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Messages - T Fearon

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Could Mr Keenan not bring up nuisance and harassment charges against Magee and the BBC?

As usual the Police going for soft targets while ignoring big time criminals

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: Today at 10:32:26 PM »
Totally opposed to domestic violence in this World but would anyone condemn Tom if he was giving this witch a good slapping right now?

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: Today at 09:26:46 PM »
If she was married to a Mr Brown, and he died before her,would she not have been the Brown widow?

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: Today at 08:42:37 PM »
I thought she was the Black widow?

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Free the Three.

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: Today at 08:14:38 PM »
Was Catherine Nevin married to a man called Black?

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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« on: February 19, 2018, 07:10:49 PM »
Well why then are the statutory authorities not all over it and the Church being pulled apart for non compliance?
Fair question, Tony.

Because firstly the paperwork meets minimum safeguarding standards and the Church has used its legal resources to ensure that it cannot be sued by victims as all procedures are in place. However, while the alleged offender is stood down, two things happen:

1. If any action is taken it proceeds at a glacial pace with no referral to civil authorities and the main activity is to manage the media fallout to protect the reputation of the Church. Foot dragging of the worst order occurs. Look at the Finnegan case to see how long it took for the Church to deal with the matter and reach some conclusion for one victim of the many who have come forward.

2. No action is taken and the alleged abuser is left in limbo at least for many years and what looks left indefinitely, there are numerous examples of this across the country.  In every diocese there are priests who have been removed from frontline duty with no explanation and have been put into apparent exile for years.  However, in some cases the priest has refused to leave the parochial house and the parish is not informed what has been happening in reaching a conclusion.

This is not proper safeguarding procedures nor is it any form of natural justice for alleged abuser or the victims. However, it meets minimum standards as far as preventing any legal action against the Church being taken.

Have you recent evidence of the Church not following policy and procedures?

Another thing why should the Church be liable for the  actions of perverts masquerading as Priests? Were Peter Sutcliffe's employers open to be sued because he raped and killed winning while lorry driving?


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General discussion / Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
« on: February 19, 2018, 07:05:50 PM »
Surprise surprise.Why does the establishment want to see the demise of these groups?

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: February 18, 2018, 11:11:59 PM »
Celtic are not the same team without Broony.He drives them on..

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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« on: February 18, 2018, 09:03:21 PM »
Well why then are the statutory authorities not all over it and the Church being pulled apart for non compliance?

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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« on: February 18, 2018, 02:45:29 PM »
DD.Thanks for those comments.For the record I abhor Brendan Smyth,Finnegan and all the other perverts who have done untold damage to victims and to my Church.It is clear since the revelations of Savile 6 years ago that child abuse was rampant and woefully mishandled by all organisations.They followed the natural human instinct of self protection and this blinded them to any realisation far less concern for the plight of victims.This was totally wrong.

There is no safety in numbers defence for the church. All these organisations are condemned. The bigger the scale the greater the condemnation. This is logical.

If any of the organisations want an ongoing involvement with children the scrutiny will be greater. This is logical.

If any of these organisations claim to have moral authority or a role to play in moral instruction then the condemnation will be greater. This is also logical.

Only the anti logic brigade will have a difficulty with this

Bullshit.A handful of perverts do not reflect or invalidate the church,the
vast majority of its Priests or right to offer moral guidance and instruction

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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« on: February 18, 2018, 02:40:58 PM »
1.Sin of omission could be argued as could the case that Brady honestly informed his superiors and expected them to act effectively. Police knew about Finnegan but also did nothing.

2.Agreed.A victim of Finnegan's received a six figure compensation award.Two young girls who lost both parents at La Mon received 4k.

3.Are you saying the Church's current Protection Procedures are not up date or fit for purpose?

4.I didn't say it was unique but it dispels your statement that Canon Law protects abusers in the modern day.

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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« on: February 18, 2018, 12:21:42 PM »
Is that why it has by independent verification the most robust child and vulnerable adult protection procedures anywhere in the contemporary era which sees Priests automatically stood down when a mere allegation is levelled at them?

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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« on: February 18, 2018, 11:13:43 AM »
DD.Thanks for those comments.For the record I abhor Brendan Smyth,Finnegan and all the other perverts who have done untold damage to victims and to my Church.It is clear since the revelations of Savile 6 years ago that child abuse was rampant and woefully mishandled by all organisations.They followed the natural human instinct of self protection and this blinded them to any realisation far less concern for the plight of victims.This was totally wrong.

But the demonisation of individuals like Sean Brady and Bishop Mc Areavey for mistakes they made years ago (and they were let down by the system) gets on my goat.For what it's worth,much as we all totally abhor the crimes of Smyth Finnegan etc who is to say whether or not they made peace with God and atoned for their sins? It worked at the last minute for a guy beside Jesus on the cross. That's why the a church accords everyone a Christian funeral, and leaves final judgement to God.

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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« on: February 18, 2018, 09:13:45 AM »
Are you trying to break the record for most moronic posts in ten minutes? The Church has to have an input into the running of its own schools.Similarly the Church,not the parents,chooses who will administer its own sacraments,not the other way round.

If parents no longer want their children to have a catholic education,and the huge benefits that brings both academically and spiritually,let them withdraw their children and put them into an integrated or state school.

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