Ulster's McKenna Cup

Started by Orior, September 08, 2024, 03:48:30 PM

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tiempo

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 10, 2024, 03:17:28 PMMcKenna cup very heavily used by ulster teams. It is IMO why teams in Ulster do better at the earlier stages in the leagues.

Leagues are not about winning yes - they're about getting promoted as high as you can and if division 1 staying there.

Jebus wept

Develop a winning culture 101 - don't worry about winning the league, mid table mediocrity will do, hang in the long grass for an ambush

Last 2 winners of Sam came from Division 2

imtommygunn

division 1 more than the rest... The rest are about promotion if you can.

trial players as much as anything once the points are on the board. Who has really focused on winning the league?

Armagh18

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2024, 11:44:12 AMdivision 1 more than the rest... The rest are about promotion if you can.

trial players as much as anything once the points are on the board. Who has really focused on winning the league?
Derry.

tiempo

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 12, 2024, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2024, 11:44:12 AMdivision 1 more than the rest... The rest are about promotion if you can.

trial players as much as anything once the points are on the board. Who has really focused on winning the league?
Derry.

Dubs, Tyrone, Kerry, Cork all spent time focusing on it as part of the bigger picture, winning habit and all

Orior

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2024, 11:44:12 AMdivision 1 more than the rest... The rest are about promotion if you can.

trial players as much as anything once the points are on the board. Who has really focused on winning the league?

I could see how management might not field their strongest team (to the detriment of players in form).

But as soon as any player steps on the field I assume they are givng 100%.

Has anyone on the board played a club or county game and deliberately gave only 50%?
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Armagh18

Theres definitely an element of it, even subconsciously you'll get that extra few % out of yourself knowing a game is more important than another.

Then you have lads peaking fitness wise for championship and maybe different gameplans being trialled out in less in league games.

Remember reading about how Armagh eased up in a lot of league games this year and began working on different systems/set plays/calls etc when the game was comfortable.

armaghniac

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 12, 2024, 09:52:27 PMTheres definitely an element of it, even subconsciously you'll get that extra few % out of yourself knowing a game is more important than another.

Then you have lads peaking fitness wise for championship and maybe different gameplans being trialled out in less in league games.

Remember reading about how Armagh eased up in a lot of league games this year and began working on different systems/set plays/calls etc when the game was comfortable.

And of course being in Div 2 they had the luxury to ease up, a luxury that may not be available in Div 1. Of course, with a more mature game plan they now might benefit more from a good test of it.
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Quote from: armaghniac on September 12, 2024, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 12, 2024, 09:52:27 PMTheres definitely an element of it, even subconsciously you'll get that extra few % out of yourself knowing a game is more important than another.

Then you have lads peaking fitness wise for championship and maybe different gameplans being trialled out in less in league games.

Remember reading about how Armagh eased up in a lot of league games this year and began working on different systems/set plays/calls etc when the game was comfortable.

And of course being in Div 2 they had the luxury to ease up, a luxury that may not be available in Div 1. Of course, with a more mature game plan they now might benefit more from a good test of it. 
Argument to be made either way I suppose, Galway and Tyrone this year both had to throw some inexperienced lads in at the deep end and it'll probably stand to them in the long run.