East wall #Irelandisfull

[Eamonnca1]

What persecution is there in Georgia or who is being persecuted?
As for "full" Holland is half the size of Ireland but has up to 3 times the population.
Have they a housing "crisis"?
We need to replace Neoliberalism in housing and go back to the 1922 to 1991 social democratic model.

Holland is a great bunch of lands but it is hopelessly overpopulated. So is Belgium.
There is a region that covers South East England, the Benelux countries and parts of Northern Germany
and population per sq km is over 300 - way more than in most of the rest of Europe.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/ae7stj/europe_population_density_map/

How is it overpopulated? People in Dutch cities seem to live quite comfortably.

It's not clear how the model would work under stressed conditions. The population was 10m in 1950.
Most European populations have increased substantially since neoliberalism kicked off.  Now it's 17.5m
People just assume that things will work out.

Switzerland had to feed itself during WW2. All available land was used. The population was 4m. Now it's 8m

Bigger populations in towns and cities means better economies of scale. For example they say that to justify a tram system you need ~100,000 or more living in the same urban area. They can build cool public transport systems like that on the continent because they have the population to support it. If Ireland is to get with the program then it'll need more people living in urban areas, not fewer. The idea that there's an upper limit to population is laughable, and it's even more laughable to suggest that Ireland is anywhere close to it.

We are going through a very unstable phase, as 70,000 Ukrainians in Ireland show. We don't know what the future will bring, Climate change is probably not good for food production. There are effective limits to populations.

Citation needed.

[J70]

What are the demographics of the refugees

Lots of single men saying they are homosexual I'm guessing, and will be persecuted/stoned to death if they return to their home country

You're guessing?

[Saffrongael]

What are the demographics of the refugees

Lots of single men saying they are homosexual I'm guessing, and will be persecuted/stoned to death if they return to their home country

You're guessing?

No, it's an established tactic of asylum seekers

[Milltown Row2]

They all hang out at the Kremlin on Sunday afternoon sure!!

[whitey]

Anyone, anywhere, at anytime could say they're under threat

What level of proof is needed in order to successfully claim asylum?

FFS someone I know owes drug debts and had to flee Ireland for the UK due to threats-maybe he could apply for asylum

[Eamonnca1]

The Irish process for claiming asylum. Wild how they're not allowed to work or start a business.

[armaghniac]

The Irish process for claiming asylum. Wild how they're not allowed to work or start a business.

Of course they are not allowed start a business until they are allowed stay, otherwise you would have complete free for all.
As for work, the government should give them work to do to pay for their keep.

[seafoid]

What persecution is there in Georgia or who is being persecuted?
As for "full" Holland is half the size of Ireland but has up to 3 times the population.
Have they a housing "crisis"?
We need to replace Neoliberalism in housing and go back to the 1922 to 1991 social democratic model.

Holland is a great bunch of lands but it is hopelessly overpopulated. So is Belgium.
There is a region that covers South East England, the Benelux countries and parts of Northern Germany
and population per sq km is over 300 - way more than in most of the rest of Europe.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/ae7stj/europe_population_density_map/

How is it overpopulated? People in Dutch cities seem to live quite comfortably.

It's not clear how the model would work under stressed conditions. The population was 10m in 1950.
Most European populations have increased substantially since neoliberalism kicked off.  Now it's 17.5m
People just assume that things will work out.

Switzerland had to feed itself during WW2. All available land was used. The population was 4m. Now it's 8m

Bigger populations in towns and cities means better economies of scale. For example they say that to justify a tram system you need ~100,000 or more living in the same urban area. They can build cool public transport systems like that on the continent because they have the population to support it. If Ireland is to get with the program then it'll need more people living in urban areas, not fewer. The idea that there's an upper limit to population is laughable, and it's even more laughable to suggest that Ireland is anywhere close to it.

We are going through a very unstable phase, as 70,000 Ukrainians in Ireland show. We don't know what the future will bring, Climate change is probably not good for food production. There are effective limits to populations.

Citation needed.

War reduces the carrying capacity of a country. That's why there are 70,000 Ukrainians in Ireland. Modern systems break fmdown under sustained chaos.

[Rudi]

https://gript.ie/watch-parents-protest-as-migrants-placed-in-school-in-drimnagh-2/

[Milltown Row2]

https://gript.ie/watch-parents-protest-as-migrants-placed-in-school-in-drimnagh-2/

Save our schools? Was the school going to be used permanently as a refugee camp? And demanding a deep clean? Christ the night

As for more men than women, here's another take on it

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/five-explanations-to-why-the-majority-of-refugees/?fbclid=IwAR1Yu_Rpau876qKkw5K4BTmQF2dJWILj4cu2qMxdPYlnAWaV6SmD1_IRlwo

[tonto1888]

That's a talking point you hear a lot in the US too.

So are those who oppose the accommodating of asylum seekers on those grounds actually involved in helping the homeless in Ireland?

What do the homeless advocacy charities and organizations have to say about refugees?

I encounter a lot of homeless in Belfast and the reality is most, if not all, have a roof over their head if they so wish. a lot are suffering addiction and to score the next hit they need to be out on the streets after curfew.

Yes I suppose a  lot of them are addict s, but some maybe lost a job/divorced etc  and couldn't afford astronomical rents  on their own

I suppose  solving the drug  crisis is another matter entirely though.

Its drugs and alcohol, not getting divorced or losing jobs

Divorce and/or losing jobs may lead to the drugs and alcohol

[tonto1888]

What are the demographics of the refugees

Lots of single men saying they are homosexual I'm guessing, and will be persecuted/stoned to death if they return to their home country

I would say this is incorrect

[tonto1888]

Anyone, anywhere, at anytime could say they're under threat

What level of proof is needed in order to successfully claim asylum?

FFS someone I know owes drug debts and had to flee Ireland for the UK due to threats-maybe he could apply for asylum

probably not. What would his claim be? Under which of the 5 convention grounds would be claim under?

[Saffrongael]

What are the demographics of the refugees

Lots of single men saying they are homosexual I'm guessing, and will be persecuted/stoned to death if they return to their home country

I would say this is incorrect

It's not

[trailer]

Before the Famine Ireland's population was Circa 8m. Total population now is ~ 7m. The idea that Ireland is "full" is for the birds.

Obviously the infrastructure needs improved but that can be achieved.