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GAA Discussion / Re: Should An Glenn object?
« on: January 25, 2023, 10:57:54 PM »
Should the first order of business for the incoming player not be to tell the guy he’s replacing that he’s off.

Someone obviously told Mannion he was being replaced because you can see him react to the news (looked surprised)

While it may have been unintentional Dublin teams  have form when it comes to this type of shenanigans.

Costello’s against Mayo, throwing 3 keepers tees away (and David Clark sending the resultant kick out over the sideline)

Jason Sherlock’s constant “incursions” as Major Foirne we’re so outrageous, they actually abolished the role

Let’s remove all doubt and replay the game

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 25, 2023, 01:55:24 PM »
Just put them back on the plane and be done with it.. If it was that easy, why are people spending thousands of pounds to get to England and now Ireland by dinghy when you just have to get on a plane? Seems a bit daft?

You can't just put them back on the plane and be done with it. If we could it would be a lot easier. Though you still would have the problems of getting the aircraft to take them etc

If they have come in on a plane it generally is a return flight? If the yanks do it why can't the Irish do it? Still doesn't answer why they even get on those dangerous boats when they talk about spending thousands of pounds to get here.. Fly and claim asylum

Not necessarily. Let's remember, a lot of these people wont have booked the flights, they will have given money to a facilitator. They may not remember, or know, which airports they have passed through enroute to get here, so where do we return them to? This isn't a refusal of leave to enter you are talking about where you can return them on the next available flight, it's asylum. It is a different ball game.
Can the Yanks actually do it? Are there circumstances in which they can do it and cannot do it?

You just send them back to the airport that they came from? They facilitated it they can deal with it..

Again if I turn up at JFK with no documentations and claim asylum will they allow me to stay or send me back to Shannon airport?

There’s a good chance you’d end up in Rikers or some Federal Holding facility that would be 59 times worse than where you came from

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 25, 2023, 12:38:13 PM »
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/07/gang-rape-victims-trauma-after-heathrow-passengers-stop-attackers-deportation-9128061/amp/

Can you imagine the ruckus some of them would kick up on the plane if they tried to put them on the next plane back?

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 25, 2023, 12:17:44 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, it’s up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then that’s on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ain’t arriving on dinghy’s

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

I’m not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their lives…

It’s completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ain’t arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) they’ll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. That’s why Trump implemented the “wait in Mexico”  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers license….probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So it’s not international law when you land at an airport that they can’t send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??

in terms of asylum, the 1951 convention. If you claim asylum your claim has to be considered. Doesn't matter if you are documented or not. Some of the people who arrive with without passports wont ever have had them in their possession anyway

Serious question

How do you arrive on a plane without a passport?

Yeah like how does that happen? You are leaving Albania airport, you get to check in, with no passport, you then get to security with no passport then get on the plane? It's not Home alone 2

A lot of times one person will hold the passports, in this case the facilitator. Once they arrive at the airport the facilitator will keep the passports and go through the PCP and leave the people he or she was supposed to help to fend for themselves.

And it’s very possible the passports are fake to begin with, and that someone at the departure airport could be bribed it threatened into letting people board

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 25, 2023, 09:13:12 AM »
People are leaving to better themselves, it’s up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then that’s on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ain’t arriving on dinghy’s

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

I’m not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their lives…

It’s completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ain’t arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) they’ll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. That’s why Trump implemented the “wait in Mexico”  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers license….probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So it’s not international law when you land at an airport that they can’t send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??

in terms of asylum, the 1951 convention. If you claim asylum your claim has to be considered. Doesn't matter if you are documented or not. Some of the people who arrive with without passports wont ever have had them in their possession anyway

Serious question

How do you arrive on a plane without a passport?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Should An Glenn object?
« on: January 25, 2023, 12:08:32 AM »
In Fairness  if it was a Tyrone team in place of Dubs,  we would already have decided that they did it on purpose and  a replay would already be ordered a or the game would be awarded to the opposition ;)
But they definitely would have done it on purpose!
It would have made the decision easier I guess, ;) but the Dubs are no angels  , One all Ireland finished the Dubs one point ahead Mayo , Mayo Goalkeeper trying to kick the ball out and four sets of players grappling on the ground , No remarks past   ""they were all at it ""  8)

I believe the keepers tee was also thrown into the Hill and the spare ball behind the goal was booted away for good measure

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-20470478.html

Comment at the time was that the ref could have issued 4 Black Cards to the Dubs, but of course he bottled it



(That might have been another game though)

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 24, 2023, 10:37:43 PM »
Mate still there on a J1.. 30 years now ;D

Wow-can’t be easy in this day and age.

If people are coming to work and (even half way) obey the law the majority of people I know over here have little issue with illegals


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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 24, 2023, 10:24:31 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, it’s up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then that’s on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ain’t arriving on dinghy’s

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

I’m not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their lives…

It’s completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ain’t arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) they’ll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. That’s why Trump implemented the “wait in Mexico”  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers license….probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So it’s not international law when you land at an airport that they can’t send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??

My understanding is that if you land in the States at an airport without ID they can send you back.

But if you had to fill out an ESTA, you probably wouldn’t have made it that far with a fake passport. The the chances of someone presenting themselves with a fake or no passport are probably very slim

If you landed with a legit passport on a tourist visa, then claimed asylum I’d say they would have to let you in while your case is being heard

I know a Ukrainian family who came on a tourist visa in the 90s and claimed asylum once they got here. The Marathon Bombers family did something similar

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 24, 2023, 09:19:00 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, it’s up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then that’s on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ain’t arriving on dinghy’s

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

I’m not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their lives…

It’s completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ain’t arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) they’ll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. That’s why Trump implemented the “wait in Mexico”  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers license….probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 24, 2023, 08:03:29 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, it’s up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then that’s on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ain’t arriving on dinghy’s

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 24, 2023, 06:33:02 PM »
Another allegation/ right wing soundbite which you state as a fact.
How many of those seeking International Protection "tear up their papers", what safe Countries* have they come from?
Anyway my point  to you was "we" don't bring them in, they arrive and ask for asylum.

The US woukd hardly qualify as mass murders are being carried out every day If the week ;D

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/10/06/thousands-of-passengers-destroy-or-lose-passports-before-arrival-at-dublin-airport/

“Almost 40 per cent of people seeking asylum in Ireland this year arrived through Dublin Airport without any travel documents”

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30961488.html

“Mr Varadkar said that Georgian and Albanian migrants are travelling to Ireland with fake documents.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1661700/albanian-migrants-uk-dublin-airport-route-ireland-soft-border-checks-priti-patel-policy/amp

“f challenged in Dublin, the gang organised said, the migrants are advised to "make a big noise" and claim asylum.“


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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 24, 2023, 05:46:17 PM »
And in Cork Hospital at the weekend ;)

Agreed

We don’t have enough criminals in Ireland and should be doing everything in our power to bring in more from overseas
Fireign International protection seekers (some of whom are alleged by some to be criminals)  are not "brought in" by us.

Oh you mean the ones who destroy their passports and come to Ireland from “safe countries”

Sound

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General discussion / Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« on: January 24, 2023, 04:27:39 PM »
And in Cork Hospital at the weekend ;)

Agreed

We don’t have enough criminals in Ireland and should be doing everything in our power to bring in more from overseas

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland club football championships 2022/23
« on: January 24, 2023, 12:47:53 PM »
Replay set for Limerick at 500 pm Saturday evening

Cormac Reilly appointed referee

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GAA Discussion / Re: Should An Glenn object?
« on: January 24, 2023, 12:08:00 PM »
If it were up to me I’d consider three things

(1) Was it intentional-ie pulled a fast one hoping no one would notice

(2) Did it make a material difference in the final sequence of play

(3) Did the officials have the ability at the time to intervene but didn’t

If the answer to any or all questions  is yes-I would be asking for a replay

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