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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 21, 2017, 10:01:47 PM »
The statement is based on the safety requirements the club has to adhere to, the black and white stuff.

Without mentioning specifics it does refer to the clubs reputation. I would read this as a reference to the banners in light of Rodgers comments released along with it.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 21, 2017, 08:47:11 PM »
I did laugh at that Neanderthal Gregory Campbell putting out a statement on it. It is like King Herod giving you advice on child care.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 21, 2017, 07:57:56 PM »
I don't think the club  had any option to be honest, they create a great atmosphere but on too many occasions they are making the headlines (and getting  the club repeated fines )as opposed to the team itself.

Yeah its like a great player that keeps getting sent off for dissent.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 21, 2017, 11:46:10 AM »
That's my point though - the pressure comes from the propaganda machine rather than the people on the ground.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 21, 2017, 11:09:27 AM »

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UEFA is a completely hypocritical organisation as, on the one hand, it states politics must not be brought into football but on the other hand it brings geopolitical issues into the equation all the time. Prime examples include the farce of Israel playing in Europe. Israel is not a European nation, it's wholly and entirely in Asia. If it has problems playing other Middle Eastern teams, that's it's own problem. To add to this, UEFA allows the Israeli flag and other symbols but bans anything Palestinian. That's a nonsense as Palestine has as much claim to be European as Israel if it pursued it, i.e. none. Now UEFA would claim Palestinian flags might offend one of its members... Yet it has no issue with Catalan flags, for example, being used by Barcelona, which like it or not could offend another of its members, namely Spain. Then, to top it all, it bans the poppy yet allowed commemoration shirts for the Rising. I don't wear the poppy and never would, I do wear a lily, but you can't forbid one and allow the other. UEFA deals in horsesh1t, is a corrupt as f**k and makes up its rules as it goes along. This isn't going to stop Celtic getting into trouble but it's complete b*llocks.
Whining whataboutery ::)
Uefa had nothing to do with that Ireland game, it came under Fifa's jurisdiction.
Fifa did not give permission for the  1916 - 2016 badge on the Irish shirts and they later fined the FAI  Eur5,000 for the action.
Fifa probably would not have noticed this FAI indiscretion, only for the whining whataboutery poppy fascists who defied Fifa but couldn't take their censure without whining about the dastardly FAI and their commemoration of the 'IRA terrorists' of 1916.

Classy...

Poppy fascism is a thing for sure

Oh it is... Those who go around demanding others wear them behave like fascism, no doubt about that... But it's also a notion that is whipped up and made into a far bigger thing than it really is and is often used as a term of convenience by the anti-poppy brigade to shut down debate about the symbol.

I don't know what's to debate to be honest. If you want to wear one wear one. If not. Don't. To me it really is that simple.

And yet in all my time living in Wales and the few years I spent in England I never wore one and never once did I get a negative comment about it...

The thing has gone up a lot of levels in the last 10 yrs.  You just have to see how James McClean has been treated.  There are a lot of folk who respect him for his stance even though they wear one themselves but the biggest problem is it is mainstream pressure - expectation spewed from the press as well as sporting organisations etc - if anything it actually devalues what the thing was supposed to be about - in fact it downright contradicts it - look at the gyp Celtic take for it FFS despite making a significant financial contribution every year towards associated groups.  And it is a very deliberate ramping up as well.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 20, 2017, 04:09:40 PM »
Where to start.

The easy stuff first I suppose. The Broad Black Brimmer is as sectatian as The Boys of the Old Brigade, Flower of Scotland, Willy McBride etc.

The Green Brigade. They bring great colour and noise to the stadium but I wish they would stop flying so close to the sun, especially since their actions reflect on all of us. Yes they might have covered themselves in their own minds with the displays but that will not wash with UEFA and what was the point of them anyway?

Linfield are no marks, their supporters have a large proportion of neanderthals among them. Why do the GB feel it is necessary to head off in their direction?

I have been in the GB section at matches and the majority of them I would call kids. That is maybe me showing my age but I kbow when I was that age the things I thought were a laugh I would not be at now. I think this contributes to the difficulty in getting across to these guys the consequence of their actions.

Why not banners highlighting the bad governance of the SFA/SPFL over the last decade plus. This might have more of an impact than paying the Linfield support the complement of meeting them on their terms.

I wonder with that approach would the Scottish Mainstream Media be as quick to splash it all over their pages. I would like to see any future banners be on real issues like this and lets see if the attention on them is as great then.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 19, 2017, 11:25:38 AM »
I don't know why anyone would believe that Windsor could be anything other than poisonous, it always will be no matter what the IFA say, its in the blood.
The match the other day had noting to do with the IFA.  It was a Linfield match.

Exact same people turn up to watch Are We A Country.
They don't.  Chances are the fuckwits there last Friday were not even Linfield fans.  Also, NI fanbase is not necessarily made up of folk who go and watch the Irish League clubs, let alone Linfield.  Sadly, the fixture ran the risk of attracting a minority of scumbags intent on causing bother.

Yeah look it is always the hangers on that you will see the worst from.  The majority stopped at sectarianism and racism.

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Yeah watched the fly through.  Mighty impressive stadium on the way by the looks of it.  Cannot wait to take in a game there.  Obviously not as big as Croke but as things stand it will be a unique design for Gaelic Games which should hopefully ensure fantastic atmospheres.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 18, 2017, 12:07:02 PM »
Yeah if you watch it in rewind after he tied the scarf to the post there was an attempted pitch invasion, there were missiles being thrown from the crowd and their was naked hatred/sectarianism/racism from the stands.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 18, 2017, 11:15:00 AM »
I was not going to miss out on the opportunity to see Celtic play a mere 20 miles from my home.I honestly thought things had changed but it's as bad as ever.

Yeah what has changed is a massive effort to play down the sectarianism that is alive and well in NI soccer.  It is along the same lines as 'Orange Fest', turn a blind eye and report all that is rosy with a good dose of deflection. I was listening to Radio Ulster this morning and they reported that Griffiths had been charged in their 7am headlines with no mention of Linfield's charge.

And just like that I catch this nonsense:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/scottish/celtic/official-had-reason-to-book-celtics-leigh-griffiths-insists-northern-ireland-ref-chief-malcolm-35940578.html

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 18, 2017, 11:11:03 AM »
I was not going to miss out on the opportunity to see Celtic play a mere 20 miles from my home.I honestly thought things had changed but it's as bad as ever.

Yeah what has changed is a massive effort to play down the sectarianism that is alive and well in NI soccer.  It is along the same lines as 'Orange Fest', turn a blind eye and report all that is rosy with a good dose of deflection. I was listening to Radio Ulster this morning and they reported that Griffiths had been charged in their 7am headlines with no mention of Linfield's charge.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 18, 2017, 09:09:28 AM »
Would you say then that the club, manager, his backroom staff etc then have to take some responsibility for Griffiths actions given he did it at a fair few away grounds last season. If it is unacceptable should it have been nipped in the bud the first time he did it rather than letting it become a ritual?

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 18, 2017, 08:10:56 AM »
The Griffiths thing is ridiculous because it came about 5 mins after the game had ended.  After the constant abuse, after the missiles and after attempted pitch invasions.  To try and say that this would incite trouble is bananas given that the torch was well and truly lit long before then. 

Maybe UEFA need to have a look at themselves for inciting everything that went before by not keeping the teams separate in the draw if they feel a scarf to a post at the end of the game could have lead to serious unrest - talk about wanting it both ways.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 18, 2017, 08:07:16 AM »
Tony I detect a different tone from you from last week regarding this fixture, the venue, opponents etc.

Nothing like being stuck in the middle of the like to remind you what they are really like.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: July 17, 2017, 08:51:56 PM »
Celtic are charged for the team picking up 5 yellow cards, foolish when it's just Linfield and there are more important games ahead.

Would it be a more serious charge for Linfield if their fan was accused of throwing a Buckfast bottle onto the pitch?

Yeah I thought a lot of the cards were needless and could be costly further down the road. Griffiths could be excused and it was a cowardly, potentially damaging tackle from behind on Armstrong that caused him to react but it was Linfield FFS, we had no need to be picking up any yellow cards.

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