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#1
Quote from: Tones on Today at 09:46:23 AMA friend of mind works dealing with benefit claims, she does England mostly, she says it's amazing how rude these folk are, how clued in they are, how persistent they are, how confrontational they are, she says when she clearly identifies fraud and passes it to her line manager more than not it is ignored - no wonder the country if fucked!

I've said before, these people work dam hard at not working, the levels of understanding the benefit system is way above the actual people working in it

I remember being at a garage on the Shankill years ago, guy was filling up his rather new BMW, he was chatting away to a fella in the shop telling him he was heading to the dole who were interviewing him for the DLA renewal.

He was basically covered in shit, clothes were hanging on him and he smelt of booze, told him that it works every time and they never keep more than 5 minutes due to the smell.

This isn't taking away from multi national companies not paying full tax btw  ;)
#2
Haven't watched this but will give it a go later, can only imagine what the family are going through reliving this over again and again.

Would love to know how many agents there were used over the years
#3
Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 22, 2024, 07:13:44 PMBy the letter of the law it was a pull down. The law was to stop cynical fouls when a player is in loads of space. The play was well away from it. There was two at that and the evidence suggests Hampsey didn't start it. It should have been two yellows.

On the one at the end of extra time, it looked like McKernan(?) wanted to put himself in the way, but that the Cavan player also looked to get the contact too. Does every time a player gives a wee push to another one off the ball, regardless of where the ball is, does that count as a black by the letter of the law because it's impeding. McCurry was pulling up with cramp and a Cavan player bundled him over, is that a black for impeding him? There were a lot of high tackles by Cavan players which went unpunished too which Cavan fans conveniently ignore too.

 All this inconsistent application and never ending debates about technical interpreation is tiresome and takes away from the joy of football.

The GAA need to simplify the rules. I think give a black if a player tries to stop a free being taken (as this is a regular tactic to foul and slow the free taken so as to get men back). If a player tries to cynically stop a goal scoring opportunity, be it near the goal or where the team has loads of space in front of them, give a penalty. If a team keeps committing fouls, like rugby, give a black card once a threshold has been passed. Get rid of the forward mark.

You're asking to simplify the rules but then add in rules which will be interpreted differently by every ref lol.

Players play within the rules and we are good to go?
#4
Quote from: Itchy on April 22, 2024, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 22, 2024, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2024, 04:30:06 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 22, 2024, 03:44:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 05:15:26 PM
Quote from: clarshack on April 21, 2024, 05:13:27 PMAnother example of Tyrone being refereed differently again. How can one be a yellow card and the other black?

Did you see the whole incident or just what we seen on the telly?
To be fair the BBC could not find why there was 1 black and 1 yellow appeared bizzarre, a big call that impacted on the game. Do you know why?

I only seen what the telly showed, as did most? My thinking is the the Tyrone man pulled him to the ground and what we seen was the grabbing each about on TV

Someon said the cavan player threw rurari away then paudie went over to him and that started it. Not sure if thats correct though.

Hampsie was at lynch the whole match, I don't think I've ever seen Paddy on a wrestling match before at a match. There was another blatant black card at the end if full time which was a very poor miss by the ref but I'm not sure would it have carried in extra time?

Always carried over into extra time, in that instance the gap between both players for the 'contact' was minimal and sorta on a threshold of body check or accidentally  ;) impeded him, body check black card
#5
Quote from: reddgnhand on April 22, 2024, 06:35:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2024, 04:30:06 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 22, 2024, 03:44:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 05:15:26 PM
Quote from: clarshack on April 21, 2024, 05:13:27 PMAnother example of Tyrone being refereed differently again. How can one be a yellow card and the other black?

Did you see the whole incident or just what we seen on the telly?
To be fair the BBC could not find why there was 1 black and 1 yellow appeared bizzarre, a big call that impacted on the game. Do you know why?

I only seen what the telly showed, as did most? My thinking is the the Tyrone man pulled him to the ground and what we seen was the grabbing each about on TV

The Cavan player had Hampsey by the leg. If Hampsey had fell to the ground would that have been a black card?

Yeah, by the rules that would be seen as a trip, whether it's off the ball with the ball up the other end a deliberate trip or pulling someone to the ground you run the risk of a linesman or umpire informing the ref of a black card offence.

It's completely bonkers why an intercounty player in championship would put his team's progress in jeopardy over his manliness  ;)
#6
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 22, 2024, 03:44:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 05:15:26 PM
Quote from: clarshack on April 21, 2024, 05:13:27 PMAnother example of Tyrone being refereed differently again. How can one be a yellow card and the other black?

Did you see the whole incident or just what we seen on the telly?
To be fair the BBC could not find why there was 1 black and 1 yellow appeared bizzarre, a big call that impacted on the game. Do you know why?

I only seen what the telly showed, as did most? My thinking is the the Tyrone man pulled him to the ground and what we seen was the grabbing each about on TV
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: Standard of Refs
April 22, 2024, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 22, 2024, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2024, 12:07:59 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 21, 2024, 11:33:41 PMhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41379304.html

Ah the aul hindsight and replays, multiple angles and so on, people hate VAR in the PL but call for it here!

Gavin needs to throw stuff out there otherwise he'll be not getting a wee earner

Correct on that point.

Both "square balls" in the Clare v Limerick game are really hard for umpires to call in real time, especially the second one as no doubt the umpire on the far post had his eyes on Hegarty coming in that side so when his shot hits off the post and pops up for Gillane, he's just turned his point of focus toward Gillane who's there in the square, but so is the ball.

First one, fullback needs to take a bit of the blame, rule no 1 of fullback play is that absolutely no one gets near that high ball dropping down, Cleary really should have been driving Gillane away from it, making sure he doesn't even get a chance to flick the hurl at it. Too weak for my liking there.
There's no way Brian Lohan lets Gillane get a touch on that in his day.

Clare will be kicking themselves as the other Limerick goal was very saveable, the lad didn't connect at all well with it and it bounced twice before hitting the net.



Personally I believe (though not in the rules) that the ref walks down very slowly towards his umpires, while maintaining contact with the fourth official who's at a desk on the sidelines, the ref is asking him to view it on a monitor that should be available for him, by the time he gets to chat with the umpires the fourth official will have had a better idea of a goal or square ball.
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: Standard of Refs
April 22, 2024, 12:07:59 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 21, 2024, 11:33:41 PMhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41379304.html

Ah the aul hindsight and replays, multiple angles and so on, people hate VAR in the PL but call for it here!

Galvin needs to throw stuff out there otherwise he'll be not getting a wee earner
#9
Quote from: onefineday on April 21, 2024, 11:36:17 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 21, 2024, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 08:30:34 PMSo no one knows the rules around adding time?



I genuinely have no idea. If you extra time is 10 minutes a half does that mean that when 2 mins extra time is played 7 would have been played had it been a 35 minute half?
So when are we going to get our answer MR2?

But but but everyone knows the answer sure

Adding minutes for injuries and substitutes

If a keeper is time wasting, you can't officially add that on, if someone is time wasting over a free that's not added either, they can be booked and the free is reversed to a hop ball for frees, again this wastes even more time..

15 seconds is generally a rule as you have that for the likes of Marks, but very rarely will ref's blow up keepers

I personally hate time wasters and stop my watch regardless. But hey that's me

#10
So no one knows the rules around adding time?

#11
General discussion / Re: The FA Cup Thread
April 21, 2024, 06:57:18 PM
It didn't annoy City last year having extra games
#12
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024
April 21, 2024, 06:55:29 PM
City slip into third ! Arsenal's or Liverpools to lose now

Game in hand means nothing  ;)
#13
General discussion / Re: The FA Cup Thread
April 21, 2024, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: jcpen on April 21, 2024, 06:43:34 PMMan Uniteds FA Cup to lose now surely after beating Liverpool with a last minute winner and now surviving a comeback from Championship side Coventry.
Name on the trophy type of stuff..

Aye, that's how it works  ;D
#14
Can someone explain the rules about adding on time?

#15
General discussion / Re: The FA Cup Thread
April 21, 2024, 06:36:58 PM
That's a couple or more times ETH has taken off his better players thinking the games won!

He might not make the final