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Title: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on June 20, 2020, 11:56:52 AM
Just thought we needed a thread to keep up with who’s been cancelled now... I’ve only been following closely the last 2 weeks

At the minute I have:

Jk Rowling
Joe Rogan

Is there anyone else I’m missing?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on June 20, 2020, 11:58:16 AM
Poor Katie Hopkins got cancelled from twitter.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 20, 2020, 12:04:51 PM
What did Joe Rogan do or say?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: shark on June 20, 2020, 12:14:22 PM
Just thought we needed a thread to keep up with who’s been cancelled now... I’ve only been following closely the last 2 weeks

At the minute I have:

Jk Rowling
Joe Rogan

Is there anyone else I’m missing?

When you have Rowling’s wealth you are “uncancellable”.
She has “F##k you” money. She doesn’t need to care about what anybody outside of her friends and family think.
Hopkins however needs to remain in the public eye, as it’s her source of income.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Kidder81 on June 20, 2020, 12:42:16 PM
Just thought we needed a thread to keep up with who’s been cancelled now... I’ve only been following closely the last 2 weeks

At the minute I have:

Jk Rowling
Joe Rogan

Is there anyone else I’m missing?

When you have Rowling’s wealth you are “uncancellable”.
She has “F##k you” money. She doesn’t need to care about what anybody outside of her friends and family think.
Hopkins however needs to remain in the public eye, as it’s her source of income.

Yeah not sure Rowling will give a f**k what the Twitter bubble thinks
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 20, 2020, 02:08:00 PM
What do you mean cancelled?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on June 20, 2020, 04:48:58 PM
What did Joe Rogan do or say?

This?
https://twitter.com/ChemicalMishap/status/1273159524791259137 (https://twitter.com/ChemicalMishap/status/1273159524791259137)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on June 20, 2020, 08:44:44 PM
Cecil Rhodes
Edward Coulston
Fawlty towers
Little Britain
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JohnDenver on June 22, 2020, 10:36:40 AM
Looks like the CEO of crossfit can be added to the list:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/style/greg-glassman-crossfit-sexism.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/style/greg-glassman-crossfit-sexism.html)

There seems to be a few Irish Comedians (not that i've heard of them) getting outed due their past behaviours on twitter over the weekend also.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2020, 12:33:38 PM
CrossFit guy resigned/was forced out a few weeks ago after it emerged he's a racist p***k. Hundreds of affiliated gyms worldwide left them and Reebok pulled their global sponsorship. Now this new stuff over the weekend. I wouldn't consider it him getting cancelled rather than getting his just desserts.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on June 22, 2020, 12:42:50 PM
CrossFit guy resigned/was forced out a few weeks ago after it emerged he's a racist p***k. Hundreds of affiliated gyms worldwide left them and Reebok pulled their global sponsorship. Now this new stuff over the weekend. I wouldn't consider it him getting cancelled rather than getting his just desserts.

He still owns the company.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Geoff Tipps on June 22, 2020, 12:43:15 PM
Looks like the CEO of crossfit can be added to the list:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/style/greg-glassman-crossfit-sexism.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/style/greg-glassman-crossfit-sexism.html)

There seems to be a few Irish Comedians (not that i've heard of them) getting outed due their past behaviours on twitter over the weekend also.

and some Irish musicians if you believe the accusations on Twitter.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2020, 01:46:52 PM
Nothing like a good aul which hunt..
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Orior on June 22, 2020, 02:01:28 PM
Tony Fearon
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 22, 2020, 02:07:58 PM
Trawling through historical tweets and comments, trying to get people cancelled, really makes the "liberal left" look terribly petty and vindictive.Trump supporters feed off this crap. Deal with the big picture and educate people, rather than being an online loser trying to get someone's livelihood removed.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on June 22, 2020, 02:10:46 PM
They are after Justin Bieber now, is nothing sacred anymore?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on June 22, 2020, 02:17:28 PM
Dejan Lovren has been liking Trump tweets. They've officially cancelled him. Allison a fan of Bolsonaro too by all accounts, but I dont think hes cancelled yet.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: MoChara on June 22, 2020, 02:22:22 PM
Trawling through historical tweets and comments, trying to get people cancelled, really makes the "liberal left" look terribly petty and vindictive.Trump supporters feed off this crap. Deal with the big picture and educate people, rather than being an online loser trying to get someone's livelihood removed.

How do you get to feel righteous and self-important then?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2020, 03:14:05 PM
CrossFit guy resigned/was forced out a few weeks ago after it emerged he's a racist p***k. Hundreds of affiliated gyms worldwide left them and Reebok pulled their global sponsorship. Now this new stuff over the weekend. I wouldn't consider it him getting cancelled rather than getting his just desserts.

He still owns the company.

He owns it but was forced to resign from any sort of executive role.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on June 22, 2020, 03:33:29 PM
CrossFit guy resigned/was forced out a few weeks ago after it emerged he's a racist p***k. Hundreds of affiliated gyms worldwide left them and Reebok pulled their global sponsorship. Now this new stuff over the weekend. I wouldn't consider it him getting cancelled rather than getting his just desserts.

He still owns the company.

He owns it but was forced to resign from any sort of executive role.

Not really helped in any way though, quite a few of the bigger names are still refusing to take part in the games upcoming until he's gone completely - including Emma McQuaid.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 22, 2020, 03:44:25 PM
Dejan Lovren has been liking Trump tweets. They've officially cancelled him. Allison a fan of Bolsonaro too by all accounts, but I dont think hes cancelled yet.

Lovren is a bit of an idiot judging by the political stuff he publicly endorses.

From what I read about Allison, supposedly he said that he was willing to give Bolsonaro a chance after the leftists having been in charge.

“I believe that people preach a lot of freedom of speech, but they don’t know how to respect the opinion of others. We have lived years where the left-wing has economically sunk the country. They did good things, they mainly helped the poorest, but what was the goal? What they did badly was much more serious than the positive things. You don’t have to put it on a scale. He did something wrong, he stole, but he helped so-and-so, the poor. It’s not like this.

“I see people who didn’t vote for Bolsonaro hoping he does something wrong to be right. It’s not a question of being right. If he’s a good president, it will be good for everyone, even those who didn’t vote for him. I hope that the changes that have happened are for the good of Brazil and that I can continue my journey in the national team and bring joy to people through football, which has always been an escape for our country.”


That said, Allison is still only 27. Personally I was just starting to get interested in politics at that point. I would presume, if he is as open-minded as he suggests in this quote, that he will equally see the negative effects of what Bolsonaro is doing, just like he did with the previous government, even as he acknowledged they tried to help the poor.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2020, 05:45:01 PM
When players sign a contract it should also bar them from having social media. Period!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on June 22, 2020, 05:51:16 PM
When players sign a contract it should also bar them from having social media. Period!

Would never work the profile of a Premier League player would mean that they need Social media for their endorsements and sponsorship.

They should be banned from posting anything of their own without being accompanied by a PR firm although they can land plenty of people in the shit as well!!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on June 22, 2020, 06:30:17 PM
When players sign a contract it should also bar them from having social media. Period!
Ulster says no.... to players on social media!!!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on June 22, 2020, 06:52:00 PM
When players sign a contract it should also bar them from having social media. Period!

Would never work the profile of a Premier League player would mean that they need Social media for their endorsements and sponsorship.

They should be banned from posting anything of their own without being accompanied by a PR firm although they can land plenty of people in the shit as well!!
So much for free speech ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2020, 07:07:20 PM
When players sign a contract it should also bar them from having social media. Period!

Would never work the profile of a Premier League player would mean that they need Social media for their endorsements and sponsorship.

They should be banned from posting anything of their own without being accompanied by a PR firm although they can land plenty of people in the shit as well!!

I know it’s impossible but as you said these things need to go through a PR savvy manager!

Like who really gives a f**k what they say? I’m not on Twitter, we’ll that’s not totally true I’m on it get scores in GAA and such.

I personally don’t get it
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: TheOptimist on June 22, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
So what is going on with  #irishcomedy. Came across it on Twitter but cant make head nor tail?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: MoChara on June 22, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
Some fella Davey Reilly books for a big comedy club in dublin was sending messages to a female comedian, Google his name and you'll get it
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on June 22, 2020, 11:23:17 PM
[quote ;D author=Milltown Row2 link=topic=29681.msg1978302#msg1978302 date=1592849240]
When players sign a contract it should also bar them from having social media. Period!

Would never work the profile of a Premier League player would mean that they need Social media for their endorsements and sponsorship.

They should be banned from posting anything of their own without being accompanied by a PR firm although they can land plenty of people in the shit as well!!

I know it’s impossible but as you said these things need to go through a PR savvy manager!

Like who really gives a f**k what they say? I’m not on Twitter, we’ll that’s not totally true I’m on it get scores in GAA and such.

I personally don’t get it
[/quote]

Still one of the best comedy bits ever done!!

https://youtu.be/Mo-ddYhXAZc
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on June 27, 2020, 07:28:07 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2020, 08:09:22 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.

Probably go for Marion Robert Morrison
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 27, 2020, 08:32:18 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.

Why?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2020, 08:35:54 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.

Why?

Playboy interview 1970 odds
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on June 27, 2020, 09:33:46 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.

Why?

Back in 1971, Wayne told Playboy ... "I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people."

And, there was more ... "I don't feel guilty about the fact that 5 or 10 generations ago these people were slaves."

And, then the actor set his sights on Native Americans ... "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them ... There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves."

And, Wayne went after gays, using a homophobic slur to refer to the 2 main characters in "Midnight Cowboy."
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 27, 2020, 09:49:02 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on June 27, 2020, 09:57:44 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.
its been out there but it’s selective outrage , jimmy kimmel , jimmy Fallon , Howard stern ,Justin Trudeau , governor of Virginia would be all gone for using black face and using n word , Megyn Kelly was fired for black face picture, depends on your politics.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: armaghniac on June 27, 2020, 11:08:28 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.

Will they take down the statue?

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2020, 11:18:10 PM
The blackface stuff was brought up here before. Unless the person is doing it to be a racist then why has it caused such outrage? White chicks? Did anyone complain about it?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on June 28, 2020, 10:56:06 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.
Could they not just say it is named after John Wayne Bobbit but they Symbolically cut off the end of the sign?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 28, 2020, 11:17:32 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.
Could they not just say it is named after John Wayne Bobbit but they Symbolically cut off the end of the sign?

Or they could just say “f**k off” and keep the name.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on June 29, 2020, 12:19:53 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.

I had definitely heard of it before, and it was remarked on at the time, but the reality is the US is going through an introspection about this sort of thing. Just because the interview wasn't widely known about doesn't mean it didn't happen or doesn't deserve attention now.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2020, 12:41:58 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.

Were you aware of his views?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2020, 12:53:27 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.
its been out there but it’s selective outrage , jimmy kimmel , jimmy Fallon , Howard stern ,Justin Trudeau , governor of Virginia would be all gone for using black face and using n word , Megyn Kelly was fired for black face picture, depends on your politics.

Megyn Kelly was not fired for a blackface picture.

She was defending people dressing up at Halloween.

Her ratings were in the toilet. That was the straw that broke the carmel’s back.

She had previous form, insisting while still at Fox News that Santa Claus had to be white!

Northam ludicrously brazened it out, denying the photo was him (after previously confirming it), but the only reason it worked was that the next two in line got enveloped in their own scandals the same week. Otherwise he’d have been gone.

I’m not too familiar with the other situations, but I’m guessing they did a massive mea culpa and held on. Except Howard Stern maybe. Offensiveness was his M.O.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: five points on June 29, 2020, 01:01:13 PM
John Wayne airport to be renamed.

At this rate, John Lennon and George Best won't last the week.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 29, 2020, 02:07:30 PM
Well if sleeping with a few Miss Worlds is enough to get ye cancelled these days ye may add me to this fcukin list

he said truthfully
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 29, 2020, 02:12:42 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.

Were you aware of his views?

No I wasn’t. Why is that relevant?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 29, 2020, 02:16:47 PM
I hope Micko never told any Corkman jokes, or the Rebels will be driving to Waterville to saw the head off his statue.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2020, 02:26:59 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.

Were you aware of his views?

No I wasn’t. Why is that relevant?

You're asking why all of a sudden its an issue after  years.

Most people probably weren't aware of his views or, especially, that interview.

Half of young people probably don't even know who John Wayne was.

Suddenly they find out who this statue is honouring and his right wing, reactionary outlook on life.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 29, 2020, 02:43:47 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.

Were you aware of his views?

No I wasn’t. Why is that relevant?

You're asking why all of a sudden its an issue after  years.

Most people probably weren't aware of his views or, especially, that interview.

Half of young people probably don't even know who John Wayne was.

Suddenly they find out who this statue is honouring and his right wing, reactionary outlook on life.

But people who read the interview and knew his views in 1971 obviously weren’t offended enough to call for him to apologise or his name to be removed from this or that. And apparently the airport named it after Wayne in 1979. Why didn’t someone object then?

Why didn’t someone call for his name to be removed from the airport 20, 10 or 5 years ago? They knew his views since at least 1971, and knew they were controversial. So why now?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2020, 02:59:25 PM
Ok fair enough.

The thing is, why was it not brought up before now? An interview nearly 50 years ago, and it’s only become an issue now? I mean, people can’t have been too offended if it took 50 years to realise it.

Were you aware of his views?

No I wasn’t. Why is that relevant?

You're asking why all of a sudden its an issue after  years.

Most people probably weren't aware of his views or, especially, that interview.

Half of young people probably don't even know who John Wayne was.

Suddenly they find out who this statue is honouring and his right wing, reactionary outlook on life.

But people who read the interview and knew his views in 1971 obviously weren’t offended enough to call for him to apologise or his name to be removed from this or that. And apparently the airport named it after Wayne in 1979. Why didn’t someone object then?

Why didn’t someone call for his name to be removed from the airport 20, 10 or 5 years ago? They knew his views since at least 1971, and knew they were controversial. So why now?

Is this a serious question?

The world was a very different place in 1971.

It was a very different place 20 years ago.

Society changes. Thankfully.

Homsexuality was illegal in Ireland into the 90s, for example.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 29, 2020, 03:14:07 PM
Ah come on, there was nobody in the whole of the US to draw attention to what Wayne said was wrong? It took FORTY NINE YEARS for someone to say, “holy f**k, I think thon Wayne boy was a bit racist”?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2020, 03:18:57 PM
Ah come on, there was nobody in the whole of the US to draw attention to what Wayne said was wrong? It took FORTY NINE YEARS for someone to say, “holy f**k, I think thon Wayne boy was a bit racist”?

But what he said wasn't exactly out of whack with the feeling of many at the time.

Why do you think Richard Nixon was elected twice?

Why have the GOP exploited racial tensions and become older and whiter as a party?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thewobbler on June 29, 2020, 03:19:06 PM
J70, if society is always changing, can we not maybe accept that someone born and raised in Iowa in 1907, might have developed opinions and ideologies that were culturally “of that time”?

If we are going to clear skeletons out of closets, there’s an awful lot of families in Ireland today have grandparents who either turned a blind eye to or helped cover up the obvious misdemeanours of the church. Personally I wouldn’t demonise such people, as their actions were “of the time”.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2020, 03:22:31 PM
J70, if society is always changing, can we not maybe accept that someone born and raised in Iowa in 1907, might have developed opinions and ideologies that were culturally “of that time”?

If we are going to clear skeletons out of closets, there’s an awful lot of families in Ireland today have grandparents who either turned a blind eye to or helped cover up the obvious misdemeanours of the church. Personally I wouldn’t demonise such people, as their actions were “of the time”.

I think we can absolutely condemn their actions, even if we "understand" them.

Doesn't mean we have to continue to honour them with airport names and pride-of-place statues.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thewobbler on June 29, 2020, 03:22:48 PM
Ah come on, there was nobody in the whole of the US to draw attention to what Wayne said was wrong? It took FORTY NINE YEARS for someone to say, “holy f**k, I think thon Wayne boy was a bit racist”?

Because those people who are determined to remove context from history, have fuelled in recent events enough to feel empowered to do so. But they’ll eventually piss off enough people that laws will be created to prevent this sort of thing happening.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: five points on June 29, 2020, 03:23:06 PM
J70, if society is always changing, can we not maybe accept that someone born and raised in Iowa in 1907, might have developed opinions and ideologies that were culturally “of that time”?

If we are going to clear skeletons out of closets, there’s an awful lot of families in Ireland today have grandparents who either turned a blind eye to or helped cover up the obvious misdemeanours of the church. Personally I wouldn’t demonise such people, as their actions were “of the time”.

It wasn't the church who kicked girls out of the house for getting pregnant. Or who tarred, feathered, slut-shamed and beat them for mixing with soldiers.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thewobbler on June 29, 2020, 03:24:37 PM
J70, if society is always changing, can we not maybe accept that someone born and raised in Iowa in 1907, might have developed opinions and ideologies that were culturally “of that time”?

If we are going to clear skeletons out of closets, there’s an awful lot of families in Ireland today have grandparents who either turned a blind eye to or helped cover up the obvious misdemeanours of the church. Personally I wouldn’t demonise such people, as their actions were “of the time”.

I think we can absolutely condemn their actions, even if we "understand" them.

Doesn't mean we have to continue to honour them with airport names and pride-of-place statues.

No we don’t. But nor do we have to agree in any shape of form with someone’s political or cultural beliefs (or misunderstandings) to appreciate the fact they’ve left a mark on this world. Taking a name off an airport doesn’t change the fact that he’s a figure of huge cultural importance to America.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2020, 03:28:59 PM
J70, if society is always changing, can we not maybe accept that someone born and raised in Iowa in 1907, might have developed opinions and ideologies that were culturally “of that time”?

If we are going to clear skeletons out of closets, there’s an awful lot of families in Ireland today have grandparents who either turned a blind eye to or helped cover up the obvious misdemeanours of the church. Personally I wouldn’t demonise such people, as their actions were “of the time”.

I think we can absolutely condemn their actions, even if we "understand" them.

Doesn't mean we have to continue to honour them with airport names and pride-of-place statues.

No we don’t. But nor do we have to agree in any shape of form with someone’s political or cultural beliefs (or misunderstandings) to appreciate the fact they’ve left a mark on this world. Taking a name off an airport doesn’t change the fact that he’s a figure of huge cultural importance to America.

You're right, it doesn't.

Same goes for statues or GAA club names.

Removing the name does not erase history.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on June 29, 2020, 03:42:02 PM
Dustin the Turkey is being cancelled.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2020, 05:44:19 PM
Carry on up the Khyber ?

Dome blackfacing in that film
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 29, 2020, 06:37:46 PM
Ah now..

https://mobile.twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1277293289625001986
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 29, 2020, 06:48:28 PM
No doubt this Friends episode will be next


Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2020, 07:29:39 PM
6 Mississippi’s!!!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on June 29, 2020, 11:39:36 PM
Stefan Molyneux has been banned from YouTube.

That's good news.

Should have happened a long time ago, mind.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on June 30, 2020, 11:20:02 AM
J70, if society is always changing, can we not maybe accept that someone born and raised in Iowa in 1907, might have developed opinions and ideologies that were culturally “of that time”?

If we are going to clear skeletons out of closets, there’s an awful lot of families in Ireland today have grandparents who either turned a blind eye to or helped cover up the obvious misdemeanours of the church. Personally I wouldn’t demonise such people, as their actions were “of the time”.

I think we can absolutely condemn their actions, even if we "understand" them.

Doesn't mean we have to continue to honour them with airport names and pride-of-place statues.

No we don’t. But nor do we have to agree in any shape of form with someone’s political or cultural beliefs (or misunderstandings) to appreciate the fact they’ve left a mark on this world. Taking a name off an airport doesn’t change the fact that he’s a figure of huge cultural importance to America.

We are misunderstanding the Playboy interview?

The general question is does someone's 'good' outweigh the 'bad'. I think JW shades it, but slave traders and people employed as propagandists for the Confederacy don't.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thewobbler on June 30, 2020, 01:22:06 PM
I think the bigger question is whether someone can be portrayed “of their time and culture” rather than as a plain old nasty piece of work.

And my underlying point being that almost every person will have ancestors who openly shared and practiced beliefs that wouldn’t sit easily in the modern world.  That’s who we evolved from folks. To hide it, bury it, pretend it didn’t happen isn’t (in my opinion) the right approach.

With regards to naming places after people, and putting up statues, ideally it would only involve people of impeccable virtues. But that requires us to hide history from the next generations, rather than evaluate it.

Those who are determined to remove statues might be better served by installing plaques beside them which explain why this person should be remembered, but not necessarily celebrated.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on June 30, 2020, 01:41:28 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: nrico2006 on June 30, 2020, 01:43:11 PM
No doubt this Friends episode will be next




Should the film White Chicks be banned too?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: TabClear on June 30, 2020, 01:43:54 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

Controversial.....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2020, 01:53:40 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

Controversial.....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt

Just while we are at it take down the Colosseum! Slaves fighting for their lives? Christians thrown to the lions!

But no, stop watching Carry on up The Khyber and rename that damn airport
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thewobbler on June 30, 2020, 01:58:13 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

Controversial.....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt

I’ve no idea if slaves built the pyramids or not. But the problem I would have with that article is that the sources really, really, really, really want to believe slaves were not involved. So they’re about as objective as Pat Spillane in his “areal of expertise”.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on June 30, 2020, 02:15:04 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

Controversial.....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt
That is why I said built by slave owners, not built by slaves. I have not seen any sources saying the Pharoahs, commemorated by the pyramids, did not own slaves.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on June 30, 2020, 04:24:54 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on June 30, 2020, 04:25:51 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

Controversial.....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt

Just while we are at it take down the Colosseum! Slaves fighting for their lives? Christians thrown to the lions!



Also, neither happened.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2020, 05:45:07 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

Controversial.....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt

Just while we are at it take down the Colosseum! Slaves fighting for their lives? Christians thrown to the lions!



Also, neither happened.

Gladiator : Most were despised as slaves, schooled under harsh conditions, socially marginalized, and segregated even in death.

Christians did die after the fire of Rome by Nero, When they were blamed for starting the fire, though they were mainly martyrs 
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on June 30, 2020, 10:49:03 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on July 01, 2020, 01:33:00 AM
It's not all doom and gloom, Casement's legacy has gone up a few notches. He's too good for Antrim now.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 01, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on July 01, 2020, 02:14:06 PM
You just stick to Eoin O’Duffy there.
O'Duffy? vanished, nowhere to be seen, hardly a trace left behind since he's been airbrushed from history by Fine Gael with a stalanist efficiency.
And who wants to hear tales about a gay Garda commisioner in 1922 who loved to dress up for parades, with a bit of a drinking problem and a monaghan accent to boot?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on July 01, 2020, 02:27:36 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on July 01, 2020, 03:53:00 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on July 01, 2020, 04:46:38 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport or lived in that town and was aware of his statements, I might have some questions as to why he continues to be honoured.

As for your second question, you think a vanished civilization that built pyramids 5000 years ago is as relevant to society today as the enslavement and discrimination of black Americans?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2020, 05:42:38 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport or lived in that town and was aware of his statements, I might have some questions as to why he continues to be honoured.

As for your second question, you think a vanished civilization that built pyramids 5000 years ago is as relevant to society today as the enslavement and discrimination of black Americans?
Will black enslavement be ok in 5000 years?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on July 01, 2020, 06:11:58 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport or lived in that town and was aware of his statements, I might have some questions as to why he continues to be honoured.

As for your second question, you think a vanished civilization that built pyramids 5000 years ago is as relevant to society today as the enslavement and discrimination of black Americans?
Will black enslavement be ok in 5000 years?

Obviously not.

Will airports, schools and army bases be named and statues recently erected and flags in use honouring black enslavement in 5000 years?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2020, 08:40:17 PM
I don’t know, I do know that Castlebar Mitchels will still be called Castlebar Mitchels  ;)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on July 01, 2020, 10:09:47 PM
Wonder did the moors enslave people ?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on July 01, 2020, 10:22:25 PM
Wonder did the moors enslave people ?

Google is your friend.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on July 01, 2020, 10:53:59 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport or lived in that town and was aware of his statements, I might have some questions as to why he continues to be honoured.

As for your second question, you think a vanished civilization that built pyramids 5000 years ago is as relevant to society today as the enslavement and discrimination of black Americans?

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport I might think he was an old racist, but I might not be that bothered as he was representative of his time. I might know he was not being celebrated because of his views but because of his acting career. I might think the call out culture was not real activisim, it was a way of people feeling righteous and good about themselves without doing anything real and I might know that not everyone was pure or perfect, that everyone has flaws, that ideas and opinions evolved and not everything looks great through the microscope of history but that we cannot whitewash history to our current norms.
 
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on July 01, 2020, 10:58:15 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport or lived in that town and was aware of his statements, I might have some questions as to why he continues to be honoured.

As for your second question, you think a vanished civilization that built pyramids 5000 years ago is as relevant to society today as the enslavement and discrimination of black Americans?

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport I might think he was an old racist, but I might not be that bothered as he was representative of his time. I might know he was not being celebrated because of his views but because of his acting career. I might think the call out culture was not real activisim, it was a way of people feeling righteous and good about themselves without doing anything real and I might know that not everyone was pure or perfect, that everyone has flaws, that ideas and opinions evolved and not everything looks great through the microscope of history.
Interesting that John Wayne's son said that Big John would not have stood by while a police office strangled the life out of a person, he said he would have done the right thing and effectively intervened , that was how his Da lived his life. Not a quiet man after all.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on July 02, 2020, 12:05:31 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport or lived in that town and was aware of his statements, I might have some questions as to why he continues to be honoured.

As for your second question, you think a vanished civilization that built pyramids 5000 years ago is as relevant to society today as the enslavement and discrimination of black Americans?

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport I might think he was an old racist, but I might not be that bothered as he was representative of his time. I might know he was not being celebrated because of his views but because of his acting career. I might think the call out culture was not real activisim, it was a way of people feeling righteous and good about themselves without doing anything real and I might know that not everyone was pure or perfect, that everyone has flaws, that ideas and opinions evolved and not everything looks great through the microscope of history but that we cannot whitewash history to our current norms.

I agree that it some cases it is lazy activism. However, many of these statues and names and so on have been the subject of ongoing efforts for years. Just because all of a sudden there is a groundswell of awareness in the wake of George Floyd doesn’t make it an invalid concern. Sometimes it takes single, large events to shift public opinion and change society for the better. Do you think Mississippi changing its flag was the correct thing to do, or should they have tried to hold on yet again and continued to honour the confederacy?

And how is making such changes “whitewashing” history? No one is going to forget the US Civil War or the worldwide slave trade or the fact that racism was and is a problem for black people. There are no statues to Hitler or use of the Nazi swastika except maybe in a few bigoted, white supremacist clubs, but no one is forgetting or diluting what he and his henchmen inflicted on the world.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on July 02, 2020, 01:31:30 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport or lived in that town and was aware of his statements, I might have some questions as to why he continues to be honoured.

As for your second question, you think a vanished civilization that built pyramids 5000 years ago is as relevant to society today as the enslavement and discrimination of black Americans?

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport I might think he was an old racist, but I might not be that bothered as he was representative of his time. I might know he was not being celebrated because of his views but because of his acting career. I might think the call out culture was not real activisim, it was a way of people feeling righteous and good about themselves without doing anything real and I might know that not everyone was pure or perfect, that everyone has flaws, that ideas and opinions evolved and not everything looks great through the microscope of history but that we cannot whitewash history to our current norms.

I agree that it some cases it is lazy activism. However, many of these statues and names and so on have been the subject of ongoing efforts for years. Just because all of a sudden there is a groundswell of awareness in the wake of George Floyd doesn’t make it an invalid concern. Sometimes it takes single, large events to shift public opinion and change society for the better. Do you think Mississippi changing its flag was the correct thing to do, or should they have tried to hold on yet again and continued to honour the confederacy?

And how is making such changes “whitewashing” history? No one is going to forget the US Civil War or the worldwide slave trade or the fact that racism was and is a problem for black people. There are no statues to Hitler or use of the Nazi swastika except maybe in a few bigoted, white supremacist clubs, but no one is forgetting or diluting what he and his henchmen inflicted on the world.
Mississippi changing the flag is the right thing to do. The confederate flag is A symbol of that time and is still used as a symbol of division. I wouldn’t cancel Dukes of Hazard because they had it in the roof of the General Lee.
Confederate Generals, Rhodes, Coulson I am in 2 minds about.

There is an expression don’t seek to offend, don’t seek to be offended.

By whitewashing I am referring to the removal of anyone and anything that does not meet today’s standards.

A few years ago Edinburgh considered putting up a statue of JK Rowling. If it had went up would her stance on Trans issues justify its removal?
The statue would not have been to celebrate her views.
The statue of Joe Dolan in Mullingar was not erected because he performed in South Africa during apartheid.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on July 02, 2020, 01:59:01 PM
Is there a statute of limitations on this?
The Pyramids were built by slave owners.

No they weren't
The Egyptians didn’t have slaves?

At some points in the empire, they did. But not when the pyramids were built.

Does it matter in the context of this discussion?

No one is naming schools after Khufu or building statues to Ramses II or using flags or symbols from Ancient Egypt to make political points or intimidate.

Maybe someday our civilization will fall, a new one will rise, and ancient artifacts from our time will be looked on as archaeological curiosities rather than poisonous, still relevant, symbols from recent history.

Is anyone using Mitchell or Wayne to make political points or to intimidate?

I am trying to figure out when something becomes a curiosity of history that we can look back on.

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport or lived in that town and was aware of his statements, I might have some questions as to why he continues to be honoured.

As for your second question, you think a vanished civilization that built pyramids 5000 years ago is as relevant to society today as the enslavement and discrimination of black Americans?

If I was a black person flying into John Wayne airport I might think he was an old racist, but I might not be that bothered as he was representative of his time. I might know he was not being celebrated because of his views but because of his acting career. I might think the call out culture was not real activisim, it was a way of people feeling righteous and good about themselves without doing anything real and I might know that not everyone was pure or perfect, that everyone has flaws, that ideas and opinions evolved and not everything looks great through the microscope of history but that we cannot whitewash history to our current norms.

I agree that it some cases it is lazy activism. However, many of these statues and names and so on have been the subject of ongoing efforts for years. Just because all of a sudden there is a groundswell of awareness in the wake of George Floyd doesn’t make it an invalid concern. Sometimes it takes single, large events to shift public opinion and change society for the better. Do you think Mississippi changing its flag was the correct thing to do, or should they have tried to hold on yet again and continued to honour the confederacy?

And how is making such changes “whitewashing” history? No one is going to forget the US Civil War or the worldwide slave trade or the fact that racism was and is a problem for black people. There are no statues to Hitler or use of the Nazi swastika except maybe in a few bigoted, white supremacist clubs, but no one is forgetting or diluting what he and his henchmen inflicted on the world.
Mississippi changing the flag is the right thing to do. The confederate flag is A symbol of that time and is still used as a symbol of division. I wouldn’t cancel Dukes of Hazard because they had it in the roof of the General Lee.
Confederate Generals, Rhodes, Coulson I am in 2 minds about.

There is an expression don’t seek to offend, don’t seek to be offended.

By whitewashing I am referring to the removal of anyone and anything that does not meet today’s standards.

A few years ago Edinburgh considered putting up a statue of JK Rowling. If it had went up would her stance on Trans issues justify its removal?
The statue would not have been to celebrate her views.
The statue of Joe Dolan in Mullingar was not erected because he performed in South Africa during apartheid.

I accept that. This is not, in many cases, an easy, right/wrong issue.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on July 02, 2020, 02:36:31 PM
Why was Luke Kelly’s statue attacked recently?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: TabClear on July 02, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
Edit: Apologies in advance J70/Leo if I have messed up the quotes below. I was trying to cut down the text!

This is an important point from my perspective. As has been pointed out there are lots of things in society  that look pretty poor now because attitudes and society has changed. Thats not to say that it should have been accepted in the past but banning episodes of Only fools and horses or Fawlty towers is not doing much to address the true issues today. If anything I think they detract from it because a) it distracts attention from the true issues b) it tends to get an abnormal amount of media attention, particularly in the red tops because it is about a celebrity/favourite character etc and it is divisive which sells papers and c), and in my opinion most importantly, it  puts the more moderate, balanced individual off supporting more meaningful action because they dont want to be associated with some raving looney on social media who is burning effigies of Basil Fawlty in one post while the next post is calling for a valid legislative or social change.

I know the examples above are slightly tongue in cheek but I am firmly of the view that many of these movements be it feminism, anti racism, LBGT etc are hurt by their most ardent supporters purely because they refuse to see anything other than injustice wherever possible (i.e. seek to be offended) and like nothing better than a social media crusade or witchhunt. One that sticks in my head last year (due to the amount of said books in my kids bedrooms!) was when the Mr Men and Little MIss books were accused of sexism by some clown who decided to take offense at a one line joke in one book because a female character was deemed to be the butt of teh joke. Jesus wept!



Mississippi changing the flag is the right thing to do. The confederate flag is A symbol of that time and is still used as a symbol of division. I wouldn’t cancel Dukes of Hazard because they had it in the roof of the General Lee.
Confederate Generals, Rhodes, Coulson I am in 2 minds about.

There is an expression don’t seek to offend, don’t seek to be offended.

By whitewashing I am referring to the removal of anyone and anything that does not meet today’s standards.

A few years ago Edinburgh considered putting up a statue of JK Rowling. If it had went up would her stance on Trans issues justify its removal?
The statue would not have been to celebrate her views.
The statue of Joe Dolan in Mullingar was not erected because he performed in South Africa during apartheid.

I accept that. This is not, in many cases, an easy, right/wrong issue.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: ONeill on July 02, 2020, 04:45:01 PM
I don't like the look of those tin men up in Strabane.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LeoMc on July 02, 2020, 05:00:04 PM
I don't like the look of those tin men up in Strabane.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2020, 07:26:27 PM
David Starkey.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2020, 09:55:44 PM
Dave Portnoy.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on July 02, 2020, 10:05:02 PM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2020, 10:08:39 PM
Had to google the last one, net worth £450 million, he’ll not give a hoot

But Starkey? WTF?

Now Columbus! Worlds gone crazy
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2020, 10:09:59 PM
Ewan MacKenna

(cant find his thread was it deleted)?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on July 02, 2020, 10:10:34 PM
Manchester City's fifth goal.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on July 02, 2020, 10:51:57 PM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2020, 10:57:11 PM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?

The Vikings ?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2020, 11:06:58 PM
Washington Redskins under p too
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Capt Pat on July 02, 2020, 11:13:17 PM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?

The Vikings ?

Brendan was the first.

More correctly the places didn't need to be discovered as they were already occupied and discovered.

I don't see what Columbus did wrong. All he did was discover the place. The wrongs that were committed against the natives and blacks etc were done by those who came after him.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2020, 11:15:29 PM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?

The Vikings ?

Brendan was the first.

More correctly the places didn't need to be discovered as they were already occupied and discovered.

I don't see what Columbus did wrong. All he did was discover the place. The wongs that were committed against the natives and blacks etc were done by those who came after him.
Jesus dont mention the wongs.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JoG2 on July 02, 2020, 11:22:58 PM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?

The Vikings ?

Brendan was the first.

More correctly the places didn't need to be discovered as they were already occupied and discovered.

I don't see what Columbus did wrong. All he did was discover the place. The wongs that were committed against the natives and blacks etc were done by those who came after him.
Jesus dont mention the wongs.
;D

A genuine lol moment  :D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on July 02, 2020, 11:55:49 PM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?

The Vikings ?

Brendan was the first.

More correctly the places didn't need to be discovered as they were already occupied and discovered.

I don't see what Columbus did wrong. All he did was discover the place. The wongs that were committed against the natives and blacks etc were done by those who came after him.
Jesus dont mention the wongs.

There’ll be no statue for you Tony  ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on July 03, 2020, 01:47:02 AM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?

Who knows?

Its terrible given that all historical knowledge hinges on a few statues.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on July 03, 2020, 01:48:56 AM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?

The Vikings ?

Brendan was the first.

More correctly the places didn't need to be discovered as they were already occupied and discovered.

I don't see what Columbus did wrong. All he did was discover the place. The wrongs that were committed against the natives and blacks etc were done by those who came after him.

You might want to look into that again.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: armaghniac on July 03, 2020, 09:02:55 AM
Sure everyone knows that St Brendan 'discovered' America. Colombus came to Ireland to research his trip. Since St Brendan likely didn't kill anyone or enslave them then his statue should go there.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 09:25:29 AM
What nation has not been offended? What community has not been offend or culture or skin colour? This could go on for a long time!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on July 03, 2020, 09:56:16 AM
Washington Redskins under p too

No pressure on Notre Dame to remove their wee mascot thingy?

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 03, 2020, 10:11:38 AM
Christopher Columbus statues coming down all over USA and Columbus Ohio talking about a name change, pure madness

That is mad

So will CC be erased from history? Who will they say discovered America now?

The Vikings ?

Brendan was the first.

More correctly the places didn't need to be discovered as they were already occupied and discovered.

I don't see what Columbus did wrong. All he did was discover the place. The wrongs that were committed against the natives and blacks etc were done by those who came after him.

Oh dear.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: armaghniac on July 03, 2020, 10:23:48 AM
America might not have been discovered, but setting up travel to there from Europe was an important achievement.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on July 03, 2020, 10:30:29 AM
America might not have been discovered, but setting up travel to there from Europe was an important achievement.

For who?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 03, 2020, 10:35:21 AM
America might not have been discovered, but setting up travel to there from Europe was an important achievement.

I think the locals might have disagreed.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on July 03, 2020, 10:00:16 PM
Mount Rushmore
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on July 03, 2020, 10:19:31 PM
Mount Rushmore
I think Off The Ball just ran out of counties to do one for.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on July 03, 2020, 11:30:10 PM
Mount Rushmore

Don’t you mean Count Rushmore?

Are the protestors hacking away at the presidents with chisels or what?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 06, 2020, 09:25:35 PM
Tony Fearon

Does he still read the board?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 08, 2020, 11:06:43 AM
Tony Fearon

Does he still read the board?

Was he not the fella got banned over some rant about Catholic Church?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Denn Forever on July 08, 2020, 01:30:50 PM
Pro or Con?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 08, 2020, 01:58:45 PM
Can't mind the exact ins and outs of it but it went through about 4 or 5 different threads bringing up points that weren't addressed in the main thread.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 08, 2020, 02:23:45 PM
Can't mind the exact ins and outs of it but it went through about 4 or 5 different threads bringing up points that weren't addressed in the main thread.
There was a particular thread about child abuse within the Church and at one point I think he was saying the parents had to accept responsibility for not looking after the children properly. Something to that effect.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: five points on July 08, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
Can't mind the exact ins and outs of it but it went through about 4 or 5 different threads bringing up points that weren't addressed in the main thread.
There was a particular thread about child abuse within the Church and at one point I think he was saying the parents had to accept responsibility for not looking after the children properly. Something to that effect.

...and that got him banned?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on July 08, 2020, 02:32:21 PM
Mount Rushmore

Don’t you mean Count Rushmore?

Are the protestors hacking away at the presidents with chisels or what?

The guy who painted the faces on the mountain?

Why was Mount Rushmere not an issue for left wing socialist Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton or in 2008 the African-American presendential hopeful Barack Obama?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 08, 2020, 03:02:33 PM
Can't mind the exact ins and outs of it but it went through about 4 or 5 different threads bringing up points that weren't addressed in the main thread.
There was a particular thread about child abuse within the Church and at one point I think he was saying the parents had to accept responsibility for not looking after the children properly. Something to that effect.

...and that got him banned?

Lets just say it was a cumulation of things 😉😃
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: laoislad on July 08, 2020, 03:28:03 PM
Can't mind the exact ins and outs of it but it went through about 4 or 5 different threads bringing up points that weren't addressed in the main thread.
There was a particular thread about child abuse within the Church and at one point I think he was saying the parents had to accept responsibility for not looking after the children properly. Something to that effect.

...and that got him banned?
He was defending the Padeo Priests and blaming the Parents of the kids that were abused.
Also said if his son or daughter was Gay he would disown them.
He was/is a cnut,good riddance to him.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: five points on July 08, 2020, 04:43:58 PM
Can't mind the exact ins and outs of it but it went through about 4 or 5 different threads bringing up points that weren't addressed in the main thread.
There was a particular thread about child abuse within the Church and at one point I think he was saying the parents had to accept responsibility for not looking after the children properly. Something to that effect.

...and that got him banned?
He was defending the Padeo Priests and blaming the Parents of the kids that were abused.
Also said if his son or daughter was Gay he would disown them.
Quite a difference between that and the description highlighted in bold above.
Quote
He was/is a cnut,good riddance to him.
Charming, that.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on July 08, 2020, 04:53:06 PM
Don't think Fearon was banned.. He's still entering every competition he can on Twitter.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2020, 01:59:00 PM
Angry Claude off AFTV is a faller.

Had never heard of that particular racial slur before now.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on July 15, 2020, 02:15:30 PM
Mount Rushmore

Don’t you mean Count Rushmore?

Are the protestors hacking away at the presidents with chisels or what?

The guy who painted the faces on the mountain?

Why was Mount Rushmere not an issue for left wing socialist Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton or in 2008 the African-American presendential hopeful Barack Obama?


Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 09:21:39 AM
Surprised they never went after Gervais and The Office, there was some close to the bone gags in that one on a variety of areas. Maybe the style of the show prevents it from getting too much heat?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2020, 09:28:40 AM
You wouldn’t have, you reel to reel.

Sounds like an ageist/culchie slur to me.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 04:10:57 PM
Victims of "cancel culture":

Barry Cowen
The 8th Amendment
Harvey Weinstein
Rule 42
Fr. Brendan Smyth
Magdalene laundries
The RUC
The Berlin Wall
Apartheid in South Africa
The right of a man to have sex with his wife at any time without being accused of rape
The marriage bar in the Civil Service
The GAA "ban"
The Nazis
The British Empire
The Black and Tans
Captain Boycott

Shame, shame, shame on you cancellers
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: five points on July 16, 2020, 05:01:54 PM
Victims of "cancel culture":

Barry Cowen
The 8th Amendment
Harvey Weinstein
Rule 42
Fr. Brendan Smyth
Magdalene laundries
The RUC
The Berlin Wall
Apartheid in South Africa
The right of a man to have sex with his wife at any time without being accused of rape
The marriage bar in the Civil Service
The GAA "ban"
The Nazis
The British Empire
The Black and Tans
Captain Boycott

Shame, shame, shame on you cancellers

Of that long list, only the top 3 existed as public figures or phenomena in the past 2-3 years since cancel culture became a big issue. The rest is post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on July 16, 2020, 06:10:35 PM
Victims of "cancel culture":

Barry Cowen
The 8th Amendment
Harvey Weinstein
Rule 42
Fr. Brendan Smyth
Magdalene laundries
The RUC
The Berlin Wall
Apartheid in South Africa
The right of a man to have sex with his wife at any time without being accused of rape
The marriage bar in the Civil Service
The GAA "ban"
The Nazis
The British Empire
The Black and Tans
Captain Boycott

Shame, shame, shame on you cancellers

Of that long list, only the top 3 existed as public figures or phenomena in the past 2-3 years since cancel culture became a big issue. The rest is post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
if Twitter disappeared somehow so would cancel culture. People like Gervais don’t care what is said about them on Twitter .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 07:30:34 PM
Victims of "cancel culture":

Barry Cowen
The 8th Amendment
Harvey Weinstein
Rule 42
Fr. Brendan Smyth
Magdalene laundries
The RUC
The Berlin Wall
Apartheid in South Africa
The right of a man to have sex with his wife at any time without being accused of rape
The marriage bar in the Civil Service
The GAA "ban"
The Nazis
The British Empire
The Black and Tans
Captain Boycott

Shame, shame, shame on you cancellers

Of that long list, only the top 3 existed as public figures or phenomena in the past 2-3 years since cancel culture became a big issue. The rest is post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

All are victims of so called "cancel culture".

So called "cancel culture" either includes the above, or it is not actually a thing.

Online posters who use latin and the word "fallacy" to are generally dunderheads.

Especially people who are pushing a concept designed to protect establishment power but who then throw their toys out of the pram when they're presented with obvious examples of the concept they're trying to push - examples they don't like.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 09:53:37 PM
All of the following are victims and/or targets of so called "cancel culture".

Otherwise the term is completely meaningless.

Colin Kaepernick
Alfred Dreyfus
Martin Luther King
Robert F. Kennedy
Michael Collins
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe
Muhammad Ali
Airey Neave
Iris Robinson
Jim Lynagh
Gerry Adams
Paul Canoville (1980s Chelsea player)
The victims of Anders Behring Breivik
Richard Bacon
Judge Maurice Gibson and his wife
Dermot Morgan
Ferenc Puskas
Clive Tyldesley
Diane Abbott
Alexander Vindman
Marie Yovanovitch
Maria Bailey
Mick McCarthy
Noel Browne
Des O'Malley
Julian Assange
Ibrahim Halawa
Rody Molloy (FÁS)
Paul Kelly (Rehab)
Garth Brooks - Croke Park 2014
Margaret Thatcher
Winston Churchill
Eileen Flynn (teacher in Wexford)
The Paris Climate Accord
Reality Winner (whistleblower about Russian interference in US elections)
Eamon Coleman
Gerald McCarthy
Justin McCarthy
Babs Keating
Nicolas Anelka
Jeremy Corbyn
Rebecca Long-Bailey
Ken Livingstone
David Irving
Shamima Begum
Evo Morales
Henry Kissinger
Veronica Guerin
Johann Hari
Nicolae and Elena Ceaucescu
The victims of the Christchurch Mosque murderer
Michelle Smith-De Bruin
That Harlequins player with the fake blood capsule in his mouth and coach Dean Richards
Dominic McGlinchey
Hillary Clinton
Angus Deayton
Hansie Cronje
Israel Folau
Wendell Sailor
Lance Armstrong
Paul Kimmage
Joanne Hayes
Garda Maurice McCabe
Clare Daly TD
The Nelson pillar, Dublin
Ron Davies MP (Welsh Secretary 1998)
That Scotch Chief Medical Officer whose name I can't remember
Ilhan Omar
Tony Keady
Sackville Street, Dublin
DeSean Jackson
Face masks during Covid-19
Covid-19
The European Union
California Democratic Congresswoman Katie Hill
OJ Simpson
Vaccines
The Lenin Stadium, Moscow
Al Franken
The families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre
Daphne Caruana Galizia
Saddam Hussein
Colonel Muammar Gadaffi
Tony Blair
Jamal Khashoggi
Sergei Skripal
Ron Atkinson
Michael D. Higgins
John Bercow
Adam Schiff
The Bloody Sunday victims
Tim Parry and Jonathan Ball
Salvador Allende
Jason Lee (1990s footballer)
Luke Chadwick
Mo Johnston
Mohammad Mossadegh
Professor Neil Ferguson
Nelson Mandela
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
Ivan Rogers UK civil servant
Sir Kim Darroch UK ambassador to US
Mark Sedwill UK civil servant
Dominic Grieve MP
Cigarette smoking in pubs
Drink driving
Leo Varadkar
Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle
The idea that wage increases should keep pace with productivity gains
Trade unions
Black Lives Matter
The Irish language
The Incas
The sacred Black Hills of the Lakota Sioux (one of which is now called "Mount Rushmore")
TV licence fees
British Rail
Frank Bough
Public healthcare
Roderic O'Gorman
The victims of the Amritsar massacre
Frances Fitzgerald
The Romanovs
The Italian House of Savoy
Osama Bin Laden
The Sun newspaper in Liverpool
Ghislaine Maxwell
John Carlos and Tommie Smith, also Peter Norman (black power salute at Mexico '68)
The victims of lynching in the Jim Crow era in the US
Tom Humphries
Anna Politkovskaya
The victims of the Sharpeville massacre
Michael Brown
Eric Garner
Ahmaud Arbery
Breonna Taylor
George Floyd
























Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on July 17, 2020, 09:07:57 AM
the dambusters dog
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 17, 2020, 10:02:42 AM
the dambusters dog

"That was in the 40s aswell before racism was bad"

David Brent
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on July 30, 2020, 10:17:33 PM
The Argos catalogue

This is classic "cancel culture" in action, whatever it's supposed to mean
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2020, 10:18:13 PM
The Argos catalogue

This is classic "cancel culture" in action, whatever it's supposed to mean
Gutted. Our wee fella loves them.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Capt Pat on July 31, 2020, 12:15:03 AM
The statues of so called slaves outside the shelbourne hotel.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 31, 2020, 09:25:43 AM
The statues of so called slaves outside the shelbourne hotel.

'So called' slaves? They had manacles on their feet. Pressure for their removal came from the American owners.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: five points on July 31, 2020, 11:34:31 AM
The statues of so called slaves outside the shelbourne hotel.

'So called' slaves? They had manacles on their feet. Pressure for their removal came from the American owners.

This is disputed. "Ankle bracelets" have been mentioned. I'm not in a position to judge but manacles would be an odd item to depict on Victorian-era decorative statuary.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on July 31, 2020, 12:04:40 PM
The statues of so called slaves outside the shelbourne hotel.

'So called' slaves? They had manacles on their feet. Pressure for their removal came from the American owners.
Bloody communist libertarian capitalists, you couldn't be up to them
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 31, 2020, 07:00:55 PM
Not before time.

https://www.thejournal.ie/gemma-odoherty-twitter-5165384-Jul2020/?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on August 01, 2020, 06:00:35 PM
Tampax ads
TikTok

The raving right-wing loonies at it again with their beloved cancel culture

They hate free speech
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Capt Pat on August 02, 2020, 12:23:11 PM
Ellen De Generis and her show.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: general_lee on August 02, 2020, 12:31:31 PM
Paddy Raff... if Jamie Bryson gets his way lol
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GJL on August 02, 2020, 01:10:37 PM
Paddy Raff... if Jamie Bryson gets his way lol
That’s no great loss.

His TV stuff is middling but the stuff on LAD was first class.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on August 02, 2020, 02:06:45 PM
Ellen De Generis and her show.

Good. Can’t stand that woman
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Minder on August 02, 2020, 05:40:59 PM
Paddy Raff... if Jamie Bryson gets his way lol
That’s no great loss.

His TV stuff is middling but the stuff on LAD was first class.
It’s not middling. It’s utter shite.

Yep total shite, LAD & his current “comedy”
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2020, 07:31:14 PM
I couldn’t believe how bad his tv show was. Only watched one but dunno if there was more.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: armaghniac on August 02, 2020, 07:48:29 PM
You'd get better jokes on GAA board from mere amateurs.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: ONeill on August 02, 2020, 09:56:05 PM
Paddy Raff... if Jamie Bryson gets his way lol
That’s no great loss.

His TV stuff is middling but the stuff on LAD was first class.
It’s not middling. It’s utter shite.

I was starting to think I was the only one who could see this.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2020, 10:05:38 PM
While I don’t think he’s hugely funny is it really a reason to cancel him? Because he antagonised Bryson and people of that ilk who fully deserve it? (I’m not even sure he was the one that did all that)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: delgany on August 02, 2020, 10:15:06 PM
Paddy Raff... if Jamie Bryson gets his way lol
That’s no great loss.

His TV stuff is middling but the stuff on LAD was first class.
It’s not middling. It’s utter shite.

I was starting to think I was the only one who could see this.

TV show was completely dire!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Minder on August 02, 2020, 10:31:25 PM
I couldn’t believe how bad his tv show was. Only watched one but dunno if there was more.

He has a decent Twitter following which seems to count for a lot these days
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 02, 2020, 11:28:10 PM
While I don’t think he’s hugely funny is it really a reason to cancel him? Because he antagonised Bryson and people of that ilk who fully deserve it? (I’m not even sure he was the one that did all that)
He has the odd good wee standalone skit on his socials but not enough to carry a 30 min tv episode.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on August 03, 2020, 07:47:14 AM
Tony Fearon tells better jokes.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: MoChara on August 03, 2020, 09:11:23 AM
Tony Fearon tells better jokes.

Did Tony Fearon get canceled?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 04, 2020, 10:58:12 AM
I see a business belonging to McWhearty (of LAdfleg fame) had its windows put in last night.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2020, 11:04:37 AM
Tony Fearon tells better jokes.

Did Tony Fearon get canceled?

Banned I think.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JohnDenver on August 05, 2020, 10:30:43 AM
Laura Whitmore is getting her share of attention today on twitter (probably could have went on the twitter thread)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2020, 02:45:26 PM
Laura Whitmore is getting her share of attention today on twitter (probably could have went on the twitter thread)

Just another stupid person of her generation in this country.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on August 06, 2020, 05:55:08 PM
Yet another innocent victim of  woke cancel culture gets the chop.

David Duke, ex Fine Gael and ex grand wizard of the KKK, current Trump/Farage devotee.
After 11 years tweeting harmless race hate messages etc , Twitter finally suspended his account for good. 
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on August 15, 2020, 01:15:00 AM
Extreme Trump fanboi Bill Mitchell.

The white supremacist on the US politics thread will need to find a new far right Twitter account to copy and paste his posts from - should take about one second.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on August 21, 2020, 10:25:32 AM
Dara Calleary, another victim of "cancel culture"

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on August 25, 2020, 10:11:07 AM
From the man who refuses to be cancelled the intrepid Woody Allen, I listened to his nearly cancelled book which also gives account of the concerted attempts to cancel him, to boycott him. It’s read by Woody himself.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on August 27, 2020, 11:10:39 AM
So called "cancel culture" has claimed Big Phil Hogan

Also Republican Jew hater Mary-Ann Mendoza, you can't even deny the Holocaust these days and those nasty cancellers want to cancel you

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on August 27, 2020, 11:19:40 AM
Not yet "cancelled": white supremacist terrorism supporter Tucker Carlson

Seems the power of so called "cancel culture" may be overrated
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 29, 2020, 02:37:06 PM
Jeff Stelling ‘considering quitting Soccer Saturday’ after ‘best mates’ Le Tissier, Thompson and Nicholas get sacked.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on September 13, 2020, 08:45:54 PM
Fascist Catholic-hater David Vance

This is an outrage! Those damn lefties silencing brave freeze peach warriors!

Also cancelled: "left-wing comedy" on BBC (wasn't aware there much of it, but there you go)

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 13, 2020, 10:51:31 PM
Question of Sport presenter and team captains.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Bronco on September 13, 2020, 10:52:43 PM
Long overdue, it's been treading water for over a decade.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2020, 10:54:45 PM
Question of Sport presenter and team captains.

Why?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Kidder81 on September 13, 2020, 10:57:27 PM
Question of Sport presenter and team captains.

Why?

Wrong colour I assume and too old
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2020, 11:03:02 PM
Question of Sport presenter and team captains.

Why?

Wrong colour I assume and too old

Ah, it’s the only ‘sports’ show my wife will watch!

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Bronco on September 13, 2020, 11:07:10 PM
Wrong colour? What are you trying to say here?

Question of Sport presenter and team captains.

Why?

Wrong colour I assume and too old
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Bronco on September 13, 2020, 11:23:07 PM
Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 14, 2020, 12:10:13 AM
QoS has been stale for a good few years now so I'd say it's a combination of freshening up and ticking a diversity box for presenter and captains. I'd not die of shock if Sam Quek ends up a captain.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: laoislad on September 14, 2020, 06:41:53 AM
QoS has been stale for a good few years now so I'd say it's a combination of freshening up and ticking a diversity box for presenter and captains. I'd not die of shock if Sam Quek ends up a captain.
Had no idea who you were talking about so I look up Google.Glad I did. Tasty...
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2020, 08:43:28 AM
Was it still "tuffers" and dawson who were captains? They weren't really very funny anyway so it'd be as well get a shake up. Barker was fine - decent enough presenter.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on September 14, 2020, 08:43:39 AM
I don’t mind those two plonkers as captains. Not as good as Parrott and McCoist though.

But if they’re to replace anyone, it should be Barker. She can’t even read the questions.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on September 14, 2020, 09:23:24 AM
Wrong colour? What are you trying to say here?

Question of Sport presenter and team captains.

Why?

Wrong colour I assume and too old
He is saying that they are white and that the BBC have identified this programme as one that requires an overhaul of personnel in order to have a more diverse ethnical representation.

Probably.

Can't stand "Tuffers" and thon arrogant wee p***k who used to scrum half for England.
might start to watch it again.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Taylor on September 14, 2020, 09:27:59 AM
Delighted they are gone.
Brutal show with those 2 on it.

Its either a comedy show or a quiz show - cant be both
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2020, 09:30:14 AM
Wrong colour? What are you trying to say here?

Question of Sport presenter and team captains.

Why?

Wrong colour I assume and too old
He is saying that they are white and that the BBC have identified this programme as one that requires an overhaul of personnel in order to have a more diverse ethnical representation.

Probably.

Can't stand "Tuffers" and thon arrogant wee p***k who used to scrum half for England.
might start to watch it again.

Precisely. No loss. Forgetting diversity etc etc those kind of shows need shake ups every few years and those guys have been on it a long long time too so they're long overdue a change.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 14, 2020, 09:39:19 AM
+1 to all the above answers
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 09:54:55 AM
Delighted they are gone.
Brutal show with those 2 on it.

Its either a comedy show or a quiz show - cant be both

That's the thing about it, its not meant to be a serious quiz show, and for the likes of my wife (who's not into sport at all) will sit and watch it and actually enjoy it..

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on September 14, 2020, 10:16:13 AM
Diversity getting a hard time for a BLM routine they did on BGT/X-FACTOR or whatever the wee girl was watching the other week.

i actually stopped what I was doing to watch it.

https://t.co/QxMUrMPZYn?amp=1 (https://t.co/QxMUrMPZYn?amp=1)


Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on September 14, 2020, 10:47:21 AM
Oh wait, I didn’t think they’d actually axed all three from QoS.

Who’ll be on it now? Dion Dublin, Prince Naseem as captains, and Clare Balding as host? That’s a lot of diversity covered there.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 14, 2020, 10:58:56 AM
QoS has been stale for a good few years now so I'd say it's a combination of freshening up and ticking a diversity box for presenter and captains. I'd not die of shock if Sam Quek ends up a captain.
Had no idea who you were talking about so I look up Google.Glad I did. Tasty...
Big Liverpool fan too.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: laoislad on September 14, 2020, 11:30:20 AM
QoS has been stale for a good few years now so I'd say it's a combination of freshening up and ticking a diversity box for presenter and captains. I'd not die of shock if Sam Quek ends up a captain.
Had no idea who you were talking about so I look up Google.Glad I did. Tasty...
Big Liverpool fan too.
The perfect woman....
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: square_ball on September 17, 2020, 12:45:14 PM
Alex Scott the new presenter of QOS. She must be loaded with the amount of gigs she’s getting.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Kidder81 on September 17, 2020, 12:53:14 PM
Alex Scott the new presenter of QOS. She must be loaded with the amount of gigs she’s getting.

Not a shocker
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on September 17, 2020, 02:18:38 PM
What was the reason given to replace the trio on Sky Sports (Le Tissier, Thompson and t’other one I can’t recall).

And who has replaced them?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: lurganblue on September 17, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
Alex Scott the new presenter of QOS. She must be loaded with the amount of gigs she’s getting.

I see no problem with that. Could be decent

What was the reason given to replace the trio on Sky Sports (Le Tissier, Thompson and t’other one I can’t recall).

And who has replaced them?

That they talked too much sh*te? I am just surprised that Merson survived.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Boycey on September 17, 2020, 03:00:39 PM
Alex Scott the new presenter of QOS. She must be loaded with the amount of gigs she’s getting.

I see no problem with that. Could be decent

What was the reason given to replace the trio on Sky Sports (Le Tissier, Thompson and t’other one I can’t recall).

And who has replaced them?

That they talked too much sh*te? I am just surprised that Merson survived.

Well the fact Merson survived should tell you it wasn't a talent issue! 
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on September 17, 2020, 03:14:27 PM
What was the reason given to replace the trio on Sky Sports (Le Tissier, Thompson and t’other one I can’t recall).

And who has replaced them?
Le Tissier was sacked because he's a Covidiot who promotes far right rallies

The other lads were gotten rid of to hide the reason for Le Tissier being sacked

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: square_ball on September 17, 2020, 03:34:49 PM
Alex Scott the new presenter of QOS. She must be loaded with the amount of gigs she’s getting.

I see no problem with that. Could be decent

Possibly though I hope they don’t go down the ‘banter’ route and keep it as a sports quiz show. There was a sports quiz show Holly Willoughby hosted on ITV and the ‘bantz’ was absolutely cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on September 17, 2020, 03:42:07 PM
Alex Scott the new presenter of QOS. She must be loaded with the amount of gigs she’s getting.

I see no problem with that. Could be decent

Possibly though I hope they don’t go down the ‘banter’ route and keep it as a sports quiz show. There was a sports quiz show Holly Willoughby hosted on ITV and the ‘bantz’ was absolutely cringeworthy.
Couldn't have been any worse than Soccer Saturday
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on September 17, 2020, 04:13:31 PM
Alex Scott the new presenter of QOS. She must be loaded with the amount of gigs she’s getting.

I see no problem with that. Could be decent

Possibly though I hope they don’t go down the ‘banter’ route and keep it as a sports quiz show. There was a sports quiz show Holly Willoughby hosted on ITV and the ‘bantz’ was absolutely cringeworthy.

The reason it’s kept going strong is because they’ve kept the same sort of format. Deviate from that and it’s goodnight, especially with new host/captains.

But I have a feeling the new format will be really bland.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Taylor on September 17, 2020, 04:43:35 PM
I had stopped watching it because the 'banter' element became unbearable.

Tuffnall & Dawson were insufferable tossers.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 17, 2020, 08:16:48 PM
What was the reason given to replace the trio on Sky Sports (Le Tissier, Thompson and t’other one I can’t recall).

And who has replaced them?
Le Tissier was sacked because he's a Covidiot who promotes far right rallies

The other lads were gotten rid of to hide the reason for Le Tissier being sacked

Who's in their stead?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on September 17, 2020, 08:18:15 PM
What was the reason given to replace the trio on Sky Sports (Le Tissier, Thompson and t’other one I can’t recall).

And who has replaced them?
Le Tissier was sacked because he's a Covidiot who promotes far right rallies

The other lads were gotten rid of to hide the reason for Le Tissier being sacked

Who's in their stead?
I think Tony Pulis and Clinton Morrison were on it last week, only glanced at it for a minute or two
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on September 17, 2020, 08:24:09 PM
I had stopped watching it because the 'banter' element became unbearable.

Tuffnall & Dawson were insufferable tossers.
Weren't Dawson and Austin Healey fierce troublemakers on the 2001 Lions tour when they didn't get picked for the test team, they badly undermined the spirit in the camp if I remember rightly

Dawson was a great player though, Healey not so much

Both would eat themselves if made of chocolate or any mildly pleasant edible substance

Healey was one of the original, self styled "Archbishops of Banterbury" who were about as funny as a pandemic
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Kidder81 on September 17, 2020, 08:31:29 PM
What was the reason given to replace the trio on Sky Sports (Le Tissier, Thompson and t’other one I can’t recall).

And who has replaced them?
Le Tissier was sacked because he's a Covidiot who promotes far right rallies

The other lads were gotten rid of to hide the reason for Le Tissier being sacked

Who's in their stead?
I think Tony Pulis and Clinton Morrison were on it last week, only glanced at it for a minute or two

And Glen Johnson
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Roesider on September 17, 2020, 08:43:35 PM
What was the reason given to replace the trio on Sky Sports (Le Tissier, Thompson and t’other one I can’t recall).

And who has replaced them?
Le Tissier was sacked because he's a Covidiot who promotes far right rallies

The other lads were gotten rid of to hide the reason for Le Tissier being sacked

Who's in their stead?
I think Tony Pulis and Clinton Morrison were on it last week, only glanced at it for a minute or two

And Glen Johnson

Glen of B&Q fame?

That's the type of brainiac you want on a quiz show.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 17, 2020, 09:50:42 PM
I had stopped watching it because the 'banter' element became unbearable.

Tuffnall & Dawson were insufferable tossers.
Weren't Dawson and Austin Healey fierce troublemakers on the 2001 Lions tour when they didn't get picked for the test team, they badly undermined the spirit in the camp if I remember rightly

Dawson was a great player though, Healey not so much

Both would eat themselves if made of chocolate or any mildly pleasant edible substance

Healey was one of the original, self styled "Archbishops of Banterbury" who were about as funny as a pandemic
The issue with Dawson was he was publishing a Lions diary in a British newspaper and was revealing issues in camp etc. The camp he was in. Mad when you think about it.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Taylor on September 18, 2020, 07:57:17 AM
I had stopped watching it because the 'banter' element became unbearable.

Tuffnall & Dawson were insufferable tossers.
Weren't Dawson and Austin Healey fierce troublemakers on the 2001 Lions tour when they didn't get picked for the test team, they badly undermined the spirit in the camp if I remember rightly

Dawson was a great player though, Healey not so much

Both would eat themselves if made of chocolate or any mildly pleasant edible substance

Healey was one of the original, self styled "Archbishops of Banterbury" who were about as funny as a pandemic

Ah Austin Healey - now there was a complete knobend.
English rugby were blessed with great players and even greater twats from that era
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2020, 09:26:17 AM
Healey is a bigger twat than Dawson and that is saying something. The arrogance just oozes out of Dawson.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2020, 08:54:53 PM
Healey is a bigger twat than Dawson and that is saying something. The arrogance just oozes out of Dawson.
It is a rugby trope that the 9 on every team is an annoying wee tosser. England seem to have had more than their fair share. A lot of what Healey does is for pure windup value- the Welsh hate him and he revels in it.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on September 18, 2020, 10:57:32 PM
The really shocking thing here is the number of grown men supposedly with a brain on this forum who have outed themselves as AQoS watchers. Absolute drivel

As for twats whinging about Alex Scott getting it (Kidder appears to have a problem with black people getting jobs), she's an accomplished pro athlete, has a degree in sports journalism and has on camera experience. She's basically the ideal candidate for any non racist bellends.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: square_ball on September 18, 2020, 11:30:16 PM
The really shocking thing here is the number of grown men supposedly with a brain on this forum who have outed themselves as AQoS watchers. Absolute drivel


People who post on a sports forum watch a sports quiz on tv? Well I for one am in complete shock about that one.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Capt Pat on September 19, 2020, 12:28:32 AM
The really shocking thing here is the number of grown men supposedly with a brain on this forum who have outed themselves as AQoS watchers. Absolute drivel

As for twats whinging about Alex Scott getting it (Kidder appears to have a problem with black people getting jobs), she's an accomplished pro athlete, has a degree in sports journalism and has on camera experience. She's basically the ideal candidate for any non racist bellends.

Get out of it Gallsman it is a great show. It has been on for donkeys years and will be on for many more. It is great tv.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Kidder81 on September 19, 2020, 12:02:25 PM
The really shocking thing here is the number of grown men supposedly with a brain on this forum who have outed themselves as AQoS watchers. Absolute drivel

As for twats whinging about Alex Scott getting it (Kidder appears to have a problem with black people getting jobs), she's an accomplished pro athlete, has a degree in sports journalism and has on camera experience. She's basically the ideal candidate for any non racist bellends.

A decree in sports journalism ? Wow, I am impressed
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on September 19, 2020, 01:45:24 PM
The really shocking thing here is the number of grown men supposedly with a brain on this forum who have outed themselves as AQoS watchers. Absolute drivel

As for twats whinging about Alex Scott getting it (Kidder appears to have a problem with black people getting jobs), she's an accomplished pro athlete, has a degree in sports journalism and has on camera experience. She's basically the ideal candidate for any non racist bellends.

Get out of it Gallsman it is a great show. It has been on for donkeys years and will be on for many more. It is great tv.

It was good years ago. It's long since become lowest common denominator muck for twats who find the likes of "Tuffers" in any way witty or funny and mistake people being morons for "bantz".
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on September 19, 2020, 02:32:34 PM
I don’t mind QoS, but the BBC are clearly playing their “we’re not racist” card on this.

I’m not particularly keen on Sue Barker, but the way her and the two captains were dropped was a bit shit. I could understand if they regularly changed host/captains every 3/4 years, or their contract ran out, or they got an offer from Sky etc. But they’ve obviously recently gone back to recording the show (as they’re spaced out in the studio - no, not in that way), and are during the series. So why the change now?

If the BBC are so diversitifiable, or whatever the word is, why didn’t they do it a couple of years ago?

Haven’t heard who the new captains are, but I’m assuming at least one of them will be non-white, otherwise why bother?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on September 20, 2020, 02:06:48 AM
You guys watch far too much English tv.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: An Astrail on September 21, 2020, 01:17:26 AM
Never the same after Willie Carson left
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: MoChara on September 28, 2020, 03:18:30 PM
https://gript.ie/ming-someone-hacked-my-account-and-looked-for-nudey-pictures/

Is Ming the next to face the chop ?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: five points on September 28, 2020, 03:47:13 PM
https://gript.ie/ming-someone-hacked-my-account-and-looked-for-nudey-pictures/

Is Ming the next to face the chop ?

f**k away off using gript as a source.

What precisely is wrong with the story?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2020, 11:16:38 AM
https://gript.ie/ming-someone-hacked-my-account-and-looked-for-nudey-pictures/

Is Ming the next to face the chop ?

f**k away off using gript as a source.

lol I've genuinely no idea what Gript is.

It did happen though, apparently he was hacked  ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on September 29, 2020, 01:37:31 PM
https://gript.ie/ming-someone-hacked-my-account-and-looked-for-nudey-pictures/

Is Ming the next to face the chop ?

f**k away off using gript as a source.

lol I've genuinely no idea what Gript is.

It did happen though, apparently he was hacked  ;D
Gript is an Irish clone of US far right fake news propaganda sites, it should be trusted on precisely nothing

It's funded by people with a direct lineage to theocratic fascists Youth Defence

Anybody in doubt about what it is should have a listen to this podcast in which host William Campbell makes mince meat of the guy who runs Gript, John McGuirk

Campbell is exceedingly well researched and deserves a bigger platform, he's one of the few people in Irish media who can really pin down and expose slippery con artist shysters like McGuirk

https://blog.hereshow.ie/2019/10/heres-how-95-conservative-comment/
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2020, 02:29:42 PM
https://gript.ie/ming-someone-hacked-my-account-and-looked-for-nudey-pictures/

Is Ming the next to face the chop ?

f**k away off using gript as a source.

lol I've genuinely no idea what Gript is.

It did happen though, apparently he was hacked  ;D
Gript is an Irish clone of US far right fake news propaganda sites, it should be trusted on precisely nothing

It's funded by people with a direct lineage to theocratic fascists Youth Defence

Anybody in doubt about what it is should have a listen to this podcast in which host William Campbell makes mince meat of the guy who runs Gript, John McGuirk

Campbell is exceedingly well researched and deserves a bigger platform, he's one of the few people in Irish media who can really pin down and expose slippery con artist shysters like McGuirk

https://blog.hereshow.ie/2019/10/heres-how-95-conservative-comment/

Grand I'll give it a listen
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on September 29, 2020, 02:50:56 PM
As regards Ming it's fairly obvious what happened the other night

He's had the horn for Saoirse McHugh for a while

I don't think he's a terrible guy but the novelty has well and truly worn off at this stage, he's a rhetoric merchant and a bit of a gombeener who portrays himself as an outsider while doing feck all of substance to change things, and I'm not really sure what function he fulfils as a politician at this stage except garnering some celebrity for himself, I'm sure his constituents could do better than him
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Roesider on September 29, 2020, 03:21:25 PM
As regards Ming it's fairly obvious what happened the other night

He's had the horn for Saoirse McHugh for a while

I don't think he's a terrible guy but the novelty has well and truly worn off at this stage, he's a rhetoric merchant and a bit of a gombeener who portrays himself as an outsider while doing feck all of substance to change things, and I'm not really sure what function he fulfils as a politician at this stage except garnering some celebrity for himself, I'm sure his constituents could do better than him
`

We've seen this before where someone claims they have been hacked. At 2am.

Is there truth to the skinnydipping?

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: MoChara on September 30, 2020, 10:10:31 AM
As regards Ming it's fairly obvious what happened the other night

He's had the horn for Saoirse McHugh for a while

I don't think he's a terrible guy but the novelty has well and truly worn off at this stage, he's a rhetoric merchant and a bit of a gombeener who portrays himself as an outsider while doing feck all of substance to change things, and I'm not really sure what function he fulfils as a politician at this stage except garnering some celebrity for himself, I'm sure his constituents could do better than him
`

 
We've seen this before where someone claims they have been hacked. At 2am.

Is there truth to the skinnydipping?

Aye her and her husband went for a dip at her local beach in the nude, was in the guardian I think, you can see an arse cheek if your interested lol
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Roesider on September 30, 2020, 10:25:21 AM
As regards Ming it's fairly obvious what happened the other night

He's had the horn for Saoirse McHugh for a while

I don't think he's a terrible guy but the novelty has well and truly worn off at this stage, he's a rhetoric merchant and a bit of a gombeener who portrays himself as an outsider while doing feck all of substance to change things, and I'm not really sure what function he fulfils as a politician at this stage except garnering some celebrity for himself, I'm sure his constituents could do better than him
`

Aye her and her husband went for a dip at her local beach in the nude, was in the guardian I think, you can see an arse cheek if your interested lol
We've seen this before where someone claims they have been hacked. At 2am.

Is there truth to the skinnydipping?

So it wasn't a random google at 2am. it's not something you could admit to if you were guilty.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on October 21, 2020, 11:08:47 PM
Chris Pratt.

Because he didn't say who he's voting for, so hes automatically a fascist... or something.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on October 30, 2020, 01:47:20 PM
Bret Favre and Jack Nicklaus for endorsing DJT
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: LCohen on October 30, 2020, 01:52:41 PM
I think we need to agree a definition of cancelled
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Capt Pat on December 06, 2020, 07:16:24 PM
Roald Dahl. He said things that make it look like he didn't like the jews.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 12:19:37 AM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 09, 2021, 08:11:05 AM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391
Why not, Sid?
The sole object of the exercise was to offend te religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and causing extreme offence to the general public for no apparent reason isn't. IMO, enough reason to say Mac Grianna's "skit" shouldn't have been banned. He's a lucky hoor he doesn't live in Paris or he might have suffered the same fate as the Charlie Hebdo editor did when he decided t give the two fingers tp fundamentalist Muslims.
Them bastards are mad enough already without any eejit trying to stir them up.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: trailer on January 09, 2021, 09:37:24 AM
Bret Favre and Jack Nicklaus for endorsing DJT

Nicklaus was a w**ker long before he endorsed Trump, that just confirmed it.
As an aside Trump is everything that is wrong with Golf.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 10:48:05 AM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391
Why not, Sid?
The sole object of the exercise was to offend te religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and causing extreme offence to the general public for no apparent reason isn't. IMO, enough reason to say Mac Grianna's "skit" shouldn't have been banned. He's a lucky hoor he doesn't live in Paris or he might have suffered the same fate as the Charlie Hebdo editor did when he decided t give the two fingers tp fundamentalist Muslims.
Them bastards are mad enough already without any eejit trying to stir them up.
Remember 2015 when David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute were all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech"?

Why not now?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 11:00:13 AM
Bret Favre and Jack Nicklaus for endorsing DJT

Nicklaus was a w**ker long before he endorsed Trump, that just confirmed it.
As an aside Trump is everything that is wrong with Golf.
A few weeks back when Peter Alliss died I was watching his sublime commentary on Tiger Woods' chip in at the 16th at Augusta in 2005

I remembered that contrary to popular legend, that shot did not prove decisive in the tournament and that Woods lost the two shot lead he had after the 16th and was taken to a play off

The play off was against Chris DiMarco - Woods won the play off

DiMarco wasn't heard of much after that and I decided to do a quick Netscape about what he was up to now

I probably shouldn't have gone down that rabbit hole - because after clicking into Chris's Twitter, it quickly became apparent that he has gone down a very, very deep rabbit hole of his own, a far right one, one so far right that if he played the 12th at Augusta now, his tee shot would end up on the 13th fairway

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 09, 2021, 11:47:57 AM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391
Why not, Sid?
The sole object of the exercise was to offend te religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and causing extreme offence to the general public for no apparent reason isn't. IMO, enough reason to say Mac Grianna's "skit" shouldn't have been banned. He's a lucky hoor he doesn't live in Paris or he might have suffered the same fate as the Charlie Hebdo editor did when he decided t give the two fingers tp fundamentalist Muslims.
Them bastards are mad enough already without any eejit trying to stir them up.
Remember 2015 when David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute were all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech"?

Why not now?

If I were to walk up to the local bully and tell him he's a thundering bollox, the least I could expect is a belt on the nose or a kick up the hole. Telling him it's my right to offend anyone I want to will probably do no good.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391
Why not, Sid?
The sole object of the exercise was to offend te religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and causing extreme offence to the general public for no apparent reason isn't. IMO, enough reason to say Mac Grianna's "skit" shouldn't have been banned. He's a lucky hoor he doesn't live in Paris or he might have suffered the same fate as the Charlie Hebdo editor did when he decided t give the two fingers tp fundamentalist Muslims.
Them bastards are mad enough already without any eejit trying to stir them up.
Remember 2015 when David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute were all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech"?

Why not now?

If I were to walk up to the local bully and tell him he's a thundering bollox, the least I could expect is a belt on the nose or a kick up the hole. Telling him it's my right to offend anyone I want to will probably do no good.
Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?

The George Hook logic

Why were David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech" in 2015?

And why are they the exact opposite now?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on January 09, 2021, 02:35:57 PM
Bret Favre and Jack Nicklaus for endorsing DJT

Nicklaus was a w**ker long before he endorsed Trump, that just confirmed it.
As an aside Trump is everything that is wrong with Golf.
his charities have raised more than $125m and their charity also have children’s hospitals in the US and have provided health care to kids in 120 countries internationally, nothing compared to what your doing do I’m sure .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 09, 2021, 03:16:21 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391
Why not, Sid?
The sole object of the exercise was to offend te religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and causing extreme offence to the general public for no apparent reason isn't. IMO, enough reason to say Mac Grianna's "skit" shouldn't have been banned. He's a lucky hoor he doesn't live in Paris or he might have suffered the same fate as the Charlie Hebdo editor did when he decided t give the two fingers tp fundamentalist Muslims.
Them bastards are mad enough already without any eejit trying to stir them up.
Remember 2015 when David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute were all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech"?

Why not now?

If I were to walk up to the local bully and tell him he's a thundering bollox, the least I could expect is a belt on the nose or a kick up the hole. Telling him it's my right to offend anyone I want to will probably do no good.
Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?

The George Hook logic

Why were David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech" in 2015?

And why are they the exact opposite now?
With due respect, I fail to see any connection, logical or otherwise, between Ms. Riedo setting out to walk home and Fungus Mac Grianna deliberately intending to cause widespread to others. The answer to your question is obvious- she certainly didn't expect the fate that awaited her. Mac Grianna knew full well that he was going to offend others.
Dunno nothing about #jesuischarlie and googling for it didn;t enlighten me very much.
PS I have no problem with  the  skit presenters exercising their right to free speech but, by that logic, I see no reason why those who were offended should not exercise their right to object strongly
 also.
The problem about the exercise of freedom of speech is that in theory it's fine but that isn't always the case in practice.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on January 09, 2021, 03:23:43 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on January 09, 2021, 03:48:15 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.

Horseshit. One is satire, one is flat out hate speech.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on January 09, 2021, 03:55:02 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.

Horseshit. One is satire, one is flat out hate speech.
i don’t think devout Catholics will be be heading anyone over the insults though .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 03:59:52 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.
I would, and rightly so

Motive is everything, when members of the Republican party go on about Islam they do it to foment generalised race hatred, they are a Nazi party

I presume you boycott Father Ted given it makes fun of religion

I presume you were also up in arms about what Stephen Fry said about God to Gay Byrne a few years back

It's not that long since there Holy Josephines in the Late Late Show audience talking about God's Law trying to defend to the covering up of paedophilia in the Catholic Church

Mad that "Christians" are taking this as a personal insult given Jesus was a Jew

There are so many holes in the right-wing "free speech" grift it's hilarious

Almost like none of them believe a single word they say
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 04:23:12 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391
Why not, Sid?
The sole object of the exercise was to offend te religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and causing extreme offence to the general public for no apparent reason isn't. IMO, enough reason to say Mac Grianna's "skit" shouldn't have been banned. He's a lucky hoor he doesn't live in Paris or he might have suffered the same fate as the Charlie Hebdo editor did when he decided t give the two fingers tp fundamentalist Muslims.
Them bastards are mad enough already without any eejit trying to stir them up.
Remember 2015 when David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute were all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech"?

Why not now?

If I were to walk up to the local bully and tell him he's a thundering bollox, the least I could expect is a belt on the nose or a kick up the hole. Telling him it's my right to offend anyone I want to will probably do no good.
Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?

The George Hook logic

Why were David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech" in 2015?

And why are they the exact opposite now?
With due respect, I fail to see any connection, logical or otherwise, between Ms. Riedo setting out to walk home and Fungus Mac Grianna deliberately intending to cause widespread to others. The answer to your question is obvious- she certainly didn't expect the fate that awaited her. Mac Grianna knew full well that he was going to offend others.
Dunno nothing about #jesuischarlie and googling for it didn;t enlighten me very much.
PS I have no problem with  the  skit presenters exercising their right to free speech but, by that logic, I see no reason why those who were offended should not exercise their right to object strongly
 also.
The problem about the exercise of freedom of speech is that in theory it's fine but that isn't always the case in practice.

I don't see any connection between the murder of Manuela Riedo and an RTE sketch either - but then I don't see how your previous post was anything to do with the issue at hand

It seemed like an answer that had been dropped in mistakenly from another thread or something, it didn't make sense - nevertheless I ran with the logic of what you said - for some reason you created a hypothetical situation where a victim stood up to a bully and got assaulted - you seemed to blame the hypothetical victim

I referenced the murder of Manuela Riedo because it seemed relevant to the logic of your previous answer, which seemed to be that victims of assault deserve it - or that people have a responsibility to make sure they are not victims of a crime - they don't - it's the potential criminal's responsibility to make sure they don't commit a crime

Again, not sure any of that has to do with this sketch, but anyways

The sketch was done to offend others

So what

Offence is part of comedy

The issue arises when deliberate offence turns into hate speech, and I'm not sure how satirising God as a rapist is hate speech

The reason I've brought this up is that the self-styled Catholic right and their media "representatives" like the I Own Her Institute (I call them such as an insult designed to offend) have spent years as self-styled "free speech" grifters

This pro-"free speech" grifting seems to include defences of every sort of generalised hate speech and the right to make such

Six years ago they were defending the right of Charlie Hebdo to publish stuff that many Muslims in France saw as generalised race/sectarian hatred - I haven't read enough of Charlie Hebdo nor am I fluent enough in French to say whether that is indeed the case

But I know after the massacre of Charlie Hebdo staff, there were huge marches to defend the right of Charlie Hebdo and other to publish material many saw as offensive, thoroughly supported by the free speech grifters like I Own Her

#jesuischarlie hashtags were everywhere

Yet now The I Own Her Institute are all over this RTE sketch calling it blasphemous, a disgrace and shrieking that it be censored - this does not compute compared to their previous utterings

It seems like they have one rule for hate speech against everybody else and a different rule entirely for comedy sketches which ridicule anything close to their hearts
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rudi on January 09, 2021, 06:18:52 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.

Horseshit. One is satire, one is flat out hate speech.
i don’t think devout Catholics will be be heading anyone over the insults though .

Satire is meant to be funny, this was horseshit. 10 year olds up watching the countdown to new positive new year, watching that pure and utter scutter. Thankfully I was on Netflix.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 06:25:26 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.

Horseshit. One is satire, one is flat out hate speech.
i don’t think devout Catholics will be be heading anyone over the insults though .

Satire is meant to be funny, this was horseshit. 10 year olds up watching the countdown to new positive new year, watching that pure and utter scutter. Thankfully I was on Netflix.
Whether you found it funny or not is totally and utterly irrelevant

I don't find Mrs. Brown's Boys remotely funny but I'm not howling for it to be censored
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rossfan on January 09, 2021, 06:30:42 PM
RTÉ should be apologising for 60 years of absolute disasters of "comedies".
I wonder can the Mods ban Sid as I'm fed up seeing pages full of blocked posts?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 09, 2021, 07:51:46 PM
RTÉ should be apologising for 60 years of absolute disasters of "comedies".
I wonder can the Mods ban Sid as I'm fed up seeing pages full of blocked posts?
???
What has Sid done to upset you? He may be exercising his constitutional right to free speech even oif you don't agree with him, or in my case, I don't know wtf he is trying to say.
Defend Democracy!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on January 09, 2021, 07:59:25 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.

Horseshit. One is satire, one is flat out hate speech.
i don’t think devout Catholics will be be heading anyone over the insults though .

Too busy participating in or being complicit in the cover up of child rape I expect.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rossfan on January 09, 2021, 08:15:36 PM
RTÉ should be apologising for 60 years of absolute disasters of "comedies".
I wonder can the Mods ban Sid as I'm fed up seeing pages full of blocked posts?
???
What has Sid done to upset you? He may be exercising his constitutional right to free speech even oif you don't agree with him, or in my case, I don't know wtf he is trying to say.
Defend Democracy!
I have him and Angelo blocked so there are often full pages of posts I don't see ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rudi on January 09, 2021, 08:19:00 PM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.

Horseshit. One is satire, one is flat out hate speech.
i don’t think devout Catholics will be be heading anyone over the insults though .

Too busy participating in or being complicit in the cover up of child rape I expect.

Bollix talk, not all practising Catholics are bad. Practically every institution the world over have bad eggs, who fuk things up for the rest. Lazy narrative from a lapsed catholic.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 08:28:58 PM
It's amazing how certain posters only see the "lazy narratives" they want to see, while engaging in copious lazy or bad faith narrativising themselves
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rudi on January 09, 2021, 08:32:08 PM
It's amazing how certain posters only see the "lazy narratives" they want to see, while engaging in copious lazy or bad faith narrativising themselves

You'd know all about it, the irony of your contributions here.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 08:33:54 PM
It's amazing how certain posters only see the "lazy narratives" they want to see, while engaging in copious lazy or bad faith narrativising themselves

You'd know all about it, the irony of your contributions here.
Self awareness is not your strong point, nor is awareness of anything else
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: joemamas on January 09, 2021, 08:36:35 PM
RTÉ should be apologising for 60 years of absolute disasters of "comedies".
I wonder can the Mods ban Sid as I'm fed up seeing pages full of blocked posts?
???
What has Sid done to upset you? He may be exercising his constitutional right to free speech even oif you don't agree with him, or in my case, I don't know wtf he is trying to say.
Defend Democracy!
I have him and Angelo blocked so there are often full pages of posts I don't see ;D

Likewise, just way too much drivel. how anyone can post four of five comments in a row mesmerizes me
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 09, 2021, 09:52:42 PM
It's amazing how certain posters only see the "lazy narratives" they want to see, while engaging in copious lazy or bad faith narrativising themselves

You accused a fellow poster of being a loyalist terrorist nazi sympathizer because of his name a few months ago. You've well and truly jumped the shark. 
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 09, 2021, 10:47:48 PM
It's amazing how certain posters only see the "lazy narratives" they want to see, while engaging in copious lazy or bad faith narrativising themselves

You accused a fellow poster of being a loyalist terrorist nazi sympathizer because of his name a few months ago. You've well and truly jumped the shark.
Untrue if it's the same poster you're thinking of

Some lads have no sense of humour around here








Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 10, 2021, 01:43:34 AM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391
Why not, Sid?
The sole object of the exercise was to offend te religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and causing extreme offence to the general public for no apparent reason isn't. IMO, enough reason to say Mac Grianna's "skit" shouldn't have been banned. He's a lucky hoor he doesn't live in Paris or he might have suffered the same fate as the Charlie Hebdo editor did when he decided t give the two fingers tp fundamentalist Muslims.
Them bastards are mad enough already without any eejit trying to stir them up.
Remember 2015 when David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute were all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech"?

Why not now?

If I were to walk up to the local bully and tell him he's a thundering bollox, the least I could expect is a belt on the nose or a kick up the hole. Telling him it's my right to offend anyone I want to will probably do no good.
Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?

The George Hook logic

Why were David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech" in 2015?

And why are they the exact opposite now?
With due respect, I fail to see any connection, logical or otherwise, between Ms. Riedo setting out to walk home and Fungus Mac Grianna deliberately intending to cause widespread to others. The answer to your question is obvious- she certainly didn't expect the fate that awaited her. Mac Grianna knew full well that he was going to offend others.
Dunno nothing about #jesuischarlie and googling for it didn;t enlighten me very much.
PS I have no problem with  the  skit presenters exercising their right to free speech but, by that logic, I see no reason why those who were offended should not exercise their right to object strongly
 also.
The problem about the exercise of freedom of speech is that in theory it's fine but that isn't always the case in practice.

I don't see any connection between the murder of Manuela Riedo and an RTE sketch either - but then I don't see how your previous post was anything to do with the issue at hand

It seemed like an answer that had been dropped in mistakenly from another thread or something, it didn't make sense - nevertheless I ran with the logic of what you said - for some reason you created a hypothetical situation where a victim stood up to a bully and got assaulted - you seemed to blame the hypothetical victim

I referenced the murder of Manuela Riedo because it seemed relevant to the logic of your previous answer, which seemed to be that victims of assault deserve it - or that people have a responsibility to make sure they are not victims of a crime - they don't - it's the potential criminal's responsibility to make sure they don't commit a crime

Again, not sure any of that has to do with this sketch, but anyways

The sketch was done to offend others

So what

Offence is part of comedy

The issue arises when deliberate offence turns into hate speech, and I'm not sure how satirising God as a rapist is hate speech

The reason I've brought this up is that the self-styled Catholic right and their media "representatives" like the I Own Her Institute (I call them such as an insult designed to offend) have spent years as self-styled "free speech" grifters

This pro-"free speech" grifting seems to include defences of every sort of generalised hate speech and the right to make such

Six years ago they were defending the right of Charlie Hebdo to publish stuff that many Muslims in France saw as generalised race/sectarian hatred - I haven't read enough of Charlie Hebdo nor am I fluent enough in French to say whether that is indeed the case

But I know after the massacre of Charlie Hebdo staff, there were huge marches to defend the right of Charlie Hebdo and other to publish material many saw as offensive, thoroughly supported by the free speech grifters like I Own Her

#jesuischarlie hashtags were everywhere

Yet now The I Own Her Institute are all over this RTE sketch calling it blasphemous, a disgrace and shrieking that it be censored - this does not compute compared to their previous utterings

It seems like they have one rule for hate speech against everybody else and a different rule entirely for comedy sketches which ridicule anything close to their hearts
Sid, I just read the first sentence in your reply and I gave up all hope of having a sensible discussion with you.
This is what I am referring to:
“I don't see any connection between the murder of Manuela Riedo and an RTE sketch either - but then I don't see how your previous post was anything to do with the issue at hand.”
 
Then, in the one I am quoting  now you came up with this:
 
“Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?
 
If you can’t see a contradiction here, you are gone past redemption as I know it.
I know you are a Dublin supporter and logic rests lightly on the shoulders of those who support the Blues but howe you can see a connection between the rape and murder of a defenceless young woman and an unfunny and to many offensive poorly-writtten script from RTE beats me.
Bridget and Eamon is a work of art when compared to this dollop of horseshit and talking about the right of anyone to exercising freedom of speech at taxpayers’ money is a travesty of justice.
So David Quinn and the Iona Institute are shrieking about something or other. So what? Them hoors have turned shrieking into an art form. But, by all accounts, RTE have received a huge number of complaints from the general public and have reacted accordingly.
I really can't understand what you're complaining about.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on January 10, 2021, 01:57:43 AM
Should never have apologised

#jesuisRTE
#jesuistherighttocallgodarapist


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/archbishop-denounces-rt%C3%A9-nye-show-s-satirical-report-accusing-god-of-rape-1.4448391


Bollocks. If Trump or anyone in the GOP said this about Islam you'd be all over it like a rash.

Horseshit. One is satire, one is flat out hate speech.
i don’t think devout Catholics will be be heading anyone over the insults though .

Too busy participating in or being complicit in the cover up of child rape I expect.

Bollix talk, not all practising Catholics are bad. Practically every institution the world over have bad eggs, who fuk things up for the rest. Lazy narrative from a lapsed catholic.

Of course "not all practising Catholics are bad" ffs. I would venture further than your oh so ringing endorsement as to say 99.99999999% of practicing Catholics are good.

The point was to completely ridicule his introduction of "Catholics won't behead people" to a discussion about satirising religion, in this case Catholicism and Islam. Maybe I'll go for a less subtle approach in future and draw it in crayon for you.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2021, 03:42:17 AM
It's amazing how certain posters only see the "lazy narratives" they want to see, while engaging in copious lazy or bad faith narrativising themselves

You accused a fellow poster of being a loyalist terrorist nazi sympathizer because of his name a few months ago. You've well and truly jumped the shark.
Untrue if it's the same poster you're thinking of

Some lads have no sense of humour around here

Let's take a look shall we?


Democracy is on a knife edge. Unhinged Trump.. Media trying to be fair and it ain’t working.
The media have enabled Trump for his whole life

They are enablers of fascism with constant false balance, false equivalence and deference

They are biased in favour of ratings even if it means they enable fascism

There will be many books written about the shameful failure of media in the face of Trump and his fascism over the last five years

No matter how many times you say Trump is a fascist, it won't make it true.

Has Biden denounced the Antifa terrorists yet? Or is he still telling people to bail them out? I mean, not even Trump said anything like that.
Some people said that about Hitler in the 1930s
'
We are living through equally dangerous times, frankly anybody who isn't invoking the historical spectre of Hitler as regards Trump isn't paying attention at all

Trump's own defence secretary invoked comparisons to the Nazis about him

I hope you can sleep, actually I hope you can't - I wouldn't if I was so shamelessly on the wrong side of history like you, but I suppose in your case the shamelessness takes care of the sleeping

Another NI Catholic who rejects the lessons of their own their Irish history and then some

People like you were the natural allies of the Glennane Gang and the likes

Wise the f**k up Sid - coming out with that shite
I see no reason to spare feelings

What I wrote is entirely legitimate opinion and believe me, I would that tell that person the exact same thing to their face

The only confusion I have is what the user name "Red Hand 88" refers to

Given this is a GAA forum I would have assumed it referred to Tyrone and perhaps the year of birth of that poster or maybe significant year in their lives

But perhaps I was mistaken in that

Given the actual views of that poster one would have to say it's not impossible that "Red Hand 88" may refer to the Red Hand Defenders and "Heil Hitler"

The poster's views are typical of the sort you would expect from people who believe in such stuff

Who knows
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 10, 2021, 12:58:11 PM
What I wrote was spot on there

Exactly which part do you have a problem with

Explain why
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 10, 2021, 01:32:15 PM

Sid, I just read the first sentence in your reply and I gave up all hope of having a sensible discussion with you.
This is what I am referring to:
“I don't see any connection between the murder of Manuela Riedo and an RTE sketch either - but then I don't see how your previous post was anything to do with the issue at hand.”
 
Then, in the one I am quoting  now you came up with this:
 
“Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?
 
If you can’t see a contradiction here, you are gone past redemption as I know it.
I know you are a Dublin supporter and logic rests lightly on the shoulders of those who support the Blues but howe you can see a connection between the rape and murder of a defenceless young woman and an unfunny and to many offensive poorly-writtten script from RTE beats me.
Bridget and Eamon is a work of art when compared to this dollop of horseshit and talking about the right of anyone to exercising freedom of speech at taxpayers’ money is a travesty of justice.
So David Quinn and the Iona Institute are shrieking about something or other. So what? Them hoors have turned shrieking into an art form. But, by all accounts, RTE have received a huge number of complaints from the general public and have reacted accordingly.
I really can't understand what you're complaining about.

I don't see a connection between Manuela Riedo's murder and the RTE sketch and already said so - so why are you saying I do?

This was the question I orginally asked you


Remember 2015 when David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute were all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech"?

Why not now?

You responded with

If I were to walk up to the local bully and tell him he's a thundering bollox, the least I could expect is a belt on the nose or a kick up the hole. Telling him it's my right to offend anyone I want to will probably do no good.

But this reply made zero sense - it was a bizarre tangent - and didn't answer my question at all

Nevertheless - this bizarre tangent showed some troubling opinions on your part - you created a hypothetical scenario which showcased George Hook style victim blaming tendencies

Unprompted, seemingly from nowhere, you appeared to state that victims of assault bear some responsibility if they are assaulted - but they don't

That's why I referenced Manuela Riedo - because if one is to follow this bizarre George Hook-esque logic, one could hold that Manuela Riedo bore some responsibility for being attacked and murdered - but obviously she didn't

Anyway back to the sketch - which is what I thought we were supposed be talking about before you took us off on that tangent

I thought the sketch was both funny and well observed - it satirised religious belief about the so called "Immaculate Conception" - where Mary was impregnated with the zygote of the son of God, through no wish of her own - and compared it against current norms, as well as the #metoo movement

It was designed to offend religious sensibilities, to offend a belief, which is absolutely fair game - Father Ted did the same thing, and we all love Father Ted

I mean, in the same way, one could satirise holy communion as cannibalism - actually one doesn't have to - according to Catholic teaching itself, holy communion as given out at mass is cannibalism - as you're supposed to be eating the actual body of Christ

According to Catholic teaching itself, at mass the priest is supposed to be drinking the actual blood of Christ - so isn't this vampirism? Yes? That's what drinking the actual blood of others is

You didn't think the sketch was funny - so what - that's not a basis for an apology

The point is - why should RTE or Aengus MacGrianna apologise for what was a legitimate piece of satire?

The self proclaimed Catholic religious right have styled themselves as so called "free speech warriors" - up to and including apologism for and outright defences of many things most reasonable people would consider hate speech - they seem to be just fine with abhorrent, extreme right-wing politics worldwide

Yet now they're up in arms over this sketch - which shows them up as total and utter hypocrites who do not believe a word they previously said

It shows them up as holding moronic opinions - they think it's fine to utter hate speech against others - but it's apparently off limits to legitimately satirise the Catholic right's religious beliefs?

These are not legitimate opinions - they are moronic ones and deserve to be torn apart

This sketch wasn't hate speech - it was satire of actual religious teaching, satire of a legend from the bible

I don't see anything remotely wrong with that

Stand up comedian Kevin Bridges has based a sketch around the same thing satirised in the RTE sketch - and very funny it is too - in my opinion of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9B9UHlg3ig













Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on January 10, 2021, 02:38:43 PM
Where are the mods?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2021, 03:10:06 PM
They’re gone it seems. I don’t think this is moderated any more.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 10, 2021, 06:16:37 PM
God is a male-created personification of Good, evil being personified by the d-evil.  The rest is just made up to control you.  Personally I was always more scared of the good guy!!   But indoctrination is hard to question when it starts even before you were born, with that original sin.  You can work it out though (unless you still believe in Santa?!).  But in South Derry, to question your faith was also to question your allegiance to community, nationality, culture, identity, language etc.   Not true!  I cut out the religious baggage long ago and much happier for it.  Most people viewed the sketch as satire and funny until the Archbishop rallied support - the last kick of catholic 'influence' maybe?   But to feel insulted that someone's questioning the scientific evidence for an immaculate conception?  Surely, by Jaysus, we have to be more grown-up than that?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 10, 2021, 10:13:44 PM
They’re gone it seems. I don’t think this is moderated any more.
Mod3 is still active as a poster.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JoG2 on January 10, 2021, 10:15:38 PM
They’re gone it seems. I don’t think this is moderated any more.
Mod3 is still active as a poster.

Tell me Sid and Angelo are not creations of the forum owners... Have to be. No-one has that much time on their hands (even during a pandemic) to be that repetitive and wordy!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 10, 2021, 10:22:56 PM
They’re gone it seems. I don’t think this is moderated any more.
Mod3 is still active as a poster.

Tell me Sid and Angelo are not creations of the forum owners... Have to be. No-one has that much time on their hands (even during a pandemic) to be that repetitive and wordy!
Sorry, I just did  a re-check and Mod3 hasn't posted since last May.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 10, 2021, 10:49:30 PM
They’re gone it seems. I don’t think this is moderated any more.
Mod3 is still active as a poster.

Tell me Sid and Angelo are not creations of the forum owners... Have to be. No-one has that much time on their hands (even during a pandemic) to be that repetitive and wordy!
Sorry, I just did  a re-check and Mod3 hasn't posted since last May.
February actually. Think he got cancelled.
Nah, his last post was in May. I have had a few chats/slags with him over the years since he first PMed me for a chat and he used his Mod3 handle from time to time.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rossfan on January 10, 2021, 11:49:25 PM
They’re gone it seems. I don’t think this is moderated any more.
Mod3 is still active as a poster.

Tell me Sid and Angelo are not creations of the forum owners... Have to be. No-one has that much time on their hands (even during a pandemic) to be that repetitive and wordy!
They gave to be.
No real people could be so one dimensional as those.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 12:16:13 AM
Nope, his last post was in February. He was last online in May.
I'm not going to push a point with you - the fact is that he, and it's a he, is no longer active.
The individual in question once PMed me using his poster handle- which was fair enough and we  stayed in periodic touch for a few years.
Then one time, inadvertently or otherwise, he contacted me as Mod3.
You seemed convinced that Ziggy Ego was in fact Mod3 and I asked him of I should PM you to put you out of your misery and he shot back saying he didn't give a f**k if to you knew who he was or not.
He made the reasonable point that , while he saw no point in advertising who he was, he had no problem admitting his identity if he had to.
Edit: You are right , his was last active in May. I may have said his last post was in May.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on January 11, 2021, 12:57:06 AM
Nope, his last post was in February. He was last online in May.
I'm not going to push a point with you - the fact is that he, and it's a he, is no longer active.
The individual in question once PMed me using his poster handle- which was fair enough and we  stayed in periodic touch for a few years.
Then one time, inadvertently or otherwise, he contacted me as Mod3.
You seemed convinced that Ziggy Ego was in fact Mod3 and I asked him of I should PM you to put you out of your misery and he shot back saying he didn't give a f**k if to you knew who he was or not.
He made the reasonable point that , while he saw no point in advertising who he was, he had no problem admitting his identity if he had to.
Edit: You are right , his was last active in May. I may have said his last post was in May.
I know we arsed around with the implication for months, I thought it was all a total písstake  but in good spirit. In other words, among the least likely posters to be  Mod3 was Ziggy Ego.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 01:01:16 AM
Discussions about mods always seem to come back to the who
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 08:41:59 AM

Sid, I just read the first sentence in your reply and I gave up all hope of having a sensible discussion with you.
This is what I am referring to:
“I don't see any connection between the murder of Manuela Riedo and an RTE sketch either - but then I don't see how your previous post was anything to do with the issue at hand.”
 
Then, in the one I am quoting  now you came up with this:
 
“Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?
 
If you can’t see a contradiction here, you are gone past redemption as I know it.
I know you are a Dublin supporter and logic rests lightly on the shoulders of those who support the Blues but howe you can see a connection between the rape and murder of a defenceless young woman and an unfunny and to many offensive poorly-writtten script from RTE beats me.
Bridget and Eamon is a work of art when compared to this dollop of horseshit and talking about the right of anyone to exercising freedom of speech at taxpayers’ money is a travesty of justice.
So David Quinn and the Iona Institute are shrieking about something or other. So what? Them hoors have turned shrieking into an art form. But, by all accounts, RTE have received a huge number of complaints from the general public and have reacted accordingly.
I really can't understand what you're complaining about.

I don't see a connection between Manuela Riedo's murder and the RTE sketch and already said so - so why are you saying I do?

This was the question I orginally asked you


Remember 2015 when David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute were all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech"?

Why not now?

You responded with

If I were to walk up to the local bully and tell him he's a thundering bollox, the least I could expect is a belt on the nose or a kick up the hole. Telling him it's my right to offend anyone I want to will probably do no good.

But this reply made zero sense - it was a bizarre tangent - and didn't answer my question at all

Nevertheless - this bizarre tangent showed some troubling opinions on your part - you created a hypothetical scenario which showcased George Hook style victim blaming tendencies

Unprompted, seemingly from nowhere, you appeared to state that victims of assault bear some responsibility if they are assaulted - but they don't

That's why I referenced Manuela Riedo - because if one is to follow this bizarre George Hook-esque logic, one could hold that Manuela Riedo bore some responsibility for being attacked and murdered - but obviously she didn't

Anyway back to the sketch - which is what I thought we were supposed be talking about before you took us off on that tangent

I thought the sketch was both funny and well observed - it satirised religious belief about the so called "Immaculate Conception" - where Mary was impregnated with the zygote of the son of God, through no wish of her own - and compared it against current norms, as well as the #metoo movement

It was designed to offend religious sensibilities, to offend a belief, which is absolutely fair game - Father Ted did the same thing, and we all love Father Ted

I mean, in the same way, one could satirise holy communion as cannibalism - actually one doesn't have to - according to Catholic teaching itself, holy communion as given out at mass is cannibalism - as you're supposed to be eating the actual body of Christ

According to Catholic teaching itself, at mass the priest is supposed to be drinking the actual blood of Christ - so isn't this vampirism? Yes? That's what drinking the actual blood of others is

You didn't think the sketch was funny - so what - that's not a basis for an apology

The point is - why should RTE or Aengus MacGrianna apologise for what was a legitimate piece of satire?

The self proclaimed Catholic religious right have styled themselves as so called "free speech warriors" - up to and including apologism for and outright defences of many things most reasonable people would consider hate speech - they seem to be just fine with abhorrent, extreme right-wing politics worldwide

Yet now they're up in arms over this sketch - which shows them up as total and utter hypocrites who do not believe a word they previously said

It shows them up as holding moronic opinions - they think it's fine to utter hate speech against others - but it's apparently off limits to legitimately satirise the Catholic right's religious beliefs?

These are not legitimate opinions - they are moronic ones and deserve to be torn apart

This sketch wasn't hate speech - it was satire of actual religious teaching, satire of a legend from the bible

I don't see anything remotely wrong with that

Stand up comedian Kevin Bridges has based a sketch around the same thing satirised in the RTE sketch - and very funny it is too - in my opinion of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9B9UHlg3ig
Sid, I don’t see us reaching a mutual understanding anytime soon and, as I don’t want to keep knocking on a closed door repeatedly, I’lli finish this discussion with this post.
 
At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”
 
What appears to be a matter of free speech to you is apparently incitement to hate to 5,000 others.
Does majority rule or not?
I don’t see much point in continuing a point picking exercise since the rules of logic don’t apply to you but I'll sign off with a few of the more noteworthy examples.
If you recall, you stated that there should have been no apology and I asked you why not.
I stated ,”The sole object of the exercise was to offend the religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and caused extreme offence to the general public …
 
Your bizarre reply was to accuse me of using Georg Hook logic and for a leap of imagination it is hard to beat this: Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?
Why exactly is that supposed to mean???
AS for David Quinn and the I Own Her (Iona?) Institute and Charlie Hebdo stickers, I had already pointed out that the magazine’s editor had already paid with his life for exercising his right to free speech and in so doing, five of his colleagues died along with him. A young gendarme was murdered also and scores of churches were razed to the ground in Ghana (?)   
What the editor may have supposed as a legitimate freedom of expression was taken by Muslin fundamentalists as an incitement to hatred with calamitous results for thousands of innocent people.
All the #jesuischarlies in the world cannot gainsay that.
At best they signalled to millions of fundamentalists that the West  was impotent to retaliate and, worst of all, seemed to imply that western society condoned the insult to Allah.
And #jesuischarlie?
An  exercise in futility at its worst.
That’s where my allusion to being assaulted by the local bully enters the picture.
In short, it's alright to express your personal opinion but be wary of the response you may get.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2021, 09:01:47 AM

At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”

So nobody, absolutely nobody other than Sid disagrees with the decision here? Or are you just posting, either deliberately or through ignorance and incompetence, misleading waffle by counting "votes" from one source to bolster your arguement? OK Donald.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2021, 09:15:56 AM
I see a massive furore of the cancelling of that Parler social media platform by AWS(aka Amazon cloud essentially).
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 12:17:08 PM

At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”

So nobody, absolutely nobody other than Sid disagrees with the decision here? Or are you just posting, either deliberately or through ignorance and incompetence, misleading waffle by counting "votes" from one source to bolster your arguement? OK Donald.
Read hat I wrote and include the links I referred to. I have said before that I have not come across a single mention of anyone making a complaint about the apology being issued.
So, AFAIK, the count is 5,000 or thereabouts versus sid.
For the record have you any credible sources to suggest that sid has more support than I have been able to find.
Aso for the record, I did not depend on one source to arrive at my conclusion. I based what I said on what I read in the INdo, RTE, The Sun and extra.ie and I know there are a long list of others if you care to google for "Angus mac Grianna apology."
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on January 11, 2021, 12:41:17 PM
I see a massive furore of the cancelling of that Parler social media platform by AWS(aka Amazon cloud essentially).

And not an iota of self reflection from them on WHY they've been booted off by Amazon, Apple and Google.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 12:58:30 PM

Sid, I don’t see us reaching a mutual understanding anytime soon and, as I don’t want to keep knocking on a closed door repeatedly, I’lli finish this discussion with this post.
 
At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”
 
What appears to be a matter of free speech to you is apparently incitement to hate to 5,000 others.
Does majority rule or not?
I don’t see much point in continuing a point picking exercise since the rules of logic don’t apply to you but I'll sign off with a few of the more noteworthy examples.
If you recall, you stated that there should have been no apology and I asked you why not.
I stated ,”The sole object of the exercise was to offend the religious beliefs of possibly the majority people on the island. By all accounts, the show had no cultural or artistic merit and caused extreme offence to the general public …
 
Your bizarre reply was to accuse me of using Georg Hook logic and for a leap of imagination it is hard to beat this: Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?
Why exactly is that supposed to mean???
AS for David Quinn and the I Own Her (Iona?) Institute and Charlie Hebdo stickers, I had already pointed out that the magazine’s editor had already paid with his life for exercising his right to free speech and in so doing, five of his colleagues died along with him. A young gendarme was murdered also and scores of churches were razed to the ground in Ghana (?)   
What the editor may have supposed as a legitimate freedom of expression was taken by Muslin fundamentalists as an incitement to hatred with calamitous results for thousands of innocent people.
All the #jesuischarlies in the world cannot gainsay that.
At best they signalled to millions of fundamentalists that the West  was impotent to retaliate and, worst of all, seemed to imply that western society condoned the insult to Allah.
And #jesuischarlie?
An  exercise in futility at its worst.
That’s where my allusion to being assaulted by the local bully enters the picture.
In short, it's alright to express your personal opinion but be wary of the response you may get.
RTE received a load of complaints

So what?

I do not understand at all what point you are trying to make re the Charlie Hebdo massacre

I asked you why you think David Quinn and I Own Her were all #jesusicharlie and yet have taken the exact opposite opinion as regards the RTE sketch



Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on January 11, 2021, 01:04:26 PM

At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”

So nobody, absolutely nobody other than Sid disagrees with the decision here? Or are you just posting, either deliberately or through ignorance and incompetence, misleading waffle by counting "votes" from one source to bolster your arguement? OK Donald.
Read hat I wrote and include the links I referred to. I have said before that I have not come across a single mention of anyone making a complaint about the apology being issued.
So, AFAIK, the count is 5,000 or thereabouts versus sid.
For the record have you any credible sources to suggest that sid has more support than I have been able to find.
Aso for the record, I did not depend on one source to arrive at my conclusion. I based what I said on what I read in the INdo, RTE, The Sun and extra.ie and I know there are a long list of others if you care to google for "Angus mac Grianna apology."

False equivalence and you know it. I asked whether your nonsense was a result of ignorance or incompetence. It's evidently both.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 01:06:28 PM

At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”

So nobody, absolutely nobody other than Sid disagrees with the decision here? Or are you just posting, either deliberately or through ignorance and incompetence, misleading waffle by counting "votes" from one source to bolster your arguement? OK Donald.
Read hat I wrote and include the links I referred to. I have said before that I have not come across a single mention of anyone making a complaint about the apology being issued.
So, AFAIK, the count is 5,000 or thereabouts versus sid.
For the record have you any credible sources to suggest that sid has more support than I have been able to find.
Aso for the record, I did not depend on one source to arrive at my conclusion. I based what I said on what I read in the INdo, RTE, The Sun and extra.ie and I know there are a long list of others if you care to google for "Angus mac Grianna apology."

What on earth has RTE receiving complaints about the sketch got to do with anything?

RTE also received a load of complaints about the series "Normal People" - sure Liveline was filled with pearl clutchers comparing it to a porno movie, prompting the memorable question "what would you see in a porno movie, Mary?" One eejit kept asking other callers "are you a Christian" - because apparently realistic depictions of sex are "un-Christian", maybe sex itself is "un-Christian", that's the impression you get from such people, and sure we all know there was no sex in Ireland until the Late Late Show came along

It appears you are now saying that RTE should also have issued an apology for screening "Normal People" and should have removed it from the RTE Player

All because they received a load of complaints

You are saying that TV companies should remove any content and apologise if they receive a load of complaints by fools

But that's arrant nonsense - of course they shouldn't





Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 03:39:45 PM

At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”

So nobody, absolutely nobody other than Sid disagrees with the decision here? Or are you just posting, either deliberately or through ignorance and incompetence, misleading waffle by counting "votes" from one source to bolster your arguement? OK Donald.
Read hat I wrote and include the links I referred to. I have said before that I have not come across a single mention of anyone making a complaint about the apology being issued.
So, AFAIK, the count is 5,000 or thereabouts versus sid.
For the record have you any credible sources to suggest that sid has more support than I have been able to find.
Aso for the record, I did not depend on one source to arrive at my conclusion. I based what I said on what I read in the INdo, RTE, The Sun and extra.ie and I know there are a long list of others if you care to google for "Angus mac Grianna apology."

False equivalence and you know it. I asked whether your nonsense was a result of ignorance or incompetence. It's evidently both.
I gave my reasons at length for what I said. and supplied links where appropriate You provided neither. Like sid, you let sweeping assertions take the place of reasoned debate and you accuse me of false equivalance!
I doubt if you know what the term means.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 03:56:20 PM

At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”

So nobody, absolutely nobody other than Sid disagrees with the decision here? Or are you just posting, either deliberately or through ignorance and incompetence, misleading waffle by counting "votes" from one source to bolster your arguement? OK Donald.
Read hat I wrote and include the links I referred to. I have said before that I have not come across a single mention of anyone making a complaint about the apology being issued.
So, AFAIK, the count is 5,000 or thereabouts versus sid.
For the record have you any credible sources to suggest that sid has more support than I have been able to find.
Aso for the record, I did not depend on one source to arrive at my conclusion. I based what I said on what I read in the INdo, RTE, The Sun and extra.ie and I know there are a long list of others if you care to google for "Angus mac Grianna apology."

What on earth has RTE receiving complaints about the sketch got to do with anything?

RTE also received a load of complaints about the series "Normal People" - sure Liveline was filled with pearl clutchers comparing it to a porno movie, prompting the memorable question "what would you see in a porno movie, Mary?" One eejit kept asking other callers "are you a Christian" - because apparently realistic depictions of sex are "un-Christian", maybe sex itself is "un-Christian", that's the impression you get from such people, and sure we all know there was no sex in Ireland until the Late Late Show came along

It appears you are now saying that RTE should also have issued an apology for screening "Normal People" and should have removed it from the RTE Player

All because they received a load of complaints

You are saying that TV companies should remove any content and apologise if they receive a load of complaints by fools

But that's arrant nonsense - of course they shouldn't
Who decides what "fools" means? You oe the RTE authority?
Yes, RTE received loads of complaints about "Normal People" but they also received loads of positive responses, something that didn't happen with Mac Grianna's attempt at humour.
sid, there is an old adage that says if you find yourself explaining, you are losing and I don't intend to stay losing with a pair of natural losers. So it's a case of over and out from me right now.
But before I sign out, you may recall that I have found thay you can come up with astounding assumptions in place of reasonable debate.
Where did I say anywhere anything that would lead a sane person to those conclusions?

If you can answer that question, I will come back and respond if I am able. I will admit I am wrong if I cannot.
Now if you want to come back with another tirade of half-backed assertions, you are free to use them as cyber suppositories as far as I am concerned.
Like the other loola, who jumped into the middle of an ongoing discussion without bothering to take context into account, you are prone to throw shit in the hope that some of it sticks.

Here's one prime example of what I am referring to:
You are saying that TV companies should remove any content and apologise if they receive a load of complaints by fools
But that's arrant nonsense - of course they shouldn't
Who decides what "fools" means? You or the RTE authority and where did I say anything of the sort?

Yes, RTE received loads of complaints about "Normal People" but they also received loads of positive responses, something that didn't happen with Mac Grianna's attempt at humour.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 05:26:30 PM

At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”

So nobody, absolutely nobody other than Sid disagrees with the decision here? Or are you just posting, either deliberately or through ignorance and incompetence, misleading waffle by counting "votes" from one source to bolster your arguement? OK Donald.
Read hat I wrote and include the links I referred to. I have said before that I have not come across a single mention of anyone making a complaint about the apology being issued.
So, AFAIK, the count is 5,000 or thereabouts versus sid.
For the record have you any credible sources to suggest that sid has more support than I have been able to find.
Aso for the record, I did not depend on one source to arrive at my conclusion. I based what I said on what I read in the INdo, RTE, The Sun and extra.ie and I know there are a long list of others if you care to google for "Angus mac Grianna apology."

What on earth has RTE receiving complaints about the sketch got to do with anything?

RTE also received a load of complaints about the series "Normal People" - sure Liveline was filled with pearl clutchers comparing it to a porno movie, prompting the memorable question "what would you see in a porno movie, Mary?" One eejit kept asking other callers "are you a Christian" - because apparently realistic depictions of sex are "un-Christian", maybe sex itself is "un-Christian", that's the impression you get from such people, and sure we all know there was no sex in Ireland until the Late Late Show came along

It appears you are now saying that RTE should also have issued an apology for screening "Normal People" and should have removed it from the RTE Player

All because they received a load of complaints

You are saying that TV companies should remove any content and apologise if they receive a load of complaints by fools

But that's arrant nonsense - of course they shouldn't
Who decides what "fools" means? You oe the RTE authority?
Yes, RTE received loads of complaints about "Normal People" but they also received loads of positive responses, something that didn't happen with Mac Grianna's attempt at humour.
sid, there is an old adage that says if you find yourself explaining, you are losing and I don't intend to stay losing with a pair of natural losers. So it's a case of over and out from me right now.
But before I sign out, you may recall that I have found thay you can come up with astounding assumptions in place of reasonable debate.
Where did I say anywhere anything that would lead a sane person to those conclusions?

If you can answer that question, I will come back and respond if I am able. I will admit I am wrong if I cannot.
Now if you want to come back with another tirade of half-backed assertions, you are free to use them as cyber suppositories as far as I am concerned.
Like the other loola, who jumped into the middle of an ongoing discussion without bothering to take context into account, you are prone to throw shit in the hope that some of it sticks.

Here's one prime example of what I am referring to:
You are saying that TV companies should remove any content and apologise if they receive a load of complaints by fools
But that's arrant nonsense - of course they shouldn't
Who decides what "fools" means? You or the RTE authority and where did I say anything of the sort?

Yes, RTE received loads of complaints about "Normal People" but they also received loads of positive responses, something that didn't happen with Mac Grianna's attempt at humour.
I haven't the faintest idea what you're on about - to be honest I haven't had at any stage of our exchange, you've made zero sense - but I did love the inanity of you reciting "if you're explaining you're losing" - followed by a nice bit of personal abuse, as if this somehow constituted a point

That the people who complained were fools is a personal opinion of mine and I have not heard a single thing to make me change my mind on that

You are saying exactly what I said you're saying - your main "point" is that people complained, so therefore there should be an apology and withdrawal of the sketch from the RTE Player

Again I say, people complained, so f**king what?

People who complain are not owed a single word of apology because they did not like a sketch

The sketch did its job and nobody should have apologised - RTE and Aengus MacGrianna did so because of right-wing mob behaviour

As long as such a sketch did not veer into hate speech - which it did not - not one of these complainers is owed a single word of apology - they're cranks who are obsessed with right-wing political correctness - but the Catholic religious right has spent the last six years at least claiming they were against political correctness

So they are liars and hypocrites - and not once have you acknowledged this

Hopefully for them it won't be long before the churches open again and they can get back to their celebration of rape - sorry, I mean forced, involuntary impregnation, and cannibalism and vampirism - although the last two are not actually cannibalism and vampirism - just eating small pieces of wafer, and priests and communion servers drinking a sup of wine





Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 06:07:34 PM

At a conservativwe estimate, you have been outvoted by 5,000 to one at the very least.
RTE has said ““The formal complaints received by RTÉ are being entered into our complaints system and will be responded to in accordance with the relevant statutory process.”
 
Headed “‘God’ comedy sketch on RTE provokes 5,000 complaints”
https://extra.ie/2021/01/07/news/irish-news/rte-god-sketch-player
Carries a report that began:
“Aired on the RTE New Year’s Eve Countdown Show, the fake news skit depicted God as a rapist, and prompted more than 5,000 complaints.”

So nobody, absolutely nobody other than Sid disagrees with the decision here? Or are you just posting, either deliberately or through ignorance and incompetence, misleading waffle by counting "votes" from one source to bolster your arguement? OK Donald.
Read hat I wrote and include the links I referred to. I have said before that I have not come across a single mention of anyone making a complaint about the apology being issued.
So, AFAIK, the count is 5,000 or thereabouts versus sid.
For the record have you any credible sources to suggest that sid has more support than I have been able to find.
Aso for the record, I did not depend on one source to arrive at my conclusion. I based what I said on what I read in the INdo, RTE, The Sun and extra.ie and I know there are a long list of others if you care to google for "Angus mac Grianna apology."

What on earth has RTE receiving complaints about the sketch got to do with anything?

RTE also received a load of complaints about the series "Normal People" - sure Liveline was filled with pearl clutchers comparing it to a porno movie, prompting the memorable question "what would you see in a porno movie, Mary?" One eejit kept asking other callers "are you a Christian" - because apparently realistic depictions of sex are "un-Christian", maybe sex itself is "un-Christian", that's the impression you get from such people, and sure we all know there was no sex in Ireland until the Late Late Show came along

It appears you are now saying that RTE should also have issued an apology for screening "Normal People" and should have removed it from the RTE Player

All because they received a load of complaints

You are saying that TV companies should remove any content and apologise if they receive a load of complaints by fools

But that's arrant nonsense - of course they shouldn't
Who decides what "fools" means? You oe the RTE authority?
Yes, RTE received loads of complaints about "Normal People" but they also received loads of positive responses, something that didn't happen with Mac Grianna's attempt at humour.
sid, there is an old adage that says if you find yourself explaining, you are losing and I don't intend to stay losing with a pair of natural losers. So it's a case of over and out from me right now.
But before I sign out, you may recall that I have found thay you can come up with astounding assumptions in place of reasonable debate.
Where did I say anywhere anything that would lead a sane person to those conclusions?

If you can answer that question, I will come back and respond if I am able. I will admit I am wrong if I cannot.
Now if you want to come back with another tirade of half-backed assertions, you are free to use them as cyber suppositories as far as I am concerned.
Like the other loola, who jumped into the middle of an ongoing discussion without bothering to take context into account, you are prone to throw shit in the hope that some of it sticks.

Here's one prime example of what I am referring to:
You are saying that TV companies should remove any content and apologise if they receive a load of complaints by fools
But that's arrant nonsense - of course they shouldn't
Who decides what "fools" means? You or the RTE authority and where did I say anything of the sort?

Yes, RTE received loads of complaints about "Normal People" but they also received loads of positive responses, something that didn't happen with Mac Grianna's attempt at humour.
I haven't the faintest idea what you're on about - to be honest I haven't had at any stage of our exchange, you've made zero sense - but I did love the inanity of you reciting "if you're explaining you're losing" - followed by a nice bit of personal abuse, as if this somehow constituted a point

That the people who complained were fools is a personal opinion of mine and I have not heard a single thing to make me change my mind on that

You are saying exactly what I said you're saying - your main "point" is that people complained, so therefore there should be an apology and withdrawal of the sketch from the RTE Player

Again I say, people complained, so f**king what?

People who complain are not owed a single word of apology because they did not like a sketch

The sketch did its job and nobody should have apologised - RTE and Aengus MacGrianna did so because of right-wing mob behaviour

As long as such a sketch did not veer into hate speech - which it did not - not one of these complainers is owed a single word of apology - they're cranks who are obsessed with right-wing political correctness - but the Catholic religious right has spent the last six years at least claiming they were against political correctness

So they are liars and hypocrites - and not once have you acknowledged this

Hopefully for them it won't be long before the churches open again and they can get back to their celebration of rape - sorry, I mean forced, involuntary impregnation, and cannibalism and vampirism - although the last two are not actually cannibalism and vampirism - just eating small pieces of wafer, and priests and communion servers drinking a sup of wine

:D :D :D :D
Unfounded assumptions aka personal opinion  all the way!
I'll give you credit for your refusal to shut up.
But I won't encourage yopu any further.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 06:12:53 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rossfan on January 11, 2021, 08:49:36 PM
No need to feel sorry for me Lar ;D
I'll get there in the end.
Many generations of cattle dealing ancestors has bred it in me not to waste time on bullsh1t hence my using the ignore function on certain individuals.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 11, 2021, 08:51:14 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D

Lár na Páirce - do you mind me asking if you believe that 'The Blessed Virgin' was impregnated by 'God'?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 08:58:56 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D
And yet nobody can ever point out anything remotely nuts about any of my opinions

Read back over what you're written on this thread

By any reasonable standards it's pretty out there

You literally think people complaining about a sketch is grounds for a public apology and censorship of the sketch

Then there was the bizarre imagined scenario you created where you implied victims of assault bear some responsibility for such - you then extended this to the Charlie Hebdo massacre where you implied that the victims who worked at that magazine had it coming to them

Plus you didn't answer any questions

If you think I've written here is "nuts" and what you've written is reasonable, you should probably take a reality check
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 11, 2021, 09:21:45 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D
And yet nobody can ever point out anything remotely nuts about any of my opinions

Read back over what you're written on this thread

By any reasonable standards it's pretty out there

You literally think people complaining about a sketch is grounds for a public apology and censorship of the sketch

Then there was the bizarre imagined scenario you created where you implied victims of assault bear some responsibility for such - you then extended this to the Charlie Hebdo massacre where you implied that the victims who worked at that magazine had it coming to them

Plus you didn't answer any questions

If you think I've written here is "nuts" and what you've written is reasonable, you should probably take a reality check

In fairness, Angelo, you probably could temper things a little bit now and again, post below for example re teachers:

"Big heave from teachers now to get their vaccines as priority.

Of course this would have nothing to do with June/July coming around the corner and the probable necessity of having received a vaccination to holiday abroad. Happy enough to strike on what they're paid to do and then happy enough to push more vulnerable categories under the bus to get their summer holidays abroad.

Teachers really are the bottom of the barrel."


In the meantime I would welcome more debate re the Immaculate Conception from Lár na Páirce [though he seems to spell his name in Ulster Scots] and from yourself Angelo. 
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 09:49:14 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D
And yet nobody can ever point out anything remotely nuts about any of my opinions

Read back over what you're written on this thread

By any reasonable standards it's pretty out there

You literally think people complaining about a sketch is grounds for a public apology and censorship of the sketch

Then there was the bizarre imagined scenario you created where you implied victims of assault bear some responsibility for such - you then extended this to the Charlie Hebdo massacre where you implied that the victims who worked at that magazine had it coming to them

Plus you didn't answer any questions

If you think I've written here is "nuts" and what you've written is reasonable, you should probably take a reality check

In fairness, Angelo, you probably could temper things a little bit now and again, post below for example re teachers:

"Big heave from teachers now to get their vaccines as priority.

Of course this would have nothing to do with June/July coming around the corner and the probable necessity of having received a vaccination to holiday abroad. Happy enough to strike on what they're paid to do and then happy enough to push more vulnerable categories under the bus to get their summer holidays abroad.

Teachers really are the bottom of the barrel."


In the meantime I would welcome more debate re the Immaculate Conception from Lár na Páirce [though he seems to spell his name in Ulster Scots] and from yourself Angelo.
Ok Seaney
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 11, 2021, 10:21:56 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D
And yet nobody can ever point out anything remotely nuts about any of my opinions

Read back over what you're written on this thread

By any reasonable standards it's pretty out there

You literally think people complaining about a sketch is grounds for a public apology and censorship of the sketch

Then there was the bizarre imagined scenario you created where you implied victims of assault bear some responsibility for such - you then extended this to the Charlie Hebdo massacre where you implied that the victims who worked at that magazine had it coming to them

Plus you didn't answer any questions

If you think I've written here is "nuts" and what you've written is reasonable, you should probably take a reality check

In fairness, Angelo, you probably could temper things a little bit now and again, post below for example re teachers:

"Big heave from teachers now to get their vaccines as priority.

Of course this would have nothing to do with June/July coming around the corner and the probable necessity of having received a vaccination to holiday abroad. Happy enough to strike on what they're paid to do and then happy enough to push more vulnerable categories under the bus to get their summer holidays abroad.

Teachers really are the bottom of the barrel."


In the meantime I would welcome more debate re the Immaculate Conception from Lár na Páirce [though he seems to spell his name in Ulster Scots] and from yourself Angelo.
Ok Seaney
Sorry, you have that one wrong.   Where do you stand on the immaculate conception accuracy?   
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 11:23:48 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D

Lár na Páirce - do you mind me asking if you believe that 'The Blessed Virgin' was impregnated by 'God'?


The short answer to both queries is no- I don't mind you asking and I don’t believe in the Virgin birth.
However, my personal beliefs  are, well, personal and I do not attempt to foist mine on others who may disagree with me.
Had advance warning been given that the sketch in question contained material that could give offence to some viewers and had a more suitable broadcast being chosen, I doubt that I would have [paid much, if any, attention to the presentation.
THe time chosen to air this sketch was a time when families throughout the country were settling down to watch the celebrations marking the change of year.  That meant that considerable numbers of elderly, devout Christains and equally huge numbers of impressionable young children would be tuned in. For once I agree with sid, when he says the purpose of the exercise was to cause offence.
I am not naive enough to think that sid is the only one who thinks there should have been no apology but he is the only one to date who has said so publicly- to te best of my knowledge.
According to what I have read on extra.ie and a number of other media outlets, over 5,000 watchers have lodged formal complaints. Not a single reference to a mention of an opposite view.
If majority rights have an meaning, you’ll find it here.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rossfan on January 11, 2021, 11:25:49 PM
I suspect ye both are getting the Immaculate Conception wrong. :P
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 11:30:07 PM
5,000 people is a very small minority

I'm still waiting for an actual reason as to why there should have been an apology given

If God didn't impregnate Mary, who did?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on January 11, 2021, 11:39:06 PM
Allah?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 11, 2021, 11:44:29 PM
5,000 people is a very small minority

I'm still waiting for an actual reason as to why there should have been an apology given

If God didn't impregnate Mary, who did?
You're nothing if not a trier!
For the umpteenth time, I never said only 5,000 objected too the sketch being broadast/ demanded an apology or whatever you are trying to imply.
I gave my source when I said over 5,000 viewers had formally objected, which is a different matter entirely.
All I've got from you are banal assertions.  Looks like you've usurped the pope's job and go about declaring your views are infallible.
As for your last question, htf am I expected to know or even believe what you've asked??
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 11:49:49 PM
5,000 people is a very small minority

I'm still waiting for an actual reason as to why there should have been an apology given

If God didn't impregnate Mary, who did?
You're nothing if not a trier!
For the umpteenth time, I never said only 5,000 objected too the sketch being broadast/ demanded an apology or whatever you are trying to imply.
I gave my source when I said over 5,000 viewers had formally objected, which is a different matter entirely.
All I've got from you are banal assertions.  Looks like you've usurped the pope's job and go about declaring your views are infallible.
As for your last question, htf am I expected to know or even believe what you've asked??
If 4.8 million people formally objected, it still wouldn't make any difference

Your rationale is clear, you think apologies should be given based not on the merits or demerits of the actual sketch itself, but because of bullying

You're the person acting like the Pope here and attempting to force your views onto others!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 11, 2021, 11:54:53 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 12, 2021, 12:15:50 AM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 12, 2021, 11:23:14 AM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 12, 2021, 11:28:38 AM
As regards the Brass Eye Paedogeddon programme, C4 did indeed apologise

They cancelled the Brass Eye series

And they were wrong to do so

20 years later, the programme is remembered as one of the finest and most daring ever broadcast on UK television, and is still extremely relevant today - especially with the bizarre phenomena of QAnon, so called "paedophile hunters" and the far right's extremely creepy obsession with paedophilia in general - which smacks of extreme denial
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on January 12, 2021, 11:29:27 AM
Very brave of Twitter, Facebook etc to ban him once his presidential term is coming to an end.

If they felt that way why didn't they do it midway through his term?

All for optics.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 12, 2021, 11:34:06 AM
Very brave of Twitter, Facebook etc to ban him once his presidential term is coming to an end.

If they felt that way why didn't they do it midway through his term?

All for optics.
Of course it's all for optics, it isn't brave at all, like, duh

They've only acted now when they think they have more to lose by leaving him there, plus they fear regulation by the incoming administration

They should have banned him years ago - he has always been a clear and present threat, well before he was president, and so have his supporters

Social media companies have profited massively from far right hate speech



Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on January 12, 2021, 11:40:21 AM
On the subject of far right interesting to see that parler shut down - by amazon as well. (I am not 100% sure it was far right but anything I have read suggests that)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 12, 2021, 11:51:02 AM
On the subject of far right interesting to see that parler shut down - by amazon as well. (I am not 100% sure it was far right but anything I have read suggests that)
Parler styles itself as an extreme "pro-free speech" site, which means it's far right

Then you get Trump supporters like Lin Wood calling for firing squads against Mike Pence

This is what unfettered free speech means

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on January 12, 2021, 12:07:02 PM
Very brave of Twitter, Facebook etc to ban him once his presidential term is coming to an end.

If they felt that way why didn't they do it midway through his term?

All for optics.
Of course it's all for optics, it isn't brave at all, like, duh

They've only acted now when they think they have more to lose by leaving him there, plus they fear regulation by the incoming administration

They should have banned him years ago - he has always been a clear and present threat, well before he was president, and so have his supporters

Social media companies have profited massively from far right hate speech

Agreed, I just have a problem with them now acting as if they are somehow heroic because they are kicking Trump when he's on the ground but wouldn't do anything when he had power.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 12, 2021, 12:29:39 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 12, 2021, 01:35:18 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
You can call me an asshole all you want, please do

The rest of your little hypothetical dig into my background, if you were making it seriously, would constitute ad hominem abuse of my family - which would only make you look like a gigantic asshole

Why wouldn't I support Dublin, I come from Dublin

Your statement that my support for Dublin shows I "don't know my ass from my elbow" makes as much sense as if I said you don't know your ass from your elbow because you support Mayo

The basic problem you have is that you don't understand the boundaries of what is acceptable satire/comedy and hate speech, and neither do you understand the boundaries between what is acceptable opinion about a person or a belief they have, and unacceptable abuse of them based on non-chosen family background or non-chosen characteristics they may have

You'd want to watch that tendency, could be a problem for you in society

The sketch was broadcast after the watershed, it was broadcast late at night, it wasn't broadcast in the CBeebies slot

Again I find it hilarious how you invoke the Pope - surely under your own rules, that's unacceptable - well I suppose it would be if it wasn't projection, which it is

And I'm not really sure how you think I'm acting like "the Pope", given that I'm defending the right to poke fun at religion, while your whole argument here has been about how making fun of religion is off limits

Your post actually reads like Mary Whitehouse, or Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons, you even paraphrase her "won't somebody please think of the children?!" line
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 12, 2021, 03:14:37 PM
Chuck Norris?! This year just gets worser and worser......
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
As regards the Brass Eye Paedogeddon programme, C4 did indeed apologise

They cancelled the Brass Eye series

And they were wrong to do so

20 years later, the programme is remembered as one of the finest and most daring ever broadcast on UK television, and is still extremely relevant today - especially with the bizarre phenomena of QAnon, so called "paedophile hunters" and the far right's extremely creepy obsession with paedophilia in general - which smacks of extreme denial

How did the presenter end up after all that? Just interested I've no axe to grind on this topic
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Taylor on January 12, 2021, 03:21:08 PM
Chuck Norris?! This year just gets worser and worser......

What did Chuck do?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 12, 2021, 04:08:13 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
You can call me an asshole all you want, please do

The rest of your little hypothetical dig into my background, if you were making it seriously, would constitute ad hominem abuse of my family - which would only make you look like a gigantic asshole

Why wouldn't I support Dublin, I come from Dublin

Your statement that my support for Dublin shows I "don't know my ass from my elbow" makes as much sense as if I said you don't know your ass from your elbow because you support Mayo

The basic problem you have is that you don't understand the boundaries of what is acceptable satire/comedy and hate speech, and neither do you understand the boundaries between what is acceptable opinion about a person or a belief they have, and unacceptable abuse of them based on non-chosen family background or non-chosen characteristics they may have

You'd want to watch that tendency, could be a problem for you in society

The sketch was broadcast after the watershed, it was broadcast late at night, it wasn't broadcast in the CBeebies slot

Again I find it hilarious how you invoke the Pope - surely under your own rules, that's unacceptable - well I suppose it would be if it wasn't projection, which it is

And I'm not really sure how you think I'm acting like "the Pope", given that I'm defending the right to poke fun at religion, while your whole argument here has been about how making fun of religion is off limits

Your post actually reads like Mary Whitehouse, or Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons, you even paraphrase her "won't somebody please think of the children?!" line
sid you are getting worse!
If you bother to read what I wrote, you may realise that I called you nothing of the sort.
The sketch was broadcast at a time when young an old were tuned in to watch new year's festivities, which  was mentioned by a considerable number of those who formally complained.
Your modus operandi seems to to make sweeping decorations that do not allow for any counter opinion. There is seldom any attempt to justify what you are handing down to he rest of us poor mortals.
Tell you what sid- if you can get anyone to put it in writing that your line of reasoning makes perfect sense, I will admit that I am beaten and I will rest my case,
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rossfan on January 12, 2021, 04:12:11 PM
Use the ignore function thingy Lar ;)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 12, 2021, 04:51:23 PM
Use the ignore function thingy Lar ;)
I know I should Ross this is my only of killing time at the moment.

I need renal dialysis 3 times a week and I can do very little during sessions as my left hand is used for the dialysis so cap letters are a problem.
To cap it all, Santa's idea of a Christmas pressie wab an emergency eye operation on Christmas Eve. A case of a detached retina without any warning.
So its a case of going mad quickly from sheer boredom or going ditto trying to figure wtf sid is on about. I've a touch of masochism in my makeup so I chose the latter.
(But I'm starting to have ne doubts,) ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 12, 2021, 05:08:02 PM
Chuck Norris?! This year just gets worser and worser......

What did Chuck do?

Was allegedly at the Capitol Hill saga but have since read it was a doppleganger. Apologies. Hes not been cancelled! 2021 mite be ok yet! Tho he is a Trump supporter..

Lar i had both eyes done. Other than the injecting at start not too bad eh?! Always fun telling people how brave ive been, being awake throughout them etc 😃
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Taylor on January 12, 2021, 05:13:41 PM
Chuck Norris?! This year just gets worser and worser......

What did Chuck do?

Was allegedly at the Capitol Hill saga but have since read it was a doppleganger. Apologies. Hes not been cancelled! 2021 mite be ok yet! Tho he is a Trump supporter..

Lar i had both eyes done. Other than the injecting at start not too bad eh?! Always fun telling people how brave ive been, being awake throughout them etc 😃

Phew - 2021 would be going the way of 2020 if they cancelled Chuck
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 12, 2021, 07:46:48 PM
I suspect ye both are getting the Immaculate Conception wrong. :P
This is a good point!!  I'm that long away from it, I forgot about the finer detail of Mary's 'birth'.  Thanks for spotting my Immaculate Misconception!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 12, 2021, 08:05:10 PM
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D

Lár na Páirce - do you mind me asking if you believe that 'The Blessed Virgin' was impregnated by 'God'?


The short answer to both queries is no- I don't mind you asking and I don’t believe in the Virgin birth.
However, my personal beliefs  are, well, personal and I do not attempt to foist mine on others who may disagree with me.
Had advance warning been given that the sketch in question contained material that could give offence to some viewers and had a more suitable broadcast being chosen, I doubt that I would have [paid much, if any, attention to the presentation.
THe time chosen to air this sketch was a time when families throughout the country were settling down to watch the celebrations marking the change of year.  That meant that considerable numbers of elderly, devout Christains and equally huge numbers of impressionable young children would be tuned in. For once I agree with sid, when he says the purpose of the exercise was to cause offence.
I am not naive enough to think that sid is the only one who thinks there should have been no apology but he is the only one to date who has said so publicly- to te best of my knowledge.
According to what I have read on extra.ie and a number of other media outlets, over 5,000 watchers have lodged formal complaints. Not a single reference to a mention of an opposite view.
If majority rights have an meaning, you’ll find it here.

Thanks for reply.  I don't feel an apology was required as God doesn't exist for me so it was humour about a ridiculous belief - for me, of course.
I think that satire can be useful in prompting people to actually think through 'blind belief'.   People who enjoyed it had no need to let RTÉ know, only those who took offence.  My own opinion is that some people nowadays 'choose' to be offended - far too easily (not referring to you necessarily!).  I doubt if there is a 'joke' in the world that someone someplace couldn't take offence to, if they tried or wanted.  After the watershed, it is parental responsibility to decide who watches what, imo.  Having said that, I do respect your opinion on the matter.

Anyhow, on a different note and genuinely, it is a great pity that so many of the great servants to Mayo football have recently ended their county days without the medal they dreamed of.   Unlucky to come up against, so often, the greatest team that there has ever been (again, just imo!)

Sláinte na bhFear agus Contae Mhaigh Eo, nuair a éagas na Gaeil ná raibh aon duine beo!

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on January 12, 2021, 08:28:55 PM
I suspect ye both are getting the Immaculate Conception wrong. :P
This is a good point!!  I'm that long away from it, I forgot about the finer detail of Mary's 'birth'.  Thanks for spotting my Immaculate Misconception!!!   ;D
That people who were all over #jesuischarlie but are complaining about this sketch are fools is a personal opinion

That they are liars and hypocrites is fact

And neither are they critical thinkers - you've done a fair job lumping yourself into that category too

Not once have you provided any sort of justification for an apology
sid, believe it or not, I am beginning to feel sorry for Rossfan.
I know next to nothing about Angelo and I used to think you were just a harmless nutcase but I'll now take Rossfan's opinion of you as proven beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt.  ;D ;D ;D

Lár na Páirce - do you mind me asking if you believe that 'The Blessed Virgin' was impregnated by 'God'?


The short answer to both queries is no- I don't mind you asking and I don’t believe in the Virgin birth.
However, my personal beliefs  are, well, personal and I do not attempt to foist mine on others who may disagree with me.
Had advance warning been given that the sketch in question contained material that could give offence to some viewers and had a more suitable broadcast being chosen, I doubt that I would have [paid much, if any, attention to the presentation.
THe time chosen to air this sketch was a time when families throughout the country were settling down to watch the celebrations marking the change of year.  That meant that considerable numbers of elderly, devout Christains and equally huge numbers of impressionable young children would be tuned in. For once I agree with sid, when he says the purpose of the exercise was to cause offence.
I am not naive enough to think that sid is the only one who thinks there should have been no apology but he is the only one to date who has said so publicly- to te best of my knowledge.
According to what I have read on extra.ie and a number of other media outlets, over 5,000 watchers have lodged formal complaints. Not a single reference to a mention of an opposite view.
If majority rights have an meaning, you’ll find it here.

Thanks for reply.  I don't feel an apology was required as God doesn't exist for me so it was humour about a ridiculous belief - for me, of course.
I think that satire can be useful in prompting people to actually think through 'blind belief'.   People who enjoyed it had no need to let RTÉ know, only those who took offence.  My own opinion is that some people nowadays 'choose' to be offended - far too easily (not referring to you necessarily!).  I doubt if there is a 'joke' in the world that someone someplace couldn't take offence to, if they tried or wanted.  After the watershed, it is parental responsibility to decide who watches what, imo.  Having said that, I do respect your opinion on the matter.

Anyhow, on a different note and genuinely, it is a great pity that so many of the great servants to Mayo football have recently ended their county days without the medal they dreamed of.   Unlucky to come up against, so often, the greatest team that there has ever been (again, just imo!)

Sláinte na bhFear agus Contae Mhaigh Eo, nuair a éagas na Gaeil ná raibh aon duine beo!



No apology was needed. Regardless, the figure of 5,000 sounds like the more devoted  Fraternity members have learned how to fraternise on the internet and organise the outrage at some sketch which was tame by the Monty Python gold standard.of judging the boundaries of such sketches.

Anyway, the christian God is actually  more dark skinned and looks more like an image of a smiling Osama bin Laden.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rossfan on January 12, 2021, 08:35:10 PM
Lar best wishes on the health front.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on January 12, 2021, 09:50:17 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
You can call me an asshole all you want, please do

The rest of your little hypothetical dig into my background, if you were making it seriously, would constitute ad hominem abuse of my family - which would only make you look like a gigantic asshole

Why wouldn't I support Dublin, I come from Dublin

Your statement that my support for Dublin shows I "don't know my ass from my elbow" makes as much sense as if I said you don't know your ass from your elbow because you support Mayo

The basic problem you have is that you don't understand the boundaries of what is acceptable satire/comedy and hate speech, and neither do you understand the boundaries between what is acceptable opinion about a person or a belief they have, and unacceptable abuse of them based on non-chosen family background or non-chosen characteristics they may have

You'd want to watch that tendency, could be a problem for you in society

The sketch was broadcast after the watershed, it was broadcast late at night, it wasn't broadcast in the CBeebies slot

Again I find it hilarious how you invoke the Pope - surely under your own rules, that's unacceptable - well I suppose it would be if it wasn't projection, which it is

And I'm not really sure how you think I'm acting like "the Pope", given that I'm defending the right to poke fun at religion, while your whole argument here has been about how making fun of religion is off limits

Your post actually reads like Mary Whitehouse, or Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons, you even paraphrase her "won't somebody please think of the children?!" line
sid you are getting worse!
If you bother to read what I wrote, you may realise that I called you nothing of the sort.
The sketch was broadcast at a time when young an old were tuned in to watch new year's festivities, which  was mentioned by a considerable number of those who formally complained.
Your modus operandi seems to to make sweeping decorations that do not allow for any counter opinion. There is seldom any attempt to justify what you are handing down to he rest of us poor mortals.
Tell you what sid- if you can get anyone to put it in writing that your line of reasoning makes perfect sense, I will admit that I am beaten and I will rest my case,
I've consistently debated and rebutted counter opinion! That's what debate is supposed to be!

The only reasonable argument I can see from the counter side is that there should have been a warning on the segment - I didn't watch the programme live, maybe there was?

As for the actual sketch itself, neither you nor anybody else has come up with a single argument as to why it should have been apologised for

The only argument I can see against the sketch is the blasphemy one, which would be ludicrous, we're not living in JC McQuaid's Ireland anymore

Best wishes with your health problems
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 12, 2021, 10:19:54 PM
Lar best wishes on the health front.
Thanks Ross. I appreciate all the sympathy I can get nowadays.
With regard to the subject in hand, I’d like to move on to hopefully better things.
I have no strong feelings, one way or the other, about Angus Mac Grianna, Waterford Whispers or the tenets of the Holy Rooman Catholc Church.
Live and let live could be my motto.
My main gripe is that no advance warning appears to have been given that the sketch contained material that might be offensive to some and that viewer discretion was advised.
I accept this it is parents’ responsibility to oversee what their children should be allowed to watch but, AFAIK, no such advance notice was given. Had this been done, I doubt that I would have spent the last few days trying to play handball against a haystack. ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 12, 2021, 10:25:32 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
You can call me an asshole all you want, please do

The rest of your little hypothetical dig into my background, if you were making it seriously, would constitute ad hominem abuse of my family - which would only make you look like a gigantic asshole

Why wouldn't I support Dublin, I come from Dublin

Your statement that my support for Dublin shows I "don't know my ass from my elbow" makes as much sense as if I said you don't know your ass from your elbow because you support Mayo

The basic problem you have is that you don't understand the boundaries of what is acceptable satire/comedy and hate speech, and neither do you understand the boundaries between what is acceptable opinion about a person or a belief they have, and unacceptable abuse of them based on non-chosen family background or non-chosen characteristics they may have

You'd want to watch that tendency, could be a problem for you in society

The sketch was broadcast after the watershed, it was broadcast late at night, it wasn't broadcast in the CBeebies slot

Again I find it hilarious how you invoke the Pope - surely under your own rules, that's unacceptable - well I suppose it would be if it wasn't projection, which it is

And I'm not really sure how you think I'm acting like "the Pope", given that I'm defending the right to poke fun at religion, while your whole argument here has been about how making fun of religion is off limits

Your post actually reads like Mary Whitehouse, or Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons, you even paraphrase her "won't somebody please think of the children?!" line
sid you are getting worse!
If you bother to read what I wrote, you may realise that I called you nothing of the sort.
The sketch was broadcast at a time when young an old were tuned in to watch new year's festivities, which  was mentioned by a considerable number of those who formally complained.
Your modus operandi seems to to make sweeping decorations that do not allow for any counter opinion. There is seldom any attempt to justify what you are handing down to he rest of us poor mortals.
Tell you what sid- if you can get anyone to put it in writing that your line of reasoning makes perfect sense, I will admit that I am beaten and I will rest my case,
I've consistently debated and rebutted counter opinion! That's what debate is supposed to be!

The only reasonable argument I can see from the counter side is that there should have been a warning on the segment - I didn't watch the programme live, maybe there was?

As for the actual sketch itself, neither you nor anybody else has come up with a single argument as to why it should have been apologised for

The only argument I can see against the sketch is the blasphemy one, which would be ludicrous, we're not living in JC McQuaid's Ireland anymore

Best wishes with your health problems
Sincere thanks for your good wishes, sid.
However, life is too short to waste any more of it going over the same ground again and again.
Don't forget that if you can get even one half sane individual who is willing to swear that he understand what you are on about,  I wikll admit defeat gracefully.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 14, 2021, 11:42:33 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
You can call me an asshole all you want, please do

The rest of your little hypothetical dig into my background, if you were making it seriously, would constitute ad hominem abuse of my family - which would only make you look like a gigantic asshole

Why wouldn't I support Dublin, I come from Dublin

Your statement that my support for Dublin shows I "don't know my ass from my elbow" makes as much sense as if I said you don't know your ass from your elbow because you support Mayo

The basic problem you have is that you don't understand the boundaries of what is acceptable satire/comedy and hate speech, and neither do you understand the boundaries between what is acceptable opinion about a person or a belief they have, and unacceptable abuse of them based on non-chosen family background or non-chosen characteristics they may have

You'd want to watch that tendency, could be a problem for you in society

The sketch was broadcast after the watershed, it was broadcast late at night, it wasn't broadcast in the CBeebies slot

Again I find it hilarious how you invoke the Pope - surely under your own rules, that's unacceptable - well I suppose it would be if it wasn't projection, which it is

And I'm not really sure how you think I'm acting like "the Pope", given that I'm defending the right to poke fun at religion, while your whole argument here has been about how making fun of religion is off limits

Your post actually reads like Mary Whitehouse, or Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons, you even paraphrase her "won't somebody please think of the children?!" line
sid you are getting worse!
If you bother to read what I wrote, you may realise that I called you nothing of the sort.
The sketch was broadcast at a time when young an old were tuned in to watch new year's festivities, which  was mentioned by a considerable number of those who formally complained.
Your modus operandi seems to to make sweeping decorations that do not allow for any counter opinion. There is seldom any attempt to justify what you are handing down to he rest of us poor mortals.
Tell you what sid- if you can get anyone to put it in writing that your line of reasoning makes perfect sense, I will admit that I am beaten and I will rest my case,
I've consistently debated and rebutted counter opinion! That's what debate is supposed to be!

The only reasonable argument I can see from the counter side is that there should have been a warning on the segment - I didn't watch the programme live, maybe there was?

As for the actual sketch itself, neither you nor anybody else has come up with a single argument as to why it should have been apologised for

The only argument I can see against the sketch is the blasphemy one, which would be ludicrous, we're not living in JC McQuaid's Ireland anymore

Best wishes with your health problems
Sincere thanks for your good wishes, sid.
However, life is too short to waste any more of it going over the same ground again and again.
Don't forget that if you can get even one half sane individual who is willing to swear that he understand what you are on about,  I wikll admit defeat gracefully.

Níor léigh tú an rud a scríobh mé, mar sin.

Sin mar atá an saol!!!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 15, 2021, 12:36:53 AM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
You can call me an asshole all you want, please do

The rest of your little hypothetical dig into my background, if you were making it seriously, would constitute ad hominem abuse of my family - which would only make you look like a gigantic asshole

Why wouldn't I support Dublin, I come from Dublin

Your statement that my support for Dublin shows I "don't know my ass from my elbow" makes as much sense as if I said you don't know your ass from your elbow because you support Mayo

The basic problem you have is that you don't understand the boundaries of what is acceptable satire/comedy and hate speech, and neither do you understand the boundaries between what is acceptable opinion about a person or a belief they have, and unacceptable abuse of them based on non-chosen family background or non-chosen characteristics they may have

You'd want to watch that tendency, could be a problem for you in society

The sketch was broadcast after the watershed, it was broadcast late at night, it wasn't broadcast in the CBeebies slot

Again I find it hilarious how you invoke the Pope - surely under your own rules, that's unacceptable - well I suppose it would be if it wasn't projection, which it is

And I'm not really sure how you think I'm acting like "the Pope", given that I'm defending the right to poke fun at religion, while your whole argument here has been about how making fun of religion is off limits

Your post actually reads like Mary Whitehouse, or Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons, you even paraphrase her "won't somebody please think of the children?!" line
sid you are getting worse!
If you bother to read what I wrote, you may realise that I called you nothing of the sort.
The sketch was broadcast at a time when young an old were tuned in to watch new year's festivities, which  was mentioned by a considerable number of those who formally complained.
Your modus operandi seems to to make sweeping decorations that do not allow for any counter opinion. There is seldom any attempt to justify what you are handing down to he rest of us poor mortals.
Tell you what sid- if you can get anyone to put it in writing that your line of reasoning makes perfect sense, I will admit that I am beaten and I will rest my case,
I've consistently debated and rebutted counter opinion! That's what debate is supposed to be!

The only reasonable argument I can see from the counter side is that there should have been a warning on the segment - I didn't watch the programme live, maybe there was?

As for the actual sketch itself, neither you nor anybody else has come up with a single argument as to why it should have been apologised for

The only argument I can see against the sketch is the blasphemy one, which would be ludicrous, we're not living in JC McQuaid's Ireland anymore

Best wishes with your health problems
Sincere thanks for your good wishes, sid.
However, life is too short to waste any more of it going over the same ground again and again.
Don't forget that if you can get even one half sane individual who is willing to swear that he understand what you are on about,  I wikll admit defeat gracefully.

Níor léigh tú an rud a scríobh mé, mar sin.

Sin mar atá an saol!!!
Ní thuigim??
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 15, 2021, 02:57:50 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
You can call me an asshole all you want, please do

The rest of your little hypothetical dig into my background, if you were making it seriously, would constitute ad hominem abuse of my family - which would only make you look like a gigantic asshole

Why wouldn't I support Dublin, I come from Dublin

Your statement that my support for Dublin shows I "don't know my ass from my elbow" makes as much sense as if I said you don't know your ass from your elbow because you support Mayo

The basic problem you have is that you don't understand the boundaries of what is acceptable satire/comedy and hate speech, and neither do you understand the boundaries between what is acceptable opinion about a person or a belief they have, and unacceptable abuse of them based on non-chosen family background or non-chosen characteristics they may have

You'd want to watch that tendency, could be a problem for you in society

The sketch was broadcast after the watershed, it was broadcast late at night, it wasn't broadcast in the CBeebies slot

Again I find it hilarious how you invoke the Pope - surely under your own rules, that's unacceptable - well I suppose it would be if it wasn't projection, which it is

And I'm not really sure how you think I'm acting like "the Pope", given that I'm defending the right to poke fun at religion, while your whole argument here has been about how making fun of religion is off limits

Your post actually reads like Mary Whitehouse, or Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons, you even paraphrase her "won't somebody please think of the children?!" line
sid you are getting worse!
If you bother to read what I wrote, you may realise that I called you nothing of the sort.
The sketch was broadcast at a time when young an old were tuned in to watch new year's festivities, which  was mentioned by a considerable number of those who formally complained.
Your modus operandi seems to to make sweeping decorations that do not allow for any counter opinion. There is seldom any attempt to justify what you are handing down to he rest of us poor mortals.
Tell you what sid- if you can get anyone to put it in writing that your line of reasoning makes perfect sense, I will admit that I am beaten and I will rest my case,
I've consistently debated and rebutted counter opinion! That's what debate is supposed to be!

The only reasonable argument I can see from the counter side is that there should have been a warning on the segment - I didn't watch the programme live, maybe there was?

As for the actual sketch itself, neither you nor anybody else has come up with a single argument as to why it should have been apologised for

The only argument I can see against the sketch is the blasphemy one, which would be ludicrous, we're not living in JC McQuaid's Ireland anymore

Best wishes with your health problems
Sincere thanks for your good wishes, sid.
However, life is too short to waste any more of it going over the same ground again and again.
Don't forget that if you can get even one half sane individual who is willing to swear that he understand what you are on about,  I wikll admit defeat gracefully.

Níor léigh tú an rud a scríobh mé, mar sin.

Sin mar atá an saol!!!
Ní thuigim??
I understand what Sid is pontificating!!   
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 15, 2021, 04:50:59 PM
Brass Eye Paedogeddon was brilliant

But it was the most complained about television programme in UK history

Should an apology have made by C4, Lar?
I know literally nothing about this programme sid so I cant possibly give you an opinion on this one.
Edit:
Ahoy sid, are you still here?
I don't see any reason to object to the show being broadcast if plenty of advance notice had been given that some viewers might be offended by the contents.
Freedom to express one's point of view is one thing but, IMO, there is  no justification for deliberately intending to cause offence to others.
Yes there is

It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence

There is a big difference between giving deliberate offence and hate speech - which is what we don't want

So, you now see nothing wrong with the sketch - except the apparent lack of trigger warning?

But the complaints weren't about the lack of trigger warnings

Anyway, I thought trigger warnings were what so called "snowflakes" wanted - well that's how they've satirised by much of the religious right - in a painfully unfunny manner - in my opinion

Turns out that it was the religious right who were the ones who desperately wanted trigger warnings, political correctness gone mad and censorship all along

Who could have guessed they never believed a word they say

Note that I am not calling you a member of the religious right -  I have no idea of your beliefs - but you have been suckered into adopting their framing on this topic

Oh no there isn’t!
To follow your line of reasoning,  it should be perfectly okay for me to call you a thundering asshole, who comes from a long line of degenerative alcoholics and to state that your opensupport of Dublin GAA is a tacit admission that your can’t tell you ass from your elbow.
 
The fact that I don’t necessarily believe none of the above is of no consequence- as long as I  fit it all into a sketch, I can claim it’s only  a work of art so you can sod off. Following on with your logic, it is perfectly okay to present controversial items, designed to cause offence to young children without warning and at a time when minors are likely to be watching.
I never said my only complaint was the apparent lack of a trigger warning. I said plenty more besides. I have no truck with the religious right and I don’t give the proverbial fuuck about what they may or may not say- another blatant assumption by you.
“It's called comedy, it's called satire, it's called debate, it's called life - an integral part of which is offence”
Sez who?
Here’s a perfect example of your  ex cathedral proclamations. Pope sid  his throne again giving his infallible opinion on what's right or wrong.
FYI, I’ve been around longer than most and I have yet to hear of anybody else who’d agree with you on this or many other subjects for that matter.
You’re a man in a million sid. (Actually,  probably 100 million.)
You can call me an asshole all you want, please do

The rest of your little hypothetical dig into my background, if you were making it seriously, would constitute ad hominem abuse of my family - which would only make you look like a gigantic asshole

Why wouldn't I support Dublin, I come from Dublin

Your statement that my support for Dublin shows I "don't know my ass from my elbow" makes as much sense as if I said you don't know your ass from your elbow because you support Mayo

The basic problem you have is that you don't understand the boundaries of what is acceptable satire/comedy and hate speech, and neither do you understand the boundaries between what is acceptable opinion about a person or a belief they have, and unacceptable abuse of them based on non-chosen family background or non-chosen characteristics they may have

You'd want to watch that tendency, could be a problem for you in society

The sketch was broadcast after the watershed, it was broadcast late at night, it wasn't broadcast in the CBeebies slot

Again I find it hilarious how you invoke the Pope - surely under your own rules, that's unacceptable - well I suppose it would be if it wasn't projection, which it is

And I'm not really sure how you think I'm acting like "the Pope", given that I'm defending the right to poke fun at religion, while your whole argument here has been about how making fun of religion is off limits

Your post actually reads like Mary Whitehouse, or Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons, you even paraphrase her "won't somebody please think of the children?!" line
sid you are getting worse!
If you bother to read what I wrote, you may realise that I called you nothing of the sort.
The sketch was broadcast at a time when young an old were tuned in to watch new year's festivities, which  was mentioned by a considerable number of those who formally complained.
Your modus operandi seems to to make sweeping decorations that do not allow for any counter opinion. There is seldom any attempt to justify what you are handing down to he rest of us poor mortals.
Tell you what sid- if you can get anyone to put it in writing that your line of reasoning makes perfect sense, I will admit that I am beaten and I will rest my case,
I've consistently debated and rebutted counter opinion! That's what debate is supposed to be!

The only reasonable argument I can see from the counter side is that there should have been a warning on the segment - I didn't watch the programme live, maybe there was?

As for the actual sketch itself, neither you nor anybody else has come up with a single argument as to why it should have been apologised for

The only argument I can see against the sketch is the blasphemy one, which would be ludicrous, we're not living in JC McQuaid's Ireland anymore

Best wishes with your health problems
Sincere thanks for your good wishes, sid.
However, life is too short to waste any more of it going over the same ground again and again.
Don't forget that if you can get even one half sane individual who is willing to swear that he understand what you are on about,  I wikll admit defeat gracefully.

Níor léigh tú an rud a scríobh mé, mar sin.

Sin mar atá an saol!!!
Ní thuigim??
I understand what Sid is pontificating!!
You do??
Well, God between us and small farms, sid had found a kindred soul! Or has he? You may well understand what he is pontificating about but do you agree with him?
Sin ceist eile.
Remember my position is fairly simple.
The content of the sketch doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Its timing does and the fact that over 5,000 people went to the trouble of lodging an official complaint must count for something. At the time I replied to sid, he was the only dissenting voice II had come across.
The timing for me was designed to provoke controversy. To say it was broadcast late at night is only a fig leaf of an excuse. New Year’s Eve is a time for families to watch the fireworks etc. from around the world as the new year is ushered in.
That many more than the 5,00 who contacted RTE were offended is, IMO, undeniable. Nobody got in touch to back the decision o broadcast when the controversy unfolded, AFAIK. 
I pointed all this out to sid and here verbatim, is his exact reply.
“Isn't that the same logic that holds "what did Manuela Riedo expect to happen when she walked along that deserted path beside the railway line"?
The George Hook logic
Why were David Quinn and the I Own Her Institute all over #jesuischarlie and "free speech" in 2015?
And why are they the exact opposite now?
How the hell should I know or care?
 
I don’t particularly like George Hook, I respect the rights of David Quinn and his I Own Her (Iona?) Institute to say whatever they like but I am no fellow traveller and I had given no reason to declare that I was.
But associating me in any way with the poor girl who was raped and strangled as she walked home was grossly offensive.
In my opinion the #jesuischarlie craic was an exercise in futility  but, if anything, it was a massive response to what the supporters saw as an attack on the right to free speech.
That’s the side sid should support if there is any logic in what he said!”
Need I go on?
Which side are you on, by the way? Do you support the right of Mac Grianna & co. to freedom of speech and at the same time oppose the right of the #jesuischarlie brigade to exercise the same right?
 
Following my second post, sid came back with:
“I don't see a connection between Manuela Riedo's murder and the RTE sketch and already said so - so why are you saying I do? “
No, he hasn't said so- not by a country mile.  Maybe you can see some connection but I certainly cant.
How about this?
“Unprompted, seemingly from nowhere, you appeared to state that victims of assault bear some responsibility if they are assaulted - but they don't.
Do you do you think I said that?
I am inclined to rest my case and I'm stopping after only his second reply.
Maybe I should sign off with this from the pulpit stuff:
 
The self proclaimed Catholic religious right have styled themselves as so called "free speech warriors" - up to and including apologism for and outright defences of many things most reasonable people would consider hate speech - they seem to be just fine with abhorrent, extreme right-wing politics worldwide
 
Yet now they're up in arms over this sketch - which shows them up as total and utter hypocrites who do not believe a word they previously said
 
It shows them up as holding moronic opinions - they think it's fine to utter hate speech against others - but it's apparently off limits to legitimately satirise the Catholic right's religious beliefs?
 
IMO, that is take it or leave it, sid has spoken and he is infallible. Not a hint of an IMO or a reference to anything other than his imagination for his proclamations.
Now. if you agree with all of that, I have nothing more to say.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 15, 2021, 07:45:19 PM
Lár na Páirce, a chara!

Do I agree with Sid?!  As you correctly state - sin ceist eile!  I do not agree that RTÉ should have had to issue an apology. If the sketch had been this weekend, after the Mother-and-Baby-Homes Report, I doubt if Archbishop Martin would have spoken on the matter at all.

We are an Irish-speaking family.  If we felt that you are mocking our language by bastardising the spelling of Lár na Páirce, would you feel a need to apologise for the hurt caused?!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 15, 2021, 09:12:33 PM
Lár na Páirce, a chara!

Do I agree with Sid?!  As you correctly state - sin ceist eile!  I do not agree that RTÉ should have had to issue an apology. If the sketch had been this weekend, after the Mother-and-Baby-Homes Report, I doubt if Archbishop Martin would have spoken on the matter at all.

We are an Irish-speaking family.  If we felt that you are mocking our language by bastardising the spelling of Lár na Páirce, would you feel a need to apologise for the hurt caused?!
M’anam ón diabhal, you had me worried afor a while but I had made that  clear from the start when I responded to sid and the rest, as the old saying goes, is history.
The origin of my handle goes back to the day I was stuck in a pub watching a Railway Cup game on TV.
Mar is eol duit, the commentary was as Gaeilge.
The guy sitting beside me was one mean looking individual. Six feet plus and built like a tank, the tight crew cut was a giveaway. An American marine was my neighbour and I felt slightly uneasy in case he objected to my presence in any way. I had sat down before I noticed that there were empty seats on either side of him.
I felt unsettled by his presence as he sat there glued to the box. His expression never changed but I could see from his eye movements that he was following the game closely.
All the time, for the duration of the game, he did not utter a word, just signalled to the barman when he wanted a refill. The drink was neat whiskey and the refills came every ten minutes or so. Not a word all the while from mo dhuine.
I was relieved when the game ended and I went to stand up.
The yank beat me to it.
He stood up, polished off his last drink and turned to me, looking me straight in the eye.
“Friend, I don’t know what that game is about and I sure caan’t follow the lingo but I'll tell you what…”
He put down the glass and then said , “ there sure is one thing I do know and that Lar guy is one hell of a player.”
He could see that I couldn’t understand. I could sense he was a little bit annoyed so I wasn’t going to disagree with him.
“Oh, I see what you mean I said. Which Lar did you have in mind?”
He looked at me as if I was a born fool, which I felt I was and was feeling more so by each passing second.
“Which Lar,?”  sez he, “ there was only one standout player in that game and that was Lar Naparka.
Years later when I came across gaaboard, I had no problem cooking up with my handle.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rudi on January 15, 2021, 09:24:35 PM
Lár na Páirce, a chara!

Do I agree with Sid?!  As you correctly state - sin ceist eile!  I do not agree that RTÉ should have had to issue an apology. If the sketch had been this weekend, after the Mother-and-Baby-Homes Report, I doubt if Archbishop Martin would have spoken on the matter at all.

We are an Irish-speaking family.  If we felt that you are mocking our language by bastardising the spelling of Lár na Páirce, would you feel a need to apologise for the hurt caused?!
M’anam ón diabhal, you had me worried afor a while but I had made that  clear from the start when I responded to sid and the rest, as the old saying goes, is history.
The origin of my handle goes back to the day I was stuck in a pub watching a Railway Cup game on TV.
Mar is eol duit, the commentary was as Gaeilge.
The guy sitting beside me was one mean looking individual. Six feet plus and built like a tank, the tight crew cut was a giveaway. An American marine was my neighbour and I felt slightly uneasy in case he objected to my presence in any way. I had sat down before I noticed that there were empty seats on either side of him.
I felt unsettled by his presence as he sat there glued to the box. His expression never changed but I could see from his eye movements that he was following the game closely.
All the time, for the duration of the game, he did not utter a word, just signalled to the barman when he wanted a refill. The drink was neat whiskey and the refills came every ten minutes or so. Not a word all the while from mo dhuine.
I was relieved when the game ended and I went to stand up.
The yank beat me to it.
He stood up, polished off his last drink and turned to me, looking me straight in the eye.
“Friend, I don’t know what that game is about and I sure caan’t follow the lingo but I'll tell you what…”
He put down the glass and then said , “ there sure is one thing I do know and that Lar guy is one hell of a player.”
He could see that I couldn’t understand. I could sense he was a little bit annoyed so I wasn’t going to disagree with him.
“Oh, I see what you mean I said. Which Lar did you have in mind?”
He looked at me as if I was a born fool, which I felt I was and was feeling more so by each passing second.
“Which Lar,?”  sez he, “ there was only one standout player in that game and that was Lar Naparka.
Years later when I came across gaaboard, I had no problem cooking up with my handle.

Good stuff, enjoyed that and good health to you.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rossfan on January 15, 2021, 09:35:02 PM
Scéal maith a Lar ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 15, 2021, 10:00:58 PM
Lár na Páirce, a chara!

Do I agree with Sid?!  As you correctly state - sin ceist eile!  I do not agree that RTÉ should have had to issue an apology. If the sketch had been this weekend, after the Mother-and-Baby-Homes Report, I doubt if Archbishop Martin would have spoken on the matter at all.

We are an Irish-speaking family.  If we felt that you are mocking our language by bastardising the spelling of Lár na Páirce, would you feel a need to apologise for the hurt caused?!
M’anam ón diabhal, you had me worried afor a while but I had made that  clear from the start when I responded to sid and the rest, as the old saying goes, is history.
The origin of my handle goes back to the day I was stuck in a pub watching a Railway Cup game on TV.
Mar is eol duit, the commentary was as Gaeilge.
The guy sitting beside me was one mean looking individual. Six feet plus and built like a tank, the tight crew cut was a giveaway. An American marine was my neighbour and I felt slightly uneasy in case he objected to my presence in any way. I had sat down before I noticed that there were empty seats on either side of him.
I felt unsettled by his presence as he sat there glued to the box. His expression never changed but I could see from his eye movements that he was following the game closely.
All the time, for the duration of the game, he did not utter a word, just signalled to the barman when he wanted a refill. The drink was neat whiskey and the refills came every ten minutes or so. Not a word all the while from mo dhuine.
I was relieved when the game ended and I went to stand up.
The yank beat me to it.
He stood up, polished off his last drink and turned to me, looking me straight in the eye.
“Friend, I don’t know what that game is about and I sure caan’t follow the lingo but I'll tell you what…”
He put down the glass and then said , “ there sure is one thing I do know and that Lar guy is one hell of a player.”
He could see that I couldn’t understand. I could sense he was a little bit annoyed so I wasn’t going to disagree with him.
“Oh, I see what you mean I said. Which Lar did you have in mind?”
He looked at me as if I was a born fool, which I felt I was and was feeling more so by each passing second.
“Which Lar,?”  sez he, “ there was only one standout player in that game and that was Lar Naparka.
Years later when I came across gaaboard, I had no problem cooking up with my handle.
Brilliant!!  Enjoyed that one!!!  Maigh Eo abú!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JoG2 on January 15, 2021, 10:29:35 PM
Lár na Páirce, a chara!

Do I agree with Sid?!  As you correctly state - sin ceist eile!  I do not agree that RTÉ should have had to issue an apology. If the sketch had been this weekend, after the Mother-and-Baby-Homes Report, I doubt if Archbishop Martin would have spoken on the matter at all.

We are an Irish-speaking family.  If we felt that you are mocking our language by bastardising the spelling of Lár na Páirce, would you feel a need to apologise for the hurt caused?!
M’anam ón diabhal, you had me worried afor a while but I had made that  clear from the start when I responded to sid and the rest, as the old saying goes, is history.
The origin of my handle goes back to the day I was stuck in a pub watching a Railway Cup game on TV.
Mar is eol duit, the commentary was as Gaeilge.
The guy sitting beside me was one mean looking individual. Six feet plus and built like a tank, the tight crew cut was a giveaway. An American marine was my neighbour and I felt slightly uneasy in case he objected to my presence in any way. I had sat down before I noticed that there were empty seats on either side of him.
I felt unsettled by his presence as he sat there glued to the box. His expression never changed but I could see from his eye movements that he was following the game closely.
All the time, for the duration of the game, he did not utter a word, just signalled to the barman when he wanted a refill. The drink was neat whiskey and the refills came every ten minutes or so. Not a word all the while from mo dhuine.
I was relieved when the game ended and I went to stand up.
The yank beat me to it.
He stood up, polished off his last drink and turned to me, looking me straight in the eye.
“Friend, I don’t know what that game is about and I sure caan’t follow the lingo but I'll tell you what…”
He put down the glass and then said , “ there sure is one thing I do know and that Lar guy is one hell of a player.”
He could see that I couldn’t understand. I could sense he was a little bit annoyed so I wasn’t going to disagree with him.
“Oh, I see what you mean I said. Which Lar did you have in mind?”
He looked at me as if I was a born fool, which I felt I was and was feeling more so by each passing second.
“Which Lar,?”  sez he, “ there was only one standout player in that game and that was Lar Naparka.
Years later when I came across gaaboard, I had no problem cooking up with my handle.

 ;D. Brilliant Lar
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Ball Hopper on January 16, 2021, 01:37:32 AM
Great story Lar!

Best wishes on the health front as well...keep up the good spirits.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on January 16, 2021, 04:50:57 PM
Justin Thomas has had his sponsorship with Ralph Lauren cancelled because he said fa**ot when he missed a putt!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: restorepride on January 16, 2021, 06:14:05 PM
Justin Thomas has had his sponsorship with Ralph Lauren cancelled because he said fa**ot when he missed a putt!
He'll not say it again!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on January 16, 2021, 08:27:08 PM
Justin Thomas has had his sponsorship with Ralph Lauren cancelled because he said fa**ot when he missed a putt!
why don’t they let us hear what nfl and nba players are saying ? Wouldn’t be many left to cancel after a few games I’d say .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: clarshack on February 11, 2021, 02:46:24 PM
Gina Carano

A pity as I really liked her character in the Mandalorian.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 11, 2021, 03:08:47 PM
RFK Junior
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on February 11, 2021, 03:12:45 PM
Gina Carano

A pity as I really liked her character in the Mandalorian.

Pity as she was good to look at too. Some people on social media just cant help themselves though. She should have stopped over the mask issue, then she should have stopped over the trans issue, then over Trump but she kept going until it cost her her job and likely future acting carer.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2021, 07:10:16 PM
Trump's border wall.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on February 25, 2021, 09:18:31 PM
Mr and Mrs potato head
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on February 25, 2021, 10:10:35 PM
Mr and Mrs potato head
Snowflakery at its finest.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: delgany on February 25, 2021, 10:39:14 PM
Mr and Mrs potato head
Snowflakery at its finest.

Needs roasted
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on February 25, 2021, 10:54:20 PM
Lár na Páirce, a chara!

Do I agree with Sid?!  As you correctly state - sin ceist eile!  I do not agree that RTÉ should have had to issue an apology. If the sketch had been this weekend, after the Mother-and-Baby-Homes Report, I doubt if Archbishop Martin would have spoken on the matter at all.

We are an Irish-speaking family.  If we felt that you are mocking our language by bastardising the spelling of Lár na Páirce, would you feel a need to apologise for the hurt caused?!
M’anam ón diabhal, you had me worried afor a while but I had made that  clear from the start when I responded to sid and the rest, as the old saying goes, is history.
The origin of my handle goes back to the day I was stuck in a pub watching a Railway Cup game on TV.
Mar is eol duit, the commentary was as Gaeilge.
The guy sitting beside me was one mean looking individual. Six feet plus and built like a tank, the tight crew cut was a giveaway. An American marine was my neighbour and I felt slightly uneasy in case he objected to my presence in any way. I had sat down before I noticed that there were empty seats on either side of him.
I felt unsettled by his presence as he sat there glued to the box. His expression never changed but I could see from his eye movements that he was following the game closely.
All the time, for the duration of the game, he did not utter a word, just signalled to the barman when he wanted a refill. The drink was neat whiskey and the refills came every ten minutes or so. Not a word all the while from mo dhuine.
I was relieved when the game ended and I went to stand up.
The yank beat me to it.
He stood up, polished off his last drink and turned to me, looking me straight in the eye.
“Friend, I don’t know what that game is about and I sure caan’t follow the lingo but I'll tell you what…”
He put down the glass and then said , “ there sure is one thing I do know and that Lar guy is one hell of a player.”
He could see that I couldn’t understand. I could sense he was a little bit annoyed so I wasn’t going to disagree with him.
“Oh, I see what you mean I said. Which Lar did you have in mind?”
He looked at me as if I was a born fool, which I felt I was and was feeling more so by each passing second.
“Which Lar,?”  sez he, “ there was only one standout player in that game and that was Lar Naparka.
Years later when I came across gaaboard, I had no problem cooking up with my handle.

I’ve just seen this. I am I stitches here
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2021, 07:49:18 AM
Mr and Mrs potato head

What’s next? Superman? Spider-Man? Wonder Woman
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on February 26, 2021, 08:36:15 AM
Thats Super Spider and Wonder now thanks
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on February 26, 2021, 08:45:16 AM
Mr and Mrs potato head

What’s next? Superman? Spider-Man? Wonder Woman

Thought Wonder Woman was already cancelled on account of her being a former member of the terrorist organisation, the IDF.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2021, 08:46:49 AM
Mr and Mrs potato head

What’s next? Superman? Spider-Man? Wonder Woman

Thought Wonder Woman was already cancelled on account of her being a former member of the terrorist organisation, the IDF.

Just want to see who'd bite first on her... Was waiting on Angelo
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: TabClear on February 26, 2021, 09:13:57 AM
Mr and Mrs potato head
Snowflakery at its finest.

Agreed. The world has gone f**king daft with some of this PC rubbish
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on February 26, 2021, 11:46:19 AM
Mr and Mrs potato head
Snowflakery at its finest.

Agreed. The world has gone f**king daft with some of this PC rubbish
Absolutely

You can't even call a fascist a fascist anymore and the fascists lose the plot totally

Right wing politics is political correctness
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on February 26, 2021, 12:17:29 PM
Mr and Mrs potato head

What’s next? Superman? Spider-Man? Wonder Woman

Thought Wonder Woman was already cancelled on account of her being a former member of the terrorist organisation, the IDF.

Just want to see who'd bite first on her... Was waiting on Angelo

Would gladly bite on Gal Gadot any time.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on February 26, 2021, 01:04:15 PM
Mr and Mrs potato head

Controversial stuff all right.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/540537-hasbro-backtracks-on-gender-neutral-potato-head (https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/540537-hasbro-backtracks-on-gender-neutral-potato-head)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on February 26, 2021, 01:12:01 PM
Mr and Mrs potato head
Snowflakery at its finest.

Agreed. The world has gone f**king daft with some of this PC rubbish
Absolutely

You can't even call a fascist a fascist anymore and the fascists lose the plot totally

Right wing politics is political correctness

I can vouch for that. I can vouch for that because when it is quite correctly pointed out that you are bigoted, intolerant and a zealot and represent all the characteristics of a fascists, you lower the blade.

Ironically you are one of the most right wing posters on this board and try and project those traits onto more open minded individuals who believe discussion and debate is more healthy than dogmatically trying to impose your views on other.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on February 26, 2021, 01:12:36 PM
It's a little known fact that Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head were created by a Scottish Presbyterian Rangers supporter as a jibe at the victims of the Irish famine
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on February 26, 2021, 01:13:43 PM
Angel Delight has hit the bottle early today
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on February 26, 2021, 01:18:49 PM
Swastika Sid still windmilling.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on February 26, 2021, 02:38:43 PM
Mr and Mrs potato head

Controversial stuff all right.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/540537-hasbro-backtracks-on-gender-neutral-potato-head (https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/540537-hasbro-backtracks-on-gender-neutral-potato-head)
so only mr got canned ? You murdering backstabber .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on February 26, 2021, 03:46:05 PM
Mr and Mrs potato head

Controversial stuff all right.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/540537-hasbro-backtracks-on-gender-neutral-potato-head (https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/540537-hasbro-backtracks-on-gender-neutral-potato-head)
so only mr got canned ? You murdering backstabber .

I think they're keeping him.

Its just the overall brand name that's changed to the Potato Heads.

Don Rickles can rest peacefully. :)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 02, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Dr Seuss books.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 02, 2021, 08:01:21 PM
Dr Seuss books.

We've got a few of his books in the house.

None of the six in question though.

Edit: From what I’ve read about these books, both the texts and images, they won’t be much of a loss. Surprised they’ve lasted this long. They belong in the past like some of the old Disney stuff.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: seafoid on March 03, 2021, 07:25:15 AM
Dr Seuss books.

We've got a few of his books in the house.

None of the six in question though.

Edit: From what I’ve read about these books, both the texts and images, they won’t be much of a loss. Surprised they’ve lasted this long. They belong in the past like some of the old Disney stuff.

Which are the six in question ?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 03, 2021, 10:48:34 AM
Dr Seuss books.

We've got a few of his books in the house.

None of the six in question though.

Edit: From what I’ve read about these books, both the texts and images, they won’t be much of a loss. Surprised they’ve lasted this long. They belong in the past like some of the old Disney stuff.

Which are the six in question ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/6-books-nix-books-dr-seuss-works-halted-for-racist-images/2021/03/02/3ef0d434-7b4b-11eb-8c5e-32e47b42b51b_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/6-books-nix-books-dr-seuss-works-halted-for-racist-images/2021/03/02/3ef0d434-7b4b-11eb-8c5e-32e47b42b51b_story.html)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: seafoid on March 03, 2021, 01:57:04 PM
Dr Seuss books.

We've got a few of his books in the house.

None of the six in question though.

Edit: From what I’ve read about these books, both the texts and images, they won’t be much of a loss. Surprised they’ve lasted this long. They belong in the past like some of the old Disney stuff.

Which are the six in question ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/6-books-nix-books-dr-seuss-works-halted-for-racist-images/2021/03/02/3ef0d434-7b4b-11eb-8c5e-32e47b42b51b_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/6-books-nix-books-dr-seuss-works-halted-for-racist-images/2021/03/02/3ef0d434-7b4b-11eb-8c5e-32e47b42b51b_story.html)
GRMA
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 03, 2021, 06:54:08 PM
Some very, very serious allegations against an RTE virtue signaller.

The same chap is one of those at the front of cancel culture.

Quick twitter search of Eoghan McDermott will give you more detail.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 03, 2021, 07:32:21 PM









https://www.independent.ie/regionals/herald/news/eoghans-flying-flag-for-feminism-30615897.html

https://goss.ie/gallery/60138-2-60138

https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/living/2017/1020/914008-eoghan-mcdermott-on-harvey-weinstein/





Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 03, 2021, 07:44:57 PM
Very strange thread to put the above in

Would strongly imply that the poster above believes it's unfair that somebody who perpetrates the oral rape of a minor should suffer any consequences for doing so

We probably could have guessed that though
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 03, 2021, 07:57:50 PM
Very strange thread to put the above in

Would strongly imply that the poster above believes it's unfair that somebody who perpetrates the oral rape of a minor should suffer any consequences for doing so

We probably could have guessed that though

I'm not surprised you are trying to suppress discussion on this.

You don't like when you and your woke brigade are exposed as vile opportunists.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 03, 2021, 08:26:27 PM
Very strange thread to put the above in

Would strongly imply that the poster above believes it's unfair that somebody who perpetrates the oral rape of a minor should suffer any consequences for doing so

We probably could have guessed that though

I'm not surprised you are trying to suppress discussion on this.

You don't like when you and your woke brigade are exposed as vile opportunists.
But I'm not doing that at all!

Anyone who orally rapes a minor should suffer severe consequences

That's what you apparently don't want to happen, which is why you consider it "cancel culture" against the alleged perpetrator, a term that implies unfairness

You were the guy who tried to suppress discussion of historic child sex abuse at Celtic FC and the club's pathetic reaction to the independent report into such, remember?

That showed you're soft on child sex abuse when it's, at, say, a football club you support

Which means you only care about child sex abuse when somebody you don't like does it

When it happens at somewhere which makes you feel personally embarrassed, you actively try to suppress discussion

If this guy is guilty of what is alleged, he's in deep shit with the law, will do time, and rightly so

But you don't care about the victim at all - all that's on your mind is how to advance the far right politics of misogynism

Which is tragically ironic given the topic





Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 03, 2021, 08:29:15 PM
Very strange thread to put the above in

Would strongly imply that the poster above believes it's unfair that somebody who perpetrates the oral rape of a minor should suffer any consequences for doing so

We probably could have guessed that though

I'm not surprised you are trying to suppress discussion on this.

You don't like when you and your woke brigade are exposed as vile opportunists.
But I'm not doing that at all!

Anyone who orally rapes a minor should suffer severe consequences

That's what you apparently don't want to happen, which is why you consider it "cancel culture", a term that implies unfairness

You were the guy who tried to suppress discussion of historic child sex abuse at Celtic FC and the club's pathetic reaction to to the independent report into such, remember?

That showed you're soft on child sex abuse when it's, at, say, a football club you support

Which means you only care about paedophilia when somebody you don't like does it

When its at somewhere inconvenient for you, you actively try to suppress discussion

If this guy is guilty of what is alleged, he's in deep shit with the law, will do time, and rightly so

But you don't care about the victim at all - all that's on your mind is how to advance the far right politics of misogynism

Which is tragically ironic given the topic

I think it's important to show that there a lot of opportunistic men out there who like to portray themselves as really woke and feminist when they reality is they are vicious predators.

You don't seem to like me highlighting that.

Why not Sid?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 03, 2021, 08:35:46 PM
What a bizarre post, the cries for attention get ever louder

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 03, 2021, 08:40:54 PM
Let's agree for the sake of argument that there ARE a fair few out there "who like to portray themselves as really woke and feminist when the reality is they are vicious predators."

What does that prove beyond the fact that the world is full of hypocrites and arseholes?

It certainly doesn't mean that the causes of feminism and racial and social justice are illegitimate or that all or even many of those who advocate for them are opportunistic frauds.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 03, 2021, 08:45:36 PM
Let's agree for the sake of argument that there ARE a fair few out there "who like to portray themselves as really woke and feminist when the reality is they are vicious predators."

What does that prove beyond the fact that the world is full of hypocrites and arseholes?

It certainly doesn't mean that the causes of feminism and racial and social justice are illegitimate or that all or even many of those who advocate for them are opportunistic frauds.

I think the problem is the cancel culture. McDermott was at the forefront of that, trying to ruin people over innuendo and allegations when it turns out all along he was a vile predator.

We live in a very intolerant world now where for some people a difference of opinion on matters see people trying to ruin others lives over it.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 03, 2021, 08:52:56 PM
Let's agree for the sake of argument that there ARE " there who like to portray themselves as really woke and feminist when in reality is they are vicious predators."

What does that prove beyond the fact that the world is full of hypocrites and arseholes?

It certainly doesn't mean that the causes of feminism and racial and social justice are illegitimate or that all or even many of those who advocate for them are opportunistic frauds.
And this is what he is actually trying to claim!

The same guy that actively tried suppress discussion of Celtic's disgraceful response to the independent report on child sex abuse in Scottish football!

If you raised this extremely serious issue, you were, apparently, a "troll"!


Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.


Well actually I'm going by the Channel 4 News report - Channel 4 News is the best television news programme in the UK a considerable distance

They were pretty categorical that of any Scottish club, the report was by far the most damning for Celtic

But I suppose you'll now dismiss Channel 4 News

I'm just referencing you using the victims of child abuse as a vehicle to carry out your personal grievances.

I don't think it's what a balanced individual would do.


Some shocking stuff has gone on in Scottish football and in particular at Celtic. When you see that former senior manager and board member suspected issues but said nothing, I would have thought that was worth mentioning by someone on here or is that less relevant to the 10 in a row hopes and what Niel Lennon did today?

dublin7 is a noted troll.

It seems the general opinion of child sex abuse with some posters is: it depends where it happened

If it happened at an institution that is close to some poster's heart, such as, say, a football club they support, the default reaction is to try and ascribe a bad faith motive to any other poster who references it

The shoot the messenger tactic

Any poster who does that has a serious problem of bad faith, and by extension a serious problem as regards their attitude to child sex abuse

At least four posters here are now guilty of that

Amazing how we are the bad guys in all this, not Celtic FC, the SFA or anybody else. Just us.

It's not amazing, when people callously and cynically try and use child abuse victims as a vehicle for them to troll, score points and settle personal agendas of the internet then clearly they are very sad people.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 03, 2021, 08:58:07 PM
Let's agree for the sake of argument that there ARE a fair few out there "who like to portray themselves as really woke and feminist when the reality is they are vicious predators."

What does that prove beyond the fact that the world is full of hypocrites and arseholes?

It certainly doesn't mean that the causes of feminism and racial and social justice are illegitimate or that all or even many of those who advocate for them are opportunistic frauds.

I think the problem is the cancel culture. McDermott was at the forefront of that, trying to ruin people over innuendo and allegations when it turns out all along he was a vile predator.

We live in a very intolerant world now where for some people a difference of opinion on matters see people trying to ruin others lives over it.
Sure this is total hypocrisy!

You say the problem is "trying to ruin people over innuendo and allegations", when you're trying to do exactly that!

Because as of yet the story you posted is exactly that - innuendo and allegations

If the story is true, he'll go to prison

But it's comical to see somebody claim to rail against "trying to ruin people over innuendo and allegations" in the same post that where you do exactly that!

One of your favourite phrases is "lack of self awareness"  ;D ;D ;D

To be fair I think your problem goes waaaaay beyond that



Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 03, 2021, 09:08:57 PM
Very strange thread to put the above in

Would strongly imply that the poster above believes it's unfair that somebody who perpetrates the oral rape of a minor should suffer any consequences for doing so

We probably could have guessed that though

I'm not surprised you are trying to suppress discussion on this.

You don't like when you and your woke brigade are exposed as vile opportunists.
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 03, 2021, 09:17:13 PM
Eoghan McDermott being exposed as a predator has fairly rattled Sid's cage.

Full on deflection and spin mode. How Trumpian.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 03, 2021, 09:24:49 PM
Eoghan McDermott being exposed as a predator has fairly rattled Sid's cage.

Full on deflection and spin mode. How Trumpian.
How so?

I'm barely aware of Eoghan McDermott's existence, I know very little about him

And I'm really not sure what he's supposed to be to do with me, as you allege

If he's done what is alleged, he should face severe punishment under the law for it

What I do know for sure is that on this thread you accused me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

Which means that you are an utter sc**bag and mods should step in quicksmart
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 03, 2021, 09:31:55 PM
Eoghan McDermott being exposed as a predator has fairly rattled Sid's cage.

Full on deflection and spin mode. How Trumpian.
How so?

I'm barely aware of Eoghan McDermott's existence, I know very little about him

And I'm really not sure what he's supposed to be to do with me, as you allege

If he's done what is alleged, he should face severe punishment under the law for it

What I do know for sure is that on this thread you accused me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

Which means that you are an utter sc**bag and mods should step in quicksmart

Sid Vicious.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 03, 2021, 09:39:27 PM
You genuinely must be one the thickest individuals to ever lay fingers on a keyboard

Pretty Vacant would be a very apt description of you

And with extremist headcases like you around, NI will no doubt be singing God Save The Queen for a long time yet



Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 03, 2021, 10:03:30 PM
You genuinely must be one the thickest individuals to ever lay fingers on a keyboard

Pretty Vacant would be a very apt description of you

And with extremist headcases like you around, NI will no doubt be singing God Save The Queen for a long time yet
Sid, you're inflying form! ;D
You are not Evil Genius by any chance, are you?
EG hasn't been active for some time and more's the pity.  He could pack more insults into a full stop than the rest of humanity could put into a page.
He was/is a top class debater also- same as you of course.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: clarshack on March 03, 2021, 10:50:26 PM
Very strange thread to put the above in

Would strongly imply that the poster above believes it's unfair that somebody who perpetrates the oral rape of a minor should suffer any consequences for doing so

We probably could have guessed that though

I'm not surprised you are trying to suppress discussion on this.

You don't like when you and your woke brigade are exposed as vile opportunists.
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

I think you are clutching at straws there. He hasn’t accused you of that at all.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Ed Ricketts on March 03, 2021, 11:25:03 PM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: pbat on March 03, 2021, 11:30:32 PM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

Well said.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 12:14:45 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.
There's one poster to blame for it and one poster only

Nothing remotely wrong with what I've written over the last couple of pages

The other guy, not so much
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 04, 2021, 02:11:08 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+ as many as you like. The 2 have over 2600 posts this year alone!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: fearsiuil on March 04, 2021, 06:50:16 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

100% agree.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 04, 2021, 06:58:59 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.
There's one poster to blame for it and one poster only

Nothing remotely wrong with what I've written over the last couple of pages

The other guy, not so much

If you are so triggered to unleash that kind of nasty and relentless plethora of abusive posts by one poster calling out the callous and cynical way McDermott modelled himself as a champion of women's right when he was an opportunistic creep then I don't know.

This thread is about the cancel culture and it looks like a guy who is a huge player of that culture got exposed as a predator himself.

The reaction from you when the cynicism and callousness of the people who position themselves as morally superior and think it's their duty to destroy people's lives over what are sometimes trivial enough comments or actions is telling. There is nothing trivial about the allegations against McDermott, they are very serious.

And you seem to want to conflate the whole thing with personal attacks on my character.

How very Trumpian of you.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on March 04, 2021, 07:24:44 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

100% agree.

Likewise
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 04, 2021, 07:29:53 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

You're probably trying to drag me into this but I only contribute on a few threads and from what I remember you like to dish out a few insults when you have your own views challenged.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: seafoid on March 04, 2021, 07:58:39 AM
There was an article about this in the Daily Telegraph. There is a growing market for non gender toys.

https://youtu.be/bTRTsSubezE
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Franko on March 04, 2021, 08:19:43 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+1

Pathetic stuff from both.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 08:34:05 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+1

Pathetic stuff from both.
Wrong

He actually accused me of rape on the thread
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Franko on March 04, 2021, 09:08:43 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+1

Pathetic stuff from both.
Wrong

He actually accused me of rape on the thread

He didn't.  You conjured that yourself to allow yourself an excuse to get angry and continue yet another petty feud.

This has already been pointed out by other posters.

Anyway, you two fire away there, I've no interest in getting dragged into your schoolyard nonsense.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 09:13:23 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+1

Pathetic stuff from both.
Wrong

He actually accused me of rape on the thread

He didn't.  You conjured that yourself to allow yourself an excuse to get angry and continue yet another petty feud.

This has already been pointed out by other posters.

Anyway, you two fire away there, I've no interest in getting dragged into your schoolyard nonsense.
Oh he absolutely did

He clearly referenced "me" "being shown up as a vile hypocrite" in relation to an allegation of rape being made against a radio presenter

That is absolutely an allegation that I was somehow personally involved in the rape of a 16 year old

That should be an automatic permanent banning

Posters like you complain about what's happening on this forum - yet you share some of the blame for what that sc**bag has done to the forum because you enable him and refuse to call him out for his sc**bag behaviour

That's enabling

My posts have been spot on here


Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 04, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Tireseome. Absolutely f**king tiresome. On and on and on.

Ruining the board. Both of yis
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Louther on March 04, 2021, 09:24:21 AM
Last few pages been shocking. A very serious topic just turned into a clash, as usual, between two posters and both blame the other and claim innocent. On repeat in most threads they post.

The ball long gone and just a case of play the man now.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 09:26:29 AM
Only one poster is ruining the board

But enablement of that poster also ruins the board

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: South Laois man on March 04, 2021, 09:46:12 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

You're probably trying to drag me into this but I only contribute on a few threads and from what I remember you like to dish out a few insults when you have your own views challenged.
as far as I can see you are nearly on every thread.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 04, 2021, 10:08:14 AM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

You're probably trying to drag me into this but I only contribute on a few threads and from what I remember you like to dish out a few insults when you have your own views challenged.
as far as I can see you are nearly on every thread.

Nope.

I'm on about 4 or 5 threads - this one, Covid, Celtic and the Russophobia one.

That's it. I do have Sid stalking me around on other threads though because he is an intolerant bigot who will shout down anyone whose opinion differs and label them all sorts of things.

I stick to my point and frame arguments supporting them, Sid goes for insults, abuse and accusations.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JoG2 on March 04, 2021, 10:48:34 AM
Last few pages been shocking. A very serious topic just turned into a clash, as usual, between two posters and both blame the other and claim innocent. On repeat in most threads they post.

The ball long gone and just a case of play the man now.

Yes, and when you've got  a couple of toxic posters with zero self awareness, then it's the job of the mods / mod to instill some awareness.  The 2 really need to get a job. Anyone on here looking to hire a couple of men??
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Louther on March 04, 2021, 10:57:41 AM
Last few pages been shocking. A very serious topic just turned into a clash, as usual, between two posters and both blame the other and claim innocent. On repeat in most threads they post.

The ball long gone and just a case of play the man now.

Yes, and when you've got  a couple of toxic posters with zero self awareness, then it's the job of the mods / mod to instill some awareness.  The 2 really need to get a job. Anyone on here looking to hire a couple of men??

Can’t work in same location. Actually, can’t work on same shift........actually have you two sites, in different counties with different shifts.

Scrap that - does anyone have any work in space? Elon hardly posts here?  ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JoG2 on March 04, 2021, 11:00:50 AM
Last few pages been shocking. A very serious topic just turned into a clash, as usual, between two posters and both blame the other and claim innocent. On repeat in most threads they post.

The ball long gone and just a case of play the man now.

Yes, and when you've got  a couple of toxic posters with zero self awareness, then it's the job of the mods / mod to instill some awareness.  The 2 really need to get a job. Anyone on here looking to hire a couple of men??

Can’t work in same location. Actually, can’t work on same shift........actually have you two sites, in different counties with different shifts.

Scrap that - does anyone have any work in space? Elon hardly posts here?  ;D

 ;D. Be wise to hire a mediator and an entire dedicated  HR department too
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 04, 2021, 11:08:33 AM
Have a job lads.

Do ye have a job?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Snapchap on March 04, 2021, 11:10:18 AM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And to cap the above off, you have, as seems to be a general consensus from the posters on this thread, just totally fabricated a claim that another poster accused you of raping a minor.

You have proven, time and time again, that you are not above using allegations of crimes against children/attitudes to crimes against children as a means to take digs at other posters. You have today done so yet again.

Mods need to get the finger out once and for all.


P.s. Angelo, as it stands, the claims against McDermott are just that - claims. Unless he is charged and found guilty, then it's not right to spread such rumours online and to present them as fact.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 04, 2021, 11:14:20 AM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And it's also worth noting I never accused him of any of those thing he claims.



Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Louther on March 04, 2021, 11:22:05 AM
Have a job lads.

Do ye have a job?

Can I guess your job?

Mediation facilitator?

I work as a scientist in a Chinese Lab.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 11:41:39 AM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And to cap the above off, you have, as seems to be a general consensus from the posters on this thread, just totally fabricated a claim that another poster accused you of raping a minor.

You have proven, time and time again, that you are not above using allegations of crimes against children/attitudes to crimes against children as a means to take digs at other posters. You have today done so yet again.

Mods need to get the finger out once and for all.


P.s. Angelo, as it stands, the claims against McDermott are just that - claims. Unless he is charged and found guilty, then it's not right to spread such rumours online and to present them as fact.
But you're a supporter of the Provisional IRA - and all that goes with it

The Provisional IRA murdered children, their strategy, their whole modus operandi, was murder

So what I said about you is absolutely fair comment - dead children were an integral part of the PIRA's modus operandi

The subject of the PIRA is by definition an emotive one - and truths about that issue are by definition emotive and polarising - not least because the PIRA has significant support on this forum

But that's not a reason to not tell the truth

You don't like it because it's perfectly fair comment which makes you look bad - your objections are purely offence at fair comment - which are not legitimate objections whatsoever

On the other hand, I haven't fabricated anything about what Qangelo said about me or about his weasel words about other cases of child sex abuse - namely the Celtic case

On this thread, he quite clearly implied that I was involved in the rape of a 16 year old - and there is literally no other conclusion that can be drawn about what he said

He said that the allegations against Eoghan McDermott had exposed me and Eoghan McDermott as vile opportunists - but I'm not Eoghan McDermott, I don't have anything to do with him, I've barely heard of the guy

Qangelo calling McDermott a vile opportunist was directly to do with the rape allegation currently circulating against McDermott - and therefore mentioning me in the same breath was also to do with the same allegation

So that is indeed a baseless rape allegation against me

Again, that's a banning offence, and in the real world, an actual criminal offence

A lot of people on this forum, you included, need some serious home truths told to them because they're retreating into a bizarro fantasy world
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 11:45:28 AM
Have a job lads.

Do ye have a job?
You clearly don't have the ability to carry out your job properly due to the amount  of time you spend here

You said Neil Lennon deserved abuse for this exact thing





Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Snapchap on March 04, 2021, 11:50:59 AM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And to cap the above off, you have, as seems to be a general consensus from the posters on this thread, just totally fabricated a claim that another poster accused you of raping a minor.

You have proven, time and time again, that you are not above using allegations of crimes against children/attitudes to crimes against children as a means to take digs at other posters. You have today done so yet again.

Mods need to get the finger out once and for all.


P.s. Angelo, as it stands, the claims against McDermott are just that - claims. Unless he is charged and found guilty, then it's not right to spread such rumours online and to present them as fact.
But you're a supporter of the Provisional IRA - and all that goes with it

The Provisional IRA murdered children, their strategy, their whole modus operandi, was murder

So what I said about you is absolutely fair comment - dead children were an integral part of the PIRA's modus operandi

The subject of the PIRA is by definition an emotive one - and truths about that issue are by definition emotive and polarising - not least because the PIRA has significant support on this forum

But that's not a reason to not tell the truth

You don't like it because it's perfectly fair comment which makes you look bad - your objections are purely offence at fair comment - which are not legitimate objections whatsoever

On the other hand, I haven't fabricated anything about what Qangelo said about me or about his weasel words about other cases of child sex abuse - namely the Celtic case

On this thread, he quite clearly implied that I was involved in the rape of a 16 year old - and there is literally no other conclusion that can be drawn about what he said

He said that the allegations against Eoghan McDermott had exposed me and Eoghan McDermott as vile opportunists - but I'm not Eoghan McDermott, I don't have anything to do with him, I've barely heard of the guy

Qangelo calling McDermott a vile opportunist was directly to do with the rape allegation currently circulating against McDermott - and therefore mentioning me in the same breath was also to do with the same allegation

So that is indeed a baseless rape allegation against me

Again, that's a banning offence, and in the real world, an actual criminal offence

A lot of people on this forum, you included, need some serious home truths told to them because they're retreating into a bizarro fantasy world

And you refuse to condemn the Old IRA and children also suffered at their hands. Most decent people wouldn't however deduce that you therefore are "into dead children" or "support blowing children up".

Using the idea of dead children as a means to take a dig at someone on an online forum. That it YOUR modus operandi, and yours only.

And as is that isn't vile enough, you are now desperately trying to claim that another poster accused you of raping a child. I mean, even typing the phrase "raping a child" makes the skin crawl with revulsion; but you are actively USING the concept just to fabricate a reason to ban a poster you don't like.

I really do hope you get a permanent ban. There's not many about that I would term sub-human, but you really have earned the title for yourself.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 11:55:49 AM
I don't support the old IRA or glorify them, you do support the Provisional IRA and glorify and continually justify their 28 year campaign of murder

As does QAngelo, who also baselessly and maliciously implied I was a child rapist - that's an actual criminal offence in the real world

I don't have the questions to answer here, youse do

The problem here is youse don't like the hard truths

Calling another poster "sub-human" is a bannable offence, I would suggest

That's literally what the Nazis did, by the way

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 04, 2021, 11:57:32 AM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And to cap the above off, you have, as seems to be a general consensus from the posters on this thread, just totally fabricated a claim that another poster accused you of raping a minor.

You have proven, time and time again, that you are not above using allegations of crimes against children/attitudes to crimes against children as a means to take digs at other posters. You have today done so yet again.

Mods need to get the finger out once and for all.


P.s. Angelo, as it stands, the claims against McDermott are just that - claims. Unless he is charged and found guilty, then it's not right to spread such rumours online and to present them as fact.
But you're a supporter of the Provisional IRA - and all that goes with it

The Provisional IRA murdered children, their strategy, their whole modus operandi, was murder

So what I said about you is absolutely fair comment - dead children were an integral part of the PIRA's modus operandi

The subject of the PIRA is by definition an emotive one - and truths about that issue are by definition emotive and polarising - not least because the PIRA has significant support on this forum

But that's not a reason to not tell the truth

You don't like it because it's perfectly fair comment which makes you look bad - your objections are purely offence at fair comment - which are not legitimate objections whatsoever

On the other hand, I haven't fabricated anything about what Qangelo said about me or about his weasel words about other cases of child sex abuse - namely the Celtic case

On this thread, he quite clearly implied that I was involved in the rape of a 16 year old - and there is literally no other conclusion that can be drawn about what he said

He said that the allegations against Eoghan McDermott had exposed me and Eoghan McDermott as vile opportunists - but I'm not Eoghan McDermott, I don't have anything to do with him, I've barely heard of the guy

Qangelo calling McDermott a vile opportunist was directly to do with the rape allegation currently circulating against McDermott - and therefore mentioning me in the same breath was also to do with the same allegation

So that is indeed a baseless rape allegation against me

Again, that's a banning offence, and in the real world, an actual criminal offence

A lot of people on this forum, you included, need some serious home truths told to them because they're retreating into a bizarro fantasy world

The lack of self awareness by you Sid is crazy. I can't believe you've managed to get me to do this, but to stand up for Angelo, I would say if you asked 100 posters on this forum if they felt Angelo was linking you to the allegations, it would be 99 no and 1 yes.
You used to post some good points previously, but you have completely lost the run of yourself lately. You chase a few posters around the board with some demented agenda that every thread you get involved in goes to sh!te. You don't accept this, which is fine. But I'd link you back to my first statement.

A break from the board would help. Even if your correct, it's not healthy pursuing the agendas the way you do. I gave up on Angelo ages ago with regards to having a genuine debate. But you seem to seek out these heated encounters and have posted a few posts recently that were obviously put out to antagonise and start such a heated debate.

It's not healthy.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Snapchap on March 04, 2021, 11:59:45 AM
I don't support the old IRA or glorify them,

Go on then. Condemn them.

EDIT:

Scrap that. I don't wish to engage in conversation with a poster who fabricates allegations around child rape., or who accuses posters of being "into dead children".

Mods, please deal with the cretin.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 12:01:17 PM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And to cap the above off, you have, as seems to be a general consensus from the posters on this thread, just totally fabricated a claim that another poster accused you of raping a minor.

You have proven, time and time again, that you are not above using allegations of crimes against children/attitudes to crimes against children as a means to take digs at other posters. You have today done so yet again.

Mods need to get the finger out once and for all.


P.s. Angelo, as it stands, the claims against McDermott are just that - claims. Unless he is charged and found guilty, then it's not right to spread such rumours online and to present them as fact.
But you're a supporter of the Provisional IRA - and all that goes with it

The Provisional IRA murdered children, their strategy, their whole modus operandi, was murder

So what I said about you is absolutely fair comment - dead children were an integral part of the PIRA's modus operandi

The subject of the PIRA is by definition an emotive one - and truths about that issue are by definition emotive and polarising - not least because the PIRA has significant support on this forum

But that's not a reason to not tell the truth

You don't like it because it's perfectly fair comment which makes you look bad - your objections are purely offence at fair comment - which are not legitimate objections whatsoever

On the other hand, I haven't fabricated anything about what Qangelo said about me or about his weasel words about other cases of child sex abuse - namely the Celtic case

On this thread, he quite clearly implied that I was involved in the rape of a 16 year old - and there is literally no other conclusion that can be drawn about what he said

He said that the allegations against Eoghan McDermott had exposed me and Eoghan McDermott as vile opportunists - but I'm not Eoghan McDermott, I don't have anything to do with him, I've barely heard of the guy

Qangelo calling McDermott a vile opportunist was directly to do with the rape allegation currently circulating against McDermott - and therefore mentioning me in the same breath was also to do with the same allegation

So that is indeed a baseless rape allegation against me

Again, that's a banning offence, and in the real world, an actual criminal offence

A lot of people on this forum, you included, need some serious home truths told to them because they're retreating into a bizarro fantasy world

The lack of self awareness by you Sid is crazy. I can't believe you've managed to get me to do this, but to stand up for Angelo, I would say if you asked 100 posters on this forum if they felt Angelo was linking you to the allegations, it would be 99 no and 1 yes.
You used to post some good points previously, but you have completely lost the run of yourself lately. You chase a few posters around the board with some demented agenda that every thread you get involved in goes to sh!te. You don't accept this, which is fine. But I'd link you back to my first statement.

A break from the board would help. Even if your correct, it's not healthy pursuing the agendas the way you do. I gave up on Angelo ages ago with regards to having a genuine debate. But you seem to seek out these heated encounters and have posted a few posts recently that were obviously put out to antagonise and start such a heated debate.

It's not healthy.
Nobody has provided any rationale for why I am wrong in this

Not one poster, not one point

I have quite clearly and logically spelled out exactly what that poster did - and in the real world it is a criminal offence

Truth doesn't care about your feelings



Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 04, 2021, 12:08:17 PM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And to cap the above off, you have, as seems to be a general consensus from the posters on this thread, just totally fabricated a claim that another poster accused you of raping a minor.

You have proven, time and time again, that you are not above using allegations of crimes against children/attitudes to crimes against children as a means to take digs at other posters. You have today done so yet again.

Mods need to get the finger out once and for all.


P.s. Angelo, as it stands, the claims against McDermott are just that - claims. Unless he is charged and found guilty, then it's not right to spread such rumours online and to present them as fact.
But you're a supporter of the Provisional IRA - and all that goes with it

The Provisional IRA murdered children, their strategy, their whole modus operandi, was murder

So what I said about you is absolutely fair comment - dead children were an integral part of the PIRA's modus operandi

The subject of the PIRA is by definition an emotive one - and truths about that issue are by definition emotive and polarising - not least because the PIRA has significant support on this forum

But that's not a reason to not tell the truth

You don't like it because it's perfectly fair comment which makes you look bad - your objections are purely offence at fair comment - which are not legitimate objections whatsoever

On the other hand, I haven't fabricated anything about what Qangelo said about me or about his weasel words about other cases of child sex abuse - namely the Celtic case

On this thread, he quite clearly implied that I was involved in the rape of a 16 year old - and there is literally no other conclusion that can be drawn about what he said

He said that the allegations against Eoghan McDermott had exposed me and Eoghan McDermott as vile opportunists - but I'm not Eoghan McDermott, I don't have anything to do with him, I've barely heard of the guy

Qangelo calling McDermott a vile opportunist was directly to do with the rape allegation currently circulating against McDermott - and therefore mentioning me in the same breath was also to do with the same allegation

So that is indeed a baseless rape allegation against me

Again, that's a banning offence, and in the real world, an actual criminal offence

A lot of people on this forum, you included, need some serious home truths told to them because they're retreating into a bizarro fantasy world

The lack of self awareness by you Sid is crazy. I can't believe you've managed to get me to do this, but to stand up for Angelo, I would say if you asked 100 posters on this forum if they felt Angelo was linking you to the allegations, it would be 99 no and 1 yes.
You used to post some good points previously, but you have completely lost the run of yourself lately. You chase a few posters around the board with some demented agenda that every thread you get involved in goes to sh!te. You don't accept this, which is fine. But I'd link you back to my first statement.

A break from the board would help. Even if your correct, it's not healthy pursuing the agendas the way you do. I gave up on Angelo ages ago with regards to having a genuine debate. But you seem to seek out these heated encounters and have posted a few posts recently that were obviously put out to antagonise and start such a heated debate.

It's not healthy.
Nobody has provided any rationale for why I am wrong in this

Not one poster, not one point

I have quite clearly and logically spelled out exactly what that poster did - and in the real world it is a criminal offence

Truth doesn't care about your feelings

I'm not here to change your opinion. I didn't expect you would. But just to advise you to be more aware that if everyone else is of one opinion, and your the only one with the opposite, it might be worth a harder look. Anyway do, don't, I don't care. It was genuinely meant as some advise. As I said earlier, even if your right on the points your arguing, I don't think all the negativity is healthy, even if it's just an on line forum. 
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 12:08:59 PM
I don't support the old IRA or glorify them,

Go on then. Condemn them.
This is pathetic carry on from you now

You are the person with questions to answer, not me, because you are the person that glorifies the PIRA, I don't glorify the old IRA

But the thing is - it's too late for you to answer, because you already answered long ago

Because you have continually supported the actions of the PIRA and thus my comments about you are entirely fair

Do you glorify the old IRA?

Would seem strange that you wouldn't, given that you glorify the PIRA

Yet suddenly you're now appearing to back yourself into a position where you were anti-old IRA?  ;D

Bizarrer and bizarrer
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 12:11:38 PM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And to cap the above off, you have, as seems to be a general consensus from the posters on this thread, just totally fabricated a claim that another poster accused you of raping a minor.

You have proven, time and time again, that you are not above using allegations of crimes against children/attitudes to crimes against children as a means to take digs at other posters. You have today done so yet again.

Mods need to get the finger out once and for all.


P.s. Angelo, as it stands, the claims against McDermott are just that - claims. Unless he is charged and found guilty, then it's not right to spread such rumours online and to present them as fact.
But you're a supporter of the Provisional IRA - and all that goes with it

The Provisional IRA murdered children, their strategy, their whole modus operandi, was murder

So what I said about you is absolutely fair comment - dead children were an integral part of the PIRA's modus operandi

The subject of the PIRA is by definition an emotive one - and truths about that issue are by definition emotive and polarising - not least because the PIRA has significant support on this forum

But that's not a reason to not tell the truth

You don't like it because it's perfectly fair comment which makes you look bad - your objections are purely offence at fair comment - which are not legitimate objections whatsoever

On the other hand, I haven't fabricated anything about what Qangelo said about me or about his weasel words about other cases of child sex abuse - namely the Celtic case

On this thread, he quite clearly implied that I was involved in the rape of a 16 year old - and there is literally no other conclusion that can be drawn about what he said

He said that the allegations against Eoghan McDermott had exposed me and Eoghan McDermott as vile opportunists - but I'm not Eoghan McDermott, I don't have anything to do with him, I've barely heard of the guy

Qangelo calling McDermott a vile opportunist was directly to do with the rape allegation currently circulating against McDermott - and therefore mentioning me in the same breath was also to do with the same allegation

So that is indeed a baseless rape allegation against me

Again, that's a banning offence, and in the real world, an actual criminal offence

A lot of people on this forum, you included, need some serious home truths told to them because they're retreating into a bizarro fantasy world

The lack of self awareness by you Sid is crazy. I can't believe you've managed to get me to do this, but to stand up for Angelo, I would say if you asked 100 posters on this forum if they felt Angelo was linking you to the allegations, it would be 99 no and 1 yes.
You used to post some good points previously, but you have completely lost the run of yourself lately. You chase a few posters around the board with some demented agenda that every thread you get involved in goes to sh!te. You don't accept this, which is fine. But I'd link you back to my first statement.

A break from the board would help. Even if your correct, it's not healthy pursuing the agendas the way you do. I gave up on Angelo ages ago with regards to having a genuine debate. But you seem to seek out these heated encounters and have posted a few posts recently that were obviously put out to antagonise and start such a heated debate.

It's not healthy.
Nobody has provided any rationale for why I am wrong in this

Not one poster, not one point

I have quite clearly and logically spelled out exactly what that poster did - and in the real world it is a criminal offence

Truth doesn't care about your feelings

I'm not here to change your opinion. I didn't expect you would. But just to advise you to be more aware that if everyone else is of one opinion, and your the only one with the opposite, it might be worth a harder look. Anyway do, don't, I don't care. It was genuinely meant as some advise. As I said earlier, even if your right on the points your arguing, I don't think all the negativity is healthy, even if it's just an on line forum.
It's not an opinion that Qangelo maliciously and baselessly implied I was a child rapist

It is fact

And it's a criminal offence to do that in the real world

Anybody who "supports" Angelo in that is as bad

We're seeing the true colours of several posters emerge here
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 04, 2021, 12:17:58 PM
Just a heads up to mods (I've reported it also) that Angelo is quite clearly accusing me of being involved in the oral rape of a minor

And that should be an automatic banning offence, no questions asked

Whoever is behind the Angelo account is clearly a horrible individual, and I 100% mean that

And just a heads up that you have on different occasions, accused me of being "into dead children" and "supporting killing children".

I'd say that's worthy of a permanent ban too. Yet here you still are.

And to cap the above off, you have, as seems to be a general consensus from the posters on this thread, just totally fabricated a claim that another poster accused you of raping a minor.

You have proven, time and time again, that you are not above using allegations of crimes against children/attitudes to crimes against children as a means to take digs at other posters. You have today done so yet again.

Mods need to get the finger out once and for all.


P.s. Angelo, as it stands, the claims against McDermott are just that - claims. Unless he is charged and found guilty, then it's not right to spread such rumours online and to present them as fact.
But you're a supporter of the Provisional IRA - and all that goes with it

The Provisional IRA murdered children, their strategy, their whole modus operandi, was murder

So what I said about you is absolutely fair comment - dead children were an integral part of the PIRA's modus operandi

The subject of the PIRA is by definition an emotive one - and truths about that issue are by definition emotive and polarising - not least because the PIRA has significant support on this forum

But that's not a reason to not tell the truth

You don't like it because it's perfectly fair comment which makes you look bad - your objections are purely offence at fair comment - which are not legitimate objections whatsoever

On the other hand, I haven't fabricated anything about what Qangelo said about me or about his weasel words about other cases of child sex abuse - namely the Celtic case

On this thread, he quite clearly implied that I was involved in the rape of a 16 year old - and there is literally no other conclusion that can be drawn about what he said

He said that the allegations against Eoghan McDermott had exposed me and Eoghan McDermott as vile opportunists - but I'm not Eoghan McDermott, I don't have anything to do with him, I've barely heard of the guy

Qangelo calling McDermott a vile opportunist was directly to do with the rape allegation currently circulating against McDermott - and therefore mentioning me in the same breath was also to do with the same allegation

So that is indeed a baseless rape allegation against me

Again, that's a banning offence, and in the real world, an actual criminal offence

A lot of people on this forum, you included, need some serious home truths told to them because they're retreating into a bizarro fantasy world

The lack of self awareness by you Sid is crazy. I can't believe you've managed to get me to do this, but to stand up for Angelo, I would say if you asked 100 posters on this forum if they felt Angelo was linking you to the allegations, it would be 99 no and 1 yes.
You used to post some good points previously, but you have completely lost the run of yourself lately. You chase a few posters around the board with some demented agenda that every thread you get involved in goes to sh!te. You don't accept this, which is fine. But I'd link you back to my first statement.

A break from the board would help. Even if your correct, it's not healthy pursuing the agendas the way you do. I gave up on Angelo ages ago with regards to having a genuine debate. But you seem to seek out these heated encounters and have posted a few posts recently that were obviously put out to antagonise and start such a heated debate.

It's not healthy.
Nobody has provided any rationale for why I am wrong in this

Not one poster, not one point

I have quite clearly and logically spelled out exactly what that poster did - and in the real world it is a criminal offence

Truth doesn't care about your feelings

I'm not here to change your opinion. I didn't expect you would. But just to advise you to be more aware that if everyone else is of one opinion, and your the only one with the opposite, it might be worth a harder look. Anyway do, don't, I don't care. It was genuinely meant as some advise. As I said earlier, even if your right on the points your arguing, I don't think all the negativity is healthy, even if it's just an on line forum.
It's not an opinion that Qangelo maliciously and baselessly implied I was a child rapist

It is fact

And it's a criminal offence to do that in the real world

Anybody who "supports" Angelo in that is as bad

We're seeing the true colours of several posters emerge here

Dead on.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 04, 2021, 12:40:47 PM
Is Sid saying he is Eoghan McDermott here?

I did not know he was.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Keyser soze on March 04, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
Two mad bastards.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Franko on March 04, 2021, 01:22:08 PM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+1

Pathetic stuff from both.
Wrong

He actually accused me of rape on the thread

He didn't.  You conjured that yourself to allow yourself an excuse to get angry and continue yet another petty feud.

This has already been pointed out by other posters.

Anyway, you two fire away there, I've no interest in getting dragged into your schoolyard nonsense.
Oh he absolutely did

He clearly referenced "me" "being shown up as a vile hypocrite" in relation to an allegation of rape being made against a radio presenter

That is absolutely an allegation that I was somehow personally involved in the rape of a 16 year old

That should be an automatic permanent banning

Posters like you complain about what's happening on this forum - yet you share some of the blame for what that sc**bag has done to the forum because you enable him and refuse to call him out for his sc**bag behaviour

That's enabling

My posts have been spot on here

I'm sorry sid, but the only people on on here that think that you are any different to him are.... you and him.

So I'll repeat my earlier point.

Pathetic stuff from both.

I'll leave it at that, lest I get accused by the other looney of enabling you.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 01:31:30 PM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+1

Pathetic stuff from both.
Wrong

He actually accused me of rape on the thread

He didn't.  You conjured that yourself to allow yourself an excuse to get angry and continue yet another petty feud.

This has already been pointed out by other posters.

Anyway, you two fire away there, I've no interest in getting dragged into your schoolyard nonsense.
Oh he absolutely did

He clearly referenced "me" "being shown up as a vile hypocrite" in relation to an allegation of rape being made against a radio presenter

That is absolutely an allegation that I was somehow personally involved in the rape of a 16 year old

That should be an automatic permanent banning

Posters like you complain about what's happening on this forum - yet you share some of the blame for what that sc**bag has done to the forum because you enable him and refuse to call him out for his sc**bag behaviour

That's enabling

My posts have been spot on here

I'm sorry sid, but the only people on on here that think that you are any different to him are.... you and him.

So I'll repeat my earlier point.

Pathetic stuff from both.

I'll leave it at that, lest I get accused by the other looney of enabling you.
None of this is an argument from you - you are not arguing with my points

And your false equivalence bluster is indeed enablement of the lunatic

This thread is very instructive as to how fake news and disinformation spreads, and demagogues thrive

They thrive because they are enabled - and those who have the guts to stand up to them and expose the for what they are get vilified and branded as equivalent

The DUP enabling Loyalist terrorists because "at least they're not Catholics" and their support sees it that way too, and they dare not lose their support - is an example of this mindset

Total moral bankruptcy

Exact same phenomenon at play here
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Franko on March 04, 2021, 01:56:31 PM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+1

Pathetic stuff from both.
Wrong

He actually accused me of rape on the thread

He didn't.  You conjured that yourself to allow yourself an excuse to get angry and continue yet another petty feud.

This has already been pointed out by other posters.

Anyway, you two fire away there, I've no interest in getting dragged into your schoolyard nonsense.
Oh he absolutely did

He clearly referenced "me" "being shown up as a vile hypocrite" in relation to an allegation of rape being made against a radio presenter

That is absolutely an allegation that I was somehow personally involved in the rape of a 16 year old

That should be an automatic permanent banning

Posters like you complain about what's happening on this forum - yet you share some of the blame for what that sc**bag has done to the forum because you enable him and refuse to call him out for his sc**bag behaviour

That's enabling

My posts have been spot on here

I'm sorry sid, but the only people on on here that think that you are any different to him are.... you and him.

So I'll repeat my earlier point.

Pathetic stuff from both.

I'll leave it at that, lest I get accused by the other looney of enabling you.
None of this is an argument from you - you are not arguing with my points

And your false equivalence bluster is indeed enablement of the lunatic

This thread is very instructive as to how fake news and disinformation spreads, and demagogues thrive

They thrive because they are enabled - and those who have the guts to stand up to them and expose the for what they are get vilified and branded as equivalent

The DUP enabling Loyalist terrorists because "at least they're not Catholics" and their support sees it that way too, and they dare not lose their support - is an example of this mindset

Total moral bankruptcy

Exact same phenomenon at play here

That because I've no interest in arguing with you.

I have my opinion - you say it's wrong.

That's fine - I don't really care.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2021, 03:17:54 PM
"I've no interest in arguing with you"

*continues arguing*
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 04, 2021, 04:06:47 PM
"I've no interest in arguing with you"

*continues arguing*
;D You've been around here a long time Gab!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Franko on March 04, 2021, 04:29:45 PM
Got sucked into the whirlpool...  took me 3 goes to get out
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 04, 2021, 04:35:02 PM
Got sucked into the whirlpool...  took me 3 goes to get out
Try a Hotpoint next time, they generally don't work
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 04, 2021, 04:43:40 PM
The stuff on the last couple of pages of this thread is poisonous shite that no one wants to read.

Petty, repugnant flame wars waged by self obsessed, attention craving c***ts not only bore the shite out of the rest of us, but destroy the opportunity for others to develop a real discussion.

And this crap isn't just contained here, it's flung all over the board to the extent that practically every popular thread reeks of it.

If our new mod is going to let things like this fly then the board is as good as done. Moderating an internet forum is about cultivating an environment that encourages contributors to produce the content for which we're all here. The environment about this place at the minute is toxic and inhospitable.

+1

Pathetic stuff from both.
Wrong

He actually accused me of rape on the thread

Where did he do that?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 04, 2021, 04:47:13 PM
Have a job lads.

Do ye have a job?
You clearly don't have the ability to carry out your job properly due to the amount  of time you spend here

You said Neil Lennon deserved abuse for this exact thing

Oh wow. Really???
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Franko on March 04, 2021, 05:05:55 PM
Got sucked into the whirlpool...  took me 3 goes to get out
Try a Hotpoint next time, they generally don't work

Reported
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 04, 2021, 06:31:32 PM
Let's agree for the sake of argument that there ARE a fair few out there "who like to portray themselves as really woke and feminist when the reality is they are vicious predators."

What does that prove beyond the fact that the world is full of hypocrites and arseholes?

It certainly doesn't mean that the causes of feminism and racial and social justice are illegitimate or that all or even many of those who advocate for them are opportunistic frauds.
saw a quote by someone who said it’s a weird world when dr Seuss is canceled the muppet show comes with a warning but most of the same crowd are cheering for wet ass pussy as song of the year , I know which side I’d like teaching my kids .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 04, 2021, 07:15:45 PM
Dr Seuss hasn’t really been cancelled tho has he
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on March 04, 2021, 07:22:01 PM
From the Rules at the top of the board:

9. 'Feuds'.
    On occasion, two or more posters become fixated with annoying each other, without necessarily descending into personal abuse per se. However this behaviour is very disruptive to whatever thread it breaks out it, and causes threads to be taken over by tit for tat insults. In a case such as this, a moderator may post a public and private warning for both posters to completely ignore the other, refraining from referring to, directing comments at, or answering the other poster. Disregarding this warning will result in a ban.

   Penalties - 1st offence after warning - 2 Days, 2nd Offence - 10 Days, Subsequent Offences - Recurring 15 Day bans.

Since both Angelo and Sid have served recent 2-day bans, the next level is a 10-day ban.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 04, 2021, 07:30:15 PM
I think i speak for everyone when i say hallefuckinlujah
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 04, 2021, 07:32:34 PM
"Cushioned header to gaaboardmod5555555555555"

"Ohhhhhh you beauty"
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
Dr Seuss hasn’t really been cancelled tho has he

Don't let facts get in the way of a Fox News vomit session
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 04, 2021, 08:20:32 PM
Dr Seuss hasn’t really been cancelled tho has he

Don't let facts get in the way of a Fox News vomit session
the usual waps rushing to defend cancel culture
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
like you'd know what a wap is
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 04, 2021, 08:25:38 PM
Jesus dont you two start
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2021, 08:26:52 PM
you can quit yo jibbajabba
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 04, 2021, 08:36:53 PM
Dr Seuss hasn’t really been cancelled tho has he

Don't let facts get in the way of a Fox News vomit session
the usual waps rushing to defend cancel culture

1. What’s a WAP
2. Who’s defending it
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 04, 2021, 08:52:17 PM
Hopefully it was meant to be wab. Love that word
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2021, 09:10:55 PM
This is the drivel that gmac reads and regurgitates on here


Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 04, 2021, 09:30:41 PM
This is the drivel that gmac reads and regurgitates on here



i never heard of her to be honest but she makes a point .I don’t watch much Fox News either which seems to be thrown at me every time I post , I guess a clever fellow like you watches cnn or msnbc which spin lies about Russian collusion for 4 years and covered up for a clearly ailing presidential candidate joe Biden and is now covering up for his rapid mental decline . You probably loved the cuomo brothers interviews too and believed that 50k blm protests don’t spread covid just Trump rallies do that
Florida did a terrible job with covid but cuomo was terrific, I could go on all day .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on March 04, 2021, 09:50:59 PM
This is the drivel that gmac reads and regurgitates on here




I've never heard the song or read the book, but I'm willing to bet that the one on the left is not, in fact, the work of Dr. Seuss, Despite Ms. Bish's claims to the contrary.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
i never heard of her to be honest but she makes a point .I don’t watch much Fox News either which seems to be thrown at me every time I post , I guess a clever fellow like you watches cnn or msnbc which spin lies about Russian collusion for 4 years and covered up for a clearly ailing presidential candidate joe Biden and is now covering up for his rapid mental decline . You probably loved the cuomo brothers interviews too and believed that 50k blm protests don’t spread covid just Trump rallies do that
Florida did a terrible job with covid but cuomo was terrific, I could go on all day .


Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 04, 2021, 10:03:31 PM
i never heard of her to be honest but she makes a point .I don’t watch much Fox News either which seems to be thrown at me every time I post , I guess a clever fellow like you watches cnn or msnbc which spin lies about Russian collusion for 4 years and covered up for a clearly ailing presidential candidate joe Biden and is now covering up for his rapid mental decline . You probably loved the cuomo brothers interviews too and believed that 50k blm protests don’t spread covid just Trump rallies do that
Florida did a terrible job with covid but cuomo was terrific, I could go on all day .



exactly ice up son
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2021, 10:42:29 PM
wise up to what?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 05, 2021, 01:45:45 AM
Dr Seuss hasn’t really been cancelled tho has he

Don't let facts get in the way of a Fox News vomit session
the usual waps rushing to defend cancel culture

Leaving aside the fact that Dr Seuss has not been canceled, that in reality his estate or trust or whatever has discontinued publishing six of his books, do you think there is no merit to their decision?

Will you be reading the offensive Asian and black stereotypes to your kids or grandkids?

Do you show them 19th century Punch cartoon depictions of Irish people?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 05, 2021, 02:06:42 AM
Dr Seuss hasn’t really been cancelled tho has he

Don't let facts get in the way of a Fox News vomit session
the usual waps rushing to defend cancel culture

Leaving aside the fact that Dr Seuss has not been canceled, that in reality his estate or trust or whatever has discontinued publishing six of his books, do you think there is no merit to their decision?

Will you be reading the offensive Asian and black stereotypes to your kids or grandkids?

Do you show them 19th century Punch cartoon depictions of Irish people?
mein kampf is still available on Amazon is that ok ?
Pretty much every rap song is ni&&er this or ho that where are the feminists and cancel culture for that.I’m not worried about how Irish were portrayed 150 years ago
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 05, 2021, 07:47:48 AM
That would be a yes then
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on March 05, 2021, 07:52:57 AM
2021 logic.

Bad
Mr Potato Head
Dr Seuss
The Weakest Link

Good
Cardi B - WAP
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 05, 2021, 11:49:25 AM
Dr Seuss hasn’t really been cancelled tho has he

Don't let facts get in the way of a Fox News vomit session
the usual waps rushing to defend cancel culture

Leaving aside the fact that Dr Seuss has not been canceled, that in reality his estate or trust or whatever has discontinued publishing six of his books, do you think there is no merit to their decision?

Will you be reading the offensive Asian and black stereotypes to your kids or grandkids?

Do you show them 19th century Punch cartoon depictions of Irish people?
mein kampf is still available on Amazon is that ok ?
Pretty much every rap song is ni&&er this or ho that where are the feminists and cancel culture for that.I’m not worried about how Irish were portrayed 150 years ago

You didn’t answer the question.

Is Mein Kampf a kids book?

Would you be outraged if those who owned the rights decided to pull that book?

Leaving aside the issue of the use of n-word in black culture (I’m happy to discuss that if you want), do you stick adult versions of rap songs on the car radio for your kids?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 05, 2021, 11:51:56 AM
2021 logic.

Bad
Mr Potato Head
Dr Seuss
The Weakest Link

Good
Cardi B - WAP

Mr Potato Head is still being sold and will continue to be.

Dr Seuss published more than 60 kids books. Only six are being pulled by his trust.

I’ve no idea what the Weakest Link problem is.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on March 05, 2021, 01:19:58 PM
2021 logic.

Bad
Mr Potato Head
Dr Seuss
The Weakest Link

Good
Cardi B - WAP

Mr Potato Head is still being sold and will continue to be.

Dr Seuss published more than 60 kids books. Only six are being pulled by his trust.

I’ve no idea what the Weakest Link problem is.

You should look into what the woke kids have to say about the weskest link. They want Anne Robinsons countdown gig to be took off her.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 05, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
2021 logic.

Bad
Mr Potato Head
Dr Seuss
The Weakest Link

Good
Cardi B - WAP

Mr Potato Head is still being sold and will continue to be.

Dr Seuss published more than 60 kids books. Only six are being pulled by his trust.

I’ve no idea what the Weakest Link problem is.

You should look into what the woke kids have to say about the weskest link. They want Anne Robinsons countdown gig to be took off her.

I just did. Saw a clip of her shaming a single mother on benefits.

Supposedly her schtick was to try to throw people off their game.

Seems fair game for criticism to me. Let Robinson come out and explain herself. She made a huge amount of money through her caustic on-air personality. And Countdown is aimed at the university-student demographic. Its not a Fox News gig.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2021, 03:51:27 PM
The people coming on her shows know what they are going to get.. the producers of those shows have obviously wanted that reaction otherwise they would hire someone else. Its not her that's at fault, its the makers of the shows that hire her.

Personally I couldn't care less if she's 'cancelled' but we could shift through some shite on anyone and ban them too, this 'crusade' is a bit of a McCarthy witch hunt!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 05, 2021, 04:04:31 PM
The people coming on her shows know what they are going to get.. the producers of those shows have obviously wanted that reaction otherwise they would hire someone else. Its not her that's at fault, its the makers of the shows that hire her.

Personally I couldn't care less if she's 'cancelled' but we could shift through some shite on anyone and ban them too, this 'crusade' is a bit of a McCarthy witch hunt!

I don't care either.

My point is that she found a lot of success through that personality and expressing those views, whether it was genuine or an act. What brought her great fame and fortune back then may have negative repercussions for her now.

If the audience for Countdown doesn't like what she did and thinks someone else should have the job, they're perfectly entitled to voice those opinions and, if they see fit, boycott the show. Its up to the producers to decide whether its worth it to go with Robinson (and it might well be, ratings-wise).
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 05, 2021, 04:10:37 PM
That would be a yes then
my kids go to school and play sports with Asian,  black , Latino , Polynesian kids every day of the week they make up their own minds and judge people one at a time .
Calling 74m people who voted for a republican candidate white supremacists is much more dangerous and damaging to kids and it’s on tv practically every day with no push back .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 05, 2021, 04:22:42 PM
That would be a yes then
my kids go to school and play sports with Asian,  black , Latino , Polynesian kids every day of the week they make up their own minds and judge people one at a time .
Calling 74m people who voted for a republican candidate white supremacists is much more dangerous and damaging to kids and it’s on tv practically every day with no push back .

Sounds terribly like the old ‘I have black friends therefore...’ argument
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 05, 2021, 04:38:28 PM
That would be a yes then
my kids go to school and play sports with Asian,  black , Latino , Polynesian kids every day of the week they make up their own minds and judge people one at a time .
Calling 74m people who voted for a republican candidate white supremacists is much more dangerous and damaging to kids and it’s on tv practically every day with no push back .

Sounds terribly like the old ‘I have black friends therefore...’ argument
not as many as you probably, where do you live ?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2021, 05:51:36 PM
The people coming on her shows know what they are going to get.. the producers of those shows have obviously wanted that reaction otherwise they would hire someone else. Its not her that's at fault, its the makers of the shows that hire her.

Personally I couldn't care less if she's 'cancelled' but we could shift through some shite on anyone and ban them too, this 'crusade' is a bit of a McCarthy witch hunt!

I don't care either.

My point is that she found a lot of success through that personality and expressing those views, whether it was genuine or an act. What brought her great fame and fortune back then may have negative repercussions for her now.

If the audience for Countdown doesn't like what she did and thinks someone else should have the job, they're perfectly entitled to voice those opinions and, if they see fit, boycott the show. Its up to the producers to decide whether its worth it to go with Robinson (and it might well be, ratings-wise).

The producers did decide, its them that hire based on how they see the show going, countdown isn’t for the cancelled crowd anyhow. If she didn’t work tomorrow she wouldn’t be missed nor would she need the money I’d imagine.

You hire someone like her or that other clampit from Who wants to be a millionaire (can’t even think his name) then you are hiring because of their personality be it fake or real
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 05, 2021, 06:22:35 PM
2021 logic.

Bad
Mr Potato Head
Dr Seuss
The Weakest Link

Good
Cardi B - WAP

Who is currently praising a rap song that was released 8 months ago?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on March 06, 2021, 10:13:18 AM
2021 logic.

Bad
Mr Potato Head
Dr Seuss
The Weakest Link

Good
Cardi B - WAP

Who is currently praising a rap song that was released 8 months ago?

OK, let me change that to late 2020/early 2021 logic, or logic of the last 12 months, logic of the modern world, or whatever you want.
I found articles there from October which is only 5 months ago.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 06, 2021, 04:03:18 PM
Still missing the who part of that answer.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 06, 2021, 04:13:51 PM
That would be a yes then
my kids go to school and play sports with Asian,  black , Latino , Polynesian kids every day of the week they make up their own minds and judge people one at a time .
Calling 74m people who voted for a republican candidate white supremacists is much more dangerous and damaging to kids and it’s on tv practically every day with no push back .

Sounds terribly like the old ‘I have black friends therefore...’ argument
not as many as you probably, where do you live ?

Lurgan. I’m sure you think you have a point here
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on March 06, 2021, 08:14:11 PM
Still missing the who part of that answer.

https://studybreaks.com/culture/music/wap-cardi-megan/ (https://studybreaks.com/culture/music/wap-cardi-megan/)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/10/cardi-b-and-megan-thee-stallion-wap-most-popular-song-to-have-sex-to-14056758/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/02/10/cardi-b-and-megan-thee-stallion-wap-most-popular-song-to-have-sex-to-14056758/amp/)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 06, 2021, 08:30:54 PM
Adults saying that a song about sex is the best song to have sex to shocker



Keep up the good stuff
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 07, 2021, 06:34:12 PM
Mumford and son
Pepe le pew
Speedy Gonzales
All on the hit list
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 07, 2021, 07:15:40 PM
Mumford and son
Pepe le pew
Speedy Gonzales
All on the hit list

Right, because right wingers don’t lose their minds when some liberal singer endorses some political cause.

They went on a feeding frenzy last month when Bruce Springsteen was outed on a bullshit drink driving charge just because he had the audacity to make a non-offensive Super Bowl ad for Jeep advocating for a retreat from the poisonous public discourse driven by Trump.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 07, 2021, 07:47:54 PM
yer man is the biggest snowflake on here
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: trileacman on March 07, 2021, 08:42:10 PM
There'll be a time in the future when this is all viewed as knee jerk McCarthyism.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 08, 2021, 11:04:45 AM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Taylor on March 08, 2021, 11:31:56 AM
Maybe some of our US friends can tell us what way the media are reacting over there?

Bound to be Philip asking about the colour of the baby wasnt it
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on March 08, 2021, 12:24:10 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: trailer on March 08, 2021, 12:30:14 PM
The whole thing is exactly why Royal families should be completely outlawed everywhere. I do feel sorry for her but part of me thinks, like what the f**k did you expect Meghan?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 08, 2021, 12:43:26 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

Harry is a racist but he married a woman who is half-black?

On the Nazi accusation - is this in reference to the Nazi costume years ago? (I'm not exposed to the day-to-day royal stuff where I live)

If so, it was stupid, tone-deaf and insensitive, but a kid wearing an offensive costume like that is not necessarily indicative of racist or fascist sympathies.

Unless there is other history there, in which case, carry on.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: whitey on March 08, 2021, 01:06:57 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

Harry is a racist but he married a woman who is half-black?

On the Nazi accusation - is this in reference to the Nazi costume years ago? (I'm not exposed to the day-to-day royal stuff where I live)

If so, it was stupid, tone-deaf and insensitive, but a kid wearing an offensive costume like that is not necessarily indicative of racist or fascist sympathies.

Unless there is other history there, in which case, carry on.

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 08, 2021, 01:12:18 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

Harry is a racist but he married a woman who is half-black?

On the Nazi accusation - is this in reference to the Nazi costume years ago? (I'm not exposed to the day-to-day royal stuff where I live)

If so, it was stupid, tone-deaf and insensitive, but a kid wearing an offensive costume like that is not necessarily indicative of racist or fascist sympathies.

Unless there is other history there, in which case, carry on.

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

Nice, but what's that got to do with anything I said?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: whitey on March 08, 2021, 01:20:16 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

Harry is a racist but he married a woman who is half-black?

On the Nazi accusation - is this in reference to the Nazi costume years ago? (I'm not exposed to the day-to-day royal stuff where I live)

If so, it was stupid, tone-deaf and insensitive, but a kid wearing an offensive costume like that is not necessarily indicative of racist or fascist sympathies.

Unless there is other history there, in which case, carry on.

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

Nice, but what's that got to do with anything I said?

Nothing

I shouldn’t have hit reply....my comment was not directed towards you
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 08, 2021, 01:24:27 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

Harry is a racist but he married a woman who is half-black?

On the Nazi accusation - is this in reference to the Nazi costume years ago? (I'm not exposed to the day-to-day royal stuff where I live)

If so, it was stupid, tone-deaf and insensitive, but a kid wearing an offensive costume like that is not necessarily indicative of racist or fascist sympathies.

Unless there is other history there, in which case, carry on.

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

Nice, but what's that got to do with anything I said?

Nothing

I shouldn’t have hit reply

Sorry :)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on March 08, 2021, 02:31:45 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

Harry is a racist but he married a woman who is half-black?

On the Nazi accusation - is this in reference to the Nazi costume years ago? (I'm not exposed to the day-to-day royal stuff where I live)

If so, it was stupid, tone-deaf and insensitive, but a kid wearing an offensive costume like that is not necessarily indicative of racist or fascist sympathies.

Unless there is other history there, in which case, carry on.

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

Who cares?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 08, 2021, 02:33:11 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

It was Harry who heard it and told her but wouldn't divulge to her who said it.

but blame her.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2021, 02:36:28 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

It was Harry who heard it and told her but wouldn't divulge to her who said it.

but blame her.
Was nobody concerned the wean would be born ginger?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 08, 2021, 02:40:03 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

It was Harry who heard it and told her but wouldn't divulge to her who said it.

but blame her.
Was nobody concerned the wean would be born ginger?

That's the Hewitt bloodline for you.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: whitey on March 08, 2021, 02:55:57 PM
Meghan Windsor is getting it somewhat today from the British media for daring to say the Royals are racist...

Imagine that!

No time for the Royals but she is poison.
At least she should have the balls to name who the racist was instead of just tarring them all with the same brush. Sure didn't she marry the biggest racist of them all nazi raghead Harry. Yet she seems surprised ffs.

Harry is a racist but he married a woman who is half-black?

On the Nazi accusation - is this in reference to the Nazi costume years ago? (I'm not exposed to the day-to-day royal stuff where I live)

If so, it was stupid, tone-deaf and insensitive, but a kid wearing an offensive costume like that is not necessarily indicative of racist or fascist sympathies.

Unless there is other history there, in which case, carry on.

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

Who cares?

Half the people on my social media feed who are having a nervous breakdown over this
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2021, 03:20:33 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that neither side is likely to be entirely innocent. Royal Family is controlling and has conservative/racist views shocker vs Hollywood actress is a spoilt madam who manipulates the media for own gain shocker.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Louther on March 08, 2021, 03:52:27 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that neither side is likely to be entirely innocent. Royal Family is controlling and has conservative/racist views shocker vs Hollywood actress is a spoilt madam who manipulates the media for own gain shocker.

 ;D ;D Perfectly put.

That people even care is the real story.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on March 08, 2021, 03:53:48 PM
She just seems to be naive to it all tbh.

The media have a lot to answer for and constantly portray her in a negative light in my eyes, and from her perspective she should have known that everything she has ever done would have been put out in the open as soon as she got involved.  You only have to   
There is that much shite talked about them in public, why not go on TV and respond, its been years in the making I suppose. 

But agree, nobody will come out of this the better.  Just watch the bile spew out of the papers the next few days over the back of it. 


Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2021, 04:42:39 PM
In the US they'll have increased their market worth whereas they'll be fcuked in the UK, but they knew that when they left, so they'll not lose any sleep.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: laoislad on March 08, 2021, 04:46:44 PM
Christ lads a full page or more on gaaboard about the royal family???
Who cares.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2021, 04:58:23 PM
Christ lads a full page or more on gaaboard about the royal family???
Who cares.
The Dubs!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: laoislad on March 08, 2021, 05:08:55 PM
Christ lads a full page or more on gaaboard about the royal family???
Who cares.
The Dubs!
So do you I’d say. Ya big dirty royalist.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2021, 05:15:39 PM
Christ lads a full page or more on gaaboard about the royal family???
Who cares.
The Dubs!
So do you I’d say. Ya big dirty royalist.
As someone said to me earlier, there's a few royal boxes I wouldn't mind visiting  :-X
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 08, 2021, 06:11:27 PM
Christ lads a full page or more on gaaboard about the royal family???
Who cares.
i know let’s get back to Pepe le pew ffs
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2021, 06:19:23 PM
Christ lads a full page or more on gaaboard about the royal family???
Who cares.
i know let’s get back to Pepe le pew ffs
Animal!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 08, 2021, 06:57:50 PM
Dave Chapelle on Pepe from years ago  :)

https://youtu.be/aUmYGLIubho (https://youtu.be/aUmYGLIubho)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2021, 02:37:36 PM
So I was watching the Inter Milan game last night and the missus was watching the Interview, who are the Firm or in charge of the Institution?

Is the Royal family run by outsiders?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on March 09, 2021, 07:25:39 PM
Piers Morgan . . . Thank f**k!!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Louther on March 09, 2021, 07:51:38 PM
So I was watching the Inter Milan game last night and the missus was watching the Interview, who are the Firm or in charge of the Institution?

Is the Royal family run by outsiders?

The Illuminati
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 10, 2021, 08:16:41 AM
Piers Morgan . . . Thank f**k!!

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: andoireabu on March 10, 2021, 09:34:44 AM
Piers Morgan . . . Thank f**k!!

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

The big baby took his ball and went home as soon as someone stood up to him. Funny how he saw fit to remove himself from a situation he didn't feel comfortable in, but didn't allow others the same right. He was good at putting it up to politicians but overall just a big airhorn of contrary opinions
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: bennydorano on March 10, 2021, 09:39:25 AM
I wouldn't mind a bet on him to join Andrew Neil's GB News - soon to launch on the Sky platform.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Taylor on March 10, 2021, 09:46:19 AM
Piers Morgan . . . Thank f**k!!

While not agreeing with a lot of what he says he absolutely held politicians accountable during the pandemic.

Contrast the interviews they do with other interviewers where they waffle and answer everything but the question asked - they are let off scot free.

Boris and co will be more relieved than anyone that he is gone - they boycotted the show for months because they didnt like being asked the hard questions
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2021, 10:35:17 AM
I wouldn't mind a bet on him to join Andrew Neil's GB News - soon to launch on the Sky platform.

Gaslit Britain News?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on March 10, 2021, 11:01:59 AM
Personally I was shocked to hear there was still a bit of racism lingering in English upper class circles.
That's a shocking terror.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2021, 11:47:51 AM
Personally I was shocked to hear there was still a bit of racism lingering in English upper class circles.
That's a shocking terror.

That's the bit that gets me as well.

Boris has been sectarian, racist, sexist and a mixture of them all at any given time and yet we're shocked that a member of the Royal family verbalised to Harry a query about the skin colour of his as yet unborn child.

I'd be shocked if someone hadn't TBH knowing their previous escapades.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: whitey on March 10, 2021, 12:31:20 PM
Personally I was shocked to hear there was still a bit of racism lingering in English upper class circles.
That's a shocking terror.

That's the bit that gets me as well.

Boris has been sectarian, racist, sexist and a mixture of them all at any given time and yet we're shocked that a member of the Royal family verbalised to Harry a query about the skin colour of his as yet unborn child.

I'd be shocked if someone hadn't TBH knowing their previous escapades.

I bet it was Mike Tindel or his wife who said it
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on March 10, 2021, 12:57:07 PM
I see Piers Morgans old colleague Jake Tapper of CNN rowing in behind him, citing the first amendment and freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2021, 01:00:07 PM
Personally I was shocked to hear there was still a bit of racism lingering in English upper class circles.
That's a shocking terror.

That's the bit that gets me as well.

Boris has been sectarian, racist, sexist and a mixture of them all at any given time and yet we're shocked that a member of the Royal family verbalised to Harry a query about the skin colour of his as yet unborn child.

I'd be shocked if someone hadn't TBH knowing their previous escapades.
Aye sure everyone has laughed at the boul Phil's outbursts over the years.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: bennydorano on March 10, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
I see Piers Morgans old colleague Jake Tapper of CNN rowing in behind him, citing the first amendment and freedom of speech.
I like Piers Morgan. He's slabbering about free speech but he's been denied f**k all, he's had his say, lots of people disagree with him and are articulating that - that is free speech in a nutshell, not sure what he expects to happen? Taking his ball and going home was very childish.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2021, 01:50:07 PM
I see Piers Morgans old colleague Jake Tapper of CNN rowing in behind him, citing the first amendment and freedom of speech.
I like Piers Morgan. He's slabbering about free speech but he's been denied f**k all, he's had his say, lots of people disagree with him and are articulating that - that is free speech in a nutshell, not sure what he expects to happen? Taking his ball and going home was very childish.

Didn't like the weatherman lad having his go at free speech all the same especially when he got personal.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 10, 2021, 02:11:20 PM
I see Piers Morgans old colleague Jake Tapper of CNN rowing in behind him, citing the first amendment and freedom of speech.

Supposedly Tapper misunderstood what Ofcom is. According to The Independent, they are technically NOT part of the UK government, and so their investigation is NOT a crackdown on free speech.

I've no idea if that's true.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: seafoid on March 10, 2021, 04:15:29 PM
I see Piers Morgans old colleague Jake Tapper of CNN rowing in behind him, citing the first amendment and freedom of speech.
I like Piers Morgan. He's slabbering about free speech but he's been denied f**k all, he's had his say, lots of people disagree with him and are articulating that - that is free speech in a nutshell, not sure what he expects to happen? Taking his ball and going home was very childish.

Didn't like the weatherman lad having his go at free speech all the same especially when he got personal.

He likes dishing it out rather than taking it

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kishan_Devani/status/1369270339407147008
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Hound on March 11, 2021, 07:20:53 AM

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

I’d never heard of her before she married Harry. I’m sure she’s no angel, but she seems to get a hard time judging by the lies people peddle about her!

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.
- Herself and Harry were meeting Eugenie and Fergie for lunch, and only found out on the drive over the Queen would be there.
- She said she was surprised she would have to courtesy when it was in private with only family. She thought it was just a traditional ceremonial thing which was just done when members of the public were around.
- Hardly unreasonable.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him
- Nope! She said she never googled him!

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana
- She did not say that during the interview. There was a reference to her not realising the hounding Diana got from media, but it was Harry leading that part of the conversation when saying he saw it as history repeating itself.


She definitely didn’t realize what she was getting into by marrying him. It’s effectively full time lockdown for the rest of your life, bar the official tours. Even if you have every luxury you could imagine, we all know now that lockdown is a right pain in the Swiss. She a knew a year before the rest of us and felt she had to engineer a way out of it. And she accomplished it. She regained control of her life.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 11, 2021, 09:28:26 AM

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

I’d never heard of her before she married Harry. I’m sure she’s no angel, but she seems to get a hard time judging by the lies people peddle about her!

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.
- Herself and Harry were meeting Eugenie and Fergie for lunch, and only found out on the drive over the Queen would be there.
- She said she was surprised she would have to courtesy when it was in private with only family. She thought it was just a traditional ceremonial thing which was just done when members of the public were around.
- Hardly unreasonable.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him
- Nope! She said she never googled him!

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana
- She did not say that during the interview. There was a reference to her not realising the hounding Diana got from media, but it was Harry leading that part of the conversation when saying he saw it as history repeating itself.


She definitely didn’t realize what she was getting into by marrying him. It’s effectively full time lockdown for the rest of your life, bar the official tours. Even if you have every luxury you could imagine, we all know now that lockdown is a right pain in the Swiss. She a knew a year before the rest of us and felt she had to engineer a way out of it. And she accomplished it. She regained control of her life.

Wonder why they feel the need to take her drivers license and passport off her. I bet that was a bit of a shock to her.

Shower of lizard c***ts  ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Franko on March 11, 2021, 10:11:24 AM

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

I’d never heard of her before she married Harry. I’m sure she’s no angel, but she seems to get a hard time judging by the lies people peddle about her!

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.
- Herself and Harry were meeting Eugenie and Fergie for lunch, and only found out on the drive over the Queen would be there.
- She said she was surprised she would have to courtesy when it was in private with only family. She thought it was just a traditional ceremonial thing which was just done when members of the public were around.
- Hardly unreasonable.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him
- Nope! She said she never googled him!

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana
- She did not say that during the interview. There was a reference to her not realising the hounding Diana got from media, but it was Harry leading that part of the conversation when saying he saw it as history repeating itself.


She definitely didn’t realize what she was getting into by marrying him. It’s effectively full time lockdown for the rest of your life, bar the official tours. Even if you have every luxury you could imagine, we all know now that lockdown is a right pain in the Swiss. She a knew a year before the rest of us and felt she had to engineer a way out of it. And she accomplished it. She regained control of her life.

Wonder why they feel the need to take her drivers license and passport off her. I bet that was a bit of a shock to her.

Shower of lizard c***ts  ;D

The irony that we mortals should go down on bended knee to someone that has spent her life terrified by people like Piers Morgan and Kelvin MacKenzie.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: trailer on March 11, 2021, 10:35:01 AM

FFS-I have heard it all now

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana

She didn’t know what she was getting into

A spoiled brat who has had it her own way her whole life (because she’s a cute minor celebrity) and didn’t like to have to play second fiddle is more like it

I’d never heard of her before she married Harry. I’m sure she’s no angel, but she seems to get a hard time judging by the lies people peddle about her!

She was shocked that she would have to courtesy to the Queen and didn’t know until a few minutes before she met her for the first time.
- Herself and Harry were meeting Eugenie and Fergie for lunch, and only found out on the drive over the Queen would be there.
- She said she was surprised she would have to courtesy when it was in private with only family. She thought it was just a traditional ceremonial thing which was just done when members of the public were around.
- Hardly unreasonable.

She didn’t know who Harry was and had to Google him
- Nope! She said she never googled him!

She knew nothing about what had happened with Princess Diana
- She did not say that during the interview. There was a reference to her not realising the hounding Diana got from media, but it was Harry leading that part of the conversation when saying he saw it as history repeating itself.


She definitely didn’t realize what she was getting into by marrying him. It’s effectively full time lockdown for the rest of your life, bar the official tours. Even if you have every luxury you could imagine, we all know now that lockdown is a right pain in the Swiss. She a knew a year before the rest of us and felt she had to engineer a way out of it. And she accomplished it. She regained control of her life.

Wonder why they feel the need to take her drivers license and passport off her. I bet that was a bit of a shock to her.

Shower of lizard c***ts  ;D

The irony that we mortals should go down on bended knee to someone that has spent her life terrified by people like Piers Morgan and Kelvin MacKenzie.

I am completely torn. Part of me has huge sympathy for the way the British press treated her and there is absolutely no doubt part of it was fuelled by racism. She also felt really trapped by "the firm" But the part of me thinks she was very naïve not to ask questions about how things would be once she was married or once the relationship had been made public. She didn't seem to have any understanding of Royal protocol or how things were done. She had no understanding of the what the Queen actually is. The Brits believe that the Monarch takes it's authority directly from God himself. You curtesy to show respect not because it's Lizzy but because you're kind of in the presence of God. FYI I think the whole Monarchy is mental and of course it should be abolished etc, etc. She had no grasp of this yet she was riding Harry.

Like it or not, the British Monarchy has overseen survived massive constitutional change not just in the UK but all across the world. They have survived even when other countries were overthrowing and chopping of the heads of their Monarchs. There's is a way in which they do things that keeps them in the position they are in. It is not a fluke and yet she seemed to have no understanding of this. I don't think she has a titter of wit as my Granny would say. But it doesn't excuse how the gutter press basically drove her to the edge of suicide.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: whitey on March 11, 2021, 02:19:32 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/1843/2018/05/23/can-meghan-markle-modernise-the-monarchy

The media got way ahead of themselves with their expectations as to what her impact would be

At the end of the day, she’s twice divorced  minor celebrity and c list actress.

And I’d guess 99% of people wouldn’t even have a clue she’s biracial unless someone told them her
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 11, 2021, 02:24:51 PM
Well the media and the Royal Family knew she was biracial.

And Diana was from a fairly modest, relatively speaking, part of the British nobility. Was she not working in a creche or daycare or something?

Yet she had a massive impact.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 11, 2021, 02:35:46 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/1843/2018/05/23/can-meghan-markle-modernise-the-monarchy

The media got way ahead of themselves with their expectations as to what her impact would be

At the end of the day, she’s twice divorced  minor celebrity and c list actress.

And I’d guess 99% of people wouldn’t even have a clue she’s biracial unless someone told them her

There was an interesting point made by a historian recently not sure of their name but during slavery there was no such thing as bi-racial, half caste or whatever term you use but any child with black DNA irrespective of how much was deemed black and a slave.
That sentiment no doubt still exists in some parts of society.

Heck even some of Thomas Jeffersons children he had with one of his slaves were slaves themselves until he himself granted them freedom as they got older.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thebigfella on March 11, 2021, 02:39:41 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/1843/2018/05/23/can-meghan-markle-modernise-the-monarchy

The media got way ahead of themselves with their expectations as to what her impact would be

At the end of the day, she’s twice divorced  minor celebrity and c list actress.

And I’d guess 99% of people wouldn’t even have a clue she’s biracial unless someone told them her

Who's the 2nd one to?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 11, 2021, 04:13:37 PM
I see Piers Morgans old colleague Jake Tapper of CNN rowing in behind him, citing the first amendment and freedom of speech.
did he quit or was he pushed out ?
If he was pushed out it means that twitter mobs now decides what sort of speech is ok and what isn't.
Also Only one side of argument can suffer mental health issues from online abuse ? #bekindmehole
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on March 11, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
Free speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you like. That seems to be a very big misunderstanding a lot these days.

Also on the note of twitter it was interesting to note on the US presidential election from what I read Biden didn't use it as only 5% of the voter base would be hit or some stat like that. Twitter doesn't mean that much. She put in a complaint herself. That would probably carry more weight than the whole of twitter.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 11, 2021, 04:25:06 PM
I see Piers Morgans old colleague Jake Tapper of CNN rowing in behind him, citing the first amendment and freedom of speech.
did he quit or was he pushed out ?
If he was pushed out it means that twitter mobs now decides what sort of speech is ok and what isn't.
Also Only one side of argument can suffer mental health issues from online abuse ? #bekindmehole

Reports suggest he quit.

Given how outspoken he is, I'm sure he'd be screaming bloody murder if he'd been fired.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 11, 2021, 04:27:40 PM
Free speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you like. That seems to be a very big misunderstanding a lot these days.

Also on the note of twitter it was interesting to note on the US presidential election from what I read Biden didn't use it as only 5% of the voter base would be hit or some stat like that. Twitter doesn't mean that much. She put in a complaint herself. That would probably carry more weight than the whole of twitter.

At least in the US, free speech only means that the government can't prosecute you for what you say, with certain, specific, exceptions.

It does NOT mean that you are free from non-government consequences when you make an offensive or inflammatory statement.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on March 11, 2021, 04:37:42 PM
I see Piers Morgans old colleague Jake Tapper of CNN rowing in behind him, citing the first amendment and freedom of speech.
did he quit or was he pushed out ?
If he was pushed out it means that twitter mobs now decides what sort of speech is ok and what isn't.
Also Only one side of argument can suffer mental health issues from online abuse ? #bekindmehole

Twitter mobs aren't allowed free speech either then?? Where does it end?!

People are free to say what they like but that has consequences.

If a mental health charity threatens pulls their advertising as a result of Piers' comments they're entitled to do that just as ITV had to make a decision as to whether they backed Piers or wanted to stay on the side of their advertisers.

Piers said what he wanted and paid the penalty that's on him ... free speech is a bullshit argument on this occasion!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 11, 2021, 04:39:09 PM
Free speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you like. That seems to be a very big misunderstanding a lot these days.

Also on the note of twitter it was interesting to note on the US presidential election from what I read Biden didn't use it as only 5% of the voter base would be hit or some stat like that. Twitter doesn't mean that much. She put in a complaint herself. That would probably carry more weight than the whole of twitter.
twitter seem to be punching way above their weight when it comes to cancel culture though,  a negative hashtag on Twitter about a company can lead to it removing a product or trying to appease people for no reason. Trump probably lost way more voters with his twitter rantings than he gained.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on March 11, 2021, 07:25:32 PM
The stuff he was coming out with on twitter would have lost him votes no matter what medium he sent it out on though. It was also reported much further and wider than twitter. I don't think that was specifically twitter.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 11, 2021, 07:32:31 PM
Yes, his press conferences and rallies were equally problematic.

His message itself was the issue. The fact that he has a narcissistic, compulsive need to be the centre of attention and broadcast it far and wide was a secondary factor.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on March 11, 2021, 07:59:07 PM
Yeah only Trump is to blame tbh.

There is probably a point in there on Twitter but Morgan went too far. He has always been pushing boundaries. Just like he came back from the Iraq photos he will come back from this. He’s a guy that deserves no sympathy.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2021, 03:31:45 PM
Yeah only Trump is to blame tbh.

There is probably a point in there on Twitter but Morgan went too far. He has always been pushing boundaries. Just like he came back from the Iraq photos he will come back from this. He’s a guy that deserves no sympathy.

Giving the go ahead to tap a dead girls phone takes some beating all the same.

He's an odious individual.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 12, 2021, 03:34:15 PM
Yeah only Trump is to blame tbh.

There is probably a point in there on Twitter but Morgan went too far. He has always been pushing boundaries. Just like he came back from the Iraq photos he will come back from this. He’s a guy that deserves no sympathy.

Giving the go ahead to tap a dead girls phone takes some beating all the same.

He's an odious individual.

I thought more would have been made of him haranguing his colleague for wearing a mini skirt on the same day but it seems to have been pushed aside.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
Yeah only Trump is to blame tbh.

There is probably a point in there on Twitter but Morgan went too far. He has always been pushing boundaries. Just like he came back from the Iraq photos he will come back from this. He’s a guy that deserves no sympathy.

Giving the go ahead to tap a dead girls phone takes some beating all the same.

He's an odious individual.

I thought more would have been made of him haranguing his colleague for wearing a mini skirt on the same day but it seems to have been pushed aside.

That was car crash alright and as you say pushed aside but you might expect it to get an airing again with the big push to raise awareness in the male population in how we behave towards our female colleagues in the work environment and in public since the murder of Sarah Everard.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2021, 05:30:27 PM
I’m looking forward to the words, zealot, nazi, fascists, right wing looney, trumpest, racist and so on tomorrow.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on March 14, 2021, 05:33:14 PM
What about the flu in 2018?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: trailer on March 14, 2021, 05:39:53 PM
Maybe the shithead will have found a f**king hobby.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2021, 05:42:47 PM
What about the flu in 2018?

Yes, how could I forget along with those greedy big f**king pharma’s

The fact that the south has dropped the Oxford vaccine it’ll provide more craic!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 15, 2021, 04:22:52 AM

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 15, 2021, 08:59:49 AM
Yeah only Trump is to blame tbh.

There is probably a point in there on Twitter but Morgan went too far. He has always been pushing boundaries. Just like he came back from the Iraq photos he will come back from this. He’s a guy that deserves no sympathy.

Giving the go ahead to tap a dead girls phone takes some beating all the same.

He's an odious individual.

I thought more would have been made of him haranguing his colleague for wearing a mini skirt on the same day but it seems to have been pushed aside.

That was car crash alright and as you say pushed aside but you might expect it to get an airing again with the big push to raise awareness in the male population in how we behave towards our female colleagues in the work environment and in public since the murder of Sarah Everard.

Hopefully it does because it was very poor from Morgan
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2021, 09:07:42 AM
He always came across as fairly untouchable and could say / do what he wants. He definitely has went way beyond the boundaries of acceptable on a number of things but seems a bit like like teflon. You seem to get individuals who get away with a lot more than others - must know where the bodies are buried.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2021, 09:16:02 AM
He always came across as fairly untouchable and could say / do what he wants. He definitely has went way beyond the boundaries of acceptable on a number of things but seems a bit like like teflon. You seem to get individuals who get away with a lot more than others - must know where the bodies are buried.
Because he boosted ratings for GMB and on a channel driven by advertising revenue it is clear he made them money. He was hired to generate viewers/revenue - all it needed was for 1 person on Twitter to say something ridiculously "woke" and GMB/Morgan got a couple of hours out of it the next day. He did get kudos for holding ministers' feet to the fire over Covid, however ALL of those grandstanding interviews were about him rather than the message
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2021, 09:20:08 AM
He always came across as fairly untouchable and could say / do what he wants. He definitely has went way beyond the boundaries of acceptable on a number of things but seems a bit like like teflon. You seem to get individuals who get away with a lot more than others - must know where the bodies are buried.
Because he boosted ratings for GMB and on a channel driven by advertising revenue it is clear he made them money. He was hired to generate viewers/revenue - all it needed was for 1 person on Twitter to say something ridiculously "woke" and GMB/Morgan got a couple of hours out of it the next day. He did get kudos for holding ministers' feet to the fire over Covid, however ALL of those grandstanding interviews were about him rather than the message

He did that alright but his interviewing technique/bullying is terrible to watch. Better interviewers don't let these Gov ministers waffle on but at the same time don't talk over them.

Oh for the days of Paxman, he'd have had a field day with them.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2021, 09:21:19 AM
Yeah exactly. A self absorbed twat.

Most would never have recovered from the Iraqi photos though so I always wondered how he was able to reinvent himself. The media basically choose who is ruined. You look at Ant from Ant and Dec and the drink driving. Many would have been ruined if they had done that. Not that I watch their show but from what I can gauge it's back on TV like nothing happened. Same kind of thing here. It's who you are, who you know and perhaps what you know about who you know lol.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2021, 09:41:41 AM
Yeah exactly. A self absorbed twat.

Most would never have recovered from the Iraqi photos though so I always wondered how he was able to reinvent himself. The media basically choose who is ruined. You look at Ant from Ant and Dec and the drink driving. Many would have been ruined if they had done that. Not that I watch their show but from what I can gauge it's back on TV like nothing happened. Same kind of thing here. It's who you are, who you know and perhaps what you know about who you know lol.

Barrymore is the one that took me to the cleaners. Utter sc**bag but was given a few chances to relaunch his career but alas the public didn't forgive just as quickly.

There does seem to be media darlings as you say are untouchable but the hypocrisy alive and well in media and political circles as you only have to look at the double standards afforded to Sturgeon for breaking a ministerial code for allegedly deceiving the Scottish Parliament and yet Boris de Pfiffle does it week in week out in Westminster and even refuses to correct the record when he's caught out.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2021, 09:46:02 AM
Corbyn another one in the political sphere - it was all very orchestrated against him.

Johnson is another level altogether. You could fill a book with stuff he has said / done that others would be destroyed for. You'd be quicker writing a book on truths he's told than lies he's told :o
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2021, 09:52:49 AM
I don't see it being any different from a standard workplace. It shouldn't be the case but someone who is really good and valuable to the company will gutted treated differently for a transgression than some bluffer who you might be wanting rid of.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 15, 2021, 09:54:41 AM
Corbyn another one in the political sphere - it was all very orchestrated against him.

Johnson is another level altogether. You could fill a book with stuff he has said / done that others would be destroyed for. You'd be quicker writing a book on truths he's told than lies he's told :o

It's mad,labour are so weak and the tories I think will successfully spin their disastrous covid response by showing  the success of the AZ rollout. Boris must be the master of political psychology
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 15, 2021, 10:02:30 AM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2021, 11:18:13 AM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 15, 2021, 11:24:23 AM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2021, 11:26:52 AM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 15, 2021, 11:36:28 AM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
There's only one major party in the Dail who is interested in jingoistic nationalist spectacle and we all know who that is
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2021, 11:41:23 AM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
There's only one major party in the Dail who is interested in jingoistic nationalist spectacle and we all know who that is

Jesus,
      Are FG still going to honour the tans?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 15, 2021, 11:48:49 AM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
There's only one major party in the Dail who is interested in jingoistic nationalist spectacle and we all know who that is

Jesus,
      Are FG still going to honour the tans?
A small commemoration of the RIC dead is the exact opposite of jingoistic nationalism
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Angelo on March 15, 2021, 11:53:43 AM
From the Rules at the top of the board:

9. 'Feuds'.
    On occasion, two or more posters become fixated with annoying each other, without necessarily descending into personal abuse per se. However this behaviour is very disruptive to whatever thread it breaks out it, and causes threads to be taken over by tit for tat insults. In a case such as this, a moderator may post a public and private warning for both posters to completely ignore the other, refraining from referring to, directing comments at, or answering the other poster. Disregarding this warning will result in a ban.

   Penalties - 1st offence after warning - 2 Days, 2nd Offence - 10 Days, Subsequent Offences - Recurring 15 Day bans.

Since both Angelo and Sid have served recent 2-day bans, the next level is a 10-day ban.

This was a complete and utter chickenshit decision btw. Sidney went around alleging I called him a rapist on here, I said nothing of the sort and I get banned because he clogs up the whole board making false allegations. It's pathetic stuff but it's clear you jump to the tune of a few posters on here.

I argue my points on here, I don't get hysterical like some posters you are happy to indulge. It's a mob rule on here and you ban posters who people shout the loudest about rather than on the rules you are meant to impose. You have allowed certain posters repeatedly insult me and others on here without ever taking any action against them, yet you have no problems holding these rules up to others. Maybe you should release a list of posters who the rules on here apply to and who they don't apply to, wouldn't that be something?

If you want to go ahead and give me a permanent ban for raising this issue then fire ahead. I actually don't mind, I'd rather have clarity that I can post with freedom and honesty rather than having to worry about the likes of trailer and RossFan behaving like a pair of 8 year olds.

If you want to go ahead and delete this post to try and suppress your obvious double standards and bias then shame on you.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 15, 2021, 12:05:05 PM
#wegoagain
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2021, 12:05:27 PM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
There's only one major party in the Dail who is interested in jingoistic nationalist spectacle and we all know who that is

Jesus,
      Are FG still going to honour the tans?
A small commemoration of the RIC dead is the exact opposite of jingoistic nationalism

It's a bit like the ANC commemorating the South African Police Special Branch.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 15, 2021, 12:09:59 PM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
There's only one major party in the Dail who is interested in jingoistic nationalist spectacle and we all know who that is

Jesus,
      Are FG still going to honour the tans?
A small commemoration of the RIC dead is the exact opposite of jingoistic nationalism

It's a bit like the ANC commemorating the South African Police Special Branch.
Actually it's not like that at all, given that the RIC haven't existed for 100 years

Mandela actually made it his business when he took over to try and create a unified nation rather than a divided one

Sinn Fein love to compare themselves to the ANC - I suppose that makes sense given the rampant corruption within the ANC nowadays

That's exactly the future Sinn Fein aspire to - an effective one party state where they can cream off the profits for themselves
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2021, 12:23:57 PM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
There's only one major party in the Dail who is interested in jingoistic nationalist spectacle and we all know who that is

Jesus,
      Are FG still going to honour the tans?
A small commemoration of the RIC dead is the exact opposite of jingoistic nationalism

It's a bit like the ANC commemorating the South African Police Special Branch.
Actually it's not like that at all, given that the RIC haven't existed for 100 years

Mandela actually made it his business when he took over to try and create a unified nation rather than a divided one

Sinn Fein love to compare themselves to the ANC - I suppose that makes sense given the rampant corruption within the ANC nowadays

That's exactly the future Sinn Fein aspire to - an effective one party state where they can cream off the profits for themselves

Brown envelopes from developers and turning a blind eye to the dodgy bankers over big dinners in the K club let alone the tent at the Galway races are not a Shinner thing TBH.

There's none as blind as those that don't want to see.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 15, 2021, 12:29:21 PM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
There's only one major party in the Dail who is interested in jingoistic nationalist spectacle and we all know who that is

Jesus,
      Are FG still going to honour the tans?
A small commemoration of the RIC dead is the exact opposite of jingoistic nationalism

It's a bit like the ANC commemorating the South African Police Special Branch.
Actually it's not like that at all, given that the RIC haven't existed for 100 years

Mandela actually made it his business when he took over to try and create a unified nation rather than a divided one

Sinn Fein love to compare themselves to the ANC - I suppose that makes sense given the rampant corruption within the ANC nowadays

That's exactly the future Sinn Fein aspire to - an effective one party state where they can cream off the profits for themselves

Brown envelopes from developers and turning a blind eye to the dodgy bankers over big dinners in the K club let alone the tent at the Galway races are not a Shinner thing TBH.

There's none as blind as those that don't want to see.
Shinners prefer to just rob banks

Tom McFeely was responsible for the biggest housing scandal in the history of this state

He was was a Shinner and a hunger striker

Shinners never talk about that
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on March 15, 2021, 12:37:36 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aol.com/amphtml/bill-burr-faces-backlash-over-031337468.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aol.com/amphtml/bill-burr-faces-backlash-over-031337468.html)

Comedian Bill Burr is the latest target for Gen Z, despite having a black wife and children.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2021, 12:41:17 PM
Boris Johnson is far from a master of political psychology or strategy

The reason the Tories win is pretty simple - Britain's overwhelmingly right-wing, jingoistic media have turned it into a managed "democracy" where nationalist spectacle reigns and truth is the enemy

If Britain had a media landscape like Ireland's, Labour would be in the position the Tories are, the Tories would be in the position the Lib Dems are, and the Lib Dems would be in the position Labour are

Boris is a figurehead for the media elites, vulture capitalists who want to continue to avoid paying taxes and stroke everyone else in the process.
Rishy is already being groomed by Rupert Murdock as his replacement.
Jingoistic nationalist spectacle is always a front for serious corruption

Ireland beware

Especially the right wing, ruling classes variety, Ireland definitely beware.
There's only one major party in the Dail who is interested in jingoistic nationalist spectacle and we all know who that is

Jesus,
      Are FG still going to honour the tans?
A small commemoration of the RIC dead is the exact opposite of jingoistic nationalism

It's a bit like the ANC commemorating the South African Police Special Branch.
Actually it's not like that at all, given that the RIC haven't existed for 100 years

Mandela actually made it his business when he took over to try and create a unified nation rather than a divided one

Sinn Fein love to compare themselves to the ANC - I suppose that makes sense given the rampant corruption within the ANC nowadays

That's exactly the future Sinn Fein aspire to - an effective one party state where they can cream off the profits for themselves

Brown envelopes from developers and turning a blind eye to the dodgy bankers over big dinners in the K club let alone the tent at the Galway races are not a Shinner thing TBH.

There's none as blind as those that don't want to see.
Shinners prefer to just rob banks

Tom McFeely was responsible for the biggest housing scandal in the history of this state

He was was a Shinner and a hunger striker

Shinners never talk about that

Tom played the game and greased the FFG wheels in Dublin like every other developer.

Don't think he was ever a member of the Shinners, but happy for you to prove me wrong.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2021, 12:56:26 PM
#wegoagain

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 15, 2021, 03:59:55 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aol.com/amphtml/bill-burr-faces-backlash-over-031337468.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aol.com/amphtml/bill-burr-faces-backlash-over-031337468.html)

Comedian Bill Burr is the latest target for Gen Z, despite having a black wife and children.
the little bitches have no sense of humor .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on March 15, 2021, 04:12:51 PM
Sid. Try and get through a post without mentioning SF. Try. I dare ye
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on March 15, 2021, 06:45:17 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aol.com/amphtml/bill-burr-faces-backlash-over-031337468.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aol.com/amphtml/bill-burr-faces-backlash-over-031337468.html)

Comedian Bill Burr is the latest target for Gen Z, despite having a black wife and children.
the little bitches have no sense of humor .

Its pretty well known the type of comedy Bill Burr does. The Grammy people had to have been aware of this. He's not trying to make people comfortable.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 16, 2021, 10:03:21 AM
Any chance Julie Burchill might now get cancelled by the Sunday Telegraph? Nah, no chance, she is right-wing British media in its true form, the masses love this stuff

How about Rod Liddle? He's the guy who boasted he'd be a child sex abuser if he was a teacher- in The Spectator magazine

Julie Burchill abused me for being Muslim – yet she was cast as the victim
Ash Sarkar

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/16/julie-burchill-muslim-islamophobic

Last December, I was referred to as an Islamist and a paedophile worshipper. I read multiple tweets speculating about whether I’m any good in bed, and insults about me supposedly having a moustache. Strange poems popped up portraying lurid sexual fantasies about having a threesome with me and the French far-right leader Marine Le Pen. I saw posts being liked on Facebook that told me to “kill myself for shame” and suggested that I had been a victim of female genital mutilation. None of these were the actions of an anonymous troll – they were the work of Sunday Telegraph columnist Julie Burchill.

This morning Burchill published a lengthy apology for these defamatory statements. She acknowledged that some of them “play into Islamophobic tropes”, and admitted that she was wrong to make “racist and misogynist comments” regarding my appearance and sex life. Burchill has apologised “unreservedly and unconditionally” for the “hurtful and unacceptable statements”, and undertakes not to contact me directly again or “engage in any course of action amounting to harassment”. She has also had to pay substantial damages for the distress caused and my legal costs.

These untrue and deeply upsetting comments had been made following me tweeting criticism of Burchill’s friend Rod Liddle for an article he had written nine years ago, in which he said the one reason why he’s not a teacher is that he “could not remotely conceive of not trying to shag the kids”. I happen to be Muslim (if I’m honest, not a particularly pious one) and Burchill used that to single me out on social media. She had some form in this regard, having previously tweeted me asking whether I had got rid of a bawdy joke in my Twitter bio because of being threatened by my “co-religionists”.

When I replied objecting to her response, which implied that Muslims were tacit supporters of child abuse, I was met with the accusation of “[worshipping] a paedophile”. On Burchill’s Facebook page, she encouraged her followers to “wade in” on social media, and referred to me as an Islamist and a nonce. For weeks afterwards, Burchill continued to publish posts on social media both to and about me.

What followed was a barrage of abuse on social media and by email. People speculated about whether I was really a woman, and really a Muslim – and I was subjected to rape threats and threats of physical violence. I received direct messages on Instagram calling me a “dirty brown whore”, and fantasising about me being raped in “an all white gangbang”. The intensity of the abuse, along with Burchill’s continuing derogatory posts about me, severely affected my mental health. I couldn’t sleep, and had bouts of trembling and heart palpitations. For the first time in my life, I was prescribed anti-anxiety medication.

At the same time, a media storm was brewing. In response to her conduct on social media, the publisher Little, Brown terminated Burchill’s book contract for Welcome to the Woke Trials: How #Identity Killed Progressive Politics. In her apology, Burchill states that she wishes to “to make clear that I accept that Ms Sarkar did not call for my publisher to break ties with me and bears no responsibility for this”. But despite the fact I had never asked for this to happen, media outlets framed the matter as cancel culture gone mad. Burchill’s defamatory statements were reported as merely “[making] a comment on Twitter to Muslim ‘libertarian communist’ journalist Ash Sarkar about the age of one of the Prophet Mohammed’s wives.” The Times wrote that “Welcome to the Woke Trials, billed as … [an] indictment of the ‘outrage mob’ and its impact on freedom of speech”, had itself “become a casualty of the very forces it was describing”. It felt like much of the media’s reporting of the issue played down the defamation, racism and harassment in favour of framing me as part of the woke mob – and Burchill as its victim.

Last week, the Society of Editors was embroiled in a row after its then-executive director, Ian Murray, claimed that the UK media “is most certainly not racist” in response to Meghan’s criticism of how she’d been treated by the press. But what my experience with Burchill shows is that not only is there racism from journalists themselves, there’s also a lack of accountability more broadly within the industry.

The unfortunate truth is that, sometimes, the only thing that separates an anonymous troll and a journalist is a byline. Some of the worst abuse I’ve received is either from journalists or the direct consequence of their actions in spreading misinformation about me. Those at the top of our industry have persistently drawn a veil of silence around the bullying tactics that drum black and brown women out of public life. We cannot claim to have a truly free press as long as those who tacitly encourage and facilitate the harassment of women of colour remain sheltered within the media.

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Post by: J70 on March 16, 2021, 11:12:24 AM
Fuckin hell. She sounds like a lovely person!

Good for Sarkar for suing the f**k out of her.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 16, 2021, 11:23:19 AM
Fuckin hell. She sounds like a lovely person!

Good for Sarkar for suing the f**k out of her.

It's the only language these hoors understand.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 17, 2021, 11:32:16 AM
Sharon Osborne for initially defending piers Morgan, also did anyone catch the wap performance on the Grammys good wholesome family entertainment .
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on March 17, 2021, 01:02:58 PM
Good horrible woman. I remember years ago on X factor following a weird contestant she decided it would be ok to say she hates all ginger haired people. Interesting how that got a pass or was just deemed funny by most.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 17, 2021, 02:23:43 PM
Good horrible woman. I remember years ago on X factor following a weird contestant she decided it would be ok to say she hates all ginger haired people. Interesting how that got a pass or was just deemed funny by most.
are you a red head?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on March 17, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
Sharon Osborne for initially defending piers Morgan, also did anyone catch the wap performance on the Grammys good wholesome family entertainment .

Watched it there. I really dont know what to say.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 17, 2021, 02:40:34 PM
Yeah - that rendition of You'll Never Walk Alone was fantastic.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 17, 2021, 03:42:41 PM
British newspapers are too powerful. It's about time people started standing up to them, which is why the Meghan and Harry thing is so intriguing. They drove his mother to her death, and now he's fighting back.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2021, 03:48:16 PM
Who buys a newspaper now? I get all my information from Angelo, it’s unbiased, well sourced and conveys a positive thoughtful message
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Gmac on March 17, 2021, 04:08:50 PM
Who buys a newspaper now? I get all my information from Angelo, it’s unbiased, well sourced and conveys a positive thoughtful message
los Angelo times ?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 17, 2021, 08:47:56 PM
Who buys a newspaper now? I get all my information from Angelo, it’s unbiased, well sourced and conveys a positive thoughtful message

Was tempted to buy them last year when there was a shortage of toilet paper.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Kidder81 on March 17, 2021, 09:47:54 PM
British newspapers are too powerful. It's about time people started standing up to them, which is why the Meghan and Harry thing is so intriguing. They drove his mother to her death, and now he's fighting back.

He’s a pussy
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on March 18, 2021, 01:23:06 PM
British newspapers are too powerful. It's about time people started standing up to them, which is why the Meghan and Harry thing is so intriguing. They drove his mother to her death, and now he's fighting back.

Unfortunate choice of metaphor there.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on March 18, 2021, 02:32:02 PM
British newspapers are too powerful. It's about time people started standing up to them, which is why the Meghan and Harry thing is so intriguing. They drove his mother to her death, and now he's fighting back.

Unfortunate choice of metaphor there.

I thought it was genius. On that point why would he be fighting back, mainly against his brother it would seem, who also lost his mother in that crash
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on March 18, 2021, 02:35:20 PM
British newspapers are too powerful. It's about time people started standing up to them, which is why the Meghan and Harry thing is so intriguing. They drove his mother to her death, and now he's fighting back.

Unfortunate choice of metaphor there.

I thought it was genius. On that point why would he be fighting back, mainly against his brother it would seem, who also lost his mother in that crash

Their ma had taken up with a Muslim.

A ginger was bad enough, but a Muslim was never going to fly.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Armagh18 on March 18, 2021, 02:44:30 PM
https://www.newstalk.com/news/political-correctness-gone-mad-michael-healy-rae-on-renaming-the-kerryman-to-the-kerryperson-1166540
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Capt Pat on March 21, 2021, 09:39:57 PM
Comedian Lee Hurst has been suspended from twitter for joking "When Greta Thunberg discovers c**k she will stop complaining about the single use plastic it comes wrapped in".
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Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 21, 2021, 10:31:23 PM
it didn't last long - he's back on there
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: sid waddell on March 22, 2021, 11:00:49 AM
The Mary Lou McDonald cartoon is a parable for our times

It has demonstrated how internet debate has now almost entirely descended into an impenetrable barrage of whataboutery and a desperate search for hypocrisy in others - and that sort of debate ultimately gets us nowhere

For those who didn't see the cartoon - the Sindo depicted McDonald as a witch stirring a pot

Sinn Fein members and supporters have been very quick to judge the cartoon as misogynist - and I think I agree with them on that - there was a distinct whiff of misogynism about it

Yet misogynist comments by Sinn Fein members and supporters are all over the internet - for instance, Wexford TD Johnny Mythen wrote a message some years ago expressing a desire to see Joan Burton being burned at the stake like Joan of Arc

This hypocrisy has been pointed out by others on the left and right

Yet the left and Irish Republicans have a long history of demonising Margaret Thatcher as a witch ("ding dong the witch is dead") and for years before her death, a familiar cry on the left was "we're having a party when Thatcher dies"

And indeed there were parties when Thatcher died

I think the special hatred that seemed to be reserved for Thatcher was because she was a woman - Ronald Reagan for instance didn't get any of the same hatred even though he was worse

For full disclosure I'm guilty of some that of that very harsh anti-Thatcher rhetoric myself - which I have subsequently realised contained elements of misogynism - and that was wrong - though I still despise her politics

And I dare say many people here are guilty of that too

I think Mary Harney is another politician who was a victim of misogyny from some on the left

Arlene Foster a target of of misogyny from some Irish Republicans too I think - though like with Thatcher I also despise her politics and that of her party

Of course there is massive misogyny from the right pretty much everywhere, conservative politics is built on misogyny - it is based on an essentially patriarchal society

Fine Gael's Charlie Flanagan has waded in to agree with the depiction of McDonald as a witch

Hillary Clinton was obviously a huge victim of that conservative misogyny but her victimisation is just the tip of the iceberg

So there's hypocrisy literally everywhere you look here

SF are hypocritical because they indulged misogynist anti-Thatcher, anti-Joan Burton etc. rhetoric for years, and refuse to admit that

Others on the generalised left are hypocritical because so did they, and refuse to admit it

Those on the left who didn't do any of that tend not to call it out from their own "side"

Fine Gael are hypocritical because they harbour misogynists and won't call them out, same with Fianna Fail

The so called "anti-PC", "free speech activists" of the right are totally misogynistic

This cartoon is free speech - if the "free speech" crowd said "Je Suis Charlie", why not "Je Suis Sindo" over this cartoon?

So you can't be "anti-PC", "Je Suis Charlie" or "pro-free speech" and then complain about the Sindo publishing this cartoon - you'd be a hypocrite, and still a misogynist

Personally I think the Sindo should not have depicted McDonald as a witch - they should have depicted her with a balaclava instead - it wouldn't have been misogynist and would have got the point across better

Thoughts?



Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 29, 2021, 11:01:54 PM
Yer man Noel Clarke is in the process of being buried without trace.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: charlieTully on April 29, 2021, 11:07:23 PM
Yer man Noel Clarke is in the process of being buried without trace.


The director? Kidulthood etc?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 29, 2021, 11:52:32 PM
Yer man Noel Clarke is in the process of being buried without trace.


The director? Kidulthood etc?
Aye the vultures are circling as the Guardian are reporting that more than 20 women have come out against him for a range of sexual misconduct accusations. Stick his name into Twitter.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on April 30, 2021, 12:16:44 AM
Comedian Lee Hurst has been suspended from twitter for joking "When Greta Thunberg discovers c**k she will stop complaining about the single use plastic it comes wrapped in".

The twitter polis obviously don’t have a sense of humour.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: tonto1888 on April 30, 2021, 04:30:32 PM
Yer man Noel Clarke is in the process of being buried without trace.

Seen this. If he is guilty then screw him but surely he can’t be sacked on the basis of a newspaper report
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2021, 07:09:44 PM
No such thing as innocent until proven guilty any more it would seem.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Armagh18 on May 26, 2021, 08:24:29 AM
I see Marylin Monroe is getting cancelled now too. Ffs.
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Post by: nrico2006 on May 26, 2021, 09:33:44 AM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on May 26, 2021, 09:43:13 AM
I see Marylin Monroe is getting cancelled now too. Ffs.

Now what did she get up to?  ::)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 09:47:52 AM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.

Was alright for Cantona, watching the United Way last night, he'd only one regret  ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thebigfella on May 26, 2021, 09:50:48 AM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.

Is there not a pending court case? If so it's the right thing.

He should be in there but the timing is wrong, so would would only trigger a lots of shit. 
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 09:54:24 AM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.

Is there not a pending court case? If so it's the right thing.

He should be in there but the timing is wrong, so would would only trigger a lots of shit.

If he's guilty of this then he should be properly tarnished, he is or was a professional footballer and a national coach ffs! At what point in life do you not start to catch yourself on?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on May 26, 2021, 09:58:25 AM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.

If Cummins keeps going then Boris could be cancelled anytime soon.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Armagh18 on May 26, 2021, 11:15:37 AM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.
Giggs is a tube and a horrible **** of a person. Shouldn’t matter one iota though in terms of hall of fame. Still one of the very best ever.

George Best and Maradonna were no angels either but doesn’t take away from their genius and standing in the game.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 26, 2021, 11:17:21 AM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.

He's been charged with the assault of two women.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on May 26, 2021, 12:04:49 PM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.
Giggs is a tube and a horrible **** of a person. Shouldn’t matter one iota though in terms of hall of fame. Still one of the very best ever.

George Best and Maradonna were no angels either but doesn’t take away from their genius and standing in the game.

Don't think anyone is disputing Giggs' onfield ability and accomplishments.

However, why would the hall of fame panel invite the controversy, on the initial roll out of the institution, of installing him right in the middle of these allegations/court case? Its absolutely sensible that they wait.

Best and Maradonna weren't angels, for sure, but their reputations on the field suffered also, despite living in a far more indulgent and discrete times. Best left the top level game far too early, and his worldwide renown is not what it should be. Maradonna was banned for drugs and booted unceremoniously out of a World Cup. He is arguably the greatest player ever, but he is seen as a highly flawed genius who could have been even greater. But then maybe he wouldn't have been so loved without the flaws and the rock star behaviour.

Would Pele be more loved these days had he publicly indulged his wilder side and, understandably, not kept his head down with the military regime and so on, instead of just letting his genius do the talking on the pitch?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 01:07:29 PM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.
Giggs is a tube and a horrible **** of a person. Shouldn’t matter one iota though in terms of hall of fame. Still one of the very best ever.

George Best and Maradonna were no angels either but doesn’t take away from their genius and standing in the game.

Don't think anyone is disputing Giggs' onfield ability and accomplishments.

However, why would the hall of fame panel invite the controversy, on the initial roll out of the institution, of installing him right in the middle of these allegations/court case? Its absolutely sensible that they wait.

Best and Maradonna weren't angels, for sure, but their reputations on the field suffered also, despite living in a far more indulgent and discrete times. Best left the top level game far too early, and his worldwide renown is not what it should be. Maradonna was banned for drugs and booted unceremoniously out of a World Cup. He is arguably the greatest player ever, but he is seen as a highly flawed genius who could have been even greater. But then maybe he wouldn't have been so loved without the flaws and the rock star behaviour.

Would Pele be more loved these days had he publicly indulged his wilder side and, understandably, not kept his head down with the military regime and so on, instead of just letting his genius do the talking on the pitch?

Is this due to his skill or longevity in the game? As Van Basten was 28 and Best stopped playing for Utd when he was 27
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on May 26, 2021, 01:49:40 PM
Giggs not being given a place in the hall of fame due to an allegation.  Ronaldo better watch out, be a lot of awards to be taken off him if the same treatment is applied to him.
Giggs is a tube and a horrible **** of a person. Shouldn’t matter one iota though in terms of hall of fame. Still one of the very best ever.

George Best and Maradonna were no angels either but doesn’t take away from their genius and standing in the game.

Don't think anyone is disputing Giggs' onfield ability and accomplishments.

However, why would the hall of fame panel invite the controversy, on the initial roll out of the institution, of installing him right in the middle of these allegations/court case? Its absolutely sensible that they wait.

Best and Maradonna weren't angels, for sure, but their reputations on the field suffered also, despite living in a far more indulgent and discrete times. Best left the top level game far too early, and his worldwide renown is not what it should be. Maradonna was banned for drugs and booted unceremoniously out of a World Cup. He is arguably the greatest player ever, but he is seen as a highly flawed genius who could have been even greater. But then maybe he wouldn't have been so loved without the flaws and the rock star behaviour.

Would Pele be more loved these days had he publicly indulged his wilder side and, understandably, not kept his head down with the military regime and so on, instead of just letting his genius do the talking on the pitch?

Is this due to his skill or longevity in the game? As Van Basten was 28 and Best stopped playing for Utd when he was 27

Don't think anyone whose seen him doubts Best's skill, which was almost unparalleled.

Van Basten is an interesting comparison. However, he had to retire due to injury after spending a couple of years trying in vain to get back. And he also had to step out at the peak of his powers. Best, on the other hand, embraced the celebrity night life, went missing from training and matches, and played a diminishing role for United as the team declined post-Busby before he finally opted out. Best is a case of pissing it all away, while Van Basten lost those years through no fault of his own.

To me, Best should be up there in the conversations about greatest player ever, but he never really is.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 02:54:39 PM
No one is denying lost it, he literally pissed it all away and probably predisposed with addiction, as his mum was also suffering with the same addiction, but his talent at the time is and was as good as those around him, league titles and European Cup is evidence of that, his performances in the big games was there to se, no bit part roles, Law, and Charlton for me were better professionals and Charlton over all probably shaded it, but the footage and maybe nostalgia of him back in the day with the ball at his feet left lasting memories.

Not having an international career of sorts didn't help the worldwide view of him, whereas the Pele's of that time soaked up a lot of fame. (and rightly so)

Matt Busby's retirement and the hounding of the press and pressure of the times played a huge role in his demise, had he moved to a different county he could have had that longevity that the top players deserve. But can you imagine the hype you had to deal with at aged 23/24 years old?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on May 26, 2021, 03:47:17 PM
No one is denying lost it, he literally pissed it all away and probably predisposed with addiction, as his mum was also suffering with the same addiction, but his talent at the time is and was as good as those around him, league titles and European Cup is evidence of that, his performances in the big games was there to se, no bit part roles, Law, and Charlton for me were better professionals and Charlton over all probably shaded it, but the footage and maybe nostalgia of him back in the day with the ball at his feet left lasting memories.

Not having an international career of sorts didn't help the worldwide view of him, whereas the Pele's of that time soaked up a lot of fame. (and rightly so)

Matt Busby's retirement and the hounding of the press and pressure of the times played a huge role in his demise, had he moved to a different county he could have had that longevity that the top players deserve. But can you imagine the hype you had to deal with at aged 23/24 years old?

Of course. He was one of the first celebrity sportsmen and there was no guidebook for himself or his management to refer to. I'm not judging him morally or anything. And I agree the national team issue is certainly an important aspect of his relative lack of acclaim. Pele burst onto the scene as a 17 year old kid at the World Cup and peaked in Mexico 12 years later as the greatest player in arguably the greatest ever football team. Maradonna single-handedly won one world cup and almost a second. Whereas Best came from a small country (football terms) which, at the time, was in the early stages of a brutal conflict.

Had Best been English, who knows where he would rank today given the strength of the England team when he was in his early 20s pomp.


Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 18, 2021, 10:11:20 AM
Enid Blyton has been cancelled now.

No more Famous Five for me. Ffs.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Armagh18 on June 18, 2021, 10:21:20 AM
Enid Blyton has been cancelled now.

No more Famous Five for me. Ffs.
What’s she done?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thebigfella on June 18, 2021, 10:39:44 AM
Surely the orange order are next on the list to be cancelled?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: johnnycool on June 18, 2021, 10:41:23 AM
Enid Blyton has been cancelled now.

No more Famous Five for me. Ffs.
What’s she done?

She went and wrote the Magnificent seven as well according to GB News..

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: BennyCake on June 18, 2021, 10:45:58 AM
Enid Blyton has been cancelled now.

No more Famous Five for me. Ffs.
What’s she done?

Apparently her books are racist and xenophobic  ::)
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thebigfella on June 18, 2021, 11:52:35 AM
Enid Blyton has been cancelled now.

No more Famous Five for me. Ffs.
What’s she done?

Apparently her books are racist and xenophobic  ::)

Some of her work is dubious enough but this hardly new news.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Capt Pat on July 23, 2021, 10:02:51 PM
Neil Francis sacked by the indo for saying Lion Marcus Smith had a David Beckham haircut. He also complimented him on having an oompa loompa tan.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 23, 2021, 10:34:16 PM
Neil Francis sacked by the indo for saying Lion Marcus Smith had a David Beckham haircut. He also complimented him on having an oompa loompa tan.
He's a f**king idiot.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: rodney trotter on July 23, 2021, 10:37:22 PM
Makes a tit of himself regularly
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Rudi on July 23, 2021, 11:07:11 PM
He's an arrogant man. He writes on the edge of what's acceptable,  got away with it for years. This time not, no loss.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on July 23, 2021, 11:13:18 PM
Stupid ill conceived comment but he has previous. He’s a complete dose and there are bound to be better Rugby columnists around now who could slot in without any hassle!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on July 25, 2021, 12:10:35 AM
In retort  Francis (the arrogant entitled prck)  implied that if anyone was dumb enough to take offense from something which had benign intention, then he apologizes to them. That Fitzgerald guy is just as bad, xenophobic attitude to anybody not Irish born who comes over here to take the place on the intl team away from good Leinster born and schooled players.  "The Team of Us",  but who are the "US"?.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 25, 2021, 01:17:23 AM
In retort  Francis (the arrogant entitled prck)  implied that if anyone was dumb enough to take offense from something which had benign intention, then he apologizes to them. That Fitzgerald guy is just as bad, xenophobic attitude to anybody not Irish born who comes over here to take the place on the intl team away from good Leinster born and schooled players.  "The Team of Us",  but who are the "US"?.
I am sure he thought he was engaging in "bants" which sports podcasts seem addicted to and rather than blatant racism it is gross stupidity and lazy journalism for a group of fellas who didn't even know Smith has a mother from the Philippines which may explain his "tan". Smith isn't a nobody - anyone who follows English rugby knows his pedigree, which is outstanding for someone of that age. It suggests Francis does no research, talks shote and picks up a cheque.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2022, 09:44:02 AM
Noel Clarke (Dr Who sidekick) is suing BAFTA & the Guardian after allegations against him from 20 women were adjudged by the Met Police to not meet the threshold for a criminal investigation.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 01, 2022, 09:53:57 AM
Has he been uncancelled then? Who decides. Im confused
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2022, 10:58:09 AM
Doubt it, that's the trouble, shit sticks, he'll still be a pariah. He hasn't been proven innocent.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 01, 2022, 11:14:16 AM
Need to add dj Tim Westwood to the oul list
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: nrico2006 on May 01, 2022, 12:03:30 PM
Doubt it, that's the trouble, shit sticks, he'll still be a pariah. He hasn't been proven innocent.

Doesn't need to be, he is innocent.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2022, 12:54:12 PM
Has he been uncancelled then? Who decides. Im confused

Your mate on Facebook decides
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 01, 2022, 01:30:48 PM
Must ask him 😃😃😉
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: laoislad on May 05, 2022, 08:24:27 AM
The song Football’s Coming Home is apparently offensive now and the FA are looking to cancel it 😂
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 05, 2022, 08:28:08 AM
Probably offensive in the way that it's never coming home.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: clarshack on May 05, 2022, 09:56:30 AM
The song Football’s Coming Home is apparently offensive now and the FA are looking to cancel it 😂

I don't like the English soccer team or their fans but the reason for looking to cancel it is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 05, 2022, 09:58:38 AM
The song Football’s Coming Home is apparently offensive now and the FA are looking to cancel it 😂

What? Why?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on May 05, 2022, 10:08:58 AM
The song Football’s Coming Home is apparently offensive now and the FA are looking to cancel it 😂

What? Why?

The woke brigade say its offensive to other countries.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: thebigfella on May 05, 2022, 10:18:38 AM
The song Football’s Coming Home is apparently offensive now and the FA are looking to cancel it 😂

What? Why?

The woke brigade say its offensive to other countries.

Not just the woke brigade. If your not english it would make you puke.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Armagh18 on May 05, 2022, 10:22:09 AM
The song Football’s Coming Home is apparently offensive now and the FA are looking to cancel it 😂

What? Why?

The woke brigade say its offensive to other countries.

Not just the woke brigade. If your not english it would make you puke.
Hardly offensive now, just shite. But the more they sing it the more we get to enjoy ourselves when they inevitably feck up
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on May 05, 2022, 10:28:06 AM
I like the song. And the English did invent football as we know it. And just who is this “woke brigade” who apparently convinced the FA to drop the song (which is actually about the three decades of misery, at the time, that England fans had endured since ‘66).

Personally I’d much rather listen to that song than a crowd singing Sweet f**king Caroline.

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: laoislad on May 05, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
The song Football’s Coming Home is apparently offensive now and the FA are looking to cancel it 😂

What? Why?

The woke brigade say its offensive to other countries.

Not just the woke brigade. If your not english it would make you puke.
As a song I like it, think it’s very catchy. Always hilarious when the inevitable happens also and England lose.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: clarshack on May 05, 2022, 10:42:51 AM
What's next? at some point in the future Cork win Sam and aren't allowed to say Sam's coming home as it might offend the other counties lol?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 05, 2022, 11:34:58 AM
I like the song. And the English did invent football as we know it. And just who is this “woke brigade” who apparently convinced the FA to drop the song (which is actually about the three decades of misery, at the time, that England fans had endured since ‘66).

Personally I’d much rather listen to that song than a crowd singing Sweet f**king Caroline.

As someone who knows someone called Caroline im.offended by this song. But also offended thst you dont like it. Im.fuming in fact. Im gona vent my anger on social media thatll teach you
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2022, 11:38:43 AM
Tbf it is an annoying song  ;D
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: smelmoth on May 05, 2022, 12:37:21 PM
The story seems to hinge on quote from an unnamed person.

Fair chance that the usual suspects (Express/Sun/Morgan/Mail/GB news) are getting their undergarments in a tangle over nothing.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 05, 2022, 12:53:56 PM
3 lions - fake news. FA have released a statement. Phew. We can all get on with our day now
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2022, 12:56:44 PM
The story seems to hinge on quote from an unnamed person.

Fair chance that the usual suspects (Express/Sun/Morgan/Mail/GB news) are getting their undergarments in a tangle over nothing.

It is probably to distract from Johnson's misdemeanours. Sadly that is probably more likely to be true than not.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: J70 on May 05, 2022, 01:29:04 PM
The story seems to hinge on quote from an unnamed person.

Fair chance that the usual suspects (Express/Sun/Morgan/Mail/GB news) are getting their undergarments in a tangle over nothing.

From their point of view, it serves to rile up their base.

Doesn't matter a f**k whether it was bullshit.

The fact that it was out there as a story just confirms what they already "knew" and reinforces those attitudes and expectations, so job done.

"Well, it might be bullshit, but it is still a fact that British society is under a serious existential threat from these powerful woke mobs" i.e. a single idiot commenting on Twitter.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on May 05, 2022, 08:22:28 PM
Media really are trash.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on May 06, 2022, 11:53:18 PM
The song Football’s Coming Home is apparently offensive now and the FA are looking to cancel it 😂

What? Why?

The woke brigade say its offensive to other countries.

Not just the woke brigade. If your not english it would make you puke.
Hardly offensive now, just shite. But the more they sing it the more we get to enjoy ourselves when they inevitably feck up
It sounded good to my ears when the German supporters sang it when bringing the World Cup home to Berlin 2014 and some time after at Wembley.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on August 05, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
Martin Tyler!!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 11:50:50 AM
Martin Tyler!!

Sports guy?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Estimator on August 05, 2022, 11:53:13 AM
Martin Tyler!!

Sports guy?

Tyler, 76, said: "It was very pioneering. We didn't know quite how the [new] structure of the league would work, we certainly didn't know how satellite television as it was called in those days would work. But it was a great adventure. 3,000 live matches later...it does seem that it worked.

"You've got to remember that football was in a bit of a crisis at that time. We weren't that long after Hillsborough and other hooligan-related issues as well. It was very much a difficult time for the game generally.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 01:06:50 PM
Martin Tyler!!

Sports guy?

Tyler, 76, said: "It was very pioneering. We didn't know quite how the [new] structure of the league would work, we certainly didn't know how satellite television as it was called in those days would work. But it was a great adventure. 3,000 live matches later...it does seem that it worked.

"You've got to remember that football was in a bit of a crisis at that time. We weren't that long after Hillsborough and other hooligan-related issues as well. It was very much a difficult time for the game generally.

Seriously he was pulled for talking about hooligan related issues? wow
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on August 05, 2022, 01:08:21 PM
Martin Tyler!!

Sports guy?

Tyler, 76, said: "It was very pioneering. We didn't know quite how the [new] structure of the league would work, we certainly didn't know how satellite television as it was called in those days would work. But it was a great adventure. 3,000 live matches later...it does seem that it worked.

"You've got to remember that football was in a bit of a crisis at that time. We weren't that long after Hillsborough and other hooligan-related issues as well. It was very much a difficult time for the game generally.

Absolutely shocking. Liverpool fans have always known what his thoughts were and now it's been proven. He's shown complete disdain for Liverpool from day one.
He'll be back for another year of drivel this year though without a doubt.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on August 05, 2022, 01:09:27 PM
Martin Tyler!!

Sports guy?

Tyler, 76, said: "It was very pioneering. We didn't know quite how the [new] structure of the league would work, we certainly didn't know how satellite television as it was called in those days would work. But it was a great adventure. 3,000 live matches later...it does seem that it worked.

"You've got to remember that football was in a bit of a crisis at that time. We weren't that long after Hillsborough and other hooligan-related issues as well. It was very much a difficult time for the game generally.

Seriously he was pulled for talking about hooligan related issues? wow

No. For saying that Hillsborough was a hooligan issue when it's been proven it wasn't. Disgusting thing to say.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: screenexile on August 05, 2022, 01:23:22 PM
I think it’s harsh if you listen to what he said he just worded it badly.

He’s apologised but as with these things it doesn’t matter… nobody else has ever misspoken before so they want him hung out to dry!
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Main Street on August 05, 2022, 01:28:01 PM
Martin Tyler!!

Sports guy?

Tyler, 76, said: "It was very pioneering. We didn't know quite how the [new] structure of the league would work, we certainly didn't know how satellite television as it was called in those days would work. But it was a great adventure. 3,000 live matches later...it does seem that it worked.

"You've got to remember that football was in a bit of a crisis at that time. We weren't that long after Hillsborough and other hooligan-related issues as well. It was very much a difficult time for the game generally.

Seriously he was pulled for talking about hooligan related issues? wow

No. For saying that Hillsborough was a hooligan issue when it's been proven it wasn't. Disgusting thing to say.
He didn't say Hillsborough was a hooligan issue, his statement was ambiguous but he clearly denies  linking the two issue together. I think there is considerable doubt that he should be given the benefit of.

On the BBC he talked about his career
“It was a great adventure and 3,000 live matches later – not all commentated by me, thankfully for the public – it does seem like it worked,” Tyler said. “You have got to remember football was in a bit of a crisis at that time. We weren’t that long after Hillsborough and other hooligan-related issues as well, so it was very much a difficult time for the game generally.”

later on Sky he said
“This morning, while discussing various crises facing football 30 years ago, I referred to some examples including the Hillsborough disaster and also controversy over hooliganism at matches,” .
“These are two separate issues. There is no connection at all between the Hillsborough disaster and hooliganism – I know that, and I was not implying that there was. I apologise sincerely and wholeheartedly for any misunderstanding.”

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 01:44:52 PM
I read it as two separate issues.. I suppose you see what you want to see.. By all means hit him if he has brought it up in the past
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 05, 2022, 02:05:04 PM
The word "other" doing a lot of the heavy lifting here. Poor phrasing and theres little doubt hes not a Pool fan but id give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Wont stop the fume though...
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on August 05, 2022, 02:39:45 PM
I read it as two separate issues.. I suppose you see what you want to see.. By all means hit him if he has brought it up in the past

Do you not know the meaning of the word "other"?
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: markl121 on August 05, 2022, 02:41:09 PM
Not one bit shocked regarding Tyler. Has hated Liverpool for years and his "apology" was an apology that people misunderstood as opposed to apologising for saying it. When you hear him say it its cool and calm and deliberate. Hope he gets banned from Anfield.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on August 05, 2022, 02:41:54 PM
The word "other" doing a lot of the heavy lifting here. Poor phrasing and theres little doubt hes not a Pool fan but id give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Wont stop the fume though...

I'd say putting the words "Hillsborough" and "hooligan" in the same sentence does alot of the lifting.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 05, 2022, 02:49:12 PM
"Football was a bit shit in the late 80s. We'd had Hillsborough, we had trouble with hooligans and other stuff"

Not easy to be word perfect in a live interview. Like i say id give him benefit of the doubt. Maybe shouldve been asked for clarification or taken to task straightaway and for this youre then looking at the bbc on this

Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: markl121 on August 05, 2022, 02:51:54 PM
"Football was a bit shit in the late 80s. We'd had Hillsborough, we had trouble with hooligans and other stuff"

Not easy to be word perfect in a live interview. Like i say id give him benefit of the doubt. Maybe shouldve been asked for clarification or taken to task straightaway and for this youre then looking at the bbc on this
he says "Hillsborough and other hooligan related issues" Clear difference
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2022, 02:54:08 PM
Not one bit shocked regarding Tyler. Has hated Liverpool for years and his "apology" was an apology that people misunderstood as opposed to apologising for saying it. When you hear him say it its cool and calm and deliberate. Hope he gets banned from Anfield.

The f**king state of this. Between this and your manufactured outrage at northern fenians at the commonwealth games, you're having quite a week.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: RedHand88 on August 05, 2022, 02:54:35 PM
"Football was a bit shit in the late 80s. We'd had Hillsborough, we had trouble with hooligans and other stuff"

Not easy to be word perfect in a live interview. Like i say id give him benefit of the doubt. Maybe shouldve been asked for clarification or taken to task straightaway and for this youre then looking at the bbc on this

Cant even get the quote right ffs. If he'd said what you typed it would have been fine.  But he didn't. He said something completely different.
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 05, 2022, 02:55:39 PM
“Hillsborough and other, hooligan related, issues.”
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 02:57:46 PM
"Football was a bit shit in the late 80s. We'd had Hillsborough, we had trouble with hooligans and other stuff"

Not easy to be word perfect in a live interview. Like i say id give him benefit of the doubt. Maybe shouldve been asked for clarification or taken to task straightaway and for this youre then looking at the bbc on this
he says "Hillsborough and other hooligan related issues" Clear difference

He didn't say hooligans caused Hillsborough. It's like looking for something to beat them with.. Bit like Jamie and his view on the GAA, a slip up and in it goes
Title: Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
Post by: markl121 on August 05, 2022, 02:58:24 PM