The ulster rugby trial

[Fuzzman]

I've not been following this thread and only read this page but now they were found not guilty should it not be fair and just that her photo be released.
Basically we've all been exposed (pardon the pun) do the defendants photos over the last month and they will have suffered because of that, even now when found not guilty but this lady doesn't have to show her face

Is this what equality is in today's world?
She could have (and maybe she has anyway) ruined these guys lives with her allegations yet not many knows her name or what she looks like

[Asal Mor]

https://www.joe.ie/news/moment-not-guilty-verdict-announced-belfast-trial-620688

Hope they're allowed get on with their lives now. Good luck to them.

[SLIGONIAN]

The bit I don't get the main witness Dara Florence said she saw Jackson having sex with the Woman but Jackson denies having sex with her, doctors testimony support Florence's claim. Her testimony got them off because she said woman wasnt distressed but yet her account contradicted PJ but yet was most relied on. Why did the one of his friends bother bringing her home? The taxi driver thought she was distressed.

Why were watsapp message deleted.

I don't agree with all of that photoshot above I posted, 88% of porn comment is irrelevant and theories of drug taking.

I believe both the accuser and accused should remain anonymous until any trial is over imo.

After this case most women who have actually been raped wont bother going to trial, why bother. This woman was interrogated for 8 days straight by 4 different defence teams compared 0.5/1 day each for the accused. I find that alone unfair plus your relying on the police not to make any mistakes.

[gallsman]

I've not been following this thread and only read this page but now they were found not guilty should it not be fair and just that her photo be released.
Basically we've all been exposed (pardon the pun) do the defendants photos over the last month and they will have suffered because of that, even now when found not guilty but this lady doesn't have to show her face

Is this what equality is in today's world?
She could have (and maybe she has anyway) ruined these guys lives with her allegations yet not many knows her name or what she looks like

Jesus Christ, do people actually believe this sort of shite?!

[magpie seanie]

I've not been following this thread and only read this page but now they were found not guilty should it not be fair and just that her photo be released.
Basically we've all been exposed (pardon the pun) do the defendants photos over the last month and they will have suffered because of that, even now when found not guilty but this lady doesn't have to show her face

Is this what equality is in today's world?
She could have (and maybe she has anyway) ruined these guys lives with her allegations yet not many knows her name or what she looks like

Crazy.

[Tony Baloney]

I've not been following this thread and only read this page but now they were found not guilty should it not be fair and just that her photo be released.
Basically we've all been exposed (pardon the pun) do the defendants photos over the last month and they will have suffered because of that, even now when found not guilty but this lady doesn't have to show her face

Is this what equality is in today's world?
She could have (and maybe she has anyway) ruined these guys lives with her allegations yet not many knows her name or what she looks like

I don't think this helps anyone let alone potential future claimants. I think all parties should remain anonymous but it would have inevitably been public in such a high profile case. I have been educated on this thread that it's not as simple as saying she lied as she may have believed she didn't give consent and Jackson would say she didn't say no.

[Rois]

I've not been following this thread and only read this page but now they were found not guilty should it not be fair and just that her photo be released.
Basically we've all been exposed (pardon the pun) do the defendants photos over the last month and they will have suffered because of that, even now when found not guilty but this lady doesn't have to show her face

Is this what equality is in today's world?
She could have (and maybe she has anyway) ruined these guys lives with her allegations yet not many knows her name or what she looks like

Surprised and disappointed at this post.  Syferus-style in reverse. 

[AZOffaly]

I've not been following this thread and only read this page but now they were found not guilty should it not be fair and just that her photo be released.
Basically we've all been exposed (pardon the pun) do the defendants photos over the last month and they will have suffered because of that, even now when found not guilty but this lady doesn't have to show her face

Is this what equality is in today's world?
She could have (and maybe she has anyway) ruined these guys lives with her allegations yet not many knows her name or what she looks like

That's a bizarre take. Why would you want, or need, to have her name and face publicised? As some sort of punishment?

[SLIGONIAN]

[magpie seanie]

I've not been following this thread and only read this page but now they were found not guilty should it not be fair and just that her photo be released.
Basically we've all been exposed (pardon the pun) do the defendants photos over the last month and they will have suffered because of that, even now when found not guilty but this lady doesn't have to show her face

Is this what equality is in today's world?
She could have (and maybe she has anyway) ruined these guys lives with her allegations yet not many knows her name or what she looks like

Crazy.

I suppose it's only saying what many others are thinking but know better than to say. We've a long way to go as a society that genuinely treats people equally.

I shouldn't waste my time but here goes an attempt at explanation:

A few things on the anonymity (1) if someone is charged with a crime their anonymity is usually not protected unless it is a crime of a sexual nature. The reason their anonymity is preserved in cases of this nature is to protect the alleged victim. She was the person that had a complaint. While her name hasn't been published I am sure it's widely known at this stage. (2) the defendants fame may have helped their case. (3) keeping their anonymity given their high profile jobs and the nature of them (for PJ and SO) was going to mean an elaborate tissue of lies that no one would believe. It was necessary.

While they have been found not guilty their actions that night, by their own admission, were nothing to be proud of. At best, they put themselves in a position where something like this could occur either through their alcohol abuse, sexual activities and text/comments to each other. In the eyes of the law they may be innocent but they brought this on themselves to at least a certain degree.

[brokencrossbar1]

I see Luke Rossiter who plays for Drogheda United is in bother too.

[AZOffaly]

This is true, but based on the very quick decision, and the unanimity of it, it had to be in the lower categories there.

[Rich Ricci]

Would like to see Jackson and Olding back playing for Ulster/Ireland again at some point. Whilst I take on board all the points about the difference between being found not guilty and innocence they ultimately have to be treated as innocent.

Some of the feminists on twitter are laughable. Anyone who refers to the not guilty verdict is a rape apologist.

[themac_23]

Holy smokes, they are holding solidarity rallies in Belfast, dublin and Limerick tomorrow, that has to be a joke?

[Tony Baloney]

200 pages.