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Think you need something against St John's to avoid it going to head to head.

Big incentive though - take something from the game and safety ensured.

Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

That's bizarre, has that always been the case? Fine margins

Do you think?  If head to head why not aggregate?

I thought it would be (logically) head to head, if they are even then move down to score difference over all, not head to head score difference between the two teams. Sounds off?

Lol - you and me two different logics - for me logically head to head should go right to aggregate but can see arguments for both (and I hope I have not been feeding duff info this am 😀).  And let's face it there will be factors throughout the season that will work for or against teams.

I think what is most important is that clubs know at the start of the season what criteria they are playing to, from number promoted, relegated to tie breaker rules etc.

Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

are St Endas down regardless of their result against St Galls?

Pretty sure it is the case that both Moneyglass and TNN have the head to head on them meaning they can't avoid a bottom finish.

They are a club that have been doing loads of work and have travelled further than most in their development so I don't imagine they will stay down for long.

Like of Gorts are past their peak so a different case.  Plus Gorts could still have a sting in the tail come Championship where I believe their main focus has been this year.

Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

That's bizarre, has that always been the case? Fine margins

Do you think?  If head to head why not aggregate?

Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

Don't know about that
Division 2 cut throat
A lot said that about GNM this season but they weren't close

I still think that because of the way it ended up, or who it ended up being, there won't be the 2 down 1 up as was supposed to be

Will be ridiculous if this is the case, but it happened in derry last year, rules changed at the end.

On what basis?

Any team going down will com back up if they are good enough.  It's that simple.

Yeah just back over the league there and Sarsfields did indeed play 4 games in 11 days (not 10) which is a tight enough ask with hurling fixed in between. Think it was not going to affect outcome in either code for them and relegation from Div 2 football was pretty much locked in by then.

So only opponent to potentially benefit from a burdened team would have been Aldergrove who are single code and were still in the hunt for the title at that stage.  And while Aldergrove  had 4 games fixed in that time they appear to have been awarded a walk over in one of them.  But didn't end up mattering.

But the answer regarding the schedule is that there were fewer games to be played in Div 2.

I think if I were playing I would have preferred a bit of a break now before Championship.  Get the holiday fitted in now and then back and at it in a couple of weeks preparing.

Div 2 league finished already...any idea why so early? Some clubs played 4 games in 10 days.

Clubs waiting 4 weeks before Championship starts.

12 team league with a split so fewer games to be played.

Fixtures were well spread out.

Maybe a wee bit of a build up before split and for some reason clubs appear to have been allowed to then fulfil pre split fixtures after.

Who had to play 4 games in 10 days?

So Antrim are having a positive season and yet we have people pining for certain players from certain clubs.

Why?

Maybe the fact those lads are not in the mix has left a better balanced squad.

And a lot of this squad is in its infancy in terms of county experience so potential to get much better.

Forget yesterday's men.

County game early in the day.  Plenty of time left in Sunday for club fixtures to be played.  Back in the day Sunday evening was a regular slot for games.  Might even be a bit kinder to the players if cools off any by the evening - though no complaining from me if it does not😀

I think it makes a lot of sense for lads on the county panel but seeing little action in the county jersey to be getting minutes at their clubs.

And that is as much from a county angle as anything.  Otherwise could be throwing lads into an All Ireland quarter final game having played less than 20 mins football in a month or two.

I have no idea what the arrangements are but from what I see it looks like the lads starting for the county are not involved in club games.

We are at a stage of the season, with county progressing on, where there needs to be some common sense around scheduling of club games in order to keep some balance across the piece.

Of course it could be argued that some clubs have been handicapped already but we are now at the business end of leagues and all to play for and all getting into sharp focus, particularly around relegation.

Think what above shows is that it is not impossible to have a lead lost in the final throws.  I didn't watch a lot of the club championship this year but from the few games I did see Cargin dropped a ball into the box for a last gasp goal in the Ulster Quarter final.  So any chat about the extra man being no advantage and game lost anyway is incorrect.

Fair play to Crokes for collaring Walsh btw.  If it was not them it would have been someone else.

How did it happen. In an AIF. Crazy. It's a mess for the GAA. What were the sideline officials doing? This is literally their job.

Yeah the match officials are far from blameless here.

Should be back and white.

Glen pushing for a goal, opposition add an extra defender illegally and avoid conceding.

Match should be null and void.

But this is the GAA we are talking about where rules are not always rules.