Super 8s

[tippabu]

I must have missed the Connacht Final
The disrespect.....

Yer awful touché about this;).....he was basing it on highest ranked teams and equal rep of provinces and galway mayo are ahead in that aspect (Clare higher ranked than clare btw and monaghan ahead of tyrone!).

Best of luck today btw....hopefully its going to be a better game to watch than most galways this year

[Mayo4Sam14]

I must have missed the Connacht Final
The disrespect.....

Did you catch the Connacht final this time?

[armaghniac]

I'm not sure of the rules re repeat  fixtures in the round 3 draw, but with expected rusults next week there is some probably  of a Mayo v Monaghan or Tyrone, so removed a big gun. Someone middling might  draw the winners of Louth v Leitrim and likely beat them, but this would provide an opportunity for the provincial losers to beat this team and reach the super 8, so it is very much dependent on the draw.

[Rossfan]

I must have missed the Connacht Final
The disrespect.....

Did you catch the Connacht final this time?

Yes for the third year in a row unlike some Counties

[straightred]

I'm not sure of the rules re repeat  fixtures in the round 3 draw, but with expected rusults next week there is some probably  of a Mayo v Monaghan or Tyrone, so removed a big gun. Someone middling might  draw the winners of Louth v Leitrim and likely beat them, but this would provide an opportunity for the provincial losers to beat this team and reach the super 8, so it is very much dependent on the draw.

r3 and r4 don't allow repeats so tyrone can't get monaghan in r3 and Fermanagh can't get monaghan in r4 (if they are all in these draws)

[seafoid]

If you want the highest ranking teams AND equal provincial representation the best outcome would be :

Group 1
Connacht Champions    Galway (D1)
Munster Champions    Kerry (D1)
Ulster Runner-up      Fermanagh (D3)     Tyrone
Leinster Runner-up      Laois (D4)     Kildare

Group 2
Leinster Champions    Dublin (D1)
Ulster Champions    Donegal (D1)
Connacht Runner-up   Roscommon (D2)     Mayo
Munster Runner-up     Cork (D2)

But in all probability you won't get groups as balanced as above and one group will appear stronger that the other on paper.

That is just D1 minus Monaghan
Winter/spring

For harder ground you have some different counties

[armaghniac]

I'm not sure of the rules re repeat  fixtures in the round 3 draw, but with expected rusults next week there is some probably  of a Mayo v Monaghan or Tyrone, so removed a big gun. Someone middling might  draw the winners of Louth v Leitrim and likely beat them, but this would provide an opportunity for the provincial losers to beat this team and reach the super 8, so it is very much dependent on the draw.

r3 and r4 don't allow repeats so tyrone can't get monaghan in r3 and Fermanagh can't get monaghan in r4 (if they are all in these draws)

Which increases the chances of Tyrone, Monaghan and Fermanagh reaching the Super 8. Mind you Fermanagh can't get Armagh either, which might push them on to Mayo if both Armagh and Monaghan were still in the R4 draw.

[seafoid]

I'm not sure of the rules re repeat  fixtures in the round 3 draw, but with expected rusults next week there is some probably  of a Mayo v Monaghan or Tyrone, so removed a big gun. Someone middling might  draw the winners of Louth v Leitrim and likely beat them, but this would provide an opportunity for the provincial losers to beat this team and reach the super 8, so it is very much dependent on the draw.

r3 and r4 don't allow repeats so tyrone can't get monaghan in r3 and Fermanagh can't get monaghan in r4 (if they are all in these draws)

Which increases the chances of Tyrone, Monaghan and Fermanagh reaching the Super 8. Mind you Fermanagh can't get Armagh either, which might push them on to Mayo if both Armagh and Monaghan were still in the R4 draw.

If you assume that each province has 2 slots in the Super 8 and that the Dubs, Kerry, Cork, Galway, Donegal  and Mayo will make it there is one free Ulster slot and a free Leinster slot and Tyrone, Monaghan, Ros and Fermanagh plus others probably in competition for those spots. 

[omagh_gael]

I'm not sure of the rules re repeat  fixtures in the round 3 draw, but with expected rusults next week there is some probably  of a Mayo v Monaghan or Tyrone, so removed a big gun. Someone middling might  draw the winners of Louth v Leitrim and likely beat them, but this would provide an opportunity for the provincial losers to beat this team and reach the super 8, so it is very much dependent on the draw.

r3 and r4 don't allow repeats so tyrone can't get monaghan in r3 and Fermanagh can't get monaghan in r4 (if they are all in these draws)

Are you 100% regarding r3? Can't understand why repeat fixtures allowed r1 and r2 but not r3? I understand why repeat not allowed in r4 as a reward/incentive to those teams that reached their provincial final as it would be a real kick in the teeth to be put out by a team that you've already beat.

[straightred]

I'm not sure of the rules re repeat  fixtures in the round 3 draw, but with expected rusults next week there is some probably  of a Mayo v Monaghan or Tyrone, so removed a big gun. Someone middling might  draw the winners of Louth v Leitrim and likely beat them, but this would provide an opportunity for the provincial losers to beat this team and reach the super 8, so it is very much dependent on the draw.

r3 and r4 don't allow repeats so tyrone can't get monaghan in r3 and Fermanagh can't get monaghan in r4 (if they are all in these draws)

Are you 100% regarding r3? Can't understand why repeat fixtures allowed r1 and r2 but not r3? I understand why repeat not allowed in r4 as a reward/incentive to those teams that reached their provincial final as it would be a real kick in the teeth to be put out by a team that you've already beat.

I took it from this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

[armaghniac]

If you assume that each province has 2 slots in the Super 8 and that the Dubs, Kerry, Cork, Galway, Donegal  and Mayo will make it there is one free Ulster slot and a free Leinster slot and Tyrone, Monaghan, Ros and Fermanagh plus others probably in competition for those spots.

Mayo are likely to progress, but they would have a chance of meeting either Tyrone/Monaghan and then Cork in the following round and these might well be close games, especially with Cork you never know. If Mayo drew Cork and Fermanagh could not draw Monaghan/Tyrone, then they would get a lesser team and might make the Super 8s, while Mayo might not. The draw next week will tell all.

[joemamas]

If you assume that each province has 2 slots in the Super 8 and that the Dubs, Kerry, Cork, Galway, Donegal  and Mayo will make it there is one free Ulster slot and a free Leinster slot and Tyrone, Monaghan, Ros and Fermanagh plus others probably in competition for those spots.

Mayo are likely to progress, but they would have a chance of meeting either Tyrone/Monaghan and then Cork in the following round and these might well be close games, especially with Cork you never know. If Mayo drew Cork and Fermanagh could not draw Monaghan/Tyrone, then they would get a lesser team and might make the Super 8s, while Mayo might not. The draw next week will tell all.

Agree, this time next week we will have a clearer idea.
Hope Mayo win next week and avoid Monaghan and Tyrone, which may be difficult, especially if they cannot play each other in R3.

[An Fhairche Abu]

Going to be an exciting Round 4 draw for everyone in a few weeks, all the permutations for the remainder of the summer will be known at that point, looking forward to seeing who comes through the qualifiers although Galway could end up in a group of death by the same token.

Galway's home fixture is due to be on played on either the Saturday or Sunday of race week, which is also the August Bank Holiday weekend. Galway city will be absolute carnage (in many different respects) whichever day it is on!

[J70]

Some serious dismissal of Fermanagh here (or maybe premature assessment of Donegal?). Ulster final is still to be played.

[Jinxy]

Kiss of Death from Arlene.