Thread for Tony Fearon to to pontificate about Catholicism

[seafoid]

It is amazing that there is no gay or lesbian saint

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/hopes-irishamerican-priest-who-died-during-911-attacks-will-be-named-worlds-first-openlygay-saint-36159179.html

[LCohen]

Why do they want a marriage,a church based sacrament,when they are in conflict with the Church's teaching?

Marriage is a legal process. It need not be in the flannel of a sacrament. In fact the church sacrament stands for exactly zero in law.

What percentage of people that go through the sacrament are not in conflict with the church's teachings on a great number of things.

Your argument is not threadbare. Its threadless

[LCohen]

Gays can get married in the UK or the South.Why do they want a marriage,a church based sacrament,when they are in conflict with the Church's teaching?

Gay marriage is mostly about undermining traditional marriage, not about any relationship between the people concerned.

Your unique insight is truly illuminating

[LCohen]

Marriage was invented by God and derives from a faith base.Gay supremacists having got civil partnerships now just want to rub the noses of people of faith by polluting what is a Holy Sacrament. Why? What is the difference for them between Civil Partmership and Marriage?

You don't understand what a supremacist is do you.

Your ignorance is staggering

[LCohen]

Read an article today by Belfast Telegraph's Religious correspondent,Alf Mc Creary,on the courage of atheists,on their death bed,rejecting God,and potentially risking a very very bad eternity.As he said a believer once said to an atheist, "If you're right neither of us will have an after life,but if I'm right you'll know very quickly of God's existence!"

This god of yours sounds repulsive.

What will his take be on someone who did well by others but just couldn't see any evidence for there being a god?
How will this contrast with someone you believed in god but was shabby in his treatment of people?

[LCohen]

It is vibrant,but I would not deny that the prospect an afterlife/eternity,and to spend it in a good place is a key motivator.

Your belief in god seems to be based on an inability to come to terms with your mortality. Wanting something to be true seems to be enough to make it true and proven.

Was Santa good the the year?

[LCohen]

Atheism is cowardly? Risking a lost eternity through non belief? I would never be brave enough to take that risk.

Just when you think Tony's repulsive social views could not be more disgusting he gives you an insight in the selfish, grubby little basis for the whole thing.

Truly awful

[LCohen]

They sadly tried to protect the reputation of the Church and did not consider impact on victims.Totally wrong,but it's the Catholic Faith I adhere to,not so much the clerics.All individuals will have to answer to God for their failings,including Clerics

What you going to do if St Peter stops and says belief isn't the big deal as it's easily faked or hedged. The big deal is how you treat the planet and the life forms on it. The dossier on your social views is then produced. Can the colour drain from a corpse after a 2 day wake?

[T Fearon]

Look.I believe a man called Jesus existed,died and rose again.Throughout his life and elsewhere in the Bible an eternal reward is promised to those who believe in Jesus as their saviour and turn away from sin.What is wrong with wanting a good eternity? Look at the effort most people put in to have a good but relatively short time span on earth.

[LCohen]

You don't understand.The Church is in the business of saving souls.Those who leave are jeopardising themselves.The Church has admitted its failings and has robust policies and procedures in place to safeguard children.

Abuse in any organisation was and is wrong.

What sets the Catholic Church apart is that I don't believe there was ever any case of the BBC hierarchy ever reacting to evidence of abuse in Shepherd's Bush by moving the offender to Bristol or the Scottish Isles because abusing kids there was more acceptable. I don't think there was ever a case of the BBC reorganising and moving assets to shelter them from victims. I don't think the leaders of the BBC ever claimed to be moral instructors of the people.

[LCohen]

You need to repent first.Of course if you don't believe and trust in him as your saviour in the first place you cannot expect to be saved.That's the teaching of all Churches.

Yes and its staggeringly stupid. As well as morally corrupt

[longballin]

You need to repent first.Of course if you don't believe and trust in him as your saviour in the first place you cannot expect to be saved.That's the teaching of all Churches.

Yes and its staggeringly stupid. As well as morally corrupt

a form of social control then take the peoples money and molest their children. Cults

[playwiththewind1st]

11,760 posts.....repetitive, inane ould shite & you get dubbed a "hero member"? Anybody else would have been banned.

[LCohen]

According to scripture,and the beliefs of all Christian Churches,if the repentance is sincere and remorse genuine,forgiveness will be given.It is important to note the words sincere and genuine.Did not Jesus himself forgive a person being crucified alongside him,owing to that person,who had committed terrible deeds,acknowledging him as the saviour?

However not believing in God is tantamount to rejecting him and salvation,so sadly no matter how good a life one leads,under those circumstances,there can be no eternal reward

So this moral god weighs belief in him above goodness. Sounds deranged. His company for eternity sounds discomforting

[LCohen]

It's very simple.Without belief in God and sincere repentance there is no hope of salvation

Evidence please?