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omaghjoe

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Re: Catalan Independence Movement
« Reply #150 on: October 12, 2017, 08:20:49 PM »
Any chance we could get back on topic?

Whats the latest with  this? Couldnt make head nor tail of this latest episode, is it they have signed the independence bill but just haven't announced it?

It seems like Madrid are equally confused.

It almost seems like the Catalans are trying to egg on the Spanish to do something stupid that would cause complete outrage, and strangely enough the Spanish seem to be complying.

Is there still a way back at this point or is the whole deteriorating towards a political impass?

armaghniac

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Re: Catalan Independence Movement
« Reply #151 on: October 12, 2017, 10:39:34 PM »
the Catalan referendum was a bit like Brexit, winning the referendum was the easy bit.
if at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

north_antrim_hound

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Re: Catalan Independence Movement
« Reply #152 on: October 13, 2017, 01:31:23 PM »
the Catalan referendum was a bit like Brexit, winning the referendum was the easy bit.

Exactly that's the crux of it

Sorry for going if topic but "Ruth Avondhu  Edwards " was deviateing to express his disdain for all things northern nationalist
A bigger bigot up here would be hard to find

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Re: Catalan Independence Movement
« Reply #153 on: October 13, 2017, 02:22:04 PM »
This is well worth a listen for anyone interested in where this is going.
https://www.talkingpoliticspodcast.com/blog/2017/63-catalonia
"One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so much bullshit"

Main Street

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Re: Catalan Independence Movement
« Reply #154 on: October 13, 2017, 04:42:28 PM »
the Catalan referendum was a bit like Brexit, winning the referendum was the easy bit.

Exactly that's the crux of it

The problem with the Catalan referendum was that it was not a free and fair referendum. There was serious tampering with the election mechanism, whether by word (Spanish government) or by deed, the obstruction by the police and other agencies.
The mandate from the ballots cast, falls short and is not enough to empower a decl of independence.






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