Marc Wilson -Portsmouth

[Donagh]

Much as I would love you to be right, Marc Wilson is 21 and did not have duel citizenship since birth. The GFA was signed in 1998, so at some point he 'acquired' a ROI passport.

Wrong. Go and read the GFA. This lad does not have dual nationality as he's Irish from birth if he so wishes. He did not need to acquire an ROI passport to prove his nationality.

[The Watcher Pat]

From what I hear, the lad qualifies for the Republic through the grandparent rule, which means the story was inaccurate as it argued he didn't.  But DON'T be surprised if he does in fact opt to play for the statelet

Doesnt qualify this way...Doesnt make any difference, he wont play for NI anyway.....who does kennedy think he is? "WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO MAKE MARC PLAY FOR NI"   
Ballocks you cant make anyone do what they dont want to do....

[Main Street]

Wrong. Go and read the GFA. This lad does not have dual nationality as he's Irish from birth if he so wishes. He did not need to acquire an ROI passport to prove his nationality.

If he is born in the North he is a dual national. He is British by birth whether he wants it or not, he is Irish by birth whether he wants it or not.  The GFA means feck all in this debate, this debate is about FIFA eligibility.

[Main Street]

link please !

its unlikely to be true (as is most of what you say) as this would contravene EU law/legislation (rem bosman ?) for a start !

Read the thread better. There is no EU legislation or Bosmon that applies.
That stuff is about employment and contract.
Declaring for the Republic national team is not a contractual issue.

What matters are the FIFA rules of eligibility, they determine the criteria for national team eligibility. FIFA have constantly backed the FAI in this issue.
If Alex Bruce can declare with only a NI born mother then it would be  a glaring stupidity if a NI born youngster was refused permission to declare.

No NI youngster can be deprived of his/her right under FIFA rules to declare for the Republic.
If they have been capped at an underage level for NI then they have until they are 21 years to switch to the Republic.

[The Gs Man]

From what I hear, the lad qualifies for the Republic through the grandparent rule, which means the story was inaccurate as it argued he didn't.  But DON'T be surprised if he does in fact opt to play for the statelet

Doesnt qualify this way...Doesnt make any difference, he wont play for NI anyway.....who does kennedy think he is? "WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO MAKE MARC PLAY FOR NI"   
Ballocks you cant make anyone do what they dont want to do....

Hangover this morning Watcher?

Marc Wilson was absolutely raging at that Sunday Life article.  It said he was from Crumlin ffs.

[Mickey Linden]

From what I hear, the lad qualifies for the Republic through the grandparent rule, which means the story was inaccurate as it argued he didn't.  But DON'T be surprised if he does in fact opt to play for the statelet

Doesnt qualify this way...Doesnt make any difference, he wont play for NI anyway.....who does kennedy think he is? "WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO MAKE MARC PLAY FOR NI"   
Ballocks you cant make anyone do what they dont want to do....

Hangover this morning Watcher?

Marc Wilson was absolutely raging at that Sunday Life article.  It said he was from Crumlin ffs.

Crumlin? WTF? Any wonder he is upset!

[The Watcher Pat]

From what I hear, the lad qualifies for the Republic through the grandparent rule, which means the story was inaccurate as it argued he didn't.  But DON'T be surprised if he does in fact opt to play for the statelet

Doesnt qualify this way...Doesnt make any difference, he wont play for NI anyway.....who does kennedy think he is? "WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO MAKE MARC PLAY FOR NI"   
Ballocks you cant make anyone do what they dont want to do....

Hangover this morning Watcher?

Marc Wilson was absolutely raging at that Sunday Life article.  It said he was from Crumlin ffs.

Im not too bad...Only 4 hrs to go then the Garrick is going to get it!!

[red hander]

From what I hear, the lad qualifies for the Republic through the grandparent rule, which means the story was inaccurate as it argued he didn't.  But DON'T be surprised if he does in fact opt to play for the statelet

Doesnt qualify this way...Doesnt make any difference, he wont play for NI anyway.....who does kennedy think he is? "WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO MAKE MARC PLAY FOR NI"   
Ballocks you cant make anyone do what they dont want to do....

Glad to hear it Pat.  Hope he tells Worthington to f**k off if he rings him this week

[Main Street]

From what I hear, the lad qualifies for the Republic through the grandparent rule, which means the story was inaccurate as it argued he didn't.  But DON'T be surprised if he does in fact opt to play for the statelet

Doesnt qualify this way...Doesnt make any difference, he wont play for NI anyway.....who does kennedy think he is? "WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO MAKE MARC PLAY FOR NI"   
Ballocks you cant make anyone do what they dont want to do....

Glad to hear it Pat.  Hope he tells Worthington to f**k off if he rings him this week

It doesn't matter where on the planet he was actually born as long he has parent/s or grandparent/s who were born in the 32 counties.
The fact that he was born in the 32 counties and qualifies to be an Irish citizen means that it doesn't matter a fiddlers fart where his parents/grandparents are born.
The ball is totally in Marc Wilson's court to chose which team he wants to play for.

[Donagh]

Wrong. Go and read the GFA. This lad does not have dual nationality as he's Irish from birth if he so wishes. He did not need to acquire an ROI passport to prove his nationality.

If he is born in the North he is a dual national. He is British by birth whether he wants it or not, he is Irish by birth whether he wants it or not.  The GFA means feck all in this debate, this debate is about FIFA eligibility.

Don't believe the spin MS, it has everything to do with the GFA.

[Donagh]

It doesn't matter where on the planet he was actually born as long he has parent/s or grandparent/s who were born in the 32 counties.
The fact that he was born in the 32 counties and qualifies to be an Irish citizen means that it doesn't matter a fiddlers fart where his parents/grandparents are born. 

And it was the GFA that granted him this as a bithright for the first time.

[lynchbhoy]

link please !

its unlikely to be true (as is most of what you say) as this would contravene EU law/legislation (rem bosman ?) for a start !

Read the thread better. There is no EU legislation or Bosmon that applies.
That stuff is about employment and contract.
Declaring for the Republic national team is not a contractual issue.

What matters are the FIFA rules of eligibility, they determine the criteria for national team eligibility. FIFA have constantly backed the FAI in this issue.
If Alex Bruce can declare with only a NI born mother then it would be  a glaring stupidity if a NI born youngster was refused permission to declare.

No NI youngster can be deprived of his/her right under FIFA rules to declare for the Republic.
If they have been capped at an underage level for NI then they have until they are 21 years to switch to the Republic.

He's right
being stopped declaring for a country IS akin to declaring for a country's passport
in this way you are then being denied your rights under EU law if what is being said to stop young Wilson is true - its illegal under EU law.
Falls under citezens rights charter.
The by product is the contract rights but this particular instance based on self determination when multiple passports are indeed available.
Until there is a closing or ruling as to who can declare for which country Ireland/England based on birthplace/parent/grandparent - then this remains very much open and there will be feck all fifa can do to make any case that will ALWAYS be over ruled by the proper legislation adhered to be EU and supported by UN.

You view is correct within the realm of fifa, but in reality would never stand up in a court of law which will ruel in favour for the likes of Wilson (as in bosman before him) every time.

ifa might not like that, but maybe they should take the hint ! they dont really exist as a country therefore will never win these !

[T Fearon]

I just hope the FAI have the balls to pursue this all the way and not lie down to keep sweet with their fellow junket parasites in Belfast.

[red hander]

If Marc is pissed off about the article he should ring the odious little fudgepacker who wrote it and tell him so

[Main Street]

It doesn't matter where on the planet he was actually born as long he has parent/s or grandparent/s who were born in the 32 counties.
The fact that he was born in the 32 counties and qualifies to be an Irish citizen means that it doesn't matter a fiddlers fart where his parents/grandparents are born. 

And it was the GFA that granted him this as a bithright for the first time.

It was his birthright since the Free State was founded.
Dual citizenship has existed for decades before GFA.
Your birthright is not granted by the Brits or the NI assembly. Your birthright to Irish citizenship is in the Republic's constitution.

Don't believe the spin MS, it has everything to do with the GFA.

The GFA is SFA when it comes to dual nationality, Irish citizenship has been the birthright of all born on Island since 1922.
It is astonishing that you are not aware of that.