Premier League 2019/20

Started by Boycey, June 10, 2019, 01:16:21 PM

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sid waddell

Quote from: BennyCake on June 26, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Teams who run away with the title like Liverpool (or United in 2000 and 2001), rarely get the credit they deserve. Teams who win a tight, close race always seem to get more credit and are better remembered.
Liverpool's 1987/88 team which won the league by a street is one of the best remembered Liverpool teams.

Arsenal's invincibles are well remembered too.

So too Everton 1984/85 who had a fearsome team.

There's a difference between teams who win by a mile who set a new standard, ie. the current Liverpool and Manchester City teams, AC Milan of the 1990s and Guardiola's Barcelona and teams who win leagues comfortably but don't really do anything special, ie. Chelsea 2006/2015/17, Manchester United 2000/2001/2013. Chelsea's best remembered (relatively speaking) league winning team is probably 2005 which was their easiest of all.

manfromdelmonte

The rest of the premier league have been poor this season though.

Surely the Everton v Leicester game cannot go ahead with the lockdown being imposed on that city?

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 30, 2020, 08:55:54 AM
The rest of the premier league have been poor this season though.

That's BS. The PL had the 2 winners of the European trophies from last season, Man City considered the greatest PL side ever, albeit a small bit disjointed this year but still very good. If you look at this years European competitions City will give the CL a real run and United will do the same in the EL. Then you have the likes of Wolves, Leicester, Sheff United all pushing hard. Spurs and arsenal have gone off the boil and even you boys could make a fist of it with Carlo in command if your fans got their chip off their shoulder and your club sorted out their finances.

Boycey

Ah look Liverpool have been magnificent this couple of seasons but it's hard to dispute the rest of top 5/6 have been middling at best this season. It's not a slight on Liverpool at all just the way things work sometimes

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: sid waddell on June 27, 2020, 02:13:45 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 26, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Teams who run away with the title like Liverpool (or United in 2000 and 2001), rarely get the credit they deserve. Teams who win a tight, close race always seem to get more credit and are better remembered.
Liverpool's 1987/88 team which won the league by a street is one of the best remembered Liverpool teams.

Arsenal's invincibles are well remembered too.

So too Everton 1984/85 who had a fearsome team.

There's a difference between teams who win by a mile who set a new standard, ie. the current Liverpool and Manchester City teams, AC Milan of the 1990s and Guardiola's Barcelona and teams who win leagues comfortably but don't really do anything special, ie. Chelsea 2006/2015/17, Manchester United 2000/2001/2013. Chelsea's best remembered (relatively speaking) league winning team is probably 2005 which was their easiest of all.

That particular team holds a defensive record that I think might never be beaten.

shark

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on June 30, 2020, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on June 27, 2020, 02:13:45 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 26, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Teams who run away with the title like Liverpool (or United in 2000 and 2001), rarely get the credit they deserve. Teams who win a tight, close race always seem to get more credit and are better remembered.
Liverpool's 1987/88 team which won the league by a street is one of the best remembered Liverpool teams.

Arsenal's invincibles are well remembered too.

So too Everton 1984/85 who had a fearsome team.

There's a difference between teams who win by a mile who set a new standard, ie. the current Liverpool and Manchester City teams, AC Milan of the 1990s and Guardiola's Barcelona and teams who win leagues comfortably but don't really do anything special, ie. Chelsea 2006/2015/17, Manchester United 2000/2001/2013. Chelsea's best remembered (relatively speaking) league winning team is probably 2005 which was their easiest of all.

That particular team holds a defensive record that I think might never be beaten.

Their 2010 team, under Ancelotti, is often forgotten too. They scored over 100 goals in the league, and won the double. Brilliant side.

Boycey

Uniteds 2000 team was decent too, over 90 points, 100ish league goals. Their only crime was that they didn't win the treble like the previous year. Every league winning team must have something to recommend them, or else they wouldn't be league champions I suppose  :)

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: Boycey on June 30, 2020, 09:50:16 AM
Ah look Liverpool have been magnificent this couple of seasons but it's hard to dispute the rest of top 5/6 have been middling at best this season. It's not a slight on Liverpool at all just the way things work sometimes

It's rare though that in any year you have more than 3 teams pushing hard at the top. Normally 1 and 2 are close with a 3rd team in it till about 7-8 games to go. We have streaked ahead this year. Last year was seen as one of the best years ever because City and ourselves were so tight till the end. We have stepped another level up and City have faltered.

laoislad

Chelsea wearing Waterford GAA training tops tonight.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

imtommygunn

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 30, 2020, 10:59:00 AM
Quote from: Boycey on June 30, 2020, 09:50:16 AM
Ah look Liverpool have been magnificent this couple of seasons but it's hard to dispute the rest of top 5/6 have been middling at best this season. It's not a slight on Liverpool at all just the way things work sometimes

It's rare though that in any year you have more than 3 teams pushing hard at the top. Normally 1 and 2 are close with a 3rd team in it till about 7-8 games to go. We have streaked ahead this year. Last year was seen as one of the best years ever because City and ourselves were so tight till the end. We have stepped another level up and City have faltered.

I do think if Liverpool had dropped a few points here and there city might not have dropped so many but it was just Liverpool were  relentless. It's not like city have been poor. They definitely aren't as good as last season but on the flip side Liverpool are better.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 30, 2020, 10:59:00 AM
Quote from: Boycey on June 30, 2020, 09:50:16 AM
Ah look Liverpool have been magnificent this couple of seasons but it's hard to dispute the rest of top 5/6 have been middling at best this season. It's not a slight on Liverpool at all just the way things work sometimes

It's rare though that in any year you have more than 3 teams pushing hard at the top. Normally 1 and 2 are close with a 3rd team in it till about 7-8 games to go. We have streaked ahead this year. Last year was seen as one of the best years ever because City and ourselves were so tight till the end. We have stepped another level up and City have faltered.

Injuries to key players for City's defence hurt them more than Liverpool's injuries. Liverpool have been brilliant and we're definitely spurned in by losing to city the year before
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rodney trotter

Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 30, 2020, 10:59:00 AM
Quote from: Boycey on June 30, 2020, 09:50:16 AM
Ah look Liverpool have been magnificent this couple of seasons but it's hard to dispute the rest of top 5/6 have been middling at best this season. It's not a slight on Liverpool at all just the way things work sometimes

It's rare though that in any year you have more than 3 teams pushing hard at the top. Normally 1 and 2 are close with a 3rd team in it till about 7-8 games to go. We have streaked ahead this year. Last year was seen as one of the best years ever because City and ourselves were so tight till the end. We have stepped another level up and City have faltered.

I do think if Liverpool had dropped a few points here and there city might not have dropped so many but it was just Liverpool were  relentless. It's not like city have been poor. They definitely aren't as good as last season but on the flip side Liverpool are better.

City have lost 8 games in the League. Thats poor by their standards. The injuries in defence was a setback, didn't really replace Kompany either. Sane was brilliant when they reached over 100 pts in the League. He was injured for most of this season, off to Bayern now

imtommygunn

#477
I don't think they would have dropped as many had Liverpool not been as relentless. Yes they have been hit harder by injuries too which hasn't helped particularly in defense.

Capt Pat

Leicester and Chelsea both lost tonight opening the door to Man Utd to grab a champions league spot.

Chelsea lost 3-2 to West Ham in what was probably the best most entertaining game since the restart.

laoislad

Quote from: Capt Pat on July 02, 2020, 12:53:37 AM
Leicester and Chelsea both lost tonight opening the door to Man Utd to grab a champions league spot.

Chelsea lost 3-2 to West Ham in what was probably the best most entertaining game since the restart.
Wouldn't rule out Wolves yet either...
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.