Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - Milltown Row2

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 1081
1
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 02:27:16 PM »
From Frank Greaney in court:

Before going back to Paddy Jackson's house for an afters party, Stuart Olding tells police he drank:

8 tins of Carlsberg
4 pints of Guinness
2 Gin & Tonics
5 vodka lemonades
3 shots of Tequila and Sambuca


I'm not a drinker but I would have thought that this is a fair amount of alcohol to absorb and still be with your senses and on your feet.  Certainly giving a good impression of the off-season professional Ulster rugby player.

By any standards Owen, that's a fairly significant amount of drink.

Thats fairly typical of rugby players.. they have a tradtion of downing a lot of drinks, drinking games and such... I would have a great friend who is an ex rugby player of a fairly high standard and the stories he tells of the tours and the amount of drinks is crazy, not a good man to get into a round with as you are fairly wasted afterwards

2
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 02:23:42 PM »
Going on Frank Greaney's tweets it looks like the Jackson's and Olding's stories differ. And they're contradicted by other evidence from various sources. If it does come down to who the jury believe is telling the truth......

It does. As it was always likely to.

I thought that was very telling. The only one who seems to be fairly consistent with their stories is the IP. Today’s evidence is not good for Olding and Jackson as they come across as arrogant drunks who have contradictory stories. This will not sit well with the jury.

Unless the 7 lads in the jury like a drink and understand getting pissed can have its moments! And that's that, we dont know how these people are going to go with whats been said

I still believe that there is no real hard evidence to say they raped a girl and stand over it based on the snippets we have heard..

For me this has started out ok and went downhill and rape regret stupidity arrogance and alcohol have all played their part in a crazy night.. something went on but we'll never know, and to be fair they dont seem to know

3
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 02:15:27 PM »
Paddy Jackson's statement sounds less than convincing.

And Olding freely admitted to having downed the worth of 16 or 17 pints of alcohol before getting to the after-party at Jackson’s House..

How he managed to produce that amount of semen after that amount of drinks is commendable


Ya. A real hero.  ::)

Pathetic comment.

Ok, it was in bad taste...

4
General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: Today at 02:05:48 PM »
Windows of opportunity. Christ, would you listen to yourself. A glorified mall cop taking on Rambo springs to mind.

A Deputy Sheriff, these lads are well trained, frequent gun ranges and this boy knew exactly what was going on and did nothing, the left will come to his aide and  the right will castigate him for being a coward, whilst this is going on kids are dead and the focus is off the NRA, the NRA are to blame here, keep the focus on them and not the coward that did nothing, at least he did not kill anyone!

Scapegoat... Takes the attention away from the problem, which was on a scale of 1 to 5 or 6 things, he was at the bottom. Deflection news, whatever suits someone narrative

5
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 01:57:46 PM »
There are a few important things Olding can't remember about his jeans.  Who took them off and what happened to them afterwards!
Fairly standard after drinking 16 pints

Doesn’t do the believability of his statements much favours.

Or any of them surely? They were all pissed, this was 3am in the morning back at a party were more drinks were drank. By all their admissions ythings were a bit hazy, I'm not surprised there is problems with the statements..

Was out on Saturday night, Thought I'd left the Harp bar around 2.30, got taxi home collapsed in bed.. Nope mate told me we left then tried to get in a nightclub, obviously we didnt get in (thank feck) then i went home! No recollection at all, and i thought i didnt have that much!

Were you able to find the clothes you had worn on Saturday the next day? ;D

Just about...

6
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 01:54:44 PM »
There are a few important things Olding can't remember about his jeans.  Who took them off and what happened to them afterwards!
Fairly standard after drinking 16 pints

Doesn’t do the believability of his statements much favours.

Or any of them surely? They were all pissed, this was 3am in the morning back at a party were more drinks were drank. By all their admissions ythings were a bit hazy, I'm not surprised there is problems with the statements..

Was out on Saturday night, Thought I'd left the Harp bar around 2.30, got taxi home collapsed in bed.. Nope mate told me we left then tried to get in a nightclub, obviously we didnt get in (thank feck) then i went home! No recollection at all, and i thought i didnt have that much!

7
General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: Today at 01:48:41 PM »
Scapegoat sorted! Works out great in the end .... for the NRA that is

So the people that knew him- at fault
FBI for not picking up on information sent them- at fault
Security guard at school for not taking him on- at fault

Not at fault is the gun shop who provide guns
The law for allowing such multiple guns to be purchased
The NRA just cause they pay off the senators

What a pile of shit! Unless that guy was trained like a marine and actually seen and was involved in a real fire fight then he’d have shit his togs like all those highly trained service men do on regular patrols..
Very generalized comments about a subject I imagine you've had no experience with or really know little about.
My brother in law trains deputies - they are beat cops for areas like Parkland that don't have an official "town".  Parkland is a residential area serviced by the sheriffs department - they are no less police officers than those in towns. They will have went through extensive fire arms training at the tactical and active shooter level. He would understand or at least was taught to look for windows of opportunity like changing the clip, turning a corner, less advantage position and do the job he was paid to do. If you're afraid of death or injury you should not be in the police fire service or military. He will have to live with it and it will be a hard cross to carry.
I don't think he is the scape-goat though.  It was a perfect storm of screw ups.  Yes the gun shops should never have been able to sell to him in the first place, yes the laws need to change but lets deal with the now? Things within the control of people within the screwed up laws could have been done and they were not.
The training should have kicked in for the deputy. But he was probably never shot at before. I'm sure some of us have been in a place where bullets were flying  - its scary stuff. There was an orange parade once in armagh that passed by the end of english street to turn down the hill and the local provos showed up and shot up the street and a volley of shots came back. I was with the crowd at the shambles and the bullets were most likely overhead but scary nonetheless - we all ran. But we were kids. Not trained officers whose job it is to stand in the breach and protect.

Youve already answered my post... He shit himself, didnt know how many shooters were in there and reacted badly, as you said probably never shot at either.. Watched a show on TV the other day, squaddies in the North, very good, young lads and old trained to be soldiers in a urban environment, they had a makeshift town and Saracens and people acting as riotes throwing bottles bricks and makeshike explosions going off, straight after that they landed in the Bogside, Turf Lodge Lower Falls, straight into riots and shootings, all of them highly trained Marines/Para's and the ordinary soldier... all of them shit themselves

8
General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: Today at 01:42:36 PM »
I didnt quote you in AZ its just that people are always looking at a scapegoat...

Where was this guy in relation to the shooter? How many minutes did it take for the police to react.. what is the protocol when a shooting happens in the school?

There seems to be a lot of, I'd do this, he shoulda done that and he's trained in this blah blah...

Yes he signed up and was trained for a job at the school, the reality probably is it was a job reasonably paid, low danger (well so he thought) close to home or whatever the reason, nothing would prepare you for that

Most of us that have done paintballing have shit themselves when they are the last man standing and your mates are gunning for you!!

He was a deputy sheriff, and he was outside the school as the shots were ringing out. He never even attempted to enter the school.

so the procedure would be to wait on backup when hearing shots fired? I dont know

9
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 01:39:48 PM »
There are a few important things Olding can't remember about his jeans.  Who took them off and what happened to them afterwards!
Fairly standard after drinking 16 pints

10
General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: Today at 01:36:17 PM »
I didnt quote you in AZ its just that people are always looking at a scapegoat...

Where was this guy in relation to the shooter? How many minutes did it take for the police to react.. what is the protocol when a shooting happens in the school?

There seems to be a lot of, I'd do this, he shoulda done that and he's trained in this blah blah...

Yes he signed up and was trained for a job at the school, the reality probably is it was a job reasonably paid, low danger (well so he thought) close to home or whatever the reason, nothing would prepare you for that

Most of us that have done paintballing have shit themselves when they are the last man standing and your mates are gunning for you!!

11
General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: Today at 01:23:10 PM »
Scapegoat sorted! Works out great in the end .... for the NRA that is

So the people that knew him- at fault
FBI for not picking up on information sent them- at fault
Security guard at school for not taking him on- at fault

Not at fault is the gun shop who provide guns
The law for allowing such multiple guns to be purchased
The NRA just cause they pay off the senators

What a pile of shit! Unless that guy was trained like a marine and actually seen and was involved in a real fire fight then he’d have shit his togs like all those highly trained service men do on regular patrols..

12
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 01:13:28 PM »
Paddy Jackson's statement sounds less than convincing.

And Olding freely admitted to having downed the worth of 16 or 17 pints of alcohol before getting to the after-party at Jackson’s House..

How he managed to produce that amount of semen after that amount of drinks is commendable

13
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 12:42:57 PM »
or what happened on the night is probably why they wont get convicted?

14
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 10:21:45 AM »
Myths about rape

https://www.idas.org.uk/our-services/sexual-violence/myths-about-rape/

Job done, no point having court cases then and wasting that amount of tax payers money.. only 5% will be false according to the police
Other than Syferus who is even insinuating that?

Anyone who has judged this case found them guilty before all the evidence is read out!

15
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: Today at 10:07:47 AM »
Myths about rape

https://www.idas.org.uk/our-services/sexual-violence/myths-about-rape/

Job done, no point having court cases then and wasting that amount of tax payers money.. only 5% will be false according to the police

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 1081