The ulster rugby trial

[Syferus]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions declswrved.

Can I ask a question Syferus,  you have steadfastly believed they are guilty. Please summarise why you thingbso.

If you want to see why you're free to look at my previous posts in this thread. I'm not going through it from square one again.

I see nrico falling into the trap of equating the verdict of not guilty with innocence despite it being said upwards of twenty times that's not the case. Some here seem to think a not guilty verdict is like deleting a save in a video game and everything resets, with every bit of evidence of wrongdoing being considered incorrect or lies. That ain't how it works.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions declswrved.

Can I ask a question Syferus,  you have steadfastly believed they are guilty. Please summarise why you thingbso.

If you want to see why you're free to look at my previous posts in this thread. I'm not going to let you tear me a new one again.

[Taylor]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions deserved.

How many rallies have been held to make martyrs of them?

How many newspaper inches have been dedicated to making martyrs of them?

How many radio shows have provided balanced views from both sides since the decision came out?

[David McKeown]

I happened to be going into Laganside today when a sizeable vocal protest was ongoing. I noted as I was leaving someone who looked like they might be an organiser removing all the posters from the gate before dumping them on the grass nearby.

[Syferus]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions deserved.

How many rallies have been held to make martyrs of them?

How many newspaper inches have been dedicated to making martyrs of them?

How many radio shows have provided balanced views from both sides since the decision came out?

How many knuckle draggers have come to their defence on social media?

The fact the more considered opinions of the media largely aren't crying about the plights of the players tells you more about the facts of this case and the problems with how rape is litigated than it does about some perceived and imagined feminist conspiracy.

[Orchard park]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions declswrved.

Can I ask a question Syferus,  you have steadfastly believed they are guilty. Please summarise why you thingbso.

If you want to see why you're free to look at my previous posts in this thread. I'm not going through it from square one again.

I see nrico falling into the trap of equating the verdict of not guilty with innocence despite it being said upwards of twenty times that's not the case. Some here seem to think a not guilty verdict is like deleting a save in a video game and everything resets, with every bit of evidence of wrongdoing being considered incorrect or lies. That ain't how it works.

Did you call it 100% totally wrong or did the 11 impartial jurors do so.

You back the wrong f**king horse and are making excuses now.

[Syferus]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions declswrved.

Can I ask a question Syferus,  you have steadfastly believed they are guilty. Please summarise why you thingbso.

If you want to see why you're free to look at my previous posts in this thread. I'm not going through it from square one again.

I see nrico falling into the trap of equating the verdict of not guilty with innocence despite it being said upwards of twenty times that's not the case. Some here seem to think a not guilty verdict is like deleting a save in a video game and everything resets, with every bit of evidence of wrongdoing being considered incorrect or lies. That ain't how it works.

Did you call it 100% totally wrong or did the 11 impartial jurors do so.

You back the wrong f**king horse and are making excuses now.

You'd want to read what my first post in this thread after the verdict was, and then delete your post lightning quick.

[AQMP]

It would be very difficult to make martyrs out of these guys.  While the right legal verdict may have been reached I don't detect a huge amount of sympathy for them from any quarter.

[AQMP]

I happened to be going into Laganside today when a sizeable vocal protest was ongoing. I noted as I was leaving someone who looked like they might be an organiser removing all the posters from the gate before dumping them on the grass nearby.

#ihatelitter

[Orchard park]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions declswrved.

Can I ask a question Syferus,  you have steadfastly believed they are guilty. Please summarise why you thingbso.

If you want to see why you're free to look at my previous posts in this thread. I'm not going through it from square one again.

I see nrico falling into the trap of equating the verdict of not guilty with innocence despite it being said upwards of twenty times that's not the case. Some here seem to think a not guilty verdict is like deleting a save in a video game and everything resets, with every bit of evidence of wrongdoing being considered incorrect or lies. That ain't how it works.

Did you call it 100% totally wrong or did the 11 impartial jurors do so.

You back the wrong f**king horse and are making excuses now.

You'd want to read what my first post in this thread after the verdict was, and then delete your post lightning quick.

why would i want to.

you've spouted shite here for 10 weeks on this topic of which you had as little understanding as most online as we weren't attending the trial. You accused anyone who had the temerity to suggest a not guilty verdict as being rape apologists. 4 innocent men were found not guilty by their peers in a court of law, not a Diplock court.....

the best thing you could do is f**k off into the sunset with that other gobshite Fearon

[Taylor]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions deserved.

How many rallies have been held to make martyrs of them?

How many newspaper inches have been dedicated to making martyrs of them?

How many radio shows have provided balanced views from both sides since the decision came out?

How many knuckle draggers have come to their defence on social media?

The fact the more considered opinions of the media largely aren't crying about the plights of the players tells you more about the facts of this case and the problems with how rape is litigated than it does about some perceived and imagined feminist conspiracy.

No, the reason no one is coming out in the media to even give a balanced view is because they will get castigated and torn apart.

Careers will be in tatters and they will be labelled as rape apologists such is the hysteria in some quarters from a jury finding the 4 not guilty

[Therealdonald]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions declswrved.

Can I ask a question Syferus,  you have steadfastly believed they are guilty. Please summarise why you thingbso.

If you want to see why you're free to look at my previous posts in this thread. I'm not going through it from square one again.

I see nrico falling into the trap of equating the verdict of not guilty with innocence despite it being said upwards of twenty times that's not the case. Some here seem to think a not guilty verdict is like deleting a save in a video game and everything resets, with every bit of evidence of wrongdoing being considered incorrect or lies. That ain't how it works.

Syferus, give it up man. In the eyes of the law they have not been proven guilty. You are innocent of the crime untill proven guilty, so by process of elimination they are INNOCENT. You or I may not agree with the jurors but that is is the facet. They might have raped her, OJ might have killed her, they were found found not guilty i.e the jury couldn't prove their guilt beyond reasonable doubt. After the trial they are and were able to walk down the streets as free INNOCENT men. No wringing of words, changes that.

[Minder]

I happened to be going into Laganside today when a sizeable vocal protest was ongoing. I noted as I was leaving someone who looked like they might be an organiser removing all the posters from the gate before dumping them on the grass nearby.

Quickly onto the next social media cause célèbre

[gallsman]

Like the above piece the only things we will read online and in print for the next few days will be unbalanced and pointing out the distress the girl has had to go through (which she undoubtedly had to).

It will take a brave person  (or unwise) to go against the grain and put a piece in from the boys perspective.

Eh? Have you looked at social media? Trying to make martyrs out of these lads because there wasn't enough to convict them in a criminal case is rich in the extreme. They've already got more support than their actions declswrved.

Can I ask a question Syferus,  you have steadfastly believed they are guilty. Please summarise why you thingbso.

If you want to see why you're free to look at my previous posts in this thread. I'm not going through it from square one again.

I see nrico falling into the trap of equating the verdict of not guilty with innocence despite it being said upwards of twenty times that's not the case. Some here seem to think a not guilty verdict is like deleting a save in a video game and everything resets, with every bit of evidence of wrongdoing being considered incorrect or lies. That ain't how it works.

Did you call it 100% totally wrong or did the 11 impartial jurors do so.

You back the wrong f**king horse and are making excuses now.

Bit of a strange analogy 

You think this is about picking the"winner"?

[sid waddell]

I can't think of something that more sums up an attitude of not taking sexual violence seriously than somebody attempting to score points off somebody else on the internet for "backing the wrong horse", like a ten year old Manchester United supporter trying to goad a classmate who supports Liverpool because Manchester United won 2-1.

It's absolutely weird.

And for so many men across the internet, that's been their main interest in this trial - to use it to goad women or anybody who believes the complainant told the truth, or feminists, or "feminazis" as they'd probably call them.