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Quote from: Tones on Today at 10:49:24 PMYou're a quare man for the concerts!Quote from: Armagh18 on Today at 10:36:06 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on Today at 10:29:02 PMNot any lover of Tyrone, but it's very unfair a team having to play a big semi-final game just 6 days after a tight game. Def needs a 2 week breathing space between quarters and semi, plus a 2 week space to the qualifiers after the final for runners upAbsolutely. Scrap the group shite, 2 championships of 16 with a back door before the quarter finals or maybe just straight knockout be even better. Push the all ireland back to mid august.
When would the concerts happen though?
Quote from: Truthsayer on April 22, 2024, 03:21:20 PMQuote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on April 22, 2024, 02:37:54 PMYou're a hard taskmaster! 9 players played in their first county championship : ) That wouldn't beat Donegal but it didnt have to... they won. I wouldn't be inclined to hammer them... see how Sunday goes.Quote from: Truthsayer on April 22, 2024, 01:04:30 PMQuote from: Mikhailov on April 22, 2024, 12:26:49 PMI think your over-cooking what managers can do. The problem wasn't so much the blackcard was that the player who got it had such a huge influence on the game up to then.Quote from: Truthsayer on April 22, 2024, 11:45:37 AMQuote from: trueblue1234 on April 22, 2024, 11:37:52 AMDef needs reviewed: they know that. Hard to plan for every single player to get a black card, of all the ones to get one Hampsey probably be the most damaging (Mattie too). I see the glass half full not half empty: 9 players made championship debut. When it went back to 15 v 15 was never in doubt. To go to Cavan and be hauled back like that and win showed great character.Quote from: Truthsayer on April 22, 2024, 08:32:31 AMYou don't think going a man down and how to cope with it is an element that the management should have dealt with in training? I would be asking serious questions about why we opened up so quickly during those 10 mins. That re-organisation lies with management imo.Quote from: tyroneman on April 22, 2024, 07:22:11 AMNah you've still lost me. Maybe I'm not up to speed with gameplans. You mention Derry, they were a shambles at the weekend. Kerry scraped past Cork. I've must have a simpler outlook. Tyrone went away from home and beat a side just beat Monaghan. Things went badly awry on the black card and need to look at why. Sitting in Breffini Park yesterday wat I saw was Tyrone were the much better team and when it was 15 v 15 Cavan wouldn't have won if we were there to next Tuesday. Next up... Donegal.Quote from: Truthsayer on April 21, 2024, 11:15:44 PMQuote from: tyroneman on April 21, 2024, 11:04:40 PMNo issue with players being blooded, transition years, need to gain experience...all that stuff....fine...What does that even mean? Lost their way when Hampsey went off on the black card... need to look at that. They were the much better side.
But surely you should be able to see a plan, a system, some kind of tactics beyond the basic, something to give these players a structure to develop in ...
What that means is exactly what it says. It's great to see new players get brought in and given a meaningful taste of league and championship.
There is also a lot of talent there, which means we can go on scoring sprees and look fantastic for periods. All good. So the raw ingredients are there.
What is not evident is a system or structured gameplay to compete with Dublin/Kerry/Derry (and McGuiness back means Donegal are also a much diffeent prospect).
There is zero consistency in the team, from quarter to quarter, never mind game to game.
Maybe I just dont see/understand the current tactics as well as others and I would be delighted to be proved wrong.
Maybe I don't have your expectations of a team in transition. Reality check: They won't be beating Kerry or Dublin no more than Derry or Donegal will...
a club team management would have that angle covered. A black card happens regular in games so it needs to be handled irrespective of who the player carded is.....basic stuff for all teams. Delegation, planning and proper instruction sorts that out easily
I am like yourself and try to take the positives from it (9 debutants, great first 30 minutes) but how can we let a black card derail us is concerning. The real positive was that most of them debutants were on the pitch in the crucial closing stages of ET when the game was in the melting pot.
Hard to know what to expect next week....if we deliver then we could win but it is the total inconsistency that is our problem - we don't know what is happening from one half to the next never mind one game to the next.
Derry on Saturday was a complete mess, a few weeks ago Harte being hailed as a genius.
We'll see what happens...I've more faith in the management than you obviously..
There is a limit to what management can do without doubt but setting up a team in a coherent fashion with a clear plan isn't too much to expect. We haven't had that the last two years, the team has been a disjointed mess. The management team basically got a free pass for that because of 2021 and that was fair enough. Once they decided to put themselves forward for another term the free pass expired for me and they don't get off with this team in transition line either. Yes there are lots of young players but they are very good young players with a very good experienced core already there. It shouldn't be asking too much after McKenna Cup and seven league games for something like a well tuned team to be emerging. Instead they went off the boil massively in the second-half with the total collapse after the (questionable) Hampsey black card very concerning. It was pretty obvious that Mattie (who was class) wasn't happy at all afterwards. I'm not expecting any titles this summer but we need to see some real evidence this management team are bringing a competitive new team together and building towards something much better than the shambles of the past two summers. Big few weeks ahead of them.
Quote from: Armagh18 on Today at 10:36:06 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on Today at 10:29:02 PMNot any lover of Tyrone, but it's very unfair a team having to play a big semi-final game just 6 days after a tight game. Def needs a 2 week breathing space between quarters and semi, plus a 2 week space to the qualifiers after the final for runners upAbsolutely. Scrap the group shite, 2 championships of 16 with a back door before the quarter finals or maybe just straight knockout be even better. Push the all ireland back to mid august.
Quote from: gallsman on Today at 11:32:29 AMSo to sum up, nobody actually knows the entirety or precisely what happened, but everyone is certain the ref got it wrong or fucked up in order to shaft their team.
Great stuff.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on Today at 08:54:56 PMQuote from: thebigfella on Today at 08:39:25 PMEating carbsQuote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 08:25:49 PMAre people just more sick? More people and less doctors?
Living longer, as I've said many times is a curse.
Yeah but why are we all so sick
Quote from: JoG2 on Today at 10:34:46 PMGlass is some operator. Not too often he doesn't have a massive say in games and steps up when the game is in the melting pot.Quote from: thebigfullforward on Today at 04:42:25 PMQuote from: God14 on April 20, 2024, 10:22:49 PMI'd agree with that. Even from what I've seen at club level he's able to take it up a notch in the final 10 minutes but before that it doesn't feel like he's in the game. Seems to be the same at county level as well. Capable of a few big plays during a game but it doesn't feel like he's there consistently for 45/50 minutesQuote from: Armagh18 on April 20, 2024, 08:13:38 PMJust goes to show anyone can beat anyone on the day. Harte is a stubborn f**ker though so I'd put money on Lynch pushing up the next day too! Not many teams have the midfield to dominate Glass!
Derry are a class side, I've no agenda here... But Conor Glass is so overrated it's unreal..another shocker performance, he saves his shockers for when Derry are in a tight spot too
As a famous son of Derry once famously said.. 'youse boys no nothing about football'.