Group A: Bayern Munich, Juventus, Bordeaux, Maccabi Haifa
Group B: MANCHESTER UNITED, CSKA Moscow, Besiktas, Wolfsburg
Group C: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille, FC Zurich
Group D: CHELSEA, FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, APOEL
Group E: LIVERPOOL, Lyon, Fiorentina, Debrecen
Group F: FC Barcelona, Inter Milan, Dinamo Kiev, FC Rubin Kazan
Group G: Sevilla, RANGERS, Stuttgart, Unirea
Group H: ARSENAL, AZ Alkmaar, Olympiakos, Standard
Milan Madrid :o
Inter - Barca
Liverpool - Lyon
United in easy draw shocker
Its a fix Gab ;)
Stuttgart will be loving that group
FIX...redraw
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 27, 2009, 05:36:49 PM
United in easy draw shocker
The travel is a bit of a bollocks though. All the way to Moscow and Turkey.
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
How come the Champions league has teams that haven't been champions for decades?
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
How come the Champions league has teams that haven't been champions for decades?
That doesn't answer my question ???
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
How come the Champions league has teams that haven't been champions for decades?
You dont have to be champions in the last 20 years to get in the CL
i.e Liverpool
3 teams per group ???
dont think he has finished the groups yet
Group H is the easiest group I've ever seen
Rangers have a shout at qualifying too
Liverpool's group is iffy enough I reckon
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 27, 2009, 05:51:56 PM
Group H is the easiest group I've ever seen
Rangers have a shout at qualifying too
Liverpool's group is iffy enough I reckon
Happy enough with our group. Some right tough ones in there.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2009, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 27, 2009, 05:36:49 PM
United in easy draw shocker
The travel is a bit of a bollocks though. All the way to Moscow and Turkey.
Don't agree Gab..
They might have to go to Moscow in the depths of winter,Besiktas and their Welcome to Hell style matches are never easy and Wolfsburg won the German league
Happy enough with Liverpool's group,should be good enough to go through to next round
Gab just cant see the wood for the tree's
His hatred of all things Utd shines through :D
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on August 27, 2009, 05:53:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2009, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 27, 2009, 05:36:49 PM
United in easy draw shocker
The travel is a bit of a bollocks though. All the way to Moscow and Turkey.
Don't agree Gab..
They might have to go to Moscow in the depths of winter,Besiktas and their Welcome to Hell style matches are never easy and Wolfsburg won the German league
United should still qualify but Wolfsburg was the team nobody wanted in pot 4.
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
How come the Champions league has teams that haven't been champions for decades?
That doesn't answer my question ???
Because of TV or security I think..They cant be on same side of the draw as Real as both would have to play same night.
Quote from: full back on August 27, 2009, 05:55:27 PM
Gab just cant see the wood for the tree's
His hatred of all things Utd shines through :D
I actually like the red they use in their shirts - but that's about it ;)
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 27, 2009, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
How come the Champions league has teams that haven't been champions for decades?
That doesn't answer my question ???
Because of TV or security I think..They cant be on same side of the draw as Real as both would have to play same night.
Yeah because there is 4 spanish teams there has to be 2 teams on each side, i.e "red" and "blue, A-D ad E-H respectively. Likewise with the English and German or any country with 2 or more teams.
English teams:
Arsenal: Will be laughing all the way back to the Emirates. No team who can trouble them and may well end up with 18 points. Az Alkmaar have spent big this summer but with this group they can concentrate on the Premiership until the 2nd round where the going will get tougher
Chelsea: Unfortunate that they get a group like this with their revival up and away but will be expecting to qualify. Porto are a good side with some handy players, despite selling many sta players, have brought in good replacements. Atletico will be very dangerous and will be Chelsea's main threat but a Chelsea-Madrid 1-2 is the expected result.
United: A lot of travling involved but the quality of the teams itself shouldn't pose too much of a threat to United. Wolfsburg were the Pot 4 team to avoid but will be aiming for 2nd place at best. A great draw for Sir Alex's men and will be expected to progress with ease.
Liverpool: An interesting one. The only English team not expected to progress easily Liverpool may not even progress. Lyon have spent big this summer after failing to win the French title and their board will be expecting big things, toppling Liverpool will be one of them. They were very impressive in their defeat of Anderlecht and could be the joint favourites for this group. In saying that Fiorentina are still a great side and this group will surely throw up some fantastic matches.
Look forward to the season ahead and hopefully I may see a first ever Champions League win for Chelsea. Wil e a great year and some stunning draws, especially the Milan teams, but this is the reason for paying for Sky Sports.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 06:35:38 PM
English teams:
Arsenal: Will be laughing all the way back to the Emirates. No team who can trouble them and may well end up with 18 points. Az Alkmaar have spent big this summer but with this group they can concentrate on the Premiership until the 2nd round where the going will get tougher
Chelsea: Unfortunate that they get a group like this with their revival up and away but will be expecting to qualify. Porto are a good side with some handy players, despite selling many sta players, have brought in good replacements. Atletico will be very dangerous and will be Chelsea's main threat but a Chelsea-Madrid 1-2 is the expected result.
United: A lot of travling involved but the quality of the teams itself shouldn't pose too much of a threat to United. Wolfsburg were the Pot 4 team to avoid but will be aiming for 2nd place at best. A great draw for Sir Alex's men and will be expected to progress with ease.
Liverpool: An interesting one. The only English team not expected to progress easily Liverpool may not even progress. Lyon have spent big this summer after failing to win the French title and their board will be expecting big things, toppling Liverpool will be one of them. They were very impressive in their defeat of Anderlecht and could be the joint favourites for this group. In saying that Fiorentina are still a great side and this group will surely throw up some fantastic matches.
Look forward to the season ahead and hopefully I may see a first ever Champions League win for Chelsea. Wil e a great year and some stunning draws, especially the Milan teams, but this is the reason for paying for Sky Sports.
A lot of nonsense there
AZ have spent bigThey've spent about £4 million on a couple of lads from small Dutch clubs.
Porto have bought good replacementsI'm intrigued, tell us what you know of Beto, Silvestre Valera, Maicon, Valeri and Prediguer.
A great draw for Sir Alex's menGerman champions, Turkish champions, most consistently successful Russian club over the last 6 or 7 years. Of course United will qualify, but it not like they're playing some Hungarian or Cypriot first timers.
Fiorentina are still a great sideWhat have they done in the last half a dozen years to justify that praise? Italian clubs are a pale shadow of their former selves and Fiorentina are particularly weak having scraped into the Champions League only by beating the mighty Genoa in a playoff.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 27, 2009, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
How come the Champions league has teams that haven't been champions for decades?
That doesn't answer my question ???
Because of TV or security I think..They cant be on same side of the draw as Real as both would have to play same night.
Yeah because there is 4 spanish teams there has to be 2 teams on each side, i.e "red" and "blue, A-D ad E-H respectively. Likewise with the English and German or any country with 2 or more teams.
English teams:
Arsenal: Will be laughing all the way back to the Emirates. No team who can trouble them and may well end up with 18 points. Az Alkmaar have spent big this summer but with this group they can concentrate on the Premiership until the 2nd round where the going will get tougher
Chelsea: Unfortunate that they get a group like this with their revival up and away but will be expecting to qualify. Porto are a good side with some handy players, despite selling many sta players, have brought in good replacements. Atletico will be very dangerous and will be Chelsea's main threat but a Chelsea-Madrid 1-2 is the expected result.
United: A lot of travling involved but the quality of the teams itself shouldn't pose too much of a threat to United. Wolfsburg were the Pot 4 team to avoid but will be aiming for 2nd place at best. A great draw for Sir Alex's men and will be expected to progress with ease.
Liverpool: An interesting one. The only English team not expected to progress easily Liverpool may not even progress. Lyon have spent big this summer after failing to win the French title and their board will be expecting big things, toppling Liverpool will be one of them. They were very impressive in their defeat of Anderlecht and could be the joint favourites for this group. In saying that Fiorentina are still a great side and this group will surely throw up some fantastic matches.
Look forward to the season ahead and hopefully I may see a first ever Champions League win for Chelsea. Wil e a great year and some stunning draws, especially the Milan teams, but this is the reason for paying for Sky Sports.
i cant see 3 good games in the draw >:(
Quote from: AFS on August 27, 2009, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 06:35:38 PM
English teams:
Arsenal: Will be laughing all the way back to the Emirates. No team who can trouble them and may well end up with 18 points. Az Alkmaar have spent big this summer but with this group they can concentrate on the Premiership until the 2nd round where the going will get tougher
Chelsea: Unfortunate that they get a group like this with their revival up and away but will be expecting to qualify. Porto are a good side with some handy players, despite selling many sta players, have brought in good replacements. Atletico will be very dangerous and will be Chelsea's main threat but a Chelsea-Madrid 1-2 is the expected result.
United: A lot of travling involved but the quality of the teams itself shouldn't pose too much of a threat to United. Wolfsburg were the Pot 4 team to avoid but will be aiming for 2nd place at best. A great draw for Sir Alex's men and will be expected to progress with ease.
Liverpool: An interesting one. The only English team not expected to progress easily Liverpool may not even progress. Lyon have spent big this summer after failing to win the French title and their board will be expecting big things, toppling Liverpool will be one of them. They were very impressive in their defeat of Anderlecht and could be the joint favourites for this group. In saying that Fiorentina are still a great side and this group will surely throw up some fantastic matches.
Look forward to the season ahead and hopefully I may see a first ever Champions League win for Chelsea. Wil e a great year and some stunning draws, especially the Milan teams, but this is the reason for paying for Sky Sports.
A lot of nonsense there
AZ have spent big
They've spent about £4 million on a couple of lads from small Dutch clubs.
Porto have bought good replacements
I'm intrigued, tell us what you know of Beto, Silvestre Valera, Maicon, Valeri and Prediguer.
A great draw for Sir Alex's men
German champions, Turkish champions, most consistently successful Russian club over the last 6 or 7 years. Of course United will qualify, but it not like they're playing some Hungarian or Cypriot first timers.
Fiorentina are still a great side
What have they done in the last half a dozen years to justify that praise? Italian clubs are a pale shadow of their former selves and Fiorentina are particularly weak having scraped into the Champions League only by beating the mighty Genoa in a playoff.
Maicon : Absolute quality brazillian defender.
Prediguer: Argentine national player
Interesting that you seem to forgt all the other established national players they bought and concentrate on the reserves and youth players. BTW not great replacements good.(also adequate or satisfactory I never said Cristiano Ronaldo quality.
United's draw. Russia's "Champions have never reached the second round of the Champions League, Wolfsburg, although a decent team, won't trouble United, and FYI, won the league due to Bayern's inadequacies and please, enlighten me with the quality that Besiktas have in their team
Fiorentina are still a good side with players like Zanetti, Gilardino, Frey, Jorgensen and Montovilo. Genoa, who had an extraordinary season(likewise Wolfsburg, Ipswich, Everton,Rubin Kazan, Unirea urziceni, Sevilla in history) were behina "alright" team like, oh I don't know Inter milan, Juve and AC. They still defeated Sporting Lisbon who aren't bad now.
If you're going to argue with little niggling facts because you're an awfully annoying little prcik here and in real life, check your facts. Don't try to know more than me, you don't.
Quote from: magickingdom on August 27, 2009, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 27, 2009, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
How come the Champions league has teams that haven't been champions for decades?
That doesn't answer my question ???
Because of TV or security I think..They cant be on same side of the draw as Real as both would have to play same night.
Yeah because there is 4 spanish teams there has to be 2 teams on each side, i.e "red" and "blue, A-D ad E-H respectively. Likewise with the English and German or any country with 2 or more teams.
English teams:
Arsenal: Will be laughing all the way back to the Emirates. No team who can trouble them and may well end up with 18 points. Az Alkmaar have spent big this summer but with this group they can concentrate on the Premiership until the 2nd round where the going will get tougher
Chelsea: Unfortunate that they get a group like this with their revival up and away but will be expecting to qualify. Porto are a good side with some handy players, despite selling many sta players, have brought in good replacements. Atletico will be very dangerous and will be Chelsea's main threat but a Chelsea-Madrid 1-2 is the expected result.
United: A lot of travling involved but the quality of the teams itself shouldn't pose too much of a threat to United. Wolfsburg were the Pot 4 team to avoid but will be aiming for 2nd place at best. A great draw for Sir Alex's men and will be expected to progress with ease.
Liverpool: An interesting one. The only English team not expected to progress easily Liverpool may not even progress. Lyon have spent big this summer after failing to win the French title and their board will be expecting big things, toppling Liverpool will be one of them. They were very impressive in their defeat of Anderlecht and could be the joint favourites for this group. In saying that Fiorentina are still a great side and this group will surely throw up some fantastic matches.
Look forward to the season ahead and hopefully I may see a first ever Champions League win for Chelsea. Wil e a great year and some stunning draws, especially the Milan teams, but this is the reason for paying for Sky Sports.
i cant see 3 good games in the draw >:(
Inter Milan-Barcelona
Ac Milan-Real Madrid
Liverpool-Lyon
Bayern-Juventus
Chelsea-Porto
Chelsea -Atletico
Sevilla-Stuttgart
and they play twice as well but, yeah, no real draws ::)
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:42:19 PM
Inter Milan-Barcelona
Ac Milan-Real Madrid
Liverpool-Lyon
Bayern-Juventus
Chelsea-Porto
Chelsea -Atletico
Sevilla-Stuttgart
and they play twice as well but, yeah, no real draws ::)
the top 3 i agree with but chelsea v porto? etc etc
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
If you're going to argue with little niggling facts because you're an awfully annoying little prcik here and in real life, check your facts. Don't try to know more than me, you don't.
get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Quote from: magickingdom on August 27, 2009, 07:46:19 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:42:19 PM
Inter Milan-Barcelona
Ac Milan-Real Madrid
Liverpool-Lyon
Bayern-Juventus
Chelsea-Porto
Chelsea -Atletico
Sevilla-Stuttgart
and they play twice as well but, yeah, no real draws ::)
the top 3 i agree with but chelsea v porto? etc etc
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
If you're going to argue with little niggling facts because you're an awfully annoying little prcik here and in real life, check your facts. Don't try to know more than me, you don't.
get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
First of all, not you.
And secondly, he's "tried" to correct me on three posts and turned out to be all wrong so, yeah. This thread is full posters who just have to prove people wrong, the reason they have to find companionshp on this thread.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on August 27, 2009, 07:46:19 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:42:19 PM
Inter Milan-Barcelona
Ac Milan-Real Madrid
Liverpool-Lyon
Bayern-Juventus
Chelsea-Porto
Chelsea -Atletico
Sevilla-Stuttgart
and they play twice as well but, yeah, no real draws ::)
the top 3 i agree with but chelsea v porto? etc etc
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
If you're going to argue with little niggling facts because you're an awfully annoying little prcik here and in real life, check your facts. Don't try to know more than me, you don't.
get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
First of all, not you.
And secondly, he's "tried" to correct me on three posts and turned out to be all wrong so, yeah. This thread is full posters who just have to prove people wrong, the reason they have to find companionshp on this thread.
like i said above did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? is a discussion board ffs
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:42:19 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on August 27, 2009, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 27, 2009, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 27, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
How come A. Madrid could not go into Arsenals group?
How come the Champions league has teams that haven't been champions for decades?
That doesn't answer my question ???
Because of TV or security I think..They cant be on same side of the draw as Real as both would have to play same night.
Yeah because there is 4 spanish teams there has to be 2 teams on each side, i.e "red" and "blue, A-D ad E-H respectively. Likewise with the English and German or any country with 2 or more teams.
English teams:
Arsenal: Will be laughing all the way back to the Emirates. No team who can trouble them and may well end up with 18 points. Az Alkmaar have spent big this summer but with this group they can concentrate on the Premiership until the 2nd round where the going will get tougher
Chelsea: Unfortunate that they get a group like this with their revival up and away but will be expecting to qualify. Porto are a good side with some handy players, despite selling many sta players, have brought in good replacements. Atletico will be very dangerous and will be Chelsea's main threat but a Chelsea-Madrid 1-2 is the expected result.
United: A lot of travling involved but the quality of the teams itself shouldn't pose too much of a threat to United. Wolfsburg were the Pot 4 team to avoid but will be aiming for 2nd place at best. A great draw for Sir Alex's men and will be expected to progress with ease.
Liverpool: An interesting one. The only English team not expected to progress easily Liverpool may not even progress. Lyon have spent big this summer after failing to win the French title and their board will be expecting big things, toppling Liverpool will be one of them. They were very impressive in their defeat of Anderlecht and could be the joint favourites for this group. In saying that Fiorentina are still a great side and this group will surely throw up some fantastic matches.
Look forward to the season ahead and hopefully I may see a first ever Champions League win for Chelsea. Wil e a great year and some stunning draws, especially the Milan teams, but this is the reason for paying for Sky Sports.
i cant see 3 good games in the draw >:(
Inter Milan-Barcelona
Ac Milan-Real Madrid
Liverpool-Lyon
Bayern-Juventus
Chelsea-Porto
Chelsea -Atletico
Sevilla-Stuttgart
and they play twice as well but, yeah, no real draws ::)
But most of those matches dont mean much as most of those teams will easily qualify from their groups. I hate the group stages of the Champions cup, always very predictable who will go through. A big gulf in class normally from the top two seeds in the group and the bottom two teams. The real football wont start until the knockout stages.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Maicon : Absolute quality brazillian defender.
You do realise its not the same Maicon as the one at Inter.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Prediguer: Argentine national player
One cap, for 20 minutes, in a friendly, against Panama.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Interesting that you seem to forgt all the other established national players they bought and concentrate on the reserves and youth players. BTW not great replacements good.(also adequate or satisfactory I never said Cristiano Ronaldo quality.
What established players? Belluschi with his 2 caps? Pereira with 6? Sa with 1 maybe?
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
United's draw. Russia's "Champions have never reached the second round of the Champions League, Wolfsburg, although a decent team, won't trouble United, and FYI, won the league due to Bayern's inadequacies and please, enlighten me with the quality that Besiktas have in their team
:D Unlike yourself, I never claimed to be an expert on all these teams. But a cursory glance at Wolfsburg's squad is enough to dismiss your idea that they're plodders that Bayern let get lucky. They set all sorts of scoring and winning streak records in the Bundesliga last term, but sure maybe that was just down to the other 19 teams' inadequacies.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Fiorentina are still a good side with players like Zanetti, Gilardino, Frey, Jorgensen and Montovilo.
Who've done sweet FA despite having most of these players for the last 3 or 4 years.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Genoa, who had an extraordinary season(likewise Wolfsburg, Ipswich, Everton,Rubin Kazan, Unirea urziceni, Sevilla in history) were behina "alright" team like, oh I don't know Inter milan, Juve and AC. They still defeated Sporting Lisbon who aren't bad now.
No, in fact Sporting are so good they let themselves fall to the largest aggregate defeat in Champions League history last year. 12-1, deadly team ::)
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
If you're going to argue with little niggling facts because you're an awfully annoying little prcik here and in real life, check your facts. Don't try to know more than me, you don't.
There's an awful smell of bullshittery about some of your posts, and this is not the first time someone has called you up on this crap. Also, classy wee bit of personal abuse there. Well done.
:D :D
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:50:21 PM
First of all, not you.
And secondly, he's "tried" to correct me on three posts and turned out to be all wrong so, yeah. This thread is full posters who just have to prove people wrong, the reason they have to find companionshp on this thread.
Quote of the year!!!!!
Quote from: AFS on August 27, 2009, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Maicon : Absolute quality brazillian defender.
You do realise its not the same Maicon as the one at Inter.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Prediguer: Argentine national player
One cap, for 20 minutes, in a friendly, against Panama.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Interesting that you seem to forgt all the other established national players they bought and concentrate on the reserves and youth players. BTW not great replacements good.(also adequate or satisfactory I never said Cristiano Ronaldo quality.
What established players? Belluschi with his 2 caps? Pereira with 6? Sa with 1 maybe?
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
United's draw. Russia's "Champions have never reached the second round of the Champions League, Wolfsburg, although a decent team, won't trouble United, and FYI, won the league due to Bayern's inadequacies and please, enlighten me with the quality that Besiktas have in their team
:D Unlike yourself, I never claimed to be an expert on all these teams. But a cursory glance at Wolfsburg's squad is enough to dismiss your idea that they're plodders that Bayern let get lucky. They set all sorts of scoring and winning streak records in the Bundesliga last term, but sure maybe that was just down to the other 19 teams' inadequacies.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Fiorentina are still a good side with players like Zanetti, Gilardino, Frey, Jorgensen and Montovilo.
Who've done sweet FA despite having most of these players for the last 3 or 4 years.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Genoa, who had an extraordinary season(likewise Wolfsburg, Ipswich, Everton,Rubin Kazan, Unirea urziceni, Sevilla in history) were behina "alright" team like, oh I don't know Inter milan, Juve and AC. They still defeated Sporting Lisbon who aren't bad now.
No, in fact Sporting are so good they let themselves fall to the largest aggregate defeat in Champions League history last year. 12-1, deadly team ::)
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
If you're going to argue with little niggling facts because you're an awfully annoying little prcik here and in real life, check your facts. Don't try to know more than me, you don't.
There's an awful smell of bullshittery about some of your posts, and this is not the first time someone has called you up on this crap. Also, classy wee bit of personal abuse there. Well done.
Big man on the internet you [insert personal abuse here]. Report me then and be the big man.
Oh and FYI, if you haven't realised Fiorentina were disbanded and had to reform after the match-fixing scandal back to Seria C3. yeah, they sure have been really bad trying to rebuild after that.
AFS - great work there :D
bbc (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8416819.stm)
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW: 1100 GMT
Group winners: ARSENAL, Barcelona, Bordeaux, CHELSEA, Fiorentina, MAN UTD, Real Madrid, Sevilla.
Runners-up: AC Milan, Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow, FC Porto, Lyon, Inter Milan, Olympiakos, Stuttgart.
Stuggart v Barcelona
Inter Milan v CHELSEA
Olympiakos v Bordeaux
Bayern v Fiiorenta
Lyon V Real
FC Porto v ARSENAL
AC Milan v MAN UTD
Quote from: gerry on December 18, 2009, 11:23:26 AM
FC Porto v ARSENAL
AC Milan v MAN UTD
that could have been easier
that match will all be about Beckham back at Old Trafford, the match will be hardly be mentioned
likewise Jose back at the Bridge
Tough game for the PL Champions.
Noy being a pessimist but the way Utd are currently playing means they are up sh1t street.
New signings in January for the midfield are needed, but the challenge is to get someone who hasnt played in the CL yet.
Few other good ties as well
Quote from: full back on December 18, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Tough game for the PL Champions.
Noy being a pessimist but the way Utd are currently playing means they are up sh1t street.
New signings in January for the midfield are needed, but the challenge is to get someone who hasnt played in the CL yet.
Few other good ties as well
AC Milan are playing muck too these days so should be even enough!!
Welcome home to TSO. Class draw. Would love to be at The Bridge to welcome him home, but in Paris that week. >:(
Might have to head to the San Siro instead!
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 18, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
Welcome home to TSO. Class draw. Would love to be at The Bridge to welcome him home, but in Paris that week. >:(
Might have to head to the San Siro instead!
Don't go, Milans a craphole for a match, well pissed off that United have to go and all
Quote from: TheGreatRambo on December 18, 2009, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 18, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
Welcome home to TSO. Class draw. Would love to be at The Bridge to welcome him home, but in Paris that week. >:(
Might have to head to the San Siro instead!
Don't go, Milans a craphole for a match, well pissed off that United have to go and all
Flight's booked! :D
Usual handy draw for United.
Quote from: full back on December 18, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Tough game for the PL Champions.
Noy being a pessimist but the way Utd are currently playing means they are up sh1t street.
New signings in January for the midfield are needed, but the challenge is to get someone who hasnt played in the CL yet.
Few other good ties as well
I am surprised united never tried to sign Donovan, he would be a tremendous asset to them and i know he will do well at Everton.
Quote from: stew on December 18, 2009, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: full back on December 18, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Tough game for the PL Champions.
Noy being a pessimist but the way Utd are currently playing means they are up sh1t street.
New signings in January for the midfield are needed, but the challenge is to get someone who hasnt played in the CL yet.
Few other good ties as well
I am surprised united never tried to sign Donovan, he would be a tremendous asset to them and i know he will do well at Everton.
Do ya reckon? Don't know too much about him.
Quote from: stew on December 18, 2009, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: full back on December 18, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Tough game for the PL Champions.
Noy being a pessimist but the way Utd are currently playing means they are up sh1t street.
New signings in January for the midfield are needed, but the challenge is to get someone who hasnt played in the CL yet.
Few other good ties as well
I am surprised united never tried to sign Donovan, he would be a tremendous asset to them and i know he will do well at Everton.
He's only about for 2 1/2 mths? By time he settles and gets the pace of game, he'll be away home. Was it Germany he played in before?
Quote from: magpie seanie on December 18, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
Usual handy draw for United.
have beat the best teams at sum stage
Quote from: bingobus on December 18, 2009, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: stew on December 18, 2009, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: full back on December 18, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Tough game for the PL Champions.
Noy being a pessimist but the way Utd are currently playing means they are up sh1t street.
New signings in January for the midfield are needed, but the challenge is to get someone who hasnt played in the CL yet.
Few other good ties as well
I am surprised united never tried to sign Donovan, he would be a tremendous asset to them and i know he will do well at Everton.
He's only about for 2 1/2 mths? By time he settles and gets the pace of game, he'll be away home. Was it Germany he played in before?
he is an excellent player, a game changer and he will be well suited to the english game.
Quote from: bingobus on December 18, 2009, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: stew on December 18, 2009, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: full back on December 18, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Tough game for the PL Champions.
Noy being a pessimist but the way Utd are currently playing means they are up sh1t street.
New signings in January for the midfield are needed, but the challenge is to get someone who hasnt played in the CL yet.
Few other good ties as well
I am surprised united never tried to sign Donovan, he would be a tremendous asset to them and i know he will do well at Everton.
He's only about for 2 1/2 mths? By time he settles and gets the pace of game, he'll be away home. Was it Germany he played in before?
Leverkusen i think, and he was rubbish.
Quote from: stew on December 18, 2009, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: bingobus on December 18, 2009, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: stew on December 18, 2009, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: full back on December 18, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Tough game for the PL Champions.
Noy being a pessimist but the way Utd are currently playing means they are up sh1t street.
New signings in January for the midfield are needed, but the challenge is to get someone who hasnt played in the CL yet.
Few other good ties as well
I am surprised united never tried to sign Donovan, he would be a tremendous asset to them and i know he will do well at Everton.
He's only about for 2 1/2 mths? By time he settles and gets the pace of game, he'll be away home. Was it Germany he played in before?
he is an excellent player, a game changer and he will be well suited to the english game.
Have seen him a few times for Galaxy & I certainly wouldnt agree with this.
Decent player but I doubt if he will change many games in his time there
Thats about right FB, he is decent. Nothing more.
Quote from: Minder on December 18, 2009, 04:50:13 PM
Thats about right FB, he is decent. Nothing more.
Yep, wouldn't take alot to stand out in the MLS...
Quote from: magpie seanie on December 18, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
Usual handy draw for United.
yep handy a team with better record & history than liverpool in the Champions league, beaten us quite easy the last two times they played us, & with players like nesta, gattuso, seedorf, pirlo, pato,flamini, Huntelaar, Inzaghi, Ronaldinho and now beckham
should be a walk in the park ::)
Quote from: ross4life on December 18, 2009, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on December 18, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
Usual handy draw for United.
yep handy a team with better record & history than liverpool in the Champions league, beaten us quite easy the last two times they played us, & with players like nesta, gattuso, seedorf, pirlo, pato,flamini, Huntelaar, Inzaghi, Ronaldinho and now beckham
should be a walk in the park ::)
:D :D :D