Anyone know of anyone in the Craigavon/Portadown/Lurgan area with a good reputation for quality and cost when it comes to installing stoves?
I have been thinking of installing one of these stoves too. If I get any joy, I'll pass on the details.
Why don't you get the supplier to install it?
killeen hardware on the newry road outa armagh seem to have a good selection. for quality buy 'stanley' they are a bit more expensive but you have good back up for parts,advice etc. by the way dont bother with a wood burning stove unless you have loads of crap to burn eg pallets/hedge timber and time to saw it and petrol for your chainsaw. because if your gonna buy coal/logs you wont save a penny. it simply isnt economic because the stoves are less efficient at creating heat. your better just buying more oil and spending more on insulation.
Don t buy an insert stove. Buy a free stander if you buy anything.
Insert I bought last year --------- RUBBISH & EXPENSIVE
Beware of Stanley stoves - all their castings come from China now. I bought a Charnwood and there's deadly heat out of it just burning pallets etc.
Quote from: lawnseed on March 16, 2013, 07:51:01 AM
killeen hardware on the newry road outa armagh seem to have a good selection. for quality buy 'stanley' they are a bit more expensive but you have good back up for parts,advice etc. by the way dont bother with a wood burning stove unless you have loads of crap to burn eg pallets/hedge timber and time to saw it and petrol for your chainsaw. because if your gonna buy coal/logs you wont save a penny. it simply isnt economic because the stoves are less efficient at creating heat. your better just buying more oil and spending more on insulation.
Less efficient than what? A cast iron stove releases heat for hours after the fire has gone out so are much better than an open fire.
The supplier can install or recommend an installer. There isn't much to it and me and the bror in law did mine.
Has anyone got a stanley recently. Was thinking if getting one for the new house. Had heard that they are made in china now. Have heard good reports about charnwood but I like the look of the stanley
I have a multi fuel stove, a relative paid big money for it and sold it for a good price. Lit 5 or 6 times as neighbours crying about smoke. Need it put in properly. Currently have a cast iron insert fireplace. Got a quote of 1250 to put it in and have chimney lined, can't be that dear really?
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 16, 2013, 10:12:11 PM
I have a multi fuel stove, a relative paid big money for it and sold it for a good price. Lit 5 or 6 times as neighbours crying about smoke. Need it put in properly. Currently have a cast iron insert fireplace. Got a quote of 1250 to put it in and have chimney lined, can't be that dear really?
What the f**k?! Ring me at work on Monday.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 16, 2013, 10:12:11 PM
I have a multi fuel stove, a relative paid big money for it and sold it for a good price. Lit 5 or 6 times as neighbours crying about smoke. Need it put in properly. Currently have a cast iron insert fireplace. Got a quote of 1250 to put it in and have chimney lined, can't be that dear really?
The big money there is cost of lining the chimney, though you may not need to have it done. If your house is in NI and built since the mid-60s the chimney is already lined. In that case all you have to do is put the stove in the fireplace, put flue up the chimney and seal the gap around the entrace to the chimney - Molloys on Kilvergan Rd in the 'Kesh cut me a mm accurate piece of plate iron for less than £20. Cut a 5mm grove around fireplace above stove and slide the plate into it. Seal around edges with fire cement and you good to go. Total cost of fitting mine was about £40.
Quote from: Ulick on March 16, 2013, 11:31:42 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 16, 2013, 10:12:11 PM
I have a multi fuel stove, a relative paid big money for it and sold it for a good price. Lit 5 or 6 times as neighbours crying about smoke. Need it put in properly. Currently have a cast iron insert fireplace. Got a quote of 1250 to put it in and have chimney lined, can't be that dear really?
The big money there is cost of lining the chimney, though you may not need to have it done. If your house is in NI and built since the mid-60s the chimney is already lined. In that case all you have to do is put the stove in the fireplace, put flue up the chimney and seal the gap around the entrace to the chimney - Molloys on Kilvergan Rd in the 'Kesh cut me a mm accurate piece of plate iron for less than £20. Cut a 5mm grove around fireplace above stove and slide the plate into it. Seal around edges with fire cement and you good to go. Total cost of fitting mine was about £40.
Listen to this man. If the house is relatively modern it is unlikely that you need a liner. I didn't line mine - I fitted a piece of fireboard inside the chimney with a hole cut out for the flue pipe, set the stove in place put one end of the flue pipe up through the fireboard and the other into the top of the stove. Fire cement on top of the stove and heat resistant silicone at the join with the fireboard. Would reckon less than 20 quid all in.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2013, 06:02:42 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on March 16, 2013, 07:51:01 AM
killeen hardware on the newry road outa armagh seem to have a good selection. for quality buy 'stanley' they are a bit more expensive but you have good back up for parts,advice etc. by the way dont bother with a wood burning stove unless you have loads of crap to burn eg pallets/hedge timber and time to saw it and petrol for your chainsaw. because if your gonna buy coal/logs you wont save a penny. it simply isnt economic because the stoves are less efficient at creating heat. your better just buying more oil and spending more on insulation.
Less efficient than what? A cast iron stove releases heat for hours after the fire has gone out so are much better than an open fire.
The supplier can install or recommend an installer. There isn't much to it and me and the bror in law did mine.
Less efficient than oil..
Quote from: Hereiam on March 16, 2013, 09:23:51 PM
Has anyone got a stanley recently. Was thinking if getting one for the new house. Had heard that they are made in china now. Have heard good reports about charnwood but I like the look of the stanley
they might be made in china but its to irish spec and theyre designed here so they should be ok. dont buy a welded stove
I like the sound of your method Baloney but why such an emphasis on lining the chimney etc and at thon cost. Don't want a delboy job.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 19, 2013, 04:13:18 PM
I like the sound of your method Baloney but why such an emphasis on lining the chimney etc and at thon cost. Don't want a delboy job.
A pellet stove is the way to go brilliant altogether and very cheap to run.
I don't have one, wish I did but a mate does that lives over here and they are fantastic and economical.
My brother in law has been selling stoves for a good few years now in Cookstown, and if anyone wants any help or advice, drop me a pm and I will send you on his number.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 19, 2013, 04:13:18 PM
I like the sound of your method Baloney but why such an emphasis on lining the chimney etc and at thon cost. Don't want a delboy job.
Lining is advisable but not mandatory as it will help the chimney draw better and of there are any leaks in the chimney will prevent you getting poisoned!
http://www.ukstoves.co.uk/technical-information (http://www.ukstoves.co.uk/technical-information)
What exactly is being supplied in terms of material and labour for the quoted figure? Is there any construction work involved i.e. making the recess bigger, brickwork etc? If it is simply to pull the existing fire out and put a new stove in place with a chimney liner then he is taking the hand.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 19, 2013, 04:13:18 PM
I like the sound of your method Baloney but why such an emphasis on lining the chimney etc and at thon cost. Don't want a delboy job.
Lining is advisable but not mandatory as it will help the chimney draw better and of there are any leaks in the chimney will prevent you getting poisoned!
http://www.ukstoves.co.uk/technical-information (http://www.ukstoves.co.uk/technical-information)
What exactly is being supplied in terms of material and labour for the quoted figure? Is there any construction work involved i.e. making the recess bigger, brickwork etc? If it is simply to pull the existing fire out and put a new stove in place with a chimney liner then he is taking the hand.
Pulling the old fireplace out, using metal surround instead of brick, putting stove in and connecting it to the chimney.
I went looking recently about a stove also and was told by numerous people to stay away from the Stanley ones as they are now being produced in China and not of the same quality as the older ones. I was advised to go for an Innis one which are made in Galway and are a steel construction or a Douvre which are scandivian and are cast iron . The brother has an Innis one in for 2 - 3 years and never had a bother with it also 5 year warranty with them and parts are easy to get also
Quote from: NP 76 on March 20, 2013, 11:12:06 AM
I went looking recently about a stove also and was told by numerous people to stay away from the Stanley ones as they are now being produced in China and not of the same quality as the older ones. I was advised to go for an Innis one which are made in Galway and are a steel construction or a Douvre which are scandivian and are cast iron . The brother has an Innis one in for 2 - 3 years and never had a bother with it also 5 year warranty with them and parts are easy to get also
when did they start to be produced in china? my house was built in 2009 and a stanley was put in at the time.
i dont know thats what i was told about them but then again thats maybe only the opinion of the people who were telling me
I've a charnwood Island 3B and its the spotty dog, but I've noticed the rope for sealing the doors is coming away and need replaced. Is that something you can do yourself or better to get someone to service it?
Anybody recommend someone to install one?
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 20, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
Anybody recommend someone to install one?
My builders put it in place and sealed up round the flue, and the plumber did the rest as it had a back boiler.
Quote from: johnneycool on March 20, 2013, 12:06:39 PM
I've a charnwood Island 3B and its the spotty dog, but I've noticed the rope for sealing the doors is coming away and need replaced. Is that something you can do yourself or better to get someone to service it?
I got spare rope with mine so assume it is a DIY job (although my stove is Morso).
Not putting in a back-boiler on the stove is the most idiotic thing I did in our house.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 20, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
Anybody recommend someone to install one?
Stop hijacking this thread.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 20, 2013, 01:18:55 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 20, 2013, 12:06:39 PM
I've a charnwood Island 3B and its the spotty dog, but I've noticed the rope for sealing the doors is coming away and need replaced. Is that something you can do yourself or better to get someone to service it?
I got spare rope with mine so assume it is a DIY job (although my stove is Morso).
Not putting in a back-boiler on the stove is the most idiotic thing I did in our house.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 20, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
Did you get anything to stick it in place or does it jam in the doors recess?
Some stove info
http://www.mylovelystove.co.uk/
Quote from: johnneycool on March 20, 2013, 01:52:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 20, 2013, 01:18:55 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 20, 2013, 12:06:39 PM
I've a charnwood Island 3B and its the spotty dog, but I've noticed the rope for sealing the doors is coming away and need replaced. Is that something you can do yourself or better to get someone to service it?
I got spare rope with mine so assume it is a DIY job (although my stove is Morso).
Not putting in a back-boiler on the stove is the most idiotic thing I did in our house.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 20, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
Did you get anything to stick it in place or does it jam in the doors recess?
I haven't replaced it yet but will have to check it. Wee slather of fire cement is recommended, I might even have got a wee tube of it but I'm sure it is as hard as the road now.
Got a price today from Portadown Fireplaces for a Vitrus flue, flexi flue, adapters for bottom and top, stainless steel flue for through the roof ... £700 materials alone. Think they are taking the piss!?
Quote from: balladmaker on March 21, 2013, 10:10:59 PM
Got a price today from Portadown Fireplaces for a Vitrus flue, flexi flue, adapters for bottom and top, stainless steel flue for through the roof ... £700 materials alone. Think they are taking the piss!?
No I have heard that the chimney materials alone can be as much as £180 per metre.
Anyone have an inset stove as opposed to the free standing yokes? Any good?
i Fitted an inset stove at home last year, now that i have it in its grand plenty of heat etc but what a bolllix of a thing it was to fit. i regret not pulling the fireplace out and fitting a stand alone stove, would've been a much better job.
Quote from: overdabar on May 10, 2013, 12:05:25 PM
i Fitted an inset stove at home last year, now that i have it in its grand plenty of heat etc but what a bolllix of a thing it was to fit. i regret not pulling the fireplace out and fitting a stand alone stove, would've been a much better job.
Is the heat output from the stove good? Is it sore on electric?
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 10, 2013, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: overdabar on May 10, 2013, 12:05:25 PM
i Fitted an inset stove at home last year, now that i have it in its grand plenty of heat etc but what a bolllix of a thing it was to fit. i regret not pulling the fireplace out and fitting a stand alone stove, would've been a much better job.
Is the heat output from the stove good? Is it sore on electric?
nrico that woman of your must be a wild cold woman, we're all warm now for the next 5 months so don't be worrying about heat for a while yet...lol. burn that hurley of yours should keep her warm for an hour ;) (only messin saan)
If you make up your mind what your looking give me a buzz and i'll see if i can get it cheaper for you...
Quote from: illdecide on May 10, 2013, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 10, 2013, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: overdabar on May 10, 2013, 12:05:25 PM
i Fitted an inset stove at home last year, now that i have it in its grand plenty of heat etc but what a bolllix of a thing it was to fit. i regret not pulling the fireplace out and fitting a stand alone stove, would've been a much better job.
Is the heat output from the stove good? Is it sore on electric?
nrico that woman of your must be a wild cold woman, we're all warm now for the next 5 months so don't be worrying about heat for a while yet...lol. burn that hurley of yours should keep her warm for an hour ;) (only messin saan)
If you make up your mind what your looking give me a buzz and i'll see if i can get it cheaper for you...
Been looking a stove for a while and trying to get it sorted now when its not needed. Got a quote for an inset stove at around £1100 all in, been told that its not advisable to install a free standing stove with a wood surround. Not interested in getting a new surround too. The woman is a wile doll for complaining about being cold.
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 10, 2013, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 10, 2013, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 10, 2013, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: overdabar on May 10, 2013, 12:05:25 PM
i Fitted an inset stove at home last year, now that i have it in its grand plenty of heat etc but what a bolllix of a thing it was to fit. i regret not pulling the fireplace out and fitting a stand alone stove, would've been a much better job.
Is the heat output from the stove good? Is it sore on electric?
nrico that woman of your must be a wild cold woman, we're all warm now for the next 5 months so don't be worrying about heat for a while yet...lol. burn that hurley of yours should keep her warm for an hour ;) (only messin saan)
If you make up your mind what your looking give me a buzz and i'll see if i can get it cheaper for you...
Been looking a stove for a while and trying to get it sorted now when its not needed. Got a quote for an inset stove at around £1100 all in, been told that its not advisable to install a free standing stove with a wood surround. Not interested in getting a new surround too. The woman is a wile doll for complaining about being cold.
Them women are renowned for being cold around that neck of the woods...if you want i'll get it priced for you too so at least you'll know your not being ripped off...
Quote from: illdecide on May 10, 2013, 03:52:30 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 10, 2013, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 10, 2013, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 10, 2013, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: overdabar on May 10, 2013, 12:05:25 PM
i Fitted an inset stove at home last year, now that i have it in its grand plenty of heat etc but what a bolllix of a thing it was to fit. i regret not pulling the fireplace out and fitting a stand alone stove, would've been a much better job.
Is the heat output from the stove good? Is it sore on electric?
nrico that woman of your must be a wild cold woman, we're all warm now for the next 5 months so don't be worrying about heat for a while yet...lol. burn that hurley of yours should keep her warm for an hour ;) (only messin saan)
If you make up your mind what your looking give me a buzz and i'll see if i can get it cheaper for you...
Been looking a stove for a while and trying to get it sorted now when its not needed. Got a quote for an inset stove at around £1100 all in, been told that its not advisable to install a free standing stove with a wood surround. Not interested in getting a new surround too. The woman is a wile doll for complaining about being cold.
Them women are renowned for being cold around that neck of the woods...if you want i'll get it priced for you too so at least you'll know your not being ripped off...
PM me a number of someone who you would recommend, good man.
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 10, 2013, 11:41:07 AM
Anyone have an inset stove as opposed to the free standing yokes? Any good?
Bought a Stanley insert stove last year. Really disappointed .
Can barely feel the heat when I walk into the room.
Have a stove on the go for a few months and there is some heat coming from it. Have a wooden surround that was originally there with the fireplace before the stove was installed. The installer didn't recommend my chimney needing lined due to the house being only 7 years old. I have a minor problem though, in that there is sometimes a strange smell emitted from the stove. This smell is not consistently there, and to be honest I can't even describe what it is like. On the days it does appear, it would seem that it could be caused by the outlaw as she is in the housewatching the waines and lights the stove. She would have the primary and secondary air inlets pretty much closed. There has been a few ocassions thought that I have noticed the smell and I wonder if it is coming from the wooden surround which feels hot at the point right above the stove. Another possibility - could it be the smell of creosote? I had a day or two where the logs were not as seasoned as my supplier had told me they were, and ended up burning damp logs. Would this have been enough to cause serious creosote issues and if so what would that smell be like? My final possibility is concerned with the draw, should my room have been fitted with a vent (like I've seen in other houses above the living room door) to aid in the air supply to the room when the living room door is closed? In saying that, the living room door is never closed when the stove is on. The smell isn't there every day and as mentioned it only really becomes prominent after a few hours. Does anybody know of anyone who specialises in stoves/heating appliances that could be of any help?
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 17, 2013, 02:15:48 PM
Have a stove on the go for a few months and there is some heat coming from it. Have a wooden surround that was originally there with the fireplace before the stove was installed. The installer didn't recommend my chimney needing lined due to the house being only 7 years old. I have a minor problem though, in that there is sometimes a strange smell emitted from the stove. This smell is not consistently there, and to be honest I can't even describe what it is like. On the days it does appear, it would seem that it could be caused by the outlaw as she is in the housewatching the waines and lights the stove. She would have the primary and secondary air inlets pretty much closed. There has been a few ocassions thought that I have noticed the smell and I wonder if it is coming from the wooden surround which feels hot at the point right above the stove. Another possibility - could it be the smell of creosote? I had a day or two where the logs were not as seasoned as my supplier had told me they were, and ended up burning damp logs. Would this have been enough to cause serious creosote issues and if so what would that smell be like? My final possibility is concerned with the draw, should my room have been fitted with a vent (like I've seen in other houses above the living room door) to aid in the air supply to the room when the living room door is closed? In saying that, the living room door is never closed when the stove is on. The smell isn't there every day and as mentioned it only really becomes prominent after a few hours. Does anybody know of anyone who specialises in stoves/heating appliances that could be of any help?
Possible, I recently put a wooden surround around mine and while reading into it the recommendation is that there is a 14" gap between the stove and surround - ended up getting a mate to make me a metal inset for between the stove and surround. You will also get burning-in smells for the month or two. Doubt it's creosote, you'd need to be burning unseasoned wood for a long time for that to become an issue.
Quote from: Ulick on December 17, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 17, 2013, 02:15:48 PM
Have a stove on the go for a few months and there is some heat coming from it. Have a wooden surround that was originally there with the fireplace before the stove was installed. The installer didn't recommend my chimney needing lined due to the house being only 7 years old. I have a minor problem though, in that there is sometimes a strange smell emitted from the stove. This smell is not consistently there, and to be honest I can't even describe what it is like. On the days it does appear, it would seem that it could be caused by the outlaw as she is in the housewatching the waines and lights the stove. She would have the primary and secondary air inlets pretty much closed. There has been a few ocassions thought that I have noticed the smell and I wonder if it is coming from the wooden surround which feels hot at the point right above the stove. Another possibility - could it be the smell of creosote? I had a day or two where the logs were not as seasoned as my supplier had told me they were, and ended up burning damp logs. Would this have been enough to cause serious creosote issues and if so what would that smell be like? My final possibility is concerned with the draw, should my room have been fitted with a vent (like I've seen in other houses above the living room door) to aid in the air supply to the room when the living room door is closed? In saying that, the living room door is never closed when the stove is on. The smell isn't there every day and as mentioned it only really becomes prominent after a few hours. Does anybody know of anyone who specialises in stoves/heating appliances that could be of any help?
Possible, I recently put a wooden surround around mine and while reading into it the recommendation is that there is a 14" gap between the stove and surround - ended up getting a mate to make me a metal inset for between the stove and surround. You will also get burning-in smells for the month or two. Doubt it's creosote, you'd need to be burning unseasoned wood for a long time for that to become an issue.
I get the odd smell from my stove as well, I put it down to the dirty nappies I lob into it when the need arises ;D
Quote from: Ulick on December 17, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 17, 2013, 02:15:48 PM
Have a stove on the go for a few months and there is some heat coming from it. Have a wooden surround that was originally there with the fireplace before the stove was installed. The installer didn't recommend my chimney needing lined due to the house being only 7 years old. I have a minor problem though, in that there is sometimes a strange smell emitted from the stove. This smell is not consistently there, and to be honest I can't even describe what it is like. On the days it does appear, it would seem that it could be caused by the outlaw as she is in the housewatching the waines and lights the stove. She would have the primary and secondary air inlets pretty much closed. There has been a few ocassions thought that I have noticed the smell and I wonder if it is coming from the wooden surround which feels hot at the point right above the stove. Another possibility - could it be the smell of creosote? I had a day or two where the logs were not as seasoned as my supplier had told me they were, and ended up burning damp logs. Would this have been enough to cause serious creosote issues and if so what would that smell be like? My final possibility is concerned with the draw, should my room have been fitted with a vent (like I've seen in other houses above the living room door) to aid in the air supply to the room when the living room door is closed? In saying that, the living room door is never closed when the stove is on. The smell isn't there every day and as mentioned it only really becomes prominent after a few hours. Does anybody know of anyone who specialises in stoves/heating appliances that could be of any help?
Possible, I recently put a wooden surround around mine and while reading into it the recommendation is that there is a 14" gap between the stove and surround - ended up getting a mate to make me a metal inset for between the stove and surround. You will also get burning-in smells for the month or two. Doubt it's creosote, you'd need to be burning unseasoned wood for a long time for that to become an issue.
You got any pictures of this metal inset and how that looks? Did you notice your wooden surround getting hot or any smells?
Quote from: johnneycool on December 17, 2013, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Ulick on December 17, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 17, 2013, 02:15:48 PM
Have a stove on the go for a few months and there is some heat coming from it. Have a wooden surround that was originally there with the fireplace before the stove was installed. The installer didn't recommend my chimney needing lined due to the house being only 7 years old. I have a minor problem though, in that there is sometimes a strange smell emitted from the stove. This smell is not consistently there, and to be honest I can't even describe what it is like. On the days it does appear, it would seem that it could be caused by the outlaw as she is in the housewatching the waines and lights the stove. She would have the primary and secondary air inlets pretty much closed. There has been a few ocassions thought that I have noticed the smell and I wonder if it is coming from the wooden surround which feels hot at the point right above the stove. Another possibility - could it be the smell of creosote? I had a day or two where the logs were not as seasoned as my supplier had told me they were, and ended up burning damp logs. Would this have been enough to cause serious creosote issues and if so what would that smell be like? My final possibility is concerned with the draw, should my room have been fitted with a vent (like I've seen in other houses above the living room door) to aid in the air supply to the room when the living room door is closed? In saying that, the living room door is never closed when the stove is on. The smell isn't there every day and as mentioned it only really becomes prominent after a few hours. Does anybody know of anyone who specialises in stoves/heating appliances that could be of any help?
Possible, I recently put a wooden surround around mine and while reading into it the recommendation is that there is a 14" gap between the stove and surround - ended up getting a mate to make me a metal inset for between the stove and surround. You will also get burning-in smells for the month or two. Doubt it's creosote, you'd need to be burning unseasoned wood for a long time for that to become an issue.
I get the odd smell from my stove as well, I put it down to the dirty nappies I lob into it when the need arises ;D
jeez jonny quit putting crap in that stove. we used to do that as well until one day the smoke filled the room. I had to get up on the roof the dirt had the chimney closed in to about the size of 50p. I took 5 or 6 builders bucket of hard tarlike material out of the flue may as well gassed everyone in the house
Have been using my Stanley stove now for about 2 weeks. Great job, had concerns about it not been able to heat all the radiators but so far so good. The one regret is that I didn't plumb it up to the underfloor system which I have since found out can be done.
Quote from: lawnseed on December 17, 2013, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 17, 2013, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Ulick on December 17, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 17, 2013, 02:15:48 PM
Have a stove on the go for a few months and there is some heat coming from it. Have a wooden surround that was originally there with the fireplace before the stove was installed. The installer didn't recommend my chimney needing lined due to the house being only 7 years old. I have a minor problem though, in that there is sometimes a strange smell emitted from the stove. This smell is not consistently there, and to be honest I can't even describe what it is like. On the days it does appear, it would seem that it could be caused by the outlaw as she is in the housewatching the waines and lights the stove. She would have the primary and secondary air inlets pretty much closed. There has been a few ocassions thought that I have noticed the smell and I wonder if it is coming from the wooden surround which feels hot at the point right above the stove. Another possibility - could it be the smell of creosote? I had a day or two where the logs were not as seasoned as my supplier had told me they were, and ended up burning damp logs. Would this have been enough to cause serious creosote issues and if so what would that smell be like? My final possibility is concerned with the draw, should my room have been fitted with a vent (like I've seen in other houses above the living room door) to aid in the air supply to the room when the living room door is closed? In saying that, the living room door is never closed when the stove is on. The smell isn't there every day and as mentioned it only really becomes prominent after a few hours. Does anybody know of anyone who specialises in stoves/heating appliances that could be of any help?
Possible, I recently put a wooden surround around mine and while reading into it the recommendation is that there is a 14" gap between the stove and surround - ended up getting a mate to make me a metal inset for between the stove and surround. You will also get burning-in smells for the month or two. Doubt it's creosote, you'd need to be burning unseasoned wood for a long time for that to become an issue.
I get the odd smell from my stove as well, I put it down to the dirty nappies I lob into it when the need arises ;D
jeez jonny quit putting crap in that stove. we used to do that as well until one day the smoke filled the room. I had to get up on the roof the dirt had the chimney closed in to about the size of 50p. I took 5 or 6 builders bucket of hard tarlike material out of the flue may as well gassed everyone in the house
My chimney gets a good roddin every year as I was burning old electricity poles for a while and the heat was unreal but my god they stunk and the tar in the chimney was unreal.
I had my chimney swept in June, Stove has been lit since September. There is one point in my surround (directly above the stove) that gets really hot. Im thinking of getting some vermiculite board and cutting it and screwing it onto this part of the surround. Trial and error at this stage. Would nearly get the chimney swept too just to rule out creosote or tar.
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 17, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
I had my chimney swept in June, Stove has been lit since September. There is one point in my surround (directly above the stove) that gets really hot. Im thinking of getting some vermiculite board and cutting it and screwing it onto this part of the surround. Trial and error at this stage. Would nearly get the chimney swept too just to rule out creosote or tar.
Make sure you have a functioning carbon monoxide sensor in the house. As Ulick says ou can get a good stench off them for the first few months until the paint etc. properly cures. At this stage it should be gone but you could be getting it from the surround. If you burned painted timber etc.you will also get a whiff.
vermiculite board
Be careful with vermiculite - Some of it has asbestos in it and cut edges could make it friable (i.e. possibly airborne)
Lads , Had a tree blown over into Garden last night. Its a decent size. Neighbour offered to cut it up and take it away . remove remaining stump and mend fence for nothing. Just really wondering how much the timber is worth and is he giving me a good deal.
No interest in burning it myself.
Anybody know how much it is to line a chimney? I have seen various estimates before ranging from £600 to £1200.
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 15, 2014, 03:08:11 PM
Anybody know how much it is to line a chimney? I have seen various estimates before ranging from £600 to £1200.
Does it need lined?
Could someone recommend a stove fitter in lurgan area that does a good job abd isnt a rip off merchant. Stove adapter is not sealed right into the chimney
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 02, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
Could someone recommend a stove fitter in lurgan area that does a good job abd isnt a rip off merchant. Stove adapter is not sealed right into the chimney
Ill give u a buzz tomorrow with a name...
Quote from: illdecide on February 03, 2014, 12:54:27 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 02, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
Could someone recommend a stove fitter in lurgan area that does a good job abd isnt a rip off merchant. Stove adapter is not sealed right into the chimney
Ill give u a buzz tomorrow with a name...
Good man
Anybody recommend a good smokeless coal that doesn't leave a crazy amount of ash?
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 09, 2014, 11:10:54 AM
Anybody recommend a good smokeless coal that doesn't leave a crazy amount of ash?
Redflame - normally about £7.50 per 25 bag
Cosyflame - about £9 per 25kg bag
Thanks - tried Phurnacite last winter for a week and it was a nightmare as it left so much ash behind that it basically cut-off the air supply to the stove. Was thinking of trying Ecobrite or Taybrite to see if it was better.
I know its mostly the women nagging at their men for more heat but I think we all get carried away with the heat thing. We don't live in Canada it's Ireland. We get a few cold weeks of the year...so stick your oil/gas boiler on when its cold and heat the fecking house. The oil is at its lowest in a few years so get it sorted... ;)
Need to keep the oil off therefore reducing my boiler use - scandalous costs in the Lurgan/Waringstown area to get them serviced.
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 09, 2014, 01:20:20 PM
Need to keep the oil off therefore reducing my boiler use - scandalous costs in the Lurgan/Waringstown area to get them serviced.
I agree and with comments like that the price could easily fluctuate against the customer ;)
Thinking of installing a multi-fuel stove to replace an existing gas fireplace. Wanted to take out the old fireplace and open it up to insert the new stove into. Have a few quotes from a couple of guys to do this which is working out at £600-800 plus the stove and flexi-liner for the flue after that. Just wondering if that sounds expensive?
Ideally I'd love to be able to get a stove which would heat water but there is no back boiler installed and would have to dig up half the house to get pipework to the fireplace for that. So I'm looking at a Stanley Aoife at the min from Kildress Plumbing who appear to be hard to beat on price. Does anyone have one of these and how do they find it?
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 30, 2015, 12:57:49 PM
Thinking of installing a multi-fuel stove to replace an existing gas fireplace. Wanted to take out the old fireplace and open it up to insert the new stove into. Have a few quotes from a couple of guys to do this which is working out at £600-800 plus the stove and flexi-liner for the flue after that. Just wondering if that sounds expensive?
Ideally I'd love to be able to get a stove which would heat water but there is no back boiler installed and would have to dig up half the house to get pipework to the fireplace for that. So I'm looking at a Stanley Aoife at the min from Kildress Plumbing who appear to be hard to beat on price. Does anyone have one of these and how do they find it?
I went for a straight woodburner, simpler and a bit cheaper than a multifuel. Didn't bother with the back boiler either as they can be problematic and need installed by a plumber who knows what he's at plus tearing the house apart as well. That price sounds reasonable enough. make sure they are including insulation of the flue also to stop any condensation problems. You will need a balance vent if the room is open plan and has a kitchen extract fan in it. Worth every penny come the cold dark nights.
Cheers Last Man. When you say including insulating of the flue how do you mean? I'd plan to install a flexi-liner in the flue, do you mean this needs to be insulated between the liner and the existing flue?
The room is a living room with double doors to dining room which stay open all the time. The dining room has a set of double doors to back of house. The patio doors have a vent on them which I was hoping would be enough to tick that box.
The insulation is between the existing chimney and flex flue. they usually back fill it from the top, think you call it vermiculite. Some installers don't bother but I prefer fit and forget. Sounds like you don't need the wall vent either.
With you now. Yeah it's called vermiculite, that's supposed to be part of the job.