More Dissident-Republican Activity

[Eamonnca1]

You are indulging in good old Islamophobia, gays are not killed for being gay in Iran,

What's this then? Scotch mist?

Iran publicly hangs man found guilty of homosexuality charges: report

A man was publicly hanged in the Islamic Republic of Iran after being found guilty of homosexuality charges, according to the Jerusalem Post.

The 31-year-old Iranian man reportedly violated Iran's strict anti-gay laws, according to the state-controlled Iranian Students' News Agency.


The man, who was not identified, was hanged publicly on January 10 in the city of Kazeroon.

He was charged and found guilty of having intercourse with another man, which is punishable by the death penalty in Iran.

The state-run news agency also reported that the man was found guilty of kidnapping charges for abducting two 15-year olds.

The Jerusalem Post reports that there is virtually no way to independently verify those charges due to Iran's shrouded and complex judicial system.

"The LGBT community in Iran has lived in terror for the last 40 years," Alireza Nader, CEO of Washington, D.C.-based advocacy organization New Iran, told the Post. "Next time Foreign Minister Zarif speaks in Washington, the host and audience should ask him why his regime is one of the top executioner of gays in the world."

Iran's theocratic authoritarian regime has strict laws regarding sexuality and has reportedly executed thousands of homosexuals since the Islamic Revolution in 1979.

The U.S. currently has imposed strict sanctions on Iran since President Trump took office after the sanctions were lifted as a result of the Iran nuclear deal under former President Obama

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Michelle O'Neill's interview on channel 4 is an embarrassment. Saying she wants peace to work but wants the governments to sort it out. Washing her hands of the issue. Blaming DUP.
Rights, equality bullshit mantra again. What about the rights of our children's education, or those accessing the health service.

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In addition, PIRA good, dissident IRA bad is a crazy position for someone to support.

[BennyCake]

Michelle O'Neill's interview on channel 4 is an embarrassment. Saying she wants peace to work but wants the governments to sort it out. Washing her hands of the issue. Blaming DUP.
Rights, equality bullshit mantra again. What about the rights of our children's education, or those accessing the health service.

They know they can't do anything about education, health etc, so they distract people from that with this equality mantra. Divert from their own uselessness and inadequacies and point the finger at themmuns.

Sadly, most people can't see this is what they're about, and go out and vote for them again and again.

[BennyCake]

Arms folded. Doesn't give One flying..

Unionists have been resisting reality since the 1960s.
They are losers. Even Arlene had to concede and clap in the end.

Their own people in their 20s leave and never return
The Unionist population fell by 14% since 1989, a direct result.

I think you got the 9 and 6 mixed up.

[tonto1888]

Michelle O'Neill's interview on channel 4 is an embarrassment. Saying she wants peace to work but wants the governments to sort it out. Washing her hands of the issue. Blaming DUP.
Rights, equality bullshit mantra again. What about the rights of our children's education, or those accessing the health service.

They know they can't do anything about education, health etc, so they distract people from that with this equality mantra. Divert from their own uselessness and inadequacies and point the finger at themmuns.

Sadly, most people can't see this is what they're about, and go out and vote for them again and again.

Works both ways. Who is the alternative to vote for? In the upcoming elections I will vote for Keith Haughian. He has been doing a lot of work the past couple of years in my area and deserves my vote. If there was a Stormont election I genuinely don't know who I would vote for

[Main Street]

You are indulging in good old Islamophobia, gays are not killed for being gay in Iran,

What's this then? Scotch mist?

Iran publicly hangs man found guilty of homosexuality charges: report

A man was publicly hanged in the Islamic Republic of Iran after being found guilty of homosexuality charges, according to the Jerusalem Post.

The 31-year-old Iranian man reportedly violated Iran's strict anti-gay laws, according to the state-controlled Iranian Students' News Agency.


The man, who was not identified, was hanged publicly on January 10 in the city of Kazeroon.

He was charged and found guilty of having intercourse with another man, which is punishable by the death penalty in Iran.

The state-run news agency also reported that the man was found guilty of kidnapping charges for abducting two 15-year olds.

The Jerusalem Post reports that there is virtually no way to independently verify those charges due to Iran's shrouded and complex judicial system.

"The LGBT community in Iran has lived in terror for the last 40 years," Alireza Nader, CEO of Washington, D.C.-based advocacy organization New Iran, told the Post. "Next time Foreign Minister Zarif speaks in Washington, the host and audience should ask him why his regime is one of the top executioner of gays in the world."

Iran's theocratic authoritarian regime has strict laws regarding sexuality and has reportedly executed thousands of homosexuals since the Islamic Revolution in 1979.

The U.S. currently has imposed strict sanctions on Iran since President Trump took office after the sanctions were lifted as a result of the Iran nuclear deal under former President Obama

The jerusalem post    Desperation stakes when you have resort to quoting an article sourced from the  JP for a negative story on Iran? are you the most gullible person on the board?

Did you not read this bit?
"The state-run news agency also reported that the man was found guilty of kidnapping charges for abducting two 15-year olds."
Apparently that bit got lost in your Islamophobia frenzy, the criminal had kidnapped and raped 2 teenagers, that what got him the death penalty.

[Main Street]

Why are all those Nordies so against gay rights (which are human rights)?

In Ireland's marriage referendum 4 years ago, 734,300 people voted against it. That's almost 38% of voters.

Like I said before, whether in the north or south, not everyone is in favour of gay rights/marriage.

You just can't mention it in public or you would get lynched by the right on crowd and lose your job

Sounds like a better world to live in than the one where you could lose your job (or in the case of countries like Iran, your life) for being gay.

You are indulging in good old Islamophobia, gays are not killed for being gay in Iran, nevertheless, gays are at risk from the reactionary violence of homophobes/religious nutcases in many places around the world, including USA. 
In any case, unlike the state assisted murders of  Pat Finucane or Rosemary Nelson, Lyra was not murdered for who she was or what she stood for, she was just caught in the wrong place.

There are anti homosexuality laws in Iran and the sentence is death

Yes but homosexuals are not being killed for being homosexuals in Iran, as was claimed.

So what are they being killed for?

Are you afflicted with semantic confusion?
Homosexuals are not being killed for the crime of being a homosexual.
If you want information on Iran, go do some research, it has been known to help some people overcome prejudices.

I'm seeing if you know. Which you don't. Do you know anything about the penal code in Iran? People literally get put to death if they are caught having homosexual sex. Granted it is if they have been caught a few times before and have received lashes before. There are less harsh sentences which cover things like kissing but sodomy will ultimately carry a death sentence

"People literally get put to death?"  as opposed to what? non-literal?
Have you got any literal numbers?
Iran Human Rights Monitor report that 50 lashes is the common  penalty imposed for being found guilty of being gay.

IHRM also report  "At least 283 executions including 11 in public were carried out in 2018. The real numbers were likely to be much higher as use of capital punishment in Iran is often shrouded in secrecy. Most of those executed during the period in question were sentenced to death for smuggling, narcotics, and murder."

The USA has 3 times higher incarceration rate than Iran.

[dec]

Amnesty International

https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/discrimination/lgbt-rights/

"Same-sex sexual activity is a crime in 72 countries, and can get you a death sentence in eight countries, including Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Yemen. "

[tonto1888]

Why are all those Nordies so against gay rights (which are human rights)?

In Ireland's marriage referendum 4 years ago, 734,300 people voted against it. That's almost 38% of voters.

Like I said before, whether in the north or south, not everyone is in favour of gay rights/marriage.

You just can't mention it in public or you would get lynched by the right on crowd and lose your job

Sounds like a better world to live in than the one where you could lose your job (or in the case of countries like Iran, your life) for being gay.

You are indulging in good old Islamophobia, gays are not killed for being gay in Iran, nevertheless, gays are at risk from the reactionary violence of homophobes/religious nutcases in many places around the world, including USA. 
In any case, unlike the state assisted murders of  Pat Finucane or Rosemary Nelson, Lyra was not murdered for who she was or what she stood for, she was just caught in the wrong place.

There are anti homosexuality laws in Iran and the sentence is death

Yes but homosexuals are not being killed for being homosexuals in Iran, as was claimed.

So what are they being killed for?

Are you afflicted with semantic confusion?
Homosexuals are not being killed for the crime of being a homosexual.
If you want information on Iran, go do some research, it has been known to help some people overcome prejudices.

I'm seeing if you know. Which you don't. Do you know anything about the penal code in Iran? People literally get put to death if they are caught having homosexual sex. Granted it is if they have been caught a few times before and have received lashes before. There are less harsh sentences which cover things like kissing but sodomy will ultimately carry a death sentence

"People literally get put to death?"  as opposed to what? non-literal?
Have you got any literal numbers?
Human Rights Watch report that 50 lashes is the penalty imposed for being found guilty of a homosexual activity.

HRW also report  "At least 283 executions including 11 in public were carried out in 2018. The real numbers were likely to be much higher as use of capital punishment in Iran is often shrouded in secrecy. Most of those executed during the period in question were sentenced to death for smuggling, narcotics, and murder."

The USA has 3 times higher incarceration rate than Iran.

You found human rights watch. Well done. I suggest searching through refworld also.
Now who is being pedantic over the use of the word literally. You know why I used it. Lashes is a punishment, I did mention that, thonit isn't the punishment for any homosexual activity. The penal code allows for the death sentence and it does get used. And no, I don't have any numbers off hand. As you are using HRW perhaps you know the actual numbers for those out to death? Didnit me toon Christian conversion?

[Main Street]

Amnesty International

https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/discrimination/lgbt-rights/

"Same-sex sexual activity is a crime in 72 countries, and can get you a death sentence in eight countries, including Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Yemen. "

Yes the death penalty is on the books but is it imposed?  IHRM state that 50 lashes is the imposed punishment.

[smelmoth]

Isn't it sad that a Party gets criticised for supporting equal human rights for all humans?

Isn't it sad that the term 'human rights' is bandied to score points on a discussion board?

Was it "bandied about" or used accurately?

[smelmoth]

In any case, unlike the state assisted murders of  Pat Finucane or Rosemary Nelson, Lyra was not murdered for who she was or what she stood for, she was just caught in the wrong place.

What a truly strange angle to take???

If the bullet had killed a police officer which of the 2 groups would they have fallen into?

[smelmoth]

Nothing will change. There is no political will to compromise and worse no votes to be gained. This murder while sad and repulsive, it will unfortunately not make one iota of difference.

Eventually the electorate will tire of waiting on the political will of SF & DUP. There are other options and possibly yet more will emerge

[smelmoth]

Arlene Foster not too keen to applaud Fr.Magill. he called them all out   ...they must be  seriously embrassed.

I agree completely with what the priest said. I think all of the politicians should have sat there shame faced. None of them should have stood or applauded at that point.