The ulster rugby trial

[Owen Brannigan]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

[Syferus]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

The victim was also black.

[Maiden1]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

There are quite a few other cases for and against

E.g.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case

[straightred]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

I'd say there's 2. Don't forget boxer vs rugby player

[Milltown Row2]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

I'd say there's 2. Don't forget boxer vs rugby player

Tyson had previous! What traits have these lads shown in the past ? Have they been convicted of anything before? Is this normal for them?

[seafoid]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

I'd say there's 2. Don't forget boxer vs rugby player

Tyson had previous! What traits have these lads shown in the past ? Have they been convicted of anything before? Is this normal for them?

Belfast's top shaggers. More flutes than the 12th of Julÿ

[thebuzz]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

A friend mentioned this to me last night but I had never heard of it before then. If this were true surely it would be in their favour?

But then when was she examined? The longer after the night's events then the less likely there would be any trace I'd presume.

[Maiden1]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

A friend mentioned this to me last night but I had never heard of it before then. If this were true surely it would be in their favour?

But then when was she examined? The longer after the night's events then the less likely there would be any trace I'd presume.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/belfast-rape-trial-olding-s-semen-found-on-alleged-victim-s-clothes-1.3400684?mode=amp

[Milltown Row2]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

I'd say there's 2. Don't forget boxer vs rugby player

Tyson had previous! What traits have these lads shown in the past ? Have they been convicted of anything before? Is this normal for them?

Belfast's top shaggers. More flutes than the 12th of Julÿ

That's it! Throw away the key??

[AQMP]

Was her underwear paraded around the court?

The jury was shown her top, jeans and underwear.

[sid waddell]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

I'd say there's 2. Don't forget boxer vs rugby player

Tyson had previous! What traits have these lads shown in the past ? Have they been convicted of anything before? Is this normal for them?

What previous? Previous for rape? Em, I don't think so, mate.

"Previous" or no "previous" of any sort is irrelevant in determining whether somebody is guilty of a crime.

[longballin]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

I'd say there's 2. Don't forget boxer vs rugby player

Tyson had previous! What traits have these lads shown in the past ? Have they been convicted of anything before? Is this normal for them?

What previous? Previous for rape? Em, I don't think so, mate.

"Previous" or no "previous" of any sort is irrelevant in determining whether somebody is guilty of a crime.

It can if judge allows previous to be introduced thereby shows a prediliction to such behaviour/offending.

[Milltown Row2]

I was just reading up a bit there now about the Mike Tyson rape trial in 1992.

I think there are some key similarities between this case and the Tyson one. The celebrity status of the defendant/s most obviously, but the victim also had vaginal abrasions, and a witness who drove the victim in a car shortly after the crime testified that she was in a distressed state. These were key to getting a conviction. I'm not 100% sure of the source on this one but it has also been written that there was no trace of semen found.

But unlike in this case, there were no direct eyewitnesses to the crime other than Tyson, who denied it, and Desiree Washington, the victim.

Yet still it resulted in a conviction.

One major difference though between Tyson and these defendants.

I'd say there's 2. Don't forget boxer vs rugby player

Tyson had previous! What traits have these lads shown in the past ? Have they been convicted of anything before? Is this normal for them?

What previous? Previous for rape? Em, I don't think so, mate.

"Previous" or no "previous" of any sort is irrelevant in determining whether somebody is guilty of a crime.

I'm not your mate

He was done for mugging robbing and pickpocketing before rape case, now I can't say those things determine whether you'll turn into a rapist but I think when you use violence to mug someone it doesn't make you a nice person. But you're thinking different

[sid waddell]

I'm not your mate

I'll decide what I call you, mate.

[nrico2006]

What is Olding charged with?

Do you not know?
Seriously?!