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#526
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
November 03, 2022, 04:04:26 PM
There doesn't seem to be much action on the merry go-round, I heard a few clubs are panicking as the talent pool isn't great.
#527
GAA Discussion / Silent sidelines
November 03, 2022, 10:43:39 AM
I seen a few counties have adopted silent silences up to a certain age. How has it worked and how has it been enforced? This should be across all codes up to u13 IMO

Let the kids make their own decisons
#528
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
November 03, 2022, 08:52:47 AM
A source told me in the Bayside catch yesterday evening that Ronan McCartan is the new manager of Dundrum.
#529
Galway girl  (any version)
#530
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Colleges
November 02, 2022, 03:54:26 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 12, 2022, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 09:12:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PM
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Ulster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it

Their Instagram page is also fairly up-to-date with things as well. However for fixture lists it's tricky to get them, especially with most schools arranging dates/times to suit themselves. I don't think they're published into the GAA GMS either.

Seems that schools are really suspicious of being watched by other teams and wait to the last minute to tell venues to kids and parents.
#531
Quote from: Brendan on November 02, 2022, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 02, 2022, 09:59:29 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 02, 2022, 09:45:47 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on November 02, 2022, 08:05:58 AM
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Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 31, 2022, 04:36:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 31, 2022, 04:22:29 PM
Is Strabane a soccer town ?

Of the four main towns in Tyrone, Strabane would likely be regarded by most in the county as definitely being more strongly influenced by soccer than Gaelic games.


Over 13,000 people (2011), over 90% Nationalist/Catholic background, 55% with Irish identity only.
Tyrone Co Board needs to up their game there I would think.
Westport was pretty soccer orientated but has been turned around to become Mayowestros SF Champions.
Would Newry be vastly different. Should Down GAA not be concentrating efforts there. Derry city would've been mentioned similarly
Newry is a bit of a mess. At least one of their clubs should be competing at senior level given the population.
Half of Newry is in Armagh geographically  don't forget ;). Newry city itself would be dominated by soccer, pints and cocaine these days mostly so doesn't leave much time for the GAA. Bosco and Shamrocks would traditionally have fairly good underage teams but the stereotypical town problem of not being able to get them through to senior level applies

Shur everyone has the cocaine problem these days and the pints have always been there

Ballyholland relegated to div 2 so them and Shamrocks will be a good derby next year. But Newry should get more divison 1 clubs but i expect Ballyholland to get back up soon as they are getting serious numbers at underage .

Bosco are alway great at underage but they cannot get them through, very sad that.
#532
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
November 01, 2022, 02:20:45 PM
Quote from: Johnnysboys on November 01, 2022, 01:12:00 PM


Burren won a senior league title beating Kilcoo in the final, they were beaten by a very good Warrenpoint team in the QF of the senior championship after extra time. It was by no means a disastrous year for Burren, The country and its granny are looking for managers, You would go a long way finding anyone better than McCorry and Adams at this stage of the year. So its a wise decision by the Oligarchs in keeping them. They should win county u20 as well so all bodes well for the future.

I don't get the facilities bit as looking at division 1 all clubs have access to two pitches , lights, indoor hall and a gym so although Burren have a great set up I don't think it gives them that much of an edge.

Burren won a senior league - they have never ever ever talked about or aspired to win senior leagues. They beat Kilcoo in the final and thought for sure they had the championship in the bag. Surely with all the underage success they have had in the last decade they don't need mccorry or Adam's there - there's bound to be coaches galore within the club that could take that group of players to senior championship glory. But that wouldn't satisfy the money men nor get their offspring onto the team..
winning county u20 means nothing - it's that same good group that we have been talking about for the last 5 years - still only 4/5 of them have made the next step to senior football. I don't think they expect many more to make the step up either. The natives wouldn't be impressed with the style of football being played (as seen on Facebook message) so the management start under pressure to change mindsets straight away.. interesting times ahead..
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Style of football changes, Burren v the Point was a game of cat and mouse and could have went either way, the Point were as defensively set up as Burren. The natives are going to have to get used it as the days off knocking 50/50 Hail Marys into Tom Fegan are 40 years gone past.
#533
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
November 01, 2022, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: GAA Madness on November 01, 2022, 11:04:00 AM
Crazy that Burren ratified the same management team for next season, probably gave them more money too, after their lacklustre season. Burren probably have everything they need to win championships and leagues every year but lack the drive and steelyness to do so. Facilities are top notch, which plenty other division 1 teams in Down would kill for, so no excuses for them. Some clubs in division 1 don't have any facilities, believe it or not....

Burren won a senior league title beating Kilcoo in the final, they were beaten by a very good Warrenpoint team in the QF of the senior championship after extra time. It was by no means a disastrous year for Burren, The country and its granny are looking for managers, You would go a long way finding anyone better than McCorry and Adams at this stage of the year. So its a wise decision by the Oligarchs in keeping them. They should win county u20 as well so all bodes well for the future.

I don't get the facilities bit as looking at division 1 all clubs have access to two pitches , lights, indoor hall and a gym so although Burren have a great set up I don't think it gives them that much of an edge.
#534
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 31, 2022, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 31, 2022, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 31, 2022, 02:55:54 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 31, 2022, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 30, 2022, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: DuffGael on October 30, 2022, 02:11:15 PM
If we could get 7 of the bigger clubs to put in a B team to a Div5 it might work. Top 13 would not be enough though. It would need to be 20 at least.

The problem here isn't about whether this is a practical solution. it's a cultural problem.

Getting a group of players, administrators and spectators to go "away" on a Friday night when the first team are at home would take some getting used to. It would require riding out some bad times for a year or two before it becomes normalised. And I don't think people in this era have the patience to ride it out.

Outsider buttin' in here, in Tyrone All-County Football League games involving thirds teams are played on a Saturday afternoon unless their corresponding first team isn't playing that same weekend where instead they play at the same time as all other fixtures in their division/grade. Rarely do such clubs have their first & third teams playing at the same time.

How many of the senior panels caanot play thirds?

Unlike in Down, reserve football is tied to first team performance in Tyrone. Senior & Reserve games are played as double headers i.e. such fixtures on Sundays are/were 2.15pm reserve & 3.45pm senior.

To enter a thirds team in the Tyrone ACFL, you must...

* Declare a panel of 40 players whom are only permitted to play in your first team or reserve team (this list of 40 also includes 12 players whom aren't allowed to play in their reserve or "second" team, assuming these teams play in Division 1 & Division 1 reserve)

* If you also wish to enter a fourth team that is your corresponding reserve team for for thirds team i.e "thirds reserves", you must also declare additional players that can't play for this team (this depends on the Division you play in - in Division 3 it's 9 players, Division 2 it's 10. Since no thirds team in recent history in Tyrone has played in Division 2, it's essentially nine players).

* If a player from outside the initial list of 40 players mentioned above plays for the first team or their corresponding reserve/"second" team, they are no longer eligible to play for the thirds or thirds reserve/"fourth" team(s) for the remainder of that playing year.

* If a player on the list of 40 players mentioned above has not played for either the first team or reserves/"seconds" before 1st July of the competition year, they may be allowed to regrade to play in the thirds or thirds reserves/"fourth" team(s) with permission from the Tyrone CCC.

40 players in a lot greater than 23, very interesting and I dont think many clubs could do that
#535
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 31, 2022, 02:55:54 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 31, 2022, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 30, 2022, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: DuffGael on October 30, 2022, 02:11:15 PM
If we could get 7 of the bigger clubs to put in a B team to a Div5 it might work. Top 13 would not be enough though. It would need to be 20 at least.

The problem here isn't about whether this is a practical solution. it's a cultural problem.

Getting a group of players, administrators and spectators to go "away" on a Friday night when the first team are at home would take some getting used to. It would require riding out some bad times for a year or two before it becomes normalised. And I don't think people in this era have the patience to ride it out.

Outsider buttin' in here, in Tyrone All-County Football League games involving thirds teams are played on a Saturday afternoon unless their corresponding first team isn't playing that same weekend where instead they play at the same time as all other fixtures in their division/grade. Rarely do such clubs have their first & third teams playing at the same time.

How many of the senior panels caanot play thirds?
#536
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 31, 2022, 01:07:05 PM
RIP PJ McElroy, A great of Down GAA
#537
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 31, 2022, 12:36:25 PM
Would clubs even want to field a team there and play at the same time as their seniors? Would there be enough volunteers for scoreboard, umpires etc? This is a pipe dream and I can't see it happening but the top thirds teams in recent years are filled with top players so they would have a field day in the lower leagues.
#538
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 31, 2022, 09:12:45 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on October 31, 2022, 09:06:55 AM
Kilcoos thirds would walk division 4 and probably be in the hunt for promotion out of 3

LOL Burren thirds would be promoted from Divison 3 then

#539
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster club championship
October 31, 2022, 09:07:46 AM
Kilcoo will be laughing at these comments. They are the team to beat, know how to win without being flattering and scraped through a Down championship, Cross v them would be tasty.
#540
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 31, 2022, 08:52:12 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on October 31, 2022, 08:25:46 AM
Just seen a photo or the Carrickmore panel, management and background team. How many are in their management and background team? Looks near enough to be on par with a county setup.

Is this the norm for club teams in Tyrone now?
Errigal probably something similar?

Would most senior teams not have a panel of 40-50 to include their reserve team?