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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: Today at 01:39:26 PM »
There are many parallels between these Trump supporting fascists 'protecting' their 'culture' from 'annihilation'  and the union flag orange mob protestors in Belfast. Peas of same pod, if that's the saying.
A lot of KKK people originally were Ulster Scots. It is a very dysfunctional culture.
Scottish culture is grand. I wonder why there is a difference

Source/links?

You are getting worse than TF   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://www.tartansauthority.com/Global-Scots/us-scots-history/hillbillies-and-rednecks

Hillbillies
The origin of this American nickname for mountain folk in the Ozarks and in Appalachia comes from Ulster. Ulster-Scottish (The often incorrectly labeled "Scots-Irish") settlers in the hill-country of Appalachia brought their traditional music with them to the new world, and many of their songs and ballads dealt with William, Prince of Orange, who defeated the Catholic King James II of the Stuart family at the Battle of the Boyne, Ireland in 1690.

Supporters of King William were known as Orangemen and Billy Boys and their North American counterparts were soon referred to as hill-billies. It is interesting to note that a traditional song of the Glasgow Rangers football club today begins with the line, 'Hurrah! Hurrah! We are the Billy Boys!' and shares its tune with the famous American Civil War song, Marching Through Georgia.

Stories abound of American National Guard units from Southern states being met upon disembarking in Britain during the First and Second World Wars with that tune, much to their displeasure! One of these stories comes from Colonel Ward Schrantz, a noted historian and native of Carthage, Missouri ative, and veteran of the Mexican - and veteran of the mexican Border Campaign, as well as the First and Second World Wars - documented a story where the US Army's 30th Division, made up of National Guard units from Georgia, North and South Carolina and Tennessee arrived in the United Kingdom...'a waiting British band broke into welcoming American music, and the soldiery, even the 118th Field Artillery and the 105 Medical Battalion from Georgia, broke into laughter.The excellence of intent and the ignorance of the origins of the American music being equally obvious. The welcoming tune was Marching Through Georgia.'

Redneck
The origins of this term are Scottish and refer to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, or Covenanters, largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would flee Scotland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) during persecutions by the British Crown. The Covenanters of 1638 and 1641 signed the documents that stated that Scotland desired the Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of England as its official state church.

Many Covenanters signed in their own blood and wore red pieces of cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia; hence the term Red neck, which became slang for a Scottish dissenter. One Scottish immigrant, interviewed by the author, remembered a Presbyterian minister, one Dr. Coulter, in Glasgow in the 1940's wearing a red clerical collar - is this symbolic of the rednecks? Since many Ulster-Scottish settlers in America (especially in the South) were Presbyterian, the term was applied to them, and then, later, their Southern descendants. One of the earliest examples of its use comes from 1830, when an author noted that red-neck was a name bestowed upon the Presbyterians. It makes one wonder if the originators of the ever-present redneck jokes are aware of the term's origins

The KKK were poor white red-neck trash

so all hill billies are KKK?

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: Today at 01:27:13 PM »
Purley tongue in cheek, i was the worst manager for giving out during a game, he was just caught a couple of times out by the camera with some, not fit for tv language.

Hes done a fantasic job to turn around Cork... I said it on the league thread that i liked the way Cork were playing during the league and that some of the players looked in fine form, it was the last 10 minutes of their league games that let them down

 dry surface hurlers with pace will always come good for the Championship and bar the sending off they would have (in my view) got to the final.. Plenty to work on but they wont be taken lightly next year

TBH I thought Waterford had gotten to grips with Nash's puckouts and had the better of most of the Cork forwards barring Horgan and the odd Lehane cameo and were about to kick on as the sending off occurred. Granted they were two points down when Cahalane got the line but I just felt that bit more experience would have seen Waterford home.
The sending off obviously made that a formality as Cork inexplicably went 5 on 5 in their own defence and weren't winning any of the physical battles up the other end,

When you have as many defenders as Waterford have you'll get to grips with most forwards, but they were still behind at that point and Cork were not themselves largely to Waterfords defensive tactics and relied heavly on Horgan, even with the man off Cork rallied a bit but as you say man on man they werent going to win those physical battles..

As for Cork they will have to prove themselves next year and watch on from the sidelines, good wee Cork minor team so not all doom and gloom for the Rebles

Whats Galway's best team selection for the final, based on Waterfords gameplan?

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: Today at 10:51:51 AM »
Purley tongue in cheek, i was the worst manager for giving out during a game, he was just caught a couple of times out by the camera with some, not fit for tv language.

Hes done a fantasic job to turn around Cork... I said it on the league thread that i liked the way Cork were playing during the league and that some of the players looked in fine form, it was the last 10 minutes of their league games that let them down

 dry surface hurlers with pace will always come good for the Championship and bar the sending off they would have (in my view) got to the final.. Plenty to work on but they wont be taken lightly next year

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: Today at 10:45:26 AM »
You've more or less agreed with 2 of his points, and penalties should always be scored... Whether Mane would have scored is debateable or Salah too for that matter...

Bar 25 minutes the Germans had control of that game, the measure of a good team though is what you do in those 25 minutes and thats score goals... Liverpool will do as well as last year or better providing they keep their players fit all season

couple of good players breaking through the team also, good to see clubs can dip into their youth set up and unearth a player or two every other season

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: Today at 10:39:19 AM »
Speaking of managers, Kieran Kingston comes across as an absolute gentleman.  Hi post-match interview on Sunday was very honest and classy.

His during the match conversations (to put it lightly) didnt seem that classy lol!! as did the Rocks

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: Today at 09:18:21 AM »
Bad decision opportunity for hurling to send a message is unacceptable. Gleeson's performance Sunday was a joy to watch but f**k me anybody messing with a face guard should receive a lengthy ban.
Probably take somebody to end up with a broken neck for zero tolerance

Agreed on the zero tolerance, he in my view pulled the face guard on purpose and should have been banned, thats the referee hat on..

but as a neutral heading to the final, I'd much prefer a full team available and going hell for leather for 70 plus minutes and the best team win, on this occasion I'll be cheering on Galway, their hurling at times is brilliant, I'm very impressed with the manager (which hasnt been mentined much) who has taken a potential team for many years to the top tree and maybe just maybe get over the line

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: Today at 07:47:50 AM »
So is MR2 is really keeping an eye on the goings on in the league......hey ho indeed.....a sign of the times perhaps ;)

Can't remember the last time we won the league but I can remember wining games in the Ulster club  :D

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: Today at 07:15:38 AM »
One of the luckiest wins ever.

1) Hoff should have scored their penalty
2) Liverpool opener was the fault of a Hoff defender who ducked
3) Liverpool second goal a fluke
4) Hoff missed a number of sitters near the end

For those of you who didn't see it, don't bother watching the highlights, the above sums it up perfectly ::)

Your assessment would be?

Very, very open game that could've ended 4-4. Point 1-4 above are pointless, it's football...shit happens.

Point 1: There is a goalkeeper on the line for a reason
Point 2 & 3: They were goals, doesn't matter how they were scored
Point 4: Liverpool also missed numerous 'sitters'

Very similar then to what Orior said then....

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: August 15, 2017, 11:14:29 PM »
Seen that on social media, again could be fake... would want to see all the players available for the final, it's better to beat a team with its full complement, well the neutral supporter wants that..

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: August 15, 2017, 11:11:27 PM »
One of the luckiest wins ever.

1) Hoff should have scored their penalty
2) Liverpool opener was the fault of a Hoff defender who ducked
3) Liverpool second goal a fluke
4) Hoff missed a number of sitters near the end

For those of you who didn't see it, don't bother watching the highlights, the above sums it up perfectly ::)

Your assessment would be?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: August 15, 2017, 08:33:08 PM »
Great goal , Liverpool started to play a bit after they scored! More goals in this game for both teams based on the first half

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: August 15, 2017, 08:07:31 PM »
I'm on tenterhooks here Milltown, what's the cash on tonight??

I backed the Germans ... so that's Liverpool winning!

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: August 15, 2017, 07:47:01 PM »
Same team as Saturday

Same result would be alright

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: August 15, 2017, 01:31:13 PM »
There are many parallels between these Trump supporting fascists 'protecting' their 'culture' from 'annihilation'  and the union flag orange mob protestors in Belfast. Peas of same pod, if that's the saying.
A lot of KKK people originally were Ulster Scots. It is a very dysfunctional culture.
Scottish culture is grand. I wonder why there is a difference

Source/links?

You are getting worse than TF   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:23:41 PM »
Police will take no further action. Await the SFA doing the same. Aye right!
FFS I saw Dyche celebrate a Burnley goal in front of Chelsea fans with a raised arm and clenched fist. That looked like a GIRUY to me. Mourinho used to race the length of the touchline in celebration. Plenty of players do the ear cupping or finger to the mouth gesture. It should be seen for what it is,an emotional response in celebration. Poor wee lambs just can't take it being beaten by an Irish, Catholic, ex Celtic player and manager and ex Northern Ireland player captain.

Fixed that

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