Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[PadraicHenryPearse]

A fighter plane payload would have be some size to kill 500 people, see pictures there, what I don't see is a crater that come with a bomb of such size. Can't see how a misfiring rockets would do the same damage either. I wait to more information comes out!

I suspect such information will show that in fact the number of fatalities was much less than 500.

As for the baby murderers remark I think the Israelis are outdoing themselves on that one

With large numbers of Hamas fighters roaming around, likely coked out of their heads, there may well have a been a baby tortured or several women raped. With military operations that is par for the course. But Isreali propaganda multiplied this several times over.

well i suppose it just easier to make stuff up now.

[Franko]

The fact there's people on here who believe the lies of the IDF and the Israeli government is staggering.

People actually believe Islamic jihad and Hamas have bypassed Israel's siege and got their hands on hi tec weapons and then only decided to use them last night. Then the first time they use the weapon it mis fires and lands on a hospital.

Which then just happens to be the same hospital Israel bombed days earlier and had warned everyone inside to evacuate in 3 seperate warnings over the previous days.

Really?

And you believe maniacs who cut people heads off and murdered babies less than a two weeks ago

And you believe that actually happened?

I saw a video of an adult getting their head hacked off with something that looked like a cross between an axe and a hoe

Good for you

I saw a video of an Israeli soldier shooting an unarmed man and his son one time

So where does this leave us when trying to figure out who bombed the hospital?

[PadraicHenryPearse]

The fact there's people on here who believe the lies of the IDF and the Israeli government is staggering.

People actually believe Islamic jihad and Hamas have bypassed Israel's siege and got their hands on hi tec weapons and then only decided to use them last night. Then the first time they use the weapon it mis fires and lands on a hospital.

Which then just happens to be the same hospital Israel bombed days earlier and had warned everyone inside to evacuate in 3 seperate warnings over the previous days.

Really?

And you believe maniacs who cut people heads off and murdered babies less than a two weeks ago

And you believe that actually happened?

I saw a video of an adult getting their head hacked off with something that looked like a cross between an axe and a hoe

think that was israelis, i think i saw similar. HRW (i think) also had video evidence of four palestinians kneeling unarmed surrendering that were murdered and guns planted beside them.(not there at time of shooting). There was also been a few hostages saying they were looked after by Hamas and one ( Yasmin Porat) said she saw israeli forces fired tank rounds into the settlements and killed Israelis in the crossfire, unsurprising given the hannibal protocol.


There are some really awful videos and pictures of hundreds of the over 1000 children murdered in Gaza. Hard to imagine 15/16 years having lived entirely in the Gaza prision and been through 4 slaughters by israeli bombs.

[Franko]

A fighter plane payload would have be some size to kill 500 people, see pictures there, what I don't see is a crater that come with a bomb of such size. Can't see how a misfiring rockets would do the same damage either. I wait to more information comes out!

I suspect such information will show that in fact the number of fatalities was much less than 500.

As for the baby murderers remark I think the Israelis are outdoing themselves on that one

With large numbers of Hamas fighters roaming around, likely coked out of their heads, there may well have a been a baby tortured or several women raped. With military operations that is par for the course. But Isreali propaganda multiplied this several times over.

Religion really is a f**king disease

[red hander]

It wouldn't matter what evidence was produced (and it's looking likely now our experts here who believed the Hamas line after an hour were wrong) about the hospital the fact that there are Irish men on here who align themselves with bloodthirsty maniac terrorists is one of the most bizarre moments I have seen on this board. Some of you are like bots on social media 

Who has aligned themselves with Israel?

Beat me to it, Tonto

[seafoid]

Report in La Monde detailing the two previous Israeli attacks on the same hospital in the last week and how the IDF contacted the hospital director to warn that these two attacks should be taken as a warning to evacuate:
https://twitter.com/KenRoth/status/1714670679776481393?t=36SvH_qijxOZh9O2SjMd0Q&s=19



So when Israel says it definitely didn't and most definitely wouldn't dream of attacking a hospital, just remember that they already attacked the sa

 me hospital twice earlier in the week.

Israel told 25 hospitals to evacuate

Aimee Shalan  https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1714572469867028972

[Snapchap]

Channel 4 not blindly buying the Israeli story on the hospital:

https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1714779839826141381?t=4EhquuN5XtPUmfUatI3djQ&s=19

[tonto1888]

A fighter plane payload would have be some size to kill 500 people, see pictures there, what I don't see is a crater that come with a bomb of such size. Can't see how a misfiring rockets would do the same damage either. I wait to more information comes out!

I suspect such information will show that in fact the number of fatalities was much less than 500.

As for the baby murderers remark I think the Israelis are outdoing themselves on that one

With large numbers of Hamas fighters roaming around, likely coked out of their heads, there may well have a been a baby tortured or several women raped. With military operations that is par for the course. But Isreali propaganda multiplied this several times over.

Religion really is a f**king disease

religion can be a great thing but not when it is misused

[Milltown Row2]

Channel 4 not blindly buying the Israeli story on the hospital:

https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1714779839826141381?t=4EhquuN5XtPUmfUatI3djQ&s=19

They made a point that Hamas have the actual warhead, just produce that and see them squirm

[Sportacus]

I wouldn't trust either side as far as I could throw them.  Unless there's an independent investigation we'll never be sure of the truth about the hospital.

[burdizzo]

How would you get someone independent?!

[Snapchap]

I wouldn't trust either side as far as I could throw them.  Unless there's an independent investigation we'll never be sure of the truth about the hospital.

Of course it cannot be proven, but we can consider the most likely scenario. It was ether the single most powerful palestinian rocket that has ever been made and which by sheer bad luck, misfired. Or...just maybe... it was the same group (the IDF) which bombed it twice beforehand earlier the same week and which told the hospital director that they wee going to bomb it again and that they'd better evacuate.



Israel: "We're gonna bomb another hospital"

Israel: *bombs hospital*
          *bombs hospital a second time*

Israel: *calls hospital director* "we're gonna do it again. better get out while you can."

Israel: *bombs hospital a third time*

Israel: "It wasn't us, it was the Palestinians."

Western media: "I guess it was the Palestinians"

[Hound]

Channel 4 not blindly buying the Israeli story on the hospital:

https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1714779839826141381?t=4EhquuN5XtPUmfUatI3djQ&s=19

They made a point that Hamas have the actual warhead, just produce that and see them squirm

I thought they made the point that Hamas claimed to have the actual warhead. But then why not release it immediately? The longer the gap the easier it would be to claim it's a warhead from somewhere else.

[Snapchap]

Channel 4 not blindly buying the Israeli story on the hospital:

https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1714779839826141381?t=4EhquuN5XtPUmfUatI3djQ&s=19

They made a point that Hamas have the actual warhead, just produce that and see them squirm

I thought they made the point that Hamas claimed to have the actual warhead. But then why not release it immediately? The longer the gap the easier it would be to claim it's a warhead from somewhere else.

If they produced a warhead 15 minutes after the blast, Israel would still be calling it a warhead from somewhere else. And you'd no doubt still be taking them for their word and proclaiming them as being "open and transparent".

[Milltown Row2]

I wouldn't trust either side as far as I could throw them.  Unless there's an independent investigation we'll never be sure of the truth about the hospital.

Of course it cannot be proven, but we can consider the most likely scenario. It was ether the single most powerful palestinian rocket that has ever been made and which by sheer bad luck, misfired. Or...just maybe... it was the same group (the IDF) which bombed it twice beforehand earlier the same week and which told the hospital director that they wee going to bomb it again and that they'd better evacuate.



Israel: "We're gonna bomb another hospital"

Israel: *bombs hospital*
          *bombs hospital a second time*

Israel: *calls hospital director* "we're gonna do it again. better get out while you can."

Israel: *bombs hospital a third time*

Israel: "It wasn't us, it was the Palestinians."

Western media: "I guess it was the Palestinians"

The images of the crater would (if that was the crater) suggest that it wasn't that big of a rocket? The fact that there was so many in that courtyard which has compounded things and increased the death toll.. Targeting hospitals and schools earlier is just horrendous