Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[DaleCooper]

Worst call of the year not having Harte on at half time. Bizarre McKernan would be in before him.

Ball in was atrocious at times, and in general Tyrone refused to use the open spaces.

[tyrone08]

Worst call of the year not having Harte on at half time. Bizarre McKernan would be in before him.

Ball in was atrocious at times, and in general Tyrone refused to use the open spaces.

Harte, mckerarn and Ruairi in at half time and hampsey off clifford. No idea why O'Rourke left it so long

[DaleCooper]

Your biggest two point threat who can deliver accurate passes.

To be fair Harte hit wide on first touch [like Bradley].

Kerry were poor shooting into that end in first half, maybe swirling wind can explain a few very poor Tyrone efforts.

[thebigfullforward]

Diarmuid McNulty needs to be involved in the senior set up. All very clueless and weak today. Very slow build up is never going to suit the forwards we have. Very slow also to change anything.

But sure look what happened when we tried to go fast. I'd say we kicked the ball away far too much in that first half when the pass wasn't on and we should've kept possession

[RedHand88]

The biggest disappointment was how Tyrones heads went to mush when Kerry were pulling away. Some of the decision making in the last 15mins was comical.
Hate to single out individuals who are amateurs but does anyone notice how Kilpatrick stopped himself running into open space sometimes? There would be space infront of him between the 45 and the 21 and he stopped and went sideways. Happened a few times.

[Scoring Zone]

Half decent year, there is more control and system of play and I think Errigals run did upset the start of the year there is a few key issues that the heat of a AI SF against Kerry

1) Size, particularly forwards, we are severely lacking in size/ power - Kerry works so much less for scores because of Clifford - Canavan and McCurry can't be faulted for effort but not physically strong enough to hold there own

2) Kicking Game, abit contradictory here as you can't have a kicking game ( which Tyrone don't have because of the above), if you want to win big games in Croker, you need to kick in quick and get scores - Tyrone atm are carrying and switching from side to side waiting on a mistake to score, huge amount of effort, and leave themselves wide open if turned over.

In general Kennedy, Kilpatrick, Devlin, McGeary and Donnelly had quality seasons but the young guns need to accelerate development as there could be abit of turnover

McCurry season fell off a cliff once it hit croke park. Was yards out in front of foley but was easy caught.

D canavan is quality and mcelholm as well. Seanie od was good yesterday but already that's 3 small players in the forwards. Daly will improve again next year who has a bit of height but there is room for something different in the forward line.

Orourke picked a system to best suit the players at hand.
Throughout the year there has been so many unforced individual errors and that have proven costly.
Kerry fairly simple game plan in first half. Pull everyone out and leave Clifford in 50 yards of space 1v1. Don't think Tyrone all year got Canavan in a one v one situation with loads of space it just wasn't the way they wanted to play.

With Canavan (x2), McCurry, Bradley and McElholm playing inside, we really need to get the ball in much quicker. Would like to see Harte and Devlin utilised for their passing.

Won't matter how quick the ball is in, Canavan is v quick (quicker than most) but and not to quote Philly McMahon, can't get separation and if he does doesn't have the power to then take on the man - the top 2/3 teams has this Tyrone until they find this type of player will struggle in Croke Park with the new rules.

Ideally need to win Ulster in the next 1-2 years to keep the momentum and get a senior medal in the pocket of the lads coming through

[trileacman]

I really hate how slow the management is to accept they need to make changes. Happened all the time this year. Was clear at 1/2 time yesterday that Hampsey needed to be moved off Clifford and McCurry needed to be subbed. They however did the same as they did against Armagh. Waited for 10-15mins into the half after which Tyrone were facing a substantial deficit.

It would have been so easy to move Teague who held O'Shea to next to nothing onto Clifford. It was what, Hampseys 3rd start of the year? They took the risk of starting him on Clifford that's fair enough, but at half time they surely had to realise their choice was wrong. They even had Aidan Clarke on the bench to come on mark Ose if Teague was moved on to him.

Likewise McElholms best impact has been off the bench, all year they've tried to play 3 small forwards and all year it's been a disaster. Whether McCurry, Dara and Ruari v Armagh or McCurry, Dara and sparky against Mayo it hasn't worked and hamstrung our attack. What ends up happening is because of the 3v3 rule and because Matty Donnelly usually stays up then one of the 3 has to play as a CHF. McElholm and McCurry chasing shadows around their own defence and offering nothing on breaks or kick outs really holds Tyrone back. Or Dara who's the only one of them who is a tenacious tackler but wasting all his energy chasing defenders.

McElholms best performances have been off the bench as the game opens up and his pace can cause problems. There was a better kickout strategy at least yesterday but so much of the rest of the setup didn't make sense.

[In hiding]

I really hate how slow the management is to accept they need to make changes. Happened all the time this year. Was clear at 1/2 time yesterday that Hampsey needed to be moved off Clifford and McCurry needed to be subbed. They however did the same as they did against Armagh. Waited for 10-15mins into the half after which Tyrone were facing a substantial deficit.

It would have been so easy to move Teague who held O'Shea to next to nothing onto Clifford. It was what, Hampseys 3rd start of the year? They took the risk of starting him on Clifford that's fair enough, but at half time they surely had to realise their choice was wrong. They even had Aidan Clarke on the bench to come on mark Ose if Teague was moved on to him.

Likewise McElholms best impact has been off the bench, all year they've tried to play 3 small forwards and all year it's been a disaster. Whether McCurry, Dara and Ruari v Armagh or McCurry, Dara and sparky against Mayo it hasn't worked and hamstrung our attack. What ends up happening is because of the 3v3 rule and because Matty Donnelly usually stays up then one of the 3 has to play as a CHF. McElholm and McCurry chasing shadows around their own defence and offering nothing on breaks or kick outs really holds Tyrone back. Or Dara who's the only one of them who is a tenacious tackler but wasting all his energy chasing defenders.

McElholms best performances have been off the bench as the game opens up and his pace can cause problems. There was a better kickout strategy at least yesterday but so much of the rest of the setup didn't make sense.

It was Mourinho who said football management is the only occupation where the customers know more than the consultants.
You say how could the management not know to move Teague onto Clifford?
Maybe they remember the league game in Pomeroy when Clifford scored 3 goals on him.
You see it's very easy to pick holes afterwards because no one can argue with something that didn't happen. Malachy has been successful as a manager for a fairly long time, success is relative obviously. Maybe you have too.
The fact that Malachy's decisions don't make sense to you tell me more about you than him

[Truthsayer]

I really hate how slow the management is to accept they need to make changes. Happened all the time this year. Was clear at 1/2 time yesterday that Hampsey needed to be moved off Clifford and McCurry needed to be subbed. They however did the same as they did against Armagh. Waited for 10-15mins into the half after which Tyrone were facing a substantial deficit.

It would have been so easy to move Teague who held O'Shea to next to nothing onto Clifford. It was what, Hampseys 3rd start of the year? They took the risk of starting him on Clifford that's fair enough, but at half time they surely had to realise their choice was wrong. They even had Aidan Clarke on the bench to come on mark Ose if Teague was moved on to him.

Likewise McElholms best impact has been off the bench, all year they've tried to play 3 small forwards and all year it's been a disaster. Whether McCurry, Dara and Ruari v Armagh or McCurry, Dara and sparky against Mayo it hasn't worked and hamstrung our attack. What ends up happening is because of the 3v3 rule and because Matty Donnelly usually stays up then one of the 3 has to play as a CHF. McElholm and McCurry chasing shadows around their own defence and offering nothing on breaks or kick outs really holds Tyrone back. Or Dara who's the only one of them who is a tenacious tackler but wasting all his energy chasing defenders.

McElholms best performances have been off the bench as the game opens up and his pace can cause problems. There was a better kickout strategy at least yesterday but so much of the rest of the setup didn't make sense.

Was wondering were you were... waiting for Tyrone to lose to give management a slating. 

[NotedObserver]

Half decent year, there is more control and system of play and I think Errigals run did upset the start of the year there is a few key issues that the heat of a AI SF against Kerry

1) Size, particularly forwards, we are severely lacking in size/ power - Kerry works so much less for scores because of Clifford - Canavan and McCurry can't be faulted for effort but not physically strong enough to hold there own

2) Kicking Game, abit contradictory here as you can't have a kicking game ( which Tyrone don't have because of the above), if you want to win big games in Croker, you need to kick in quick and get scores - Tyrone atm are carrying and switching from side to side waiting on a mistake to score, huge amount of effort, and leave themselves wide open if turned over.

In general Kennedy, Kilpatrick, Devlin, McGeary and Donnelly had quality seasons but the young guns need to accelerate development as there could be abit of turnover

McCurry season fell off a cliff once it hit croke park. Was yards out in front of foley but was easy caught.

D canavan is quality and mcelholm as well. Seanie od was good yesterday but already that's 3 small players in the forwards. Daly will improve again next year who has a bit of height but there is room for something different in the forward line.

Orourke picked a system to best suit the players at hand.
Throughout the year there has been so many unforced individual errors and that have proven costly.
Kerry fairly simple game plan in first half. Pull everyone out and leave Clifford in 50 yards of space 1v1. Don't think Tyrone all year got Canavan in a one v one situation with loads of space it just wasn't the way they wanted to play.

With Canavan (x2), McCurry, Bradley and McElholm playing inside, we really need to get the ball in much quicker. Would like to see Harte and Devlin utilised for their passing.

Won't matter how quick the ball is in, Canavan is v quick (quicker than most) but and not to quote Philly McMahon, can't get separation and if he does doesn't have the power to then take on the man - the top 2/3 teams has this Tyrone until they find this type of player will struggle in Croke Park with the new rules.

Ideally need to win Ulster in the next 1-2 years to keep the momentum and get a senior medal in the pocket of the lads coming through

Darragh Canavan can't get separation and can't take a man on? Quicker ball would be a start

[trileacman]

I really hate how slow the management is to accept they need to make changes. Happened all the time this year. Was clear at 1/2 time yesterday that Hampsey needed to be moved off Clifford and McCurry needed to be subbed. They however did the same as they did against Armagh. Waited for 10-15mins into the half after which Tyrone were facing a substantial deficit.

It would have been so easy to move Teague who held O'Shea to next to nothing onto Clifford. It was what, Hampseys 3rd start of the year? They took the risk of starting him on Clifford that's fair enough, but at half time they surely had to realise their choice was wrong. They even had Aidan Clarke on the bench to come on mark Ose if Teague was moved on to him.

Likewise McElholms best impact has been off the bench, all year they've tried to play 3 small forwards and all year it's been a disaster. Whether McCurry, Dara and Ruari v Armagh or McCurry, Dara and sparky against Mayo it hasn't worked and hamstrung our attack. What ends up happening is because of the 3v3 rule and because Matty Donnelly usually stays up then one of the 3 has to play as a CHF. McElholm and McCurry chasing shadows around their own defence and offering nothing on breaks or kick outs really holds Tyrone back. Or Dara who's the only one of them who is a tenacious tackler but wasting all his energy chasing defenders.

McElholms best performances have been off the bench as the game opens up and his pace can cause problems. There was a better kickout strategy at least yesterday but so much of the rest of the setup didn't make sense.

Was wondering were you were... waiting for Tyrone to lose to give management a slating. 

I'm living rent free in your head.

[Truthsayer]

I really hate how slow the management is to accept they need to make changes. Happened all the time this year. Was clear at 1/2 time yesterday that Hampsey needed to be moved off Clifford and McCurry needed to be subbed. They however did the same as they did against Armagh. Waited for 10-15mins into the half after which Tyrone were facing a substantial deficit.

It would have been so easy to move Teague who held O'Shea to next to nothing onto Clifford. It was what, Hampseys 3rd start of the year? They took the risk of starting him on Clifford that's fair enough, but at half time they surely had to realise their choice was wrong. They even had Aidan Clarke on the bench to come on mark Ose if Teague was moved on to him.

Likewise McElholms best impact has been off the bench, all year they've tried to play 3 small forwards and all year it's been a disaster. Whether McCurry, Dara and Ruari v Armagh or McCurry, Dara and sparky against Mayo it hasn't worked and hamstrung our attack. What ends up happening is because of the 3v3 rule and because Matty Donnelly usually stays up then one of the 3 has to play as a CHF. McElholm and McCurry chasing shadows around their own defence and offering nothing on breaks or kick outs really holds Tyrone back. Or Dara who's the only one of them who is a tenacious tackler but wasting all his energy chasing defenders.

McElholms best performances have been off the bench as the game opens up and his pace can cause problems. There was a better kickout strategy at least yesterday but so much of the rest of the setup didn't make sense.

Was wondering were you were... waiting for Tyrone to lose to give management a slating. 

I'm living rent free in your head.

Just when Tyrone play knowing you're waiting at the buttons in hope of defeat and an opportunity to slate MO'R... and true to form 

[Easttyrone23]

I find it bizarre reading some of the comments about tyrone. You'd think we were odds on favourites to win Sam and won't get as close again according to some.

Not one person would have fancied us winning sam at the start of the year. Despite the mixed performances and the 1st year for this new management team we reached the semi final.

With the exception of Kerry and Dublin I can't imagine a county where the expectation levels from both those from the county and those from outside are so high.

In the last 4 years Tyrone have won a Sam maguire 3 u20s a minor championship as well as 2 school all
Irelands and In the 1st year of new management they reached a semi final. There's Tyrone ones going on like it's a disaster and there's ones from neighbouring counties who could only dream of their county doing that but laughing at Tyrone for not winning more. 

[Grace Murphy]

More power to Tyrone

Had a decent year. Division 2 is a right off for all other teams in 2026


U no what I mean mucker

[Truthsayer]

I find it bizarre reading some of the comments about tyrone. You'd think we were odds on favourites to win Sam and won't get as close again according to some.

Not one person would have fancied us winning sam at the start of the year. Despite the mixed performances and the 1st year for this new management team we reached the semi final.

With the exception of Kerry and Dublin I can't imagine a county where the expectation levels from both those from the county and those from outside are so high.

In the last 4 years Tyrone have won a Sam maguire 3 u20s a minor championship as well as 2 school all
Irelands and In the 1st year of new management they reached a semi final. There's Tyrone ones going on like it's a disaster and there's ones from neighbouring counties who could only dream of their county doing that but laughing at Tyrone for not winning more. 

There are a few like that. I think most people are realistic and see the improvement.