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Is the U20 final dependent on who wins the other semi final? Did I read somewhere if its Mayo then its 31st May / 1st June but if its Louth it will be the week after?

Agree with that Mikhailov, I think from the county minors changed to U17 the correlation is not really there to a good senior anymore as well. Stating the obvious when you're watching 16 year olds but the S&C levels you need to get to makes it extremely hard to get a good guage on who could make it through, you can see it even in the amount of minors who don't make Tyrone U20's in the following years.

The Irish Independent reporting that the All Ireland Under 20 final could be pushed back as far as 31st May / 1st June due to player involvement in both under 20 and senior panels for respective counties. Obviously Tyrone might not beat Kerry in which case the league can start but we obviously cannot be waiting until 6th-8th June to be playing round 1.

"The All-Ireland U-20 football final could face a two-week delay as the consequences of the 60-hour rule, introduced at Congress last year, are felt in the coming weeks.

The original date for the final, Saturday/Sunday May 17/18 won't be met as the All-Ireland semi-final between Mayo and Louth has already been pushed back to the Friday of that weekend, in Glennon Brothers Pearse Park, Longford at 7.00pm, because of goalkeeper Tiernan Markey's involvement with both Louth senior and U-20 squads."

The Irish Independent reporting that the All Ireland Under 20 final could be pushed back as far as 31st May / 1st June due to player involvement in both under 20 and senior panels for respective counties. Obviously Tyrone might not beat Kerry in which case the league can start but we obviously cannot be waiting until 6th-8th June to be playing round 1.

Not dying about the 2 points for some wins and 3 for others, serious swings to be had depending on when you play certain opponents. Had to change something though, that carry on last year of 8/9 games in August was going to happen every year going forward, probably this year as well, as Tyrone will be playing to minimum end of June if not later most years. Looking at 10 league games and a championship left to play after Tyrone's exit probably had stopped being feasible with new inter county structure.

Was this rushed through, given the county format is changing again next year to the Down model? Would that of free'd up more time for club or is it more of the same?

Re: the 2021 final.  I'm not just saying it now , but I was certain beforehand Tyrone would  win it. Moreso than Mayo  losing it.

I don't think  Mayo had any  sort of meltdown that  day, did they?  Not that I recall anyway . Tyrone just seemed  to get the big scores at the right time

100% AP, everyone I spoke to within the county was the same too, absolute confidence after beating Kerry. Now that semi final, I was not confident at all, but one game can change everything

First-come first-served for Armagh season ticket holders. it doesn't say how many are available; 500 would be quite different from 2000.

You still crying? Go down to the local club that weekend, just FYI they play 60 minutes not 70. The umpires won't be wearing white coats either.

Monaghan are some county. 5th lowest population in Ireland and have been a top 10 football team for 15 years, and it looks like continuing. Their forward line will make up for the loss of Conor McManus through the sum of their parts, Bannigan and O'Hanlon are quality, as well as Jack McCarron. Then you have Beggan, Conor McCarthy and Gary Mohan coming from deep. Still a good team that will take beating, fair play to them

I see Omagh CBS have just got through to the final of the 4th year competition, having already won the 2nd year and 5th year in this school year. This after back to back Hogan's is some going. What was the craic up there with the entry requirements, it used to be a grammar until recently, now anyone can go? They are getting the whole county of Tyrone west of about Pomeroy, this could go on for a while

[1/10 suggests not. Louth,Kildare and Meath are all 14/1 to win the title.]

The year that Dublin finally doesn't win/get caught on the hop in Leinster?  1/10 suggests not.  Louth,Kildare and Meath are all 14/1 to win the title.

They've actually been 1/6 to win Leinster on BoyleSports for 2 months. I know that's still extremely extremely short but who is stopping them realistically. A risky but sound investment perhaps

Tyrone the same with Paul Devlin doing great things at U20, but not many people took him too serious when senior position became available

Eamon Young, James Sargent, Johnny McGuckian is some half forward line for this level. Donegal are dangerous but it could be the same as last year, where whoever wins when Tyrone and Derry meet will be thinking of an All Ireland.

Galway and Mayo probably need watched having been the minor final 3 years ago but hard to know how much continuity you can take from U17 to U20

[Cause the ulster council think it's a forgone conclusion that Donegal V Armagh final.]

I see journalist John Fogarty on the Irish Examiner has said "serious chance of Ulster final returning to Croke Park this year"  good idea or leave it in Clones?

why?

Cause the ulster council think it's a forgone conclusion that Donegal V Armagh final. They've already lined up the ladies final for same day as they think both counties will be in it.
Let the other 7 counties ruin the Ukster Councils plans.

Armagh will not be competing in this year's Ulster final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk87a7r0V60

They finished below Clonoe and Coalisland last year and lost to both of them. Good pre season if that counts for anything but I wouldn't have them over those two.

Any word on league fixtures?

As I've said the game is bent, there is absolutely no way Wexford beat Limerick in any fashion.

Limerick had a few household names playing too, don't know how thrilled they would be with scoring 1-12 no matter if it was a dead rubber or not