National Archive 1901 Census available on-line 3 June 2010

Started by Shamrock Shore, June 02, 2010, 09:32:45 AM

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AQMP

What about the census from 1861, 1871, 1881 & 1891? Are they being digitised also?

The reason that the censuses of 1901 and 1911 are so important to genealogists and historians is that as muppet and other have said, they are the first complete surviving censuses of Ireland.  For some reason the 1861 and 1871 censuses were destroyed soon after completion.  The 1881 and 1891 censuses were pulped by the authorities during WW1.  There are differing arguments/reasons as to why this was done.  There was no census in 1921 due to the War of Independence.  After partition there was a census in the North in 1931 but this was pulped during WW2.  It was felt that in the event of a land invasion by the Germans that this would be a valuable source of info for them.  There was no census in 1941, so after 1911 the next surviving census info for the North is the 1951 census.  The Public Records Office currently operates a 100 year lock on census info so this is due to be released in 2051.

The first census in the Irish Free State was in 1926.  This is due for release in 2027.

muppet

RTE have a few interesting programmes from their archives. AT&T e time of broadcast the thought of watching Radharc would have been seen as torture. But now they can be very interesting.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/exhibitions/1378-radharc/355628-the-forgotten-irish/
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muppet

Interesting site. Boston College has posted over 41,000 missing persons notice collected from the newspapers in the 1800s. Some of it is sad to read to be honest.

http://infowanted.bc.edu/results/?sort=&order=&page=17&location=Mayo

For example a wife looking for her husband:

MISSING PERSON'S INFORMATION
Name:   Thomas Barrett
Gender:   Male
Age:   
Earlier Name Used:   
Alias:   
Description:   
Other:   Lft Wi & 5 Children Destitute

SEEKING PERSON'S INFORMATION
Name:   Ann Barrett
Relation to Missing:   Wife
Gender:   Female

Date of Advertisement:   08-01-1846
Contact Name:   Boston Pilot
Contact Address:   MA, Boston

POINT OF ORIGIN INFORMATION
Home County:   Mayo
Parish:   Crossmolina
Townland:   
Barony:   Tirawley
Poor-Law:   Ballina
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Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

From the Bunker

Muppet from an (un)educated guess. Do you think these people went missing - a) because they ran away from their circumstance? b) the died from suicide, murder etc?

muppet

Quote from: From the Bunker on June 10, 2015, 07:27:30 PM
Muppet from an (un)educated guess. Do you think these people went missing - a) because they ran away from their circumstance? b) the died from suicide, murder etc?

This was 1840-1880 USA. Some probably died working tough conditions (building railways, canals, in mines, in the Army etc) and no record was made available to those at home. Others may have wanted to disappear and start a new life as they saw it. Also disease and even childbirth were major killers then.

In many families someone (usually the father and/or the oldest children) went first and saved enough money to bring more over. Sometimes it took years to put together the money to get the whole family over. But if the first to go over died and had no one with them to send word home, then they just disappeared.

I was recently trying to track a couple who eloped in the late 1880s. So there were probably lots of reasons.
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Hardy

Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 08:22:49 PM
I was recently trying to track a couple who eloped in the late 1880s.

What harm are they doing at this stage?

twohands!!!

A friend of mine who did his family tree was telling me that about a great-granduncle or something similar who was heading to Oz.
The last they heard of him was a letter sent from somewhere around the Gulf of Oman giving out about the heat.
Never heard from ever again.
No idea what happened him.

muppet

Quote from: Hardy on June 10, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2015, 08:22:49 PM
I was recently trying to track a couple who eloped in the late 1880s.

What harm are they doing at this stage?

Their mammies want them back home now!
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armaghniac

Findmypast.ie have free access for 1 more day and Ancestry.ie for the rest of the month for some Irish records.
Found my Great grandparents marriage and so the birth record of my Great Grandmother.

There are also petty court records, and some of the family are in there too.

It isn't always easy with spelling differences and the lack of townland in the records.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B


armaghniac

Quote from: muppet on March 11, 2016, 08:36:21 PM
A few pages from the Ballina Chronicle in 1849: http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Mayo/1849/MAY.html

More here: http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Mayo/index.html

Jeepers, Muppet, that paper gets something of nature of the times. Top left, man falls dead from starvation, bottom left ad for the "CONFECTIONERY AND ITALIAN WAREHOUSE" with all manners of cake, buns, gooseberry pie and the like.

I've been poking about the sites in the previous post, and the Mormons, and have identified that my Great Grandmother was born in 1846, you have to wonder about how things were then.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Tony Baloney

Quote from: armaghniac on March 11, 2016, 09:46:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 11, 2016, 08:36:21 PM
A few pages from the Ballina Chronicle in 1849: http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Mayo/1849/MAY.html

More here: http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Mayo/index.html

Jeepers, Muppet, that paper gets something of nature of the times. Top left, man falls dead from starvation, bottom left ad for the "CONFECTIONERY AND ITALIAN WAREHOUSE" with all manners of cake, buns, gooseberry pie and the like.

I've been poking about the sites in the previous post, and the Mormons, and have identified that my Great Grandmother was born in 1846, you have to wonder about how things were then.
1846?! You must be 100.

armaghniac

#73
Quote1846?! You must be 100.

You are thinking of Orior. Maybe I missed a generation in between or she was very young when she was born.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

muppet

Quote from: armaghniac on March 11, 2016, 09:46:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 11, 2016, 08:36:21 PM
A few pages from the Ballina Chronicle in 1849: http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Mayo/1849/MAY.html

More here: http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Mayo/index.html

Jeepers, Muppet, that paper gets something of nature of the times. Top left, man falls dead from starvation, bottom left ad for the "CONFECTIONERY AND ITALIAN WAREHOUSE" with all manners of cake, buns, gooseberry pie and the like.

I've been poking about the sites in the previous post, and the Mormons, and have identified that my Great Grandmother was born in 1846, you have to wonder about how things were then.

You sure do.

The http://www.blacksodbayemigration.ie site that Ludermor posted on the other thread has data on a special service that was set up to help people emigrate in 1883. They were all from West Mayo, mainly Erris, Ballycroy and Achill. There was a man shot the previous year in 1882 in Bangor. His name was Thomas Barrett and his address was Doolough. He died shortly after the shooting. The event made national headlines and was referred to as part of the 'agrarian war'. I am guessing the philanthropist who organised the emigration (I have seen it referred to as Tuke's emigration) read about the shooting and wanted to help, but I don't know. Anyway, I think I have connected my family to the man who was shot.
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