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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: August 22, 2017, 11:17:20 PM »
Far from it Stillwater! At the minute there are 4 names going forward to interview. Still far from certain who the next manager will be. Interviews to take place during the next few weeks and all will be revealed then.
U in co board BS....seem to know more than most..?
Have we decided on 21 and minor management...any applicants or we head hunting ?

Still no answer CB? How much?

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: August 22, 2017, 09:35:27 PM »
So Fitzy is the only name in on the dead line the man never took a penny and raised a lot of money last year on his own and our county board appoint a 3 man panel and that slabber Delargy to beg people to take the job and pay them stay classy lads

Chill out fitzy
If Fitzy had any wit he should certainly chill out, how much harder can we kick him ..........and then I wonder in these days of austerity who is going to fund any of those 'big names' mentioned last evening in a meeting which brought little credit to those who would 'lead'.
Think we should be concentrating on developing our youth and addressing problems within.............stood with our minors tonite awaiting the arrival of the Milltown Blues.......made no show.
Gotta concern our county when three of the top sides in our county have only managed one single win amongst them in an All County minor league which has descended to the farcical.....

On austerity how much is JB getting??

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: August 22, 2017, 03:43:23 PM »
Conor Gleeson suspension upheld.

They were chancing their arm appealing it.

He's a bigger loss than people think. Every team needs a sticky hoor and he was theirs.

Always hated that type of player, it never ended well lol

For you.......  8)

Played last night, I'm nearly 46!! and had one of those players !!

I just moved about the pitch and their line was shouting 'now's your chance to hit a referee!!'

did he not rip your helmet off and expose all that long flowing hair 😀😀

I'd say the mixed smell of piss and wintergreen kept his marker at bay......

Wintergreen!! kids don't use it nowadays!! as for my flowing hair, its been a while!!

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: August 22, 2017, 01:25:31 PM »
Conor Gleeson suspension upheld.

They were chancing their arm appealing it.

He's a bigger loss than people think. Every team needs a sticky hoor and he was theirs.

Always hated that type of player, it never ended well lol

For you.......  8)

Played last night, I'm nearly 46!! and had one of those players !!

I just moved about the pitch and their line was shouting 'now's your chance to hit a referee!!'

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: August 22, 2017, 01:20:58 PM »
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Good debate here. I am involved wit a couple of underage teams in my club. The debate we always have is at what point do ya start to windback the 'everyone plays' policy and start really putting out the strongest team ya have.

Championship? anything else should be for all the players in the squad

I would agree with that. Few other neighbouring coaches I would speak to would look at it in terms of age groups. Say U12 everyone plays, U14 start to be more selective. Dangerous road to go down and will lead to big dropout numbers.

But there are loads of tournaments nowadays compared to when I was that age, plenty of opportunities for coaches to play everyone, bring 2 teams if needs be

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General discussion / Re: Van attack in Barcelona
« on: August 22, 2017, 11:51:31 AM »
There was 5 killed and 2 arrested lately, the 5 killed had fake bomb belts on that's 7 lone wolf's just hanging around the same place?

yes you'll get the crack pot, who's probably not even linked to any organisation and that is impossible to stop, bollards barriers and police manpower but in most cases this is not random, well picked populated cities with a group involved, money, fake ID,  and other means to buy/rent vans/cars for these.. well supported radicalised people...

I believe the ones killed were very young late teens early 20's, easy to manipulate

All these people were caught AFTER the event MR, when they had put their head above the parapet so to speak.  Have you EVER heard of any terrorist being arrested for planning an attack with a car?  Intelligence agencies haven't a chance with this.

So there hadn't been arrests before an attack has been carried out? Cells have been arrested plenty times so god knows how many attacks have been stopped, by an 'individual' lone wolf from that group... you do agree that these 'randoms' have financial backing to do this and instructions?

Cells have been arrested for planning bombs/shootings.  This case in particular is a prime example.  These guys only came to the attention of the intelligence agencies when they accidentally blew up the house they were making a bomb in.  Now even whenever they had done something as prominent as that and put a marker on themselves, they were STILL fit to get away with the car thing.  I have to laugh at talk of 'financing' these operations.  How much 'financial backing' does it take to buy/rent/steal a car?  Jesus you could do it for fifty euro.  Hence, there little to no hope of catching someone planning this type of attack before the event.

A lot of these lads travel to ISIS areas for training and radicalization, they don't walk

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: August 22, 2017, 11:49:32 AM »
Conor Gleeson suspension upheld.

They were chancing their arm appealing it.

He's a bigger loss than people think. Every team needs a sticky hoor and he was theirs.

Always hated that type of player, it never ended well lol

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: August 22, 2017, 11:46:17 AM »
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Good debate here. I am involved wit a couple of underage teams in my club. The debate we always have is at what point do ya start to windback the 'everyone plays' policy and start really putting out the strongest team ya have.

Championship? anything else should be for all the players in the squad

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: August 22, 2017, 08:48:54 AM »
i would say there are, they have been winning all season in Div. 2.I know its a division below us but when your winning all the time it breeds confidence in a team and a winning mentality.

they have nothing to lose and are going well for this game. we are on the same page so it should be a good game.

Match has been moved to 6pm now on sunday as well.

Venue?

Loughgiel

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: August 21, 2017, 11:50:54 PM »
Hearing all sorts of rumours regarding the McGuigan split. Anyone know what the craic is?

What you hear??

from another forum:

Reliable informed from a couple of people who know him is that he has been funding the Cyclone organisation for a while. Quite a lot of overheads (especially McGuigan family) and no cash coming in.

He allegedly was not paid for his last fight and had enough.

Hence the  suspicious weigh in....

I've said in the recent past there has been a lot of discord within the group... hopefully there is no nastiness and it is a clean break... I've seen first hand a lot of McGuigan support for Carl, the problem is that the Cyclone promotions is all the McGuigan family, they are all on the payroll, if you are not fighting and earning a purse , people still need to be paid and bills...

Carl was promised more fights but Bary was keen to limit the fights.. I know Carl has at the very least 4/5 fights left and he can hang the gloves up with a great career behind him

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: August 21, 2017, 10:47:56 PM »
Hearing all sorts of rumours regarding the McGuigan split. Anyone know what the craic is?

What you hear??

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General discussion / Re: Running
« on: August 21, 2017, 10:01:54 PM »
Marathon training is tough going. The big runs each week fairly sap the energy levels. 9 odd weeks left to Dublin so I'd need to get my finger out

Been doing 15 miles handy enough lately with no niggles and recovery is very quick...Championship season and can't get regular runs due to refereeing

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General discussion / Re: Running
« on: August 21, 2017, 06:36:11 PM »
My second time doing - great event - weather Gods were with us yesterday too

We got lucky alright. Glad to get finished before the rain started. The debate is on now whether to go to the next level or not

Huge step up all the same! toying with it for about a year now, takes a huge commitment training wise to get to that level... 2 close friends have competed in 6 different Ironman competitions around Europe. They were mainly cyclists and had to improve their running and swimming to be able to get over the line... Years ago you could have finished regardless of the time but now you have a time limit for each part, if you don't complete it they stop you before you take up the next stage

Am signed up for a full distance next year

Seems like a big step up alright. The cycling and swimming wouldn't bother me. The running would be my weakest so I'd need to get plenty of miles under the belt. Struggled with the run yesterday but still got under 2 hours for the half marathon so I was happy enough. The cycle went well so I'd a good cushion to finish under the 5:30 mark.

Where are you signed up for next year heffo?

That's a great time to finish in yesterday.

I'm doing Austria

Fair play lads! Under 2hours for the running at that stage is good going!

For me the cycling would be my weakest as I don't bother training with it, you can be as fit as you like but unless you put the miles in for cycling you're beat!!

I think one of the guys I know did Austria last year! He's older than me my height (small) but feck he's fit as feck! Seems for them they just have a small break during the winter, and back at it.. I'm struggling to stick to my marathon training never mind training for Ironman

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM »
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: August 21, 2017, 11:07:07 AM »
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team

You don't think it's a bit harsh on a young child?

Its harsh on any kid, and I'm not saying its right, but pulling him from the team wont develop him either, as skull says keep him working at it and who knows how he'll develop.. is he a full minor/under 16/under 14/ under 12 player? i.e has he another year at that age group?

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