Down Club Hurling & Football

[Lecale Gael]

Paddy Murray talking in Gaelic life about the referees needing to decipher what is a foul and whats not before Sundays game!! oh the Hypocis!!

Funny how he says that now! AFTER they come out of Down (where they have the calls going the right way)

He also talks about how Slaughtneil are looking beyond Kilcoo, that they think its already won! the same statements that Joseph Donnan had wrote and for which Kilcoo demanded an apology for inferring a lack of respect on their part.

They have been getting the 50-50 calls in Down for a long time now and in some cases 30-70 calls when the referee's have been squeezed enough.

When you go into Ulster at this time of year, the ground is heavier, slippier, referees will allow it to flow and the players just have to deal with it.

30-70 ? You got stats for that ? lol

[downjim]

Utm 😂😂😂😂

[Smurfy123]

That's cheap coming from you downjim
If your players had a set of testicles they would have been playing today
Unlucky Kilcoo

[Targetman]

Kilcoo just came up short today, a lack of discipline cost dearly, you can't go down to 13 men ( although slaughtneil were down to 14) and chase the game the way they had to, they also missed a penalty and had a great goal chance tipped over the bar in added time, maybe its just not to be for this team, unfortunately! ... I see 2 division 1 teams didn't bother to field yesterday according to the results website, Saturday football not suit?

[PAULD123]

Did we not only have 3 games at home this year as well. Always thought it was year about, 3 at home one year, 4 at the next year. But as you say not to bad on the travelling front.

I think there is a two year rotation on the draw. So if you play 3 homes in year one then it will be 4 aways in year two. But then it gets redrawn for the next two years. So over four seasons you will have two seasons 3 homes and 2 seasons 4 homes. But could be doubled up in middle years. These are all possible over four seasons:

3 homes then 4 homes - (new draw) 3 homes then 4 homes.
3 homes then 4 homes - (new draw) 4 homes then 3 homes
4 homes then 3 homes - (new draw) 3 homes then 4 homes
4 homes then 3 homes - (new draw) 4 homes then 3 homes

[SHEEDY]

Another hard luck story for kilcoo today, thought they give slaughtneil to much respect in the 1st half and sat off them to much. It was only when they started running at them that they got a bit of joy. A missed penalty and 2 red cards proved costly although kilcoo never give up and very nearly got a goal on 2 occasions at the death, a goal line clearance and a shot off the bar were really unlucky.
Slaughtneil are a very strong team and will give ulster a good rattle again this year.

Downjim, i dont think anyone from burren can laugh at kilcoo.

[forevergreen]

Paddy Murray talking in Gaelic life about the referees needing to decipher what is a foul and whats not before Sundays game!! oh the Hypocis!!

Funny how he says that now! AFTER they come out of Down (where they have the calls going the right way)

He also talks about how Slaughtneil are looking beyond Kilcoo, that they think its already won! the same statements that Joseph Donnan had wrote and for which Kilcoo demanded an apology for inferring a lack of respect on their part.

They have been getting the 50-50 calls in Down for a long time now and in some cases 30-70 calls when the referee's have been squeezed enough.

When you go into Ulster at this time of year, the ground is heavier, slippier, referees will allow it to flow and the players just have to deal with it.

30-70 ? You got stats for that ? lol


No stats but a set of eyes like rest of the county!! Ah well seems the referee hadn't read this weeks Gaelic life, although made a good job of influencing the lines man today!

[Mourne Rover]

Kilcoo have played in the last six Ulster club championships and have ended up with a litany of hard luck stories but no titles. They have a brilliant defence but their midfield has struggled since Greenan went to Australia and they do not really have enough scoring forwards to get them over the line in tight provincial contests. Their discipline cost them today, as Ward, after an outstanding Down final, got involved in two crazy tackles early on and was gone within nine minutes. Slaughtneil were second best at that stage but used the extra man cleverly to edge ahead until their own red card, which was during a melee and seemed debatable. The second Kilcoo dismissal just after the break looked like a fairly blatant punch off the ball, and the Slaughtneil goal, when Bradley was able to punch to the net after no one picked up his run from the middle, should have finished the contest. However, in fairness to Kilcoo, they pushed up O'Hanlon, got Devlin into the game and probably should have salvaged a draw. They were genuinely unfortunate to miss a penalty, have another effort flicked off the line and the final shot of the day pushed on to the crossbar. However, with Ryan Johnston missing, Jerome needed to deliver on the day but did not score and was seldom a threat, although it was still a surprise when he was replaced when the match was still in the balance.  They are a reasonably young side, but winning another Down title and getting back into the Ulster series a year from now will be a tough prospect. While encouraging the likes of Ward and a couple of the Branagans to get a run in the county squad would help them, they do things differently in Kilcoo.

[Stevie Nicks]

Kilcoo have played in the last six Ulster club championships and have ended up with a litany of hard luck stories but no titles. They have a brilliant defence but their midfield has struggled since Greenan went to Australia and they do not really have enough scoring forwards to get them over the line in tight provincial contests. Their discipline cost them today, as Ward, after an outstanding Down final, got involved in two crazy tackles early on and was gone within nine minutes. Slaughtneil were second best at that stage but used the extra man cleverly to edge ahead until their own red card, which was during a melee and seemed debatable. The second Kilcoo dismissal just after the break looked like a fairly blatant punch off the ball, and the Slaughtneil goal, when Bradley was able to punch to the net after no one picked up his run from the middle, should have finished the contest. However, in fairness to Kilcoo, they pushed up O'Hanlon, got Devlin into the game and probably should have salvaged a draw. They were genuinely unfortunate to miss a penalty, have another effort flicked off the line and the final shot of the day pushed on to the crossbar. However, with Ryan Johnston missing, Jerome needed to deliver on the day but did not score and was seldom a threat, although it was still a surprise when he was replaced when the match was still in the balance.  They are a reasonably young side, but winning another Down title and getting back into the Ulster series a year from now will be a tough prospect. While encouraging the likes of Ward and a couple of the Branagans to get a run in the county squad would help them, they do things differently in Kilcoo.

To be fair I don't think you can call stamping on a player lying on ground debatable, it was a poor action

[Mourne Rover]

There were few complaints from Kilcoo about their two reds but the Slaughtneil coaches were incensed by their own dismissal. It came as a series of tackles were flying in, and it was hard to say exactly how much contact was made in any of them, but hopefully there will be some TG4 coverage tomorrow night which clarifies matters.

[Stevie Nicks]

There were few complaints from Kilcoo about their two reds but the Slaughtneil coaches were incensed by their own dismissal. It came as a series of tackles were flying in, and it was hard to say exactly how much contact was made in any of them, but hopefully there will be some TG4 coverage tomorrow night which clarifies matters.

Kilcoo red cards were red cards, but just because the slaughneil bench were incensed it wasn't a red card?? One of their players stamped on a kilcoo lad on ground, I actually think the ref sent off the wrong man. As you say if tg4 have coverage will clear it up

[Smurfy123]

As I said here a few weeks ago this Kilcoo team are very successful in Down but will never be seen as a brilliant footballing side.They grind teams down and let's be frank play a terrible brand of football.Yesthet have dominated Down for years but the competition  has been terrible to say the least.Only a poor Burren team have challenged them.Club football in Down has been brutal from the mid nougties and it shows with the Down set up.Yes Kilcoo will continue to dominate Down football due to other teams being pathetic.

[Mourne Rover]

SN, it is a simple fact that the Slaughtneil coaches were more exercised than their Kilcoo counterparts about the various dismissals but no one has suggested this automatically means that Slaughtneil red card was unjustified. Your initial post suggested you had seen a Slaughtneil player stamp on a Kilcoo opponent, while your second post said the wrong player may have been sent off, which tends to confirm that there was confusion about what actually happened. The match reports in today's papers describe the Slaughneil red card as either `inexplicable' or `dubious', so it does not appear that a stamp was witnessed from the press box. Hopefully the TG4 coverage tonight will provide some clarity although their highlights can sometimes be very brief. However, regardless of some of the childish comments which have been appearing, Kilcoo remain a fine side who have been unfortunate not to win an Ulster title so far.

[Stevie Nicks]

We will see how many teams get as close to beating Slaughneil as Kilcoo were yesterday, I left last year's Ulster Final with no doubt that Slaughneil were the superior team but coming out of the Park Esler yesterday the two teams were evenly matched and Kilcoo would have been well worth their win if they had managed to get 1 of the 3 clear goal chances! As for the style of Kilcoo's play, have you watched Slaughneil's? Kilcoo are worthy champions of Down and the other clubs do need to up their game if they are to challenge in the next 4/5 years.
Kilcoo are a superb club team and are genuinely in the top tier of Ulster Club football as proved over the past 6 years in the Ulster with significant wins over St Galls, Cross and Scotsctown (in Clones) and two Ulster Final appearances, as an Armagh exile living in Kilcoo I hope Slaughneil get to the final but are beat by Armagh Harps

[SamFever]

 Ballyholland showing their true colours on Saturday.Soccer and pints took precedence over fulfilling
a League game.