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Title: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: redsetanta on October 13, 2017, 04:17:52 PM
Sunday, January 28 – Limerick (away)

Saturday, February 3 – Galway (home)

Saturday, February 17 – Antrim (home)

Sunday, February 25 – Offaly (away)

Sunday, March 4 – Dublin (home)
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 13, 2017, 06:03:02 PM
2 ways of looking at this.
A real tough start with games against what are basically Division 1A teams.
On the other hand games 3 & 4 are very winnable and could set us up to have a right good rattle off Dublin at home.

We need to beat Antrim the week before heading to Tullamore to have any chance over there. I see a lot of our younger players "wintering well". It is their own business to a degree, and I believe Laois were back fitness testing over the last week or two, but it is a little bit concerning!

Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: G@@ on October 13, 2017, 09:04:46 PM
Not a bad draw considering - three home games is to be welcomed and getting the AI champions here is a huge boost. It would be a wonderful start to put in a good performance against Limerick to begin the campaign, then shove it up to Galway at home keeping it tight again. That would have us in flying morale to take our first points off Antrim and hopefully follow it up with a win over old rivals Offaly. The Dublin game will be a tricky one considering the announcement of the new management team there, however it would be a good yardstick before planning for the "not-the-Leinster-Championship" group.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Tobias on October 14, 2017, 04:47:56 AM
Its hard to believe that the first round of the league is just over 3 Months away. It will come around quick enough too. It sometimes takes Laois a while to get up and running with some lads deciding to take an extended break after the Summer. We cant really afford to have lads doing that this time around because if we are not ready this league could become a very daunting challenge. We have really failed to turn up against Limerick in the league over the years. They are not actually that good but they always seem to give us a hiding. I felt last year our management were extremely naïve against Limerick in the league in Portlaoise and we took an unmerciful beating from them. We left huge space between our half and full back lines without counter-acting it Limerick put us to the sword. I have time for the management but they really should be more tactically aware at times.
As regards personnel we are already without Cahir Healy, Picky Maher, Mark Kavanagh and Dwane Palmer for the league at least so it makes an already tough league that bit tougher, Id imagine these four would be starting if fit. We really need to get a few new guys on board or at least get the few guys that have not been committing themselves involved. Having lads on the subs for the County team that are only subs for their clubs is not good enough and every effort needs to be made to improve the make up of the panel. There should be incentive there this year in that if we get into the tier two final id imagine it will be in Croke park and following that we would have a big game in a preliminary quarter final to look forward to.
I feel it is so important to keep our senior hurling team at a reasonable level for a few years and hopefully some of these promising underage guys will drive us on to another level. We can only live in hope.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on October 16, 2017, 12:49:05 AM
Anyone else feel the league schedule is a complete disgrace? Does it start even earlier next year? All group games plus Walsh Cup over by March 4th. Then we not even in the Leinster cship in 2018. Approx 8 competitive games from Jan to March. Why? Hurling is a supposed to be a summer game.
Also what is the structure of our new group of 'sub-standard' teams? Play everyone once? Is there a final? Does anyone even know?
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: redsetanta on October 16, 2017, 10:51:51 AM
Championship starts in May.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Tobias on November 09, 2017, 03:12:21 AM
Any update on laois training? How is it going?
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: burdizzo on November 14, 2017, 05:53:37 PM
I hear Ben Conroy has gone in w/ the county footballers for next year, rather than the hurlers. Is that right?
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 14, 2017, 11:04:44 PM
I hear Ben Conroy has gone in w/ the county footballers for next year, rather than the hurlers. Is that right?

Surely not? Ridiculous decision by him if true.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: O moore parklife on November 15, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
I hear Ben Conroy has gone in w/ the county footballers for next year, rather than the hurlers. Is that right?

Surely not? Ridiculous decision by him if true.
Looks like it, was at the trials
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: clonadmad on November 16, 2017, 08:40:58 AM
Playing Tipperary in a challenge in Puckane,10/12 2pm
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: redsetanta on November 16, 2017, 10:39:20 AM
First game in the Walsh cup is on December 30th!
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on November 16, 2017, 03:33:13 PM
I hear Ben Conroy has gone in w/ the county footballers for next year, rather than the hurlers. Is that right?

Hearing this...Infairness he looked very decent for Ballyfin two years ago!
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: redsetanta on November 16, 2017, 04:58:48 PM
A loss for the hurlers and they are competing at a higher level and will probably have more supporters than the footballers this year. He was an automatic choice when fit so a bit of an odd one.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: burdizzo on November 16, 2017, 05:39:12 PM
The old dual player conundrum again - he wanted to do both, but Kelly demanded commitment, and so he walked. I think it's a shame, and a big loss for the hurlers. Mind you, I don't think either team will have that much support.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 16, 2017, 11:42:01 PM
The old dual player conundrum again - he wanted to do both, but Kelly demanded commitment, and so he walked. I think it's a shame, and a big loss for the hurlers. Mind you, I don't think either team will have that much support.

I would back Kelly here. He is a guy that the hurling backroom team nursed back to fitness on a couple of occasions over the past two years, a demand such as the one above shouldn't be entertained, in my opinion!!
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: merman on November 17, 2017, 07:58:29 AM
I believe Conroy was only approached to go with the footballers after he had been let go from the hurlers.
Conroy is a student-teacher I think (?) and couldn't commit to every session as demanded by Kelly.

I respect that Kelly is demanding Cheddar levels of commitment but it's very early in proceedings to be issuing such ultimatums.

I heard a rumour that Garoid Bourke may be coming on board this year. Be a massive addition.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: clonadmad on November 17, 2017, 08:40:52 AM
I believe Conroy was only approached to go with the footballers after he had been let go from the hurlers.
Conroy is a student-teacher I think (?) and couldn't commit to every session as demanded by Kelly.

I respect that Kelly is demanding Cheddar levels of commitment but it's very early in proceedings to be issuing such ultimatums.

I heard a rumour that Garoid Bourke may be coming on board this year. Be a massive addition.

With the league starting earlier next year,it's not early at all
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: merman on November 17, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
I believe Conroy was only approached to go with the footballers after he had been let go from the hurlers.
Conroy is a student-teacher I think (?) and couldn't commit to every session as demanded by Kelly.

I respect that Kelly is demanding Cheddar levels of commitment but it's very early in proceedings to be issuing such ultimatums.

I heard a rumour that Garoid Bourke may be coming on board this year. Be a massive addition.

With the league starting earlier next year,it's not early at all

It's still early to be drawing that line in the sand with a 22/23 year old who has been very committed to hurling for Laois since development grades.
I believe he asked for a bit of flexibility until the new year; doesn't seem unreasonable.

I'd have a concern that being too rigid in what we demand from our county players will see the lifespan of our county hurlers continue to shorten....
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 18, 2017, 12:23:44 AM
I believe Conroy was only approached to go with the footballers after he had been let go from the hurlers.
Conroy is a student-teacher I think (?) and couldn't commit to every session as demanded by Kelly.

I respect that Kelly is demanding Cheddar levels of commitment but it's very early in proceedings to be issuing such ultimatums.

I heard a rumour that Garoid Bourke may be coming on board this year. Be a massive addition.

I hold my hands up if the above is true. That is not the version of events that is "out there".
It will be hard to get the full/true story I suppose. I'd imagine all parties will have their own spin on it.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: burdizzo on November 18, 2017, 08:32:00 AM
Yeah, not the version I heard, either.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Tobias on November 20, 2017, 03:25:27 AM
http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/278254

A few new additions to the panel. If James Ryan can carry his club form to the county he can be a good addition.
No sign of Gearoid Burke, Joe Campion, Liam Delaney, Colm Stapleton, Robbie Phelan, Aaron Bergin, Joe Phelan or Zane Keenan
Hopefully there will be no further deflections to the panel..
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Zooming around on November 20, 2017, 11:04:33 AM
The Camross boys have been given an extra bit of time off.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: burdizzo on November 20, 2017, 11:14:14 AM
Boys? You're hardly suggesting Zane will be there, too - are you?!
The way Mount Leinster Rangers were beaten yesterday might put a few things in perspective, however.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: blueandwhite1 on November 20, 2017, 05:15:18 PM
We need a few new backs, urgently. Surely there are a few from around the county that are worth a shot?

Leaving Cha in the forwards and assuming Cahir might not be back for a while, who are our best 6 backs?

Palmer, Bergin, Cleere, Collier, Killeen, Mullaney?

Matthew Whelan can't reasonably be expected to hold things together at this point in his career

Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: redsetanta on November 20, 2017, 05:25:56 PM
Palmer will be out for a while with injury. Geroid Burke would be a big plus if he'd commit. Hopefully Leigh and Lee come back in as I was very impressed with both of them last year. Mullaney is a committed and skillful hurler but he's very heavy and neither pacey or agile enough. Maybe the s & c work might help.
Is Tom Delaney back in?
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: burdizzo on November 20, 2017, 07:08:54 PM
What's the form w/ Cahir Healy? I know he's injured, but will he be w/ the hurlers again this year, does anyone know?
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Zooming around on November 20, 2017, 08:46:39 PM
Boys? You're hardly suggesting Zane will be there, too - are you?!
The way Mount Leinster Rangers were beaten yesterday might put a few things in perspective, however.

Not sure what way you added that particular 1+1 but you certainly didn’t get 2... it was mentioned on Laois Today
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: burdizzo on November 20, 2017, 09:09:33 PM
Yeah, well, it was a bit facetious all right, but the previous poster -Tobias - had mentioned Zane Keenan, so...
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 21, 2017, 12:32:17 AM
Slight aside, but if Aidan Corby doesn't get U21 Hurler of the Year it is all a cod!
Almost single handedly dragged an average Clough Ballacolla team to the final. Dragged them through the second half last week and led a serious charge at coming back on Saturday.

Some really excellent performances.
Title: Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
Post by: Tobias on November 21, 2017, 03:36:56 AM
Why wouldn't Zane be asked back in? He would certainly add to the midfield/forward options.
I guess the question is..would he come back. Even though he is still only 29, if he doesn't go back this year he probably never will and once he hits 30 he probably never will.
He might decide to give it one more year with the potential incentive of playing the tier 2 final in croke park.
Others from Camross are Ciaran Collier Dwane Palmer from last year. Hopefully Gearoid Burke. Id also have a look at Joe Phelan and Mark Dowling.
Its a pity not to see Joe Campion, Liam Delaney, Robbie Phelan, Aaron Bergin and maybe Stephen Phelan not in there.