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Title: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 07:03:43 AM
Following on from the map controversy on the Late Late Show,this week we have had Sean O'Rourke laughing on air at Liam Cosgrave's suggestion that water was too good for the hunger strikers and Eamon Dunphy thanking God on air for "Londonderry" (referencing the contribution of Martin O'Neill,Mc Clean and Duffy in Cardiff).

This has caused a howl of protests up North,but no adverse reaction at all in the South.Are we too sensitive up here? I must say I did laugh at Dunphy's comment,which I interpreted at the time as being tongue in cheek
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: OakleafCounty on October 11, 2017, 08:49:18 AM
Dunphy was tongue in cheek. Anyone offended by that is definitely too sensitive which a lot of northern nationalists definitely are. This is the first I heard of the other comment.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Owenmoresider on October 11, 2017, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 07:03:43 AM
Following on from the map controversy on the Late Late Show,this week we have had Sean O'Rourke laughing on air at Liam Cosgrave's suggestion that water was too good for the hunger strikers and Eamon Dunphy thanking God on air for "Londonderry" (referencing the contribution of Martin O'Neill,Mc Clean and Duffy in Cardiff).

This has caused a howl of protests up North,but no adverse reaction at all in the South.Are we too sensitive up here? I must say I did laugh at Dunphy's comment,which I interpreted at the time as being tongue in cheek
Which is exactly what it was. No need to engage in the predictable anti-south rhetoric on this.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:19:35 AM
over the years there has been lots of examples like this in RTÉ and some Irish newspapers
It would stir up more disappointment than anger tbh
Dunphy will just say anything that he thinks will provoke a reaction
In fairness to dunphy he has defended james Mc clean when other westbrit journalists where having a go
He said he didn't like Martin O Neil regardless of what job he was doing the other night
Smacks of O Neil not giving him the time of day and little eamon is reacting to  some rejection through the program

my biggest gripe is that him and Brady are terrible analyst
At least brolly offers some insight in the Gaa programmes
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ned on October 11, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
Listened to rte radio coverage of the match on Monday night. Anyone know who the co-commentater was?
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: AZOffaly on October 11, 2017, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: ned on October 11, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
Listened to rte radio coverage of the match on Monday night. Anyone know who the co-commentater was?

Was it Beglin?
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Tubberman on October 11, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:19:35 AM
over the years there has been lots of examples like this in RTÉ and some Irish newspapers
It would stir up more disappointment than anger tbh
Dunphy will just say anything that he thinks will provoke a reaction
In fairness to dunphy he has defended james Mc clean when other westbrit journalists where having a go
He said he didn't like Martin O Neil regardless of what job he was doing the other night
Smacks of O Neil not giving him the time of day and little eamon is reacting to  some rejection through the program

my biggest gripe is that him and Brady are terrible analyst
At least brolly offers some insight in the Gaa programmes

He does in his arse!
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: galwayman on October 11, 2017, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 11, 2017, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: ned on October 11, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
Listened to rte radio coverage of the match on Monday night. Anyone know who the co-commentater was?

Was it Beglin?
Yep it was Beglin.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 11, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:19:35 AM
over the years there has been lots of examples like this in RTÉ and some Irish newspapers
It would stir up more disappointment than anger tbh
Dunphy will just say anything that he thinks will provoke a reaction
In fairness to dunphy he has defended james Mc clean when other westbrit journalists where having a go
He said he didn't like Martin O Neil regardless of what job he was doing the other night
Smacks of O Neil not giving him the time of day and little eamon is reacting to  some rejection through the program

my biggest gripe is that him and Brady are terrible analyst
At least brolly offers some insight in the Gaa programmes

He does in his arse!

Compared To who
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Owenmoresider on October 11, 2017, 09:30:09 AM
Quote from: galwayman on October 11, 2017, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 11, 2017, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: ned on October 11, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
Listened to rte radio coverage of the match on Monday night. Anyone know who the co-commentater was?

Was it Beglin?
Yep it was Beglin.
He said radio so it wasn't Beglin as he was on TV. Wasn't listening to it but going on previous was it Kerr by any chance?
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: longballin on October 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Quote from: OakleafCounty on October 11, 2017, 08:49:18 AM
Dunphy was tongue in cheek. Anyone offended by that is definitely too sensitive which a lot of northern nationalists definitely are. This is the first I heard of the other comment.

Totally - people using it as an opp to have a go at him. Politically Dunphy credentials have been sound
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ned on October 11, 2017, 09:34:52 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on October 11, 2017, 09:30:09 AM
Quote from: galwayman on October 11, 2017, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 11, 2017, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: ned on October 11, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
Listened to rte radio coverage of the match on Monday night. Anyone know who the co-commentater was?

Was it Beglin?
Yep it was Beglin.
He said radio so it wasn't Beglin as he was on TV. Wasn't listening to it but going on previous was it Kerr by any chance?

That would make sense. Seemed knowledgeable. Talked a lot of crap too!
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Tubberman on October 11, 2017, 09:38:37 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 11, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:19:35 AM
over the years there has been lots of examples like this in RTÉ and some Irish newspapers
It would stir up more disappointment than anger tbh
Dunphy will just say anything that he thinks will provoke a reaction
In fairness to dunphy he has defended james Mc clean when other westbrit journalists where having a go
He said he didn't like Martin O Neil regardless of what job he was doing the other night
Smacks of O Neil not giving him the time of day and little eamon is reacting to  some rejection through the program

my biggest gripe is that him and Brady are terrible analyst
At least brolly offers some insight in the Gaa programmes

He does in his arse!

Compared To who

Parkinson, McStay (when he was in that gig), O'Cinnéide, McConville, Horan.
Dessie Dolan ;)
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:46:54 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 11, 2017, 09:38:37 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 11, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 09:19:35 AM
over the years there has been lots of examples like this in RTÉ and some Irish newspapers
It would stir up more disappointment than anger tbh
Dunphy will just say anything that he thinks will provoke a reaction
In fairness to dunphy he has defended james Mc clean when other westbrit journalists where having a go
He said he didn't like Martin O Neil regardless of what job he was doing the other night
Smacks of O Neil not giving him the time of day and little eamon is reacting to  some rejection through the program

my biggest gripe is that him and Brady are terrible analyst
At least brolly offers some insight in the Gaa programmes

He does in his arse!

Compared To who

Parkinson, McStay (when he was in that gig), O'Cinnéide, McConville, Horan.
Dessie Dolan ;)

Parkinson LOL
I'll give you mc Stay in fairness
I was comparing brolly to his soccer counterparts
Only there to provoke a reaction type of character
In this respect brolly has more of a grasp of the things that matter
RTÉ are woefull at picking analysts
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: AZOffaly on October 11, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
Sorry yeah, Kerr was commentating on radio v Moldova, so it probably was him. He doesn't like O'Neill, you can tell by the little remarks he makes even when something goes well.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: seafoid on October 11, 2017, 09:55:56 AM
Sure there are no decent soccer managers in the 26 counties anyway. At least Martin O Neill has decent experience.
The panel during 26 county matches are like 3 mothers talking about a child with very little aptitude for the game. Dunphy is hilarious. Especially rapping about Hoolihan.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Orior on October 11, 2017, 10:13:26 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 07:03:43 AM
Following on from the map controversy on the Late Late Show,this week we have had Sean O'Rourke laughing on air at Liam Cosgrave's suggestion that water was too good for the hunger strikers and Eamon Dunphy thanking God on air for "Londonderry" (referencing the contribution of Martin O'Neill,Mc Clean and Duffy in Cardiff).

This has caused a howl of protests up North,but no adverse reaction at all in the South.Are we too sensitive up here? I must say I did laugh at Dunphy's comment,which I interpreted at the time as being tongue in cheek

Any time I feel like I'm becoming too sensitive I read Ruth Dudley Edwards column in the Belfast Telegraph. This reminds me that everything that is wrong in Ireland is the fault of northerner Gerry Adams. Examples are:
- Stormont deadlock
- Brexit
- Water shortages
- Homelessness
- Ireland's failure to reach the 2010 World Cup Finals
- GAABoard down

Yeap, all Adams' fault.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 10:14:20 AM
Has Dunphy liked any Irish manager after Eoin Hand's tenure?
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Rossfan on October 11, 2017, 10:18:15 AM
Perhaps Tony and Northern Nationalists could make a voluntary donation of say €100 each to RTÉ seeing as they don't pay them a Licence Fee??
It would
A - be an extra proof of their Irishness
B - force RTÉ to treat them properly.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 10:20:20 AM
Sure I buy the RTÉ Guide...once a year for the big Christmas crossword!
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 11, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
Sorry yeah, Kerr was commentating on radio v Moldova, so it probably was him. He doesn't like O'Neill, you can tell by the little remarks he makes even when something goes well.
Kerr only dislikes O'Neill because he is from the North.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 11, 2017, 10:18:15 AM
Perhaps Tony and Northern Nationalists could make a voluntary donation of say €100 each to RTÉ seeing as they don't pay them a Licence Fee??
It would
A - be an extra proof of their Irishness
B - force RTÉ to treat them properly.

LOL
do you ever watch BBC yourself, does that make you more British
Sure send me up the license money for that and I'll make sure the BBC get it
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Orior on October 11, 2017, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 07:03:43 AM
Following on from the map controversy on the Late Late Show,this week we have had Sean O'Rourke laughing on air at Liam Cosgrave's suggestion that water was too good for the hunger strikers and Eamon Dunphy thanking God on air for "Londonderry" (referencing the contribution of Martin O'Neill,Mc Clean and Duffy in Cardiff).

This has caused a howl of protests up North,but no adverse reaction at all in the South.Are we too sensitive up here? I must say I did laugh at Dunphy's comment,which I interpreted at the time as being tongue in cheek

The blocking of certain programmes is particularly distasteful. For example, why would they block Ireland soccer matches, but allow Rugby or Gaelic?
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Bord na Mona man on October 11, 2017, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: ned on October 11, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
Listened to rte radio coverage of the match on Monday night. Anyone know who the co-commentater was?
If it sounded like a man talking while simultaneously trying to alleviate a bad bout of constipation, then it was Brian Kerr!
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: seafoid on October 11, 2017, 10:48:33 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 11, 2017, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 07:03:43 AM
Following on from the map controversy on the Late Late Show,this week we have had Sean O'Rourke laughing on air at Liam Cosgrave's suggestion that water was too good for the hunger strikers and Eamon Dunphy thanking God on air for "Londonderry" (referencing the contribution of Martin O'Neill,Mc Clean and Duffy in Cardiff).

This has caused a howl of protests up North,but no adverse reaction at all in the South.Are we too sensitive up here? I must say I did laugh at Dunphy's comment,which I interpreted at the time as being tongue in cheek

The blocking of certain programmes is particularly distasteful. For example, why would they block Ireland soccer matches, but allow Rugby or Gaelic?
First guess : Quality control
Second guess : Health and Safety
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: TheOptimist on October 11, 2017, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 11, 2017, 10:48:33 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 11, 2017, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 07:03:43 AM
Following on from the map controversy on the Late Late Show,this week we have had Sean O'Rourke laughing on air at Liam Cosgrave's suggestion that water was too good for the hunger strikers and Eamon Dunphy thanking God on air for "Londonderry" (referencing the contribution of Martin O'Neill,Mc Clean and Duffy in Cardiff).

This has caused a howl of protests up North,but no adverse reaction at all in the South.Are we too sensitive up here? I must say I did laugh at Dunphy's comment,which I interpreted at the time as being tongue in cheek

The blocking of certain programmes is particularly distasteful. For example, why would they block Ireland soccer matches, but allow Rugby or Gaelic?
First guess : Quality control
Second guess : Health and Safety

Its actually because its been shown on sky and they want us brits to pay for the privilege.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 11:09:41 AM
Is Kerr not from Belfast,or at least his parents were? Seems to be a George Osbourne type,peeved he was sacked and therefore snipes at all his successors
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 11:18:50 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 11:09:41 AM
Is Kerr not from Belfast,or at least his parents were? Seems to be a George Osbourne type,peeved he was sacked and therefore snipes at all his successors

Not with an accent like that
Sounds more like finglas or darndale
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Owen Brannigan on October 11, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 10:20:20 AM
Sure I buy the RTÉ Guide...once a year for the big Christmas crossword!

What's the prize?
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 11:28:38 AM
€200!

I am pretty sure Brian Kerr was either born in Belfast and spent his early years there,or else his father was a Belfast man,so he would hardly have a bias against the North
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 11, 2017, 11:34:54 AM
I think he has family connections in Ardoyne.

He came out very strongly against northern nationalists playing for the 26 County team.

His co commentary on Today FM is brutal
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: MoChara on October 11, 2017, 11:40:21 AM

"A joke or not, Eamon Dunphy's Londonderry comment was cheap"
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/eamon-dunphy-derry-londonderry-mcclean-139099

Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: weareros on October 11, 2017, 11:46:03 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 10:14:20 AM
Has Dunphy liked any Irish manager after Eoin Hand's tenure?

No, and would say he disliked Charlton, Tappatoni and Mick McCarthy more. His dislike for McCarthy was fairly vicious when he was a player, apparently going back to a time when he was taking Dave O' Leary's place on  team, much to Eamon's chagrin, and Dunphy challenged him to a race to prove Mick had no pace.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 11, 2017, 11:49:06 AM
Dunphys comment was a joke. He has a pretty nationalist outlook and is very supportive of the northern boys playing for Ireland.
Brian Kerr was a great youth coach but didnt do it for the first team he didnt beat a single team ranked higher than 80 (EIGHTY FFS) in a competitive match. He reckons he didnt get a fair go at it but he did! Euro 2004 he took over after 2 defeats fair enough but he was in charge for the whole 2006 campaign which included 2 draws against Israel were we literally just threw away the points and then the big must win game against Switzerland I dont even think we had one single shot. He was rightfully given the boot but should have been replaced by a proper manager not Staunton (what were they thinking of???????????)
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: The Subbie on October 11, 2017, 12:09:58 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 11, 2017, 11:49:06 AM
Dunphys comment was a joke. He has a pretty nationalist outlook and is very supportive of the northern boys playing for Ireland.
Brian Kerr was a great youth coach but didnt do it for the first team he didnt beat a single team ranked higher than 80 (EIGHTY FFS) in a competitive match. He reckons he didnt get a fair go at it but he did! Euro 2004 he took over after 2 defeats fair enough but he was in charge for the whole 2006 campaign which included 2 draws against Israel were we literally just threw away the points and then the big must win game against Switzerland I dont even think we had one single shot. He was rightfully given the boot but should have been replaced by a proper manager not Staunton (what were they thinking of???????????)

Correct.

Brian Kerr was the bargain basement choice after Mick McCarthy was sacked.
All that's wrong with Brian ever since is that the FAI have moved away from the incesteous Dublin soccer circuit when looking for new national and underage managers.
The Dutch fella who is technical director now has ruffled a few feathers amongst the Dublin based football intelligentsia- The hardcore DSL & LSL crew who think that north of balbriggan & south of Kilternan there be dragons.

Kerr is a fellow traveler with that mob and unless you are cut from a the same cloth you are an inferior being when it comes to Irish football as those boys see it.

If Martin O'Neill was from Monaghan or Mayo it wouldn't make a difference to Kerr & co
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2017, 12:32:32 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on October 11, 2017, 12:09:58 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 11, 2017, 11:49:06 AM
Dunphys comment was a joke. He has a pretty nationalist outlook and is very supportive of the northern boys playing for Ireland.
Brian Kerr was a great youth coach but didnt do it for the first team he didnt beat a single team ranked higher than 80 (EIGHTY FFS) in a competitive match. He reckons he didnt get a fair go at it but he did! Euro 2004 he took over after 2 defeats fair enough but he was in charge for the whole 2006 campaign which included 2 draws against Israel were we literally just threw away the points and then the big must win game against Switzerland I dont even think we had one single shot. He was rightfully given the boot but should have been replaced by a proper manager not Staunton (what were they thinking of???????????)

Correct.

Brian Kerr was the bargain basement choice after Mick McCarthy was sacked.
All that's wrong with Brian ever since is that the FAI have moved away from the incesteous Dublin soccer circuit when looking for new national and underage managers.
The Dutch fella who is technical director now has ruffled a few feathers amongst the Dublin based football intelligentsia- The hardcore DSL & LSL crew who think that north of balbriggan & south of Kilternan there be dragons.

Kerr is a fellow traveler with that mob and unless you are cut from a the same cloth you are an inferior being when it comes to Irish football as those boys see it.

If Martin O'Neill was from Monaghan or Mayo it wouldn't make a difference to Kerr & co
Ah no it's definitely because he is from the North. Sure what other reason could it be.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: WeeDonns on October 11, 2017, 12:38:34 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 11, 2017, 10:42:45 AM
The blocking of certain programmes is particularly distasteful. For example, why would they block Ireland soccer matches, but allow Rugby or Gaelic?

On freeview they block shows on RTE 2 standard definition, but if you move on up the channel list to RTE 2 HD it isn't blocked  ;)
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: yellowcard on October 11, 2017, 12:45:42 PM
Anyone taking the Dunphy comments seriously need to have a good look at themselves.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: armaghniac on October 11, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 11, 2017, 10:42:45 AM
The blocking of certain programmes is particularly distasteful. For example, why would they block Ireland soccer matches, but allow Rugby or Gaelic?

If they don't have the rights, what can they do? You might say that they should buy the rights, but if Sky or someone buys the UK rights how can RTÉ reasonably stop them. In rugby there is an all Ireland team, but soccer is partitionist.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 01:31:22 PM
Dunphy is an ejit but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these comments
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 01:31:22 PM
Dunphy is an ejit but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these comments

This is all there is to it for sure. Every one knows a clown like that
Usually gets lamped now and again and you try and avoid him cause you don't need the hassle
RTE coverage of Irish soccer is very poor with not a intelligent anylist in the building
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ashman on October 11, 2017, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 11, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 11, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
Sorry yeah, Kerr was commentating on radio v Moldova, so it probably was him. He doesn't like O'Neill, you can tell by the little remarks he makes even when something goes well.
Kerr only dislikes O'Neill because he is from the North.

Kerr's father is from Belfast .
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ashman on October 11, 2017, 02:39:38 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 11, 2017, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 07:03:43 AM
Following on from the map controversy on the Late Late Show,this week we have had Sean O'Rourke laughing on air at Liam Cosgrave's suggestion that water was too good for the hunger strikers and Eamon Dunphy thanking God on air for "Londonderry" (referencing the contribution of Martin O'Neill,Mc Clean and Duffy in Cardiff).

This has caused a howl of protests up North,but no adverse reaction at all in the South.Are we too sensitive up here? I must say I did laugh at Dunphy's comment,which I interpreted at the time as being tongue in cheek

Sky have the rights for showing ROI games in the UK .  The FAI did that deal .  RTE are blameless here to be fair .

The blocking of certain programmes is particularly distasteful. For example, why would they block Ireland soccer matches, but allow Rugby or Gaelic?
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ashman on October 11, 2017, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 11, 2017, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 01:31:22 PM
Dunphy is an ejit but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these comments

This is all there is to it for sure. Every one knows a clown like that
Usually gets lamped now and again and you try and avoid him cause you don't need the hassle
RTE coverage of Irish soccer is very poor with not a intelligent anylist in the building

RTE didn't show the FAI Cup semi replay last night . An utter disgrace .
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Orior on October 11, 2017, 02:43:22 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 01:31:22 PM
Dunphy is an ejit but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these comments

So is Trump. And look where he is now.

Sometimes it is better to call out the idiot before the unthinkable happens.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Dunphy was vehemently anti republican and nationalist up until he witnessed the famous Night in November 1993 at Windsor Park.He changed his tune right away,after witnessing the bigotry,sectarianism and anti Irish hostility that night,and became almost a Sinn Feiner.

Kerr was pictured not long after losing his job as Irish Manager at a Setanta Cup match,involving St Pats Athletic,in the North,with a bag of chips purchased from a chip van in a small decrepit stadium.Something I doubt you'll see any other ex Irish manager doing
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: longballin on October 11, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Dunphy was vehemently anti republican and nationalist up until he witnessed the famous Night in November 1993 at Windsor Park.He changed his tune right away,after witnessing the bigotry,sectarianism and anti Irish hostility that night,and became almost a Sinn Feiner.

Kerr was pictured not long after losing his job as Irish Manager at a Setanta Cup match,involving St Pats Athletic,in the North,with a bag of chips purchased from a chip van in a small decrepit stadium.Something I doubt you'll see any other ex Irish manager doing

Says Tony who buys a poppy from his neighbour....  Did Dunphy, when he was at Millwall, not wear a black armband in solidarity with the people of Derry after Bloody Sunday in 1972 and call on other Irish players in England to do the same? None of them did though
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: foxcommander on October 11, 2017, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 11, 2017, 12:45:42 PM
Anyone taking the Dunphy comments seriously need to have a good look at themselves.

Agreed. Anyone with a bit of cop knows he was just being devious. If anything he was highlighting the fact that boys in the occupied 6 counties are every bit as irish as those in the 26.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: lurganblue on October 11, 2017, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 11, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Dunphy was vehemently anti republican and nationalist up until he witnessed the famous Night in November 1993 at Windsor Park.He changed his tune right away,after witnessing the bigotry,sectarianism and anti Irish hostility that night,and became almost a Sinn Feiner.

Kerr was pictured not long after losing his job as Irish Manager at a Setanta Cup match,involving St Pats Athletic,in the North,with a bag of chips purchased from a chip van in a small decrepit stadium.Something I doubt you'll see any other ex Irish manager doing

Says Tony who buys a poppy from his neighbour....  Did Dunphy, when he was at Millwall, not wear a black armband in solidarity with the people of Derry after Bloody Sunday in 1972 and call on other Irish players in England to do the same? None of them did though

I was always led to believe this was true
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: An Watcher on October 11, 2017, 04:31:47 PM
Kerr does have connections in the North but apparently he didn't like nordies playing for the republic.  D1ck.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: longballin on October 11, 2017, 04:36:10 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 11, 2017, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 11, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Dunphy was vehemently anti republican and nationalist up until he witnessed the famous Night in November 1993 at Windsor Park.He changed his tune right away,after witnessing the bigotry,sectarianism and anti Irish hostility that night,and became almost a Sinn Feiner.

Kerr was pictured not long after losing his job as Irish Manager at a Setanta Cup match,involving St Pats Athletic,in the North,with a bag of chips purchased from a chip van in a small decrepit stadium.Something I doubt you'll see any other ex Irish manager doing

Says Tony who buys a poppy from his neighbour....  Did Dunphy, when he was at Millwall, not wear a black armband in solidarity with the people of Derry after Bloody Sunday in 1972 and call on other Irish players in England to do the same? None of them did though

I was always led to believe this was true

it is true
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 04:38:49 PM
I don't know about the Millwall story,but his press writings up to November 1993 were akin to those of Ruth Dudley Edwards in terms of Sinn Fein and Northern nationalists.They changed completely that night in November 1993 when he was working as an RTE pundit and observed the bigotry and sectarianism first hand.
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ashman on October 11, 2017, 04:41:41 PM
Dunphy's views are generally what is best for Eamo.  In the main he is a charlatan but shouldn't be taken too seriously . 

Although paradoxically his emotional side can overcome rational thought .

He is a necessary performing clown who is pure establishment . 

Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ashman on October 11, 2017, 04:44:31 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 04:38:49 PM
I don't know about the Millwall story,but his press writings up to November 1993 were akin to those of Ruth Dudley Edwards in terms of Sinn Fein and Northern nationalists.They changed completely that night in November 1993 when he was working as an RTE pundit and observed the bigotry and sectarianism first hand.

The views changed when he left the Sindo .  A bit of sectarian singing at a soccer match had f**k all to do with it .   His hatchet jobs were particularly bad on John Hume when he wrote for that rag .   
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Avondhu star on October 11, 2017, 04:48:05 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 04:38:49 PM
I don't know about the Millwall story,but his press writings up to November 1993 were akin to those of Ruth Dudley Edwards in terms of Sinn Fein and Northern nationalists.They changed completely that night in November 1993 when he was working as an RTE pundit and observed the bigotry and sectarianism first hand.
It is correct about Bloody Sunday. But as regards changing his  views after Windsor Park I'm not so sure. He was a great F.G. supporter but certainly deserves to receive some recognition for his jumping on a bandwagon ability
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 04:50:52 PM
I think that game had a profound effect.It was a hell of a lot more than sectarian singing.Pure hatred for 90 minutes,referencing the then recent Greysteel Pub massacre, and frenzied attempts to prevent th southern fenians getting to the 1994 World Cup Finals. Worst ever,and I remember Dunphy commenting about it on tv after the game.Since that day he never wrote a disparaging comment about SF
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Avondhu star on October 11, 2017, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Dunphy was vehemently anti republican and nationalist up until he witnessed the famous Night in November 1993 at Windsor Park.He changed his tune right away,after witnessing the bigotry,sectarianism and anti Irish hostility that night,and became almost a Sinn Feiner.

Kerr was pictured not long after losing his job as Irish Manager at a Setanta Cup match,involving St Pats Athletic,in the North,with a bag of chips purchased from a chip van in a small decrepit stadium.Something I doubt you'll see any other ex Irish manager doing

"vehemently anti Republican"
In other words did not favour sectarian slaughter of innocents by bombing pubs in Birmingham etc
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ashman on October 11, 2017, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 04:50:52 PM
I think that game had a profound effect.It was a hell of a lot more than sectarian singing.Pure hatred for 90 minutes,referencing the then recent Greysteel Pub massacre, and frenzied attempts to prevent th southern fenians getting to the 1994 World Cup Finals. Worst ever,and I remember Dunphy commenting about it on tv after the game.Since that day he never wrote a disparaging comment about SF

If that game has " a profound effect " on Dunphy then it show how big a clown he is .   

Dunphy also loved FF , SF , Thatcher , PDS etc over his career . The man is a charlatan .
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: ashman on October 11, 2017, 05:01:18 PM
Rud eile :

A lot of Northern Nationalists and Unionists are becoming more and more sensitive and snowflake over the last 5 years .  Far more so than the troubles and I speak as a lad with northern lineage .   
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 11, 2017, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Dunphy was vehemently anti republican and nationalist up until he witnessed the famous Night in November 1993 at Windsor Park.He changed his tune right away,after witnessing the bigotry,sectarianism and anti Irish hostility that night,and became almost a Sinn Feiner.

Kerr was pictured not long after losing his job as Irish Manager at a Setanta Cup match,involving St Pats Athletic,in the North,with a bag of chips purchased from a chip van in a small decrepit stadium.Something I doubt you'll see any other ex Irish manager doing

"vehemently anti Republican"
In other words did not favour sectarian slaughter of innocents by bombing pubs in Birmingham etc

Because that is all republicans are and do/have done. Ejit
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 05:11:48 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 11, 2017, 02:43:22 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 01:31:22 PM
Dunphy is an ejit but I wouldn't pay too much attention to these comments

So is Trump. And look where he is now.

Sometimes it is better to call out the idiot before the unthinkable happens.

While I appreciate the logic of your post, I don't think there is any danger of Dunphy running anything nevermind any country
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: Avondhu star on October 11, 2017, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 11, 2017, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Dunphy was vehemently anti republican and nationalist up until he witnessed the famous Night in November 1993 at Windsor Park.He changed his tune right away,after witnessing the bigotry,sectarianism and anti Irish hostility that night,and became almost a Sinn Feiner.

Kerr was pictured not long after losing his job as Irish Manager at a Setanta Cup match,involving St Pats Athletic,in the North,with a bag of chips purchased from a chip van in a small decrepit stadium.Something I doubt you'll see any other ex Irish manager doing

"vehemently anti Republican"
In other words did not favour sectarian slaughter of innocents by bombing pubs in Birmingham etc

Because that is all republicans are and do/have done. Ejit
So called republicans who don't even know what Republicanism is
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: MoChara on October 12, 2017, 09:44:11 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 11, 2017, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 11, 2017, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on October 11, 2017, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 11, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Dunphy was vehemently anti republican and nationalist up until he witnessed the famous Night in November 1993 at Windsor Park.He changed his tune right away,after witnessing the bigotry,sectarianism and anti Irish hostility that night,and became almost a Sinn Feiner.

Kerr was pictured not long after losing his job as Irish Manager at a Setanta Cup match,involving St Pats Athletic,in the North,with a bag of chips purchased from a chip van in a small decrepit stadium.Something I doubt you'll see any other ex Irish manager doing

"vehemently anti Republican"
In other words did not favour sectarian slaughter of innocents by bombing pubs in Birmingham etc

Because that is all republicans are and do/have done. Ejit
So called republicans who don't even know what Republicanism is

So people that aren't Republican then?
Title: Re: RTE's continuing agitation of Northern Nationalists
Post by: longballin on October 12, 2017, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 11, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
Sorry yeah, Kerr was commentating on radio v Moldova, so it probably was him. He doesn't like O'Neill, you can tell by the little remarks he makes even when something goes well.
Kerr might be decent analyst I dont know as his whining voice is so grating as is Michael Owen