East wall #Irelandisfull

[thebigfella]

Nobody encourages abortion ffs

[Milltown Row2]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

[burdizzo]

Nobody encourages abortion ffs

Our abortion legislation is pretty liberal. Having to go to England to get one was a way of discouraging it.

[burdizzo]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

We have a small population to start with, so big amounts of immigration will dilute it more than it would in countries with large populations, e.g. Britain or Germany. In the last 20 years, we've gone from a pretty homogenous country, to having 20% non-Irish. Extrapolate forward? I think it more amazing to think that people reckon it'll never happen. Talk about burying your head in the sand. It might not be 50 years, it might be 60 years. Could be less, even. But certainly by 2100.

[From the Bunker]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

The CSO found that, as of June 6, 84,613 people from Ukraine have arrived in Ireland as refugees since Russia began its war on Ukraine in February 2022.

Ireland refugee statistics for 2022 was 81,256.00, a 748.98% increase from 2021. Ireland refugee statistics for 2021 was 9,571.00, a 5.93% increase from 2020. Ireland refugee statistics for 2020 was 9,035.00, a 15.91% increase from 2019.

The majority illegal immigrants reside unknown to the authorities. No official data exist on the size of this group and estimates are difficult. In 2020 the NGO, Migrant Rights Centre Ireland, estimated that there were 17,000 – 20,000 undocumented persons in the State, including 2,000 – 3,000 children.

These figures are going one way only. In a generation there won't be many family tress confined to the Island.

[Milltown Row2]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

We have a small population to start with, so big amounts of immigration will dilute it more than it would in countries with large populations, e.g. Britain or Germany. In the last 20 years, we've gone from a pretty homogenous country, to having 20% non-Irish. Extrapolate forward? I think it more amazing to think that people reckon it'll never happen. Talk about burying your head in the sand. It might not be 50 years, it might be 60 years. Could be less, even. But certainly by 2100.

So you don't have credible link to back up that claim? You are obviously basing it on some information??

[general_lee]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

We have a small population to start with, so big amounts of immigration will dilute it more than it would in countries with large populations, e.g. Britain or Germany. In the last 20 years, we've gone from a pretty homogenous country, to having 20% non-Irish. Extrapolate forward? I think it more amazing to think that people reckon it'll never happen. Talk about burying your head in the sand. It might not be 50 years, it might be 60 years. Could be less, even. But certainly by 2100.

So you don't have credible link to back up that claim? You are obviously basing it on some information??

He's been reading too much mein kampf

[thebigfella]

Nobody encourages abortion ffs

Our abortion legislation is pretty liberal. Having to go to England to get one was a way of discouraging it.

Not it isn't and you can't just claim every thing you don't agree with is too Liberal.

[J70]

Nobody encourages abortion ffs

Our abortion legislation is pretty liberal. Having to go to England to get one was a way of discouraging it.

Would have been more liberal way earlier had the availability of abortions in England not been present. But even then the option was within fairly handy reach, so the 5000 abortions/year could just be ignored as we went about our grand wee existence.

[trailer]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

We have a small population to start with, so big amounts of immigration will dilute it more than it would in countries with large populations, e.g. Britain or Germany. In the last 20 years, we've gone from a pretty homogenous country, to having 20% non-Irish. Extrapolate forward? I think it more amazing to think that people reckon it'll never happen. Talk about burying your head in the sand. It might not be 50 years, it might be 60 years. Could be less, even. But certainly by 2100.

Do we consider the travelling community Irish?

[burdizzo]

Yes.

[From the Bunker]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

We have a small population to start with, so big amounts of immigration will dilute it more than it would in countries with large populations, e.g. Britain or Germany. In the last 20 years, we've gone from a pretty homogenous country, to having 20% non-Irish. Extrapolate forward? I think it more amazing to think that people reckon it'll never happen. Talk about burying your head in the sand. It might not be 50 years, it might be 60 years. Could be less, even. But certainly by 2100.

So you don't have credible link to back up that claim? You are obviously basing it on some information??

He's basing it on what he sees around him. Why does there have to be a link? Can people not think for themselves anymore.

Do the Maths.

Census 2022 - Irish and Non-Irish Citizenship

[Milltown Row2]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

We have a small population to start with, so big amounts of immigration will dilute it more than it would in countries with large populations, e.g. Britain or Germany. In the last 20 years, we've gone from a pretty homogenous country, to having 20% non-Irish. Extrapolate forward? I think it more amazing to think that people reckon it'll never happen. Talk about burying your head in the sand. It might not be 50 years, it might be 60 years. Could be less, even. But certainly by 2100.

So you don't have credible link to back up that claim? You are obviously basing it on some information??

He's basing it on what he sees around him. Why does there have to be a link? Can people not think for themselves anymore.

Do the Maths.

Census 2022 - Irish and Non-Irish Citizenship

You worried?

[Main Street]

Does any Irish citizen have any stake heritage wise in any county the reside in outside of here?

So in 50 years time you actually believe that in Ireland there will be more foreigners/refugees/immigrants than Irish?

What complete crap! Talk me through that one please

We have a small population to start with, so big amounts of immigration will dilute it more than it would in countries with large populations, e.g. Britain or Germany. In the last 20 years, we've gone from a pretty homogenous country, to having 20% non-Irish. Extrapolate forward? I think it more amazing to think that people reckon it'll never happen. Talk about burying your head in the sand. It might not be 50 years, it might be 60 years. Could be less, even. But certainly by 2100.

So you don't have credible link to back up that claim? You are obviously basing it on some information??

He's basing it on what he sees around him. Why does there have to be a link? Can people not think for themselves anymore.

Do the Maths.

Census 2022 - Irish and Non-Irish Citizenship

I do the maths and read 12% non Irish in 2022, 3% not stated.

Is there any research to support the claims made that non Irish born will be in a majority in 50/60/70 years time? I don't take serious just any crackpot sounding random claim made by people who just make stuff up based on what they see around them.  Imagine your Ireland view if you lived in Tyrone?
Anything I have come across predicts Ireland's population growth will diminish in all areas after 2030 and flatten off after 2047

[burdizzo]

Since citizenship is handed out fairly handily, I think it's better to look at numbers born outside the country - and that stands at 20%.
 
Is there any research? Yes, there is. Here's a link: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irish-could-be-minority-ethnic-group-here-by-2050-professor-1.424517

Personally, I'm not sure those predictions are right. However, and as I mentioned in this thread before, you only have to look at what's happening in the cities in Britain to see that the demographics are only going one way.