Brexit.

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Rossfan

A rawther appropriate surname for that outfit.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

muppet

Quote from: armaghniac on November 03, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
British government has been granted the right to appeal, and it looks like this will go to the Supreme Court.

Isn't it a bit odd for the government to go to the max to avoid consulting parliament?

Can the appeals process still end up in the House of Lords?

Thereby possibly having a situation whereby the House of Lords may have to rule on whether or not they have the right to rule?
MWWSI 2017

cornerback

Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 03, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
British government has been granted the right to appeal, and it looks like this will go to the Supreme Court.

Isn't it a bit odd for the government to go to the max to avoid consulting parliament?

Can the appeals process still end up in the House of Lords?

Thereby possibly having a situation whereby the House of Lords may have to rule on whether or not they have the right to rule?

The UK Supreme Court replaced the House of Lords as the ultimate Court of Appeal in 2009.  The Brit Gov will appeal this decision to the Supreme Court, set for Dec 7th according to some courses.

European Court of Justice? ;D

Orior

Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 03, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
British government has been granted the right to appeal, and it looks like this will go to the Supreme Court.

Isn't it a bit odd for the government to go to the max to avoid consulting parliament?

Can the appeals process still end up in the House of Lords?

Thereby possibly having a situation whereby the House of Lords may have to rule on whether or not they have the right to rule?

The UK Supreme Court replaced the House of Lords as the ultimate Court of Appeal in 2009.  The Brit Gov will appeal this decision to the Supreme Court, set for Dec 7th according to some courses.

RIP. His funfair will be hello on Sundial.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

seafoid

Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 03, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
British government has been granted the right to appeal, and it looks like this will go to the Supreme Court.

Isn't it a bit odd for the government to go to the max to avoid consulting parliament?

Can the appeals process still end up in the House of Lords?

Thereby possibly having a situation whereby the House of Lords may have to rule on whether or not they have the right to rule?

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2016/11/03/2178734/after-the-high-courts-brexit-decision-forget-about-activating-article-50-in-march/
Lingering, unaddressed, in the background to this litigation is a question about whether an Article 50 notification is reversible. The High Court in reality proceeded on the assumption that a notification, once given, could not be withdrawn. But the Supreme Court has a different legal obligation and it might feel legally compelled to address that assumption directly.
Addressing it would require a politically explosive referral to the European Court in Luxembourg – the question whether a notification is reversible is one of European law – with a likely delay of around three months.And a finding by the Supreme Court that an Article 50 notification could be 'pulled' would leave ajar the door to a prospectively damaging continuation of the Referendum campaign until such time, if any, as our exit is formalised.

muppet

Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 01:00:35 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 03, 2016, 12:54:45 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 03, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
British government has been granted the right to appeal, and it looks like this will go to the Supreme Court.

Isn't it a bit odd for the government to go to the max to avoid consulting parliament?

Can the appeals process still end up in the House of Lords?

Thereby possibly having a situation whereby the House of Lords may have to rule on whether or not they have the right to rule?

The UK Supreme Court replaced the House of Lords as the ultimate Court of Appeal in 2009.  The Brit Gov will appeal this decision to the Supreme Court, set for Dec 7th according to some courses.

RIP. His funfair will be hello on Sundial.

LOL - I never knew c***ts auto corrected to courses ;)
Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 03, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 03, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: AQMP on November 03, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
British government has been granted the right to appeal, and it looks like this will go to the Supreme Court.

Isn't it a bit odd for the government to go to the max to avoid consulting parliament?

Can the appeals process still end up in the House of Lords?

Thereby possibly having a situation whereby the House of Lords may have to rule on whether or not they have the right to rule?

The UK Supreme Court replaced the House of Lords as the ultimate Court of Appeal in 2009.  The Brit Gov will appeal this decision to the Supreme Court, set for Dec 7th according to some sources.

Didn't know that.

Looking at Wiki, it seems almost all of the members are form the House of Lords anyway?
MWWSI 2017

No wides

Nesbit on saying the government can count on the UUP in any vote, they really never learn.  The will of the people - the will of 38% of the people.

armaghniac

#1987
Quote from: No wides on November 03, 2016, 01:36:57 PM
Nesbit on saying the government can count on the UUP in any vote, they really never learn.  The will of the people - the will of 38% of the people.

As usual the UU have lost the plot. Will Sylvia Hermon vote for something the people of North Down and the people of NI rejected?

Anyhow on a lighter note, Boris is said to have made the following comment at the Spectator awards last night.
"Brexit means Brexit and we are going to make a titanic success of it."
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

BennyCake

Quote from: No wides on November 03, 2016, 01:36:57 PM
Nesbit on saying the government can count on the UUP in any vote, they really never learn.  The will of the people - the will of 38% of the people.

That's irrelevant. The vote was for UK as a whole. NI said stay. Don't matter, as UK said leave. End of story.

seafoid

Quote from: BennyCake on November 03, 2016, 04:39:54 PM
Quote from: No wides on November 03, 2016, 01:36:57 PM
Nesbit on saying the government can count on the UUP in any vote, they really never learn.  The will of the people - the will of 38% of the people.

That's irrelevant. The vote was for UK as a whole. NI said stay. Don't matter, as UK said leave. End of story.
"Parliament voted to give the people of the United Kingdom the opportunity to vote in a straight in/out referendum. 
"On the June 23 the people of the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union and on that basis, should the appeal be unsuccessful, our MPs will vote to trigger Article 50."

The referendum was badly structured cos Cameron thought he would walk it. It was designed to unite the Tories, not unleash chaos

Hereiam

If the south were serious about a united Ireland then this is the time for action. UK leave the EU give them a couple of years to stew in what has happened meanwhile the south with the backing of other EU states go in to claim back the north. The UN come in to keep the peace for a few years until the unionist realise they are better of in a untied Ireland.

If the Irish government had any balls they would be looking at this.

muppet

If it looks like a very tight vote, should the Shinners make an appearance?  ;D ;D
MWWSI 2017

imtommygunn

I was thinking exactly that muppet lol.

michaelg

Quote from: Hereiam on November 03, 2016, 05:10:28 PM
If the south were serious about a united Ireland then this is the time for action. UK leave the EU give them a couple of years to stew in what has happened meanwhile the south with the backing of other EU states go in to claim back the north. The UN come in to keep the peace for a few years until the unionist realise they are better of in a untied Ireland.

If the Irish government had any balls they would be looking at this.
Are you taking the piss?  I presume you don't live in "The North"/ wee 6 / NI.

seafoid

Over on the Garda thread someone said salaries are back to 2008 levels. In the UK they are down by 10% in real terms. The UK has higher inflation and no growth driver. The price of the union might be 20%  of income in a few years. A large part of Unionist identity is built around economic superiority. Taigs value education more than Brits do.  It is going to get very interesting.