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maroon,

its not a luxury its called fundraising locally. or higher membership rates....... i would think 50 clubs do so.




but the eternallly paranoid like Mckenna and his twitterers would have you believe that the 18k odd a year the club pays is actual loose change in all dublin clubs,

Or higher membership fees. My (Dublin) sub is 305 for myself (non-playing) and 2 kids (u16)

What would get for that in terms of gear?

Pick it

Cluxton (very close with Clarke but shades it due to superior kickouts)

Harrison (had Fitzsimons ahead before Sunday but he was roasted in the final)
Higgins (perpetual motion™)
Barrett (his best ever year for Mayo)

McCaffrey (missed the final but still deserves one)
Keegan (outstanding up to the Roscommon draw and roared back to his best in the final)
Boyle (lionhearted™)

Parsons (only one midfield spot up for grabs, shades it from Fenton and Cavanagh)
McCarthy (automatic)

McLoughlin (overtook Kilkenny who was wiped out in the final)
O'Callaghan (was quite patchy in most of his displays but you can't ignore mercurial genius)
Mannion (excellent all year and when it mattered)
Doherty (thoroughly deserved)
Rock (stood up in the final and has earned it - Kerry may get one here but it would be undeserved)
Moran (automatic - FOTY)

And that's it.

Mayo 9
Dublin 6
The rest 0

Harrison took a far bigger roasting in the 2nd half from Mannion.

I'd beg to differ on that one. Mannion won that duel in the second half alright but it's not comparable to what happened in the other duel.

Fitzsimons was roasted all game by Moran. 0-3 in the first half, and then Moran was out in front to set up both the goal for chance for Doherty and the goal for Keegan on a plate. And then there were the other shots Moran should have put over. It was 1-3 but it should have been 2-5.

It was a proper roasting in the Ollie Murphy/Peadar Andrews mould. Jim Gavin would been roasted himself had Mayo won for not switching Fitzsimons off Moran.

Harrison only picked Mannion up in the 2nd half, in that time he kicked 3 points from play, set up a few others and skinned Harrison to create one of his 2 goal chances. Dress it up whatever way you want but Harrison was given the runaround in the 2nd half.

Walsh  to stay on in galway,don't think it's the most favoured but I suppose for continuation purposes not a bad thing,will the players be pleased?it's hard to know I think if you see panel withdrawals,you have your answer.

You know something we don't?

Fair play hardy and I agree to an extent but the GAA either come down on all these antics or its bollix. The mental ferocity in which the dublin players started dragging out of our bucks in the dying minutes was so calculated , now if the ref awarded a free kick and handed mayo possession fourty yards out to where this was going on , it would of made some difference and teams might never engage in.this again.

The black card is not enough of a deterrent for this type of behaviour and it won't stop it happening again. Conceding a 21 yard free would certainly be enough to deter the aggressor.

Pick it

Cluxton (very close with Clarke but shades it due to superior kickouts)

Harrison (had Fitzsimons ahead before Sunday but he was roasted in the final)
Higgins (perpetual motion™)
Barrett (his best ever year for Mayo)

McCaffrey (missed the final but still deserves one)
Keegan (outstanding up to the Roscommon draw and roared back to his best in the final)
Boyle (lionhearted™)

Parsons (only one midfield spot up for grabs, shades it from Fenton and Cavanagh)
McCarthy (automatic)

McLoughlin (overtook Kilkenny who was wiped out in the final)
O'Callaghan (was quite patchy in most of his displays but you can't ignore mercurial genius)
Mannion (excellent all year and when it mattered)
Doherty (thoroughly deserved)
Rock (stood up in the final and has earned it - Kerry may get one here but it would be undeserved)
Moran (automatic - FOTY)

And that's it.

Mayo 9
Dublin 6
The rest 0

Harrison took a far bigger roasting in the 2nd half from Mannion.

Good to see Shaw getting some minutes..

I just hope he responds to the criticism in the same way Martial & Mkhitaryan did. I just hope he stays fit, probably won't get another game until Swansea in the next round. It would be a huge bonus to get him back to where he was at the beginning of 15/16 season.

He will never be back to what he was, the injury was terrible and he seems to be a bit off in terms of his commitment in the tackle, not surprising given his injury.

Think there is only one way to get him back there is get him in the team and play him into form, the more games he gets the more comfortable he will become and hopefully the form will follow.

Lindelof is looking to be a slow starter, hopefully JM can work with him in the same sort of fashion he did with Rojo, at least he started to look like a player last season until his unfortunate injury.

Its hard to say the broken leg is affecting him when he doesn't stay fit.

Plenty wrote Vidic off when he first arrived, Jose has a great record with centre half's so I'll give him plenty of time. I hope Fosu-Mensah gets plenty of game time for Palace as he has great potential, the same goes for Pereira at Valencia. Both have the ability to be top class players.

maroon,

its not a luxury its called fundraising locally. or higher membership rates....... i would think 50 clubs do so.




but the eternallly paranoid like Mckenna and his twitterers would have you believe that the 18k odd a year the club pays is actual loose change in all dublin clubs,

This comes back to the population question.  A lot easier to fundraise when you have massive population on your doorstep. Yet another reason why maybe Dublin don't actually need that 1.3 million per year if we are to believe ye guys

There was me thinking the likes of Aughamore & Knockmore would have no problem paying half a GDO's salary.

davitts are the 2nd highest  sellers / earners from the GAA national draw as an aside

Which clubs in Dublin contribute 50% to the salary of the GDO and how many members do those clubs have?

maroon,

its not a luxury its called fundraising locally. or higher membership rates....... i would think 50 clubs do so.




but the eternallly paranoid like Mckenna and his twitterers would have you believe that the 18k odd a year the club pays is actual loose change in all dublin clubs,

This comes back to the population question.  A lot easier to fundraise when you have massive population on your doorstep. Yet another reason why maybe Dublin don't actually need that 1.3 million per year if we are to believe ye guys

There was me thinking the likes of Aughamore & Knockmore would have no problem paying half a GDO's salary.

sambo,

belfast is the most obvious place where GAA need to invest big time ( money and structures) and as you say it gas a lot of the same rural background positives like Dublin.

The GPOs are great, the clubs pay half of the costs which the moaners all forget also and are are great set up for helping nervous parents, beginner coaches.  Their main work is in the schools which is what they introduced for initially to try and counteract the falling numbers of GAA friendly muinteoirs

Imagine a club having the luxury of been able to contribute to half a GDO's salary. How many clubs in Dublin do this?

It's between Cluxton and Moran. Moran deserves it but it is effectively a popularity contest once it gets down to the nominations. Clarke and McCarthy have no chance and Cluxton may get a lot of sentimental votes due to his standing in the game. However Andy Moran will be very popular as well and based on performances he deserves it anyway.

David Moran and Donal Vaughan not even getting nominated are surprises. Vaughan is effectively getting punished twice for getting sent off but then again John Small was selected.

are you serious about Donal Vaughan.         which 2 performances would you have him there for

Didn't know that 2 good performances was the criteria for getting nominated. He has played consistently well without being outstanding but is getting slightly scapegoated for a rash decision in the final imo.

Apart from the moment of madness Vaughan had a very poor final, his mistakes led to 3 points for Dublin in the 1st half.

Just seen the TSG team of the year, I'd give Doherty an All Star ahead of AOS & McLaughlin.

I doubt Rock will be far away too after that performance last Sunday.

Good to see Shaw getting some minutes..

I just hope he responds to the criticism in the same way Martial & Mkhitaryan did. I just hope he stays fit, probably won't get another game until Swansea in the next round. It would be a huge bonus to get him back to where he was at the beginning of 15/16 season.

Can you really mention Tyrone on the same breath as the other 3 any more?

Only last year Tyrone lost a quarter final more than Mayo won it. They aren't at the level of the Tyrone All Ireland winning teams however come next summer i would expect them to be there or thereabouts against both Mayo,Kerry where one side is in transition and the other about to go into transition.

Surely surely you know realise that Mayo in semi-finals and finals versus earlier in the seasons are 2 completely different beasts. They plan to peak for semis and finals and have got it fairly consistently right.
There is simply no way on earth i would compare the Mayo performance against Tyrone last year with any of our performances v Dublin in past few years or v Kerry in 2014.

Mayo have probably been peaking for August since 2012, they didn't have to be anyway near their best to win Connacht from until 2015 given how poor the rest of Connacht were.

Given the age of the squad you'd imagine Rochford won't do anything different next year apart from trying to find new players in the league, I've seen people say the extra games helped Mayo but it certainly took them a while to get going after 4 poor performances in July.

This was the best performance from this Mayo team in a final, if you'd told me before the game Mayo would have won 6 of Cluxtons kickouts in the first half and their full forward line kicked 0-8 from play I'd have said Mayo would win.

Is there talk Rochford hasn't committed to next year?

Said he's going to take month of October to decide - started a new job, has very small kids.

cheers, I'd imagine if SOS, Boyle, Moran & Higgins all give it another go it would be difficult for him to step down.

[2 oldest outfield players had will both win All Stars.]

I imagine the majority of Mayo fans would have bitten your hand off for a draw when Rock popped over that free kick in injury time. It must seem like a long way back to an AI final with this team from here.

I've heard the same comment the last 4 years.

This generation are coming to an end but there's probably another year in them, their 2 oldest outfield players had will both win All Stars.

Will Andy Moran ever have a season again like he just had?

He's 34 in the next few months it would be obvious to suggest not but given he's just had his best ever season how could anyone write him off. Its certainly an ageing Mayo team, from the team that started Sunday 5 players are 30 and another 6 heading for 30 inside the next 2 years.