, and the mythical 10% you are allowed.

The thing that slowed me down is the average fuel consumption gauge. I have noticed also the numbers of speedsters flying past me that I catch up with at the next junction/lights or village.

[Armagh18]

On  similiar vein to this road safety issue, I think it should be complusory that anyone out walking, day or evening, should have a hi-viz vest on.

The amount of people I see out at dusk walking, wear black/dark clothes is scary.

Plus all school uniforms and bags should have a few hi-viz strips or reflections on them.  I'd say it'd be simple enough to design and install.

If roads are so dangerous that people have to dress like construction workers just to go about their daily business then we've got a serious problem that no amount of high-viz is going to fix.

Bit arrogant that answer and not addressing the issue I raised about people out walking at dusk with dark clothes on nor re: school uniforms.

But hey anything for a quick quip.

So you want to live in a society where we all walk about our streets looking like we just stepped off a building site? Are you serious?

I assume he's talking about people out walking on country roads with no footpath.

You really shouldnt be walking on roads like that without one imo.

Do you mean you shouldn't walk on a road without a footpath or you should be wearing hi-viz if doing so?

Well ideally you shouldn't walk in the dark/ near dark on a road with no footpath at all but definitely not without a hi viz. I've had a few near misses with idiots walking in dark clothes.

[Armagh18]

On  similiar vein to this road safety issue, I think it should be complusory that anyone out walking, day or evening, should have a hi-viz vest on.

The amount of people I see out at dusk walking, wear black/dark clothes is scary.

Plus all school uniforms and bags should have a few hi-viz strips or reflections on them.  I'd say it'd be simple enough to design and install.

If roads are so dangerous that people have to dress like construction workers just to go about their daily business then we've got a serious problem that no amount of high-viz is going to fix.

Bit arrogant that answer and not addressing the issue I raised about people out walking at dusk with dark clothes on nor re: school uniforms.

But hey anything for a quick quip.

So you want to live in a society where we all walk about our streets looking like we just stepped off a building site? Are you serious?

I walk bendy, hilly country roads every evening for 4-6 miles.

I will have a hi-vis on me if there's any chance at all, that I'll be out during or after dusk.

Why?

Because it requires no effort to do, but makes everyone else's life's easier who is using the same roads. Which means there's less chance of me getting killed.

But I suppose i am a rational person, capable of seeing the bigger picture. Cyclists like yourself Eamon, you're not rational people.

Ahh. One of them...

[AustinPowers]

In my view sometimes it takes a close call or a friend/family/community member to unfortunately lose their lives on the roads for it to hit home to young ones what impact driving can have, not even dangerous driving at that. 

For young ones, possible overconfidence can lead to accidents.  Like driving down a familiar road at speed etc.  I know a few that have written off cars on roads less than a mile from home, just because they think they know every inch of it, gives them the right to drive it how they please. 

I think about this sometimes now when I'm driving as I have certainly changed now that I have gotten older. Now i'm not saying I was a complete tube in my early 20s but I didnt like to be stuck behind someone that I perceived to be crawling. I did have a very near miss while overtaking on a straight section of a country road that I thought I knew well.  A car came out of the hidden dip straight on and I was so lucky to avoid a serious collision. I was in the car by myself too so it isn't as if I was playing the big one to peers.  It certainly put manners on me.

Age has certainly also changed my need to drive on the upper side of the speed limit, and the mythical 10% you are allowed.

The thing that slowed me down is the average fuel consumption gauge. I have noticed also the numbers of speedsters flying past me that I catch up with at the next junction/lights or village.

Yeah , that's the thing.  Most journeys people do are  only a  few miles from home. If you  set the shoe down  and fly home , how sooner will  you  arrive? 30 seconds? A minute?  What's the point? 

[Armagh18]

Hard to drive on too much these days with the state of the roads. New pothole every day lol

[Tony Baloney]

Port Sunday this weekend so you'll see local car culture in all its "glory". Port Sunday, Court Monday.

[Eamonnca1]

Port Sunday this weekend so you'll see local car culture in all its "glory". Port Sunday, Court Monday.

Christ. Seems like you're absolutely right.

[Armagh18]

Awk let them be. Wouldnt interest me but theres people that pour serious money into those cars. As long as they're modified safely theres no issue.

[armaghniac]

Awk let them be. Wouldnt interest me but theres people that pour serious money into those cars. As long as they're modified safely theres no issue.

They also need to be driven safely.

[gallsman]

They just drive slowly and loudly up and down a street?! Had no idea this was a thing

Plenty of unsafe driving there in the middle of a traffic jam ffs. Imagine what they're like on open roads.