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Angelo

Quote from: Tubberman on February 24, 2021, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 24, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 24, 2021, 11:01:26 AM
You would imagine Martinez would be on similar wages to what Rogers would have been on.  The lure of "easier" won league titles and cups and champions league football?

The euros will be a big factor. You're basically gambling on his stock after that. If Belgium do well with their star studded squad, you'd think he will have the big of clubs chasing his name. If a deal was in place before hand, it would probably be less of a gamble for Celtic, unless Belgium completely bomb out.

It would make no sense for Martinez to commit before the Euros.

Belgium do well he will have a host of top clubs after him.

Belgium are poor and he could still walk into the Celtic job (if and when it becomes available).

No top manager would be actively pursuing the Celtic job

Do you think Martinez would choose a midtable EPL club over Celtic if the contract terms were similar?

Define top clubs who might be after Martinez?

Better prospects and exposure from a top championship side than Celtic ffs

Deluded.

Celtic have the ability to play for CL football every, win titles every year.

If money was not the issue, there's hardly a sinner that would pick a midtable EPL club over Celtic - nevermind a Championship club.

Some of your EPL die hards have a seriously deluded opinion on the size of English football clubs.

Martinez has played in Scotland, he knows how big a club Celtic are. If the board put the right financial package to him then I'm sure he'd take the job.

2-3m salary should do the trick - time for Desmond to put his hand in his pocket.

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sid waddell

Quote from: straightred on February 24, 2021, 11:27:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2021, 10:38:29 AM
No offence but why would a top coach in Martinez, want to go to Celtic? Improve his impressive CV? not guaranteed CL football now that Rangers have got their act together.

Wages, having been with Everton and Belgium he'd been on a good wage I'd assume, would his wages be less at Celtic?

It would be a great addition to Celtic, always liked his approach.

Slippy will be gone soon. Maybe even this summer. If they make the CL group stage he might stay but he's sure to get an offer from England he's sure to take it. They are still built on sand so I wouldn't be too worried but them being overly strong (you want them to be somewhat strong though as otherwise what's the point).

Celtic offers easy access to European football - unless you can get one of the top jobs in England there are no easy routes down there.

You'd have to think they have someone in mind or maybe even someone in the bag already. Why else would they have allowed Lennon to limp on. They had to pull the plug now as there was a real danger that there would be an orchestrated campaign to boycott season ticket sales. In that regard Kennedy won't cut it. He needs to win a few games now and then maybe pick up a job at a smaller.
Rangers offers easy access to European football and they've been performing quite well in it over the last year and a half or so

So why would a bigger managerial name than Gerrard come to Celtic, yet Gerrard leave Rangers when he's about to get a crack at the Champions League

Doesn't make sense

I don't think Celtic have anybody lined up, hence Kennedy, they generally haven't had when they've had to make a change

bigarsedkeeper

Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 24, 2021, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 24, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 24, 2021, 11:01:26 AM
You would imagine Martinez would be on similar wages to what Rogers would have been on.  The lure of "easier" won league titles and cups and champions league football?

The euros will be a big factor. You're basically gambling on his stock after that. If Belgium do well with their star studded squad, you'd think he will have the big of clubs chasing his name. If a deal was in place before hand, it would probably be less of a gamble for Celtic, unless Belgium completely bomb out.

It would make no sense for Martinez to commit before the Euros.

Belgium do well he will have a host of top clubs after him.

Belgium are poor and he could still walk into the Celtic job (if and when it becomes available).

No top manager would be actively pursuing the Celtic job

Do you think Martinez would choose a midtable EPL club over Celtic if the contract terms were similar?

Define top clubs who might be after Martinez?

Better prospects and exposure from a top championship side than Celtic ffs

Deluded.

Celtic have the ability to play for CL football every, win titles every year.

If money was not the issue, there's hardly a sinner that would pick a midtable EPL club over Celtic - nevermind a Championship club.

Some of your EPL die hards have a seriously deluded opinion on the size of English football clubs.

Martinez has played in Scotland, he knows how big a club Celtic are. If the board put the right financial package to him then I'm sure he'd take the job.

2-3m salary should do the trick - time for Desmond to put his hand in his pocket.

Would the bigger issue not be the overhaul of the squad at the minute. Forget about the draw of the English league. If you're a manager with ambition you're going to want a lot of investment in the squad to take that on. Things could go sour very quickly if Stevie G is headed for 2 in a row and got into the group stages of the CL, not saying they will but they could. It's a high pressure job with very little room for error. 2nd is nowhere in Scotland, progress would only really be measured with stopping the rangers retaining the league.

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Orior

When was the last time a player/manager was appointed? Tight fisted Celtic could take that route, and somebody like OWC favourite Jonny Evans could be the man (if he has a coaching certificate). We'd still be shit but it would be interesting to watch the huns vent their rage at him.
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Angelo

Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on February 24, 2021, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 24, 2021, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 24, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 24, 2021, 11:01:26 AM
You would imagine Martinez would be on similar wages to what Rogers would have been on.  The lure of "easier" won league titles and cups and champions league football?

The euros will be a big factor. You're basically gambling on his stock after that. If Belgium do well with their star studded squad, you'd think he will have the big of clubs chasing his name. If a deal was in place before hand, it would probably be less of a gamble for Celtic, unless Belgium completely bomb out.

It would make no sense for Martinez to commit before the Euros.

Belgium do well he will have a host of top clubs after him.

Belgium are poor and he could still walk into the Celtic job (if and when it becomes available).

No top manager would be actively pursuing the Celtic job

Do you think Martinez would choose a midtable EPL club over Celtic if the contract terms were similar?

Define top clubs who might be after Martinez?

Better prospects and exposure from a top championship side than Celtic ffs

Deluded.

Celtic have the ability to play for CL football every, win titles every year.

If money was not the issue, there's hardly a sinner that would pick a midtable EPL club over Celtic - nevermind a Championship club.

Some of your EPL die hards have a seriously deluded opinion on the size of English football clubs.

Martinez has played in Scotland, he knows how big a club Celtic are. If the board put the right financial package to him then I'm sure he'd take the job.

2-3m salary should do the trick - time for Desmond to put his hand in his pocket.

Would the bigger issue not be the overhaul of the squad at the minute. Forget about the draw of the English league. If you're a manager with ambition you're going to want a lot of investment in the squad to take that on. Things could go sour very quickly if Stevie G is headed for 2 in a row and got into the group stages of the CL, not saying they will but they could. It's a high pressure job with very little room for error. 2nd is nowhere in Scotland, progress would only really be measured with stopping the rangers retaining the league.

Absolutely.

The top jobs in management are high pressure. Celtic is no different.

It's a different story managing a West Ham or Everton where there is no pressure, mid table safety is fine.

The only reason a top manager would end up in a non-pressurised job where he won't be battling it out for trophies is money.
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Louther

Who Celtic be linked with (mostly by fans):
Martinez
Benitez
Lampard
John Terry
Sarri
Eddie Howe

Who'll actually be in the running:
John Kennedy
Scott Brown
Gordon Stratchan
Mick McCarthy
Jackie McNamara
John Hughes
Paul Lambert

dublin7

Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on February 24, 2021, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 24, 2021, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 24, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 24, 2021, 11:01:26 AM
You would imagine Martinez would be on similar wages to what Rogers would have been on.  The lure of "easier" won league titles and cups and champions league football?

The euros will be a big factor. You're basically gambling on his stock after that. If Belgium do well with their star studded squad, you'd think he will have the big of clubs chasing his name. If a deal was in place before hand, it would probably be less of a gamble for Celtic, unless Belgium completely bomb out.


It would make no sense for Martinez to commit before the Euros.

Belgium do well he will have a host of top clubs after him.

Belgium are poor and he could still walk into the Celtic job (if and when it becomes available).

No top manager would be actively pursuing the Celtic job

Do you think Martinez would choose a midtable EPL club over Celtic if the contract terms were similar?


Define top clubs who might be after Martinez?

Better prospects and exposure from a top championship side than Celtic ffs

Deluded.

Celtic have the ability to play for CL football every, win titles every year.

If money was not the issue, there's hardly a sinner that would pick a midtable EPL club over Celtic - nevermind a Championship club.

Some of your EPL die hards have a seriously deluded opinion on the size of English football clubs.

Martinez has played in Scotland, he knows how big a club Celtic are. If the board put the right financial package to him then I'm sure he'd take the job.

2-3m salary should do the trick - time for Desmond to put his hand in his pocket.

Would the bigger issue not be the overhaul of the squad at the minute. Forget about the draw of the English league. If you're a manager with ambition you're going to want a lot of investment in the squad to take that on. Things could go sour very quickly if Stevie G is headed for 2 in a row and got into the group stages of the CL, not saying they will but they could. It's a high pressure job with very little room for error. 2nd is nowhere in Scotland, progress would only really be measured with stopping the rangers retaining the league.

Celtic job could be of interest to someone like Eddie Howe looking to rebuild is reputation. The issue for Celtic is if a side in England come looking for him will he jump ship like Rodgers did.

Gerrard's family are still living in Liverpool if a club in England come looking for him in the summer he could easily take up the offer.

johnnycool

Quote from: dublin7 on February 24, 2021, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on February 24, 2021, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 24, 2021, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 24, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 24, 2021, 11:01:26 AM
You would imagine Martinez would be on similar wages to what Rogers would have been on.  The lure of "easier" won league titles and cups and champions league football?

The euros will be a big factor. You're basically gambling on his stock after that. If Belgium do well with their star studded squad, you'd think he will have the big of clubs chasing his name. If a deal was in place before hand, it would probably be less of a gamble for Celtic, unless Belgium completely bomb out.


It would make no sense for Martinez to commit before the Euros.

Belgium do well he will have a host of top clubs after him.

Belgium are poor and he could still walk into the Celtic job (if and when it becomes available).

No top manager would be actively pursuing the Celtic job

Do you think Martinez would choose a midtable EPL club over Celtic if the contract terms were similar?


Define top clubs who might be after Martinez?

Better prospects and exposure from a top championship side than Celtic ffs

Deluded.

Celtic have the ability to play for CL football every, win titles every year.

If money was not the issue, there's hardly a sinner that would pick a midtable EPL club over Celtic - nevermind a Championship club.

Some of your EPL die hards have a seriously deluded opinion on the size of English football clubs.

Martinez has played in Scotland, he knows how big a club Celtic are. If the board put the right financial package to him then I'm sure he'd take the job.

2-3m salary should do the trick - time for Desmond to put his hand in his pocket.

Would the bigger issue not be the overhaul of the squad at the minute. Forget about the draw of the English league. If you're a manager with ambition you're going to want a lot of investment in the squad to take that on. Things could go sour very quickly if Stevie G is headed for 2 in a row and got into the group stages of the CL, not saying they will but they could. It's a high pressure job with very little room for error. 2nd is nowhere in Scotland, progress would only really be measured with stopping the rangers retaining the league.

Celtic job could be of interest to someone like Eddie Howe looking to rebuild is reputation. The issue for Celtic is if a side in England come looking for him will he jump ship like Rodgers did.

Gerrard's family are still living in Liverpool if a club in England come looking for him in the summer he could easily take up the offer.

Eddie is also good at getting the best out of mediocre players. Celtic won't be procuring a James Rodriguez anytime soon.

He's the man if they can convince him.

bigarsedkeeper

Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 02:00:18 PM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on February 24, 2021, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 24, 2021, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 24, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 24, 2021, 11:01:26 AM
You would imagine Martinez would be on similar wages to what Rogers would have been on.  The lure of "easier" won league titles and cups and champions league football?

The euros will be a big factor. You're basically gambling on his stock after that. If Belgium do well with their star studded squad, you'd think he will have the big of clubs chasing his name. If a deal was in place before hand, it would probably be less of a gamble for Celtic, unless Belgium completely bomb out.

It would make no sense for Martinez to commit before the Euros.

Belgium do well he will have a host of top clubs after him.

Belgium are poor and he could still walk into the Celtic job (if and when it becomes available).

No top manager would be actively pursuing the Celtic job

Do you think Martinez would choose a midtable EPL club over Celtic if the contract terms were similar?

Define top clubs who might be after Martinez?

Better prospects and exposure from a top championship side than Celtic ffs

Deluded.

Celtic have the ability to play for CL football every, win titles every year.

If money was not the issue, there's hardly a sinner that would pick a midtable EPL club over Celtic - nevermind a Championship club.

Some of your EPL die hards have a seriously deluded opinion on the size of English football clubs.

Martinez has played in Scotland, he knows how big a club Celtic are. If the board put the right financial package to him then I'm sure he'd take the job.

2-3m salary should do the trick - time for Desmond to put his hand in his pocket.

Would the bigger issue not be the overhaul of the squad at the minute. Forget about the draw of the English league. If you're a manager with ambition you're going to want a lot of investment in the squad to take that on. Things could go sour very quickly if Stevie G is headed for 2 in a row and got into the group stages of the CL, not saying they will but they could. It's a high pressure job with very little room for error. 2nd is nowhere in Scotland, progress would only really be measured with stopping the rangers retaining the league.

Absolutely.

The top jobs in management are high pressure. Celtic is no different.

It's a different story managing a West Ham or Everton where there is no pressure, mid table safety is fine.

The only reason a top manager would end up in a non-pressurised job where he won't be battling it out for trophies is money.

You picked two sides pushing for CL spots this year.

The point I made is if the board aren't showing any ambition they'll end up with one of the names you don't want.

bigarsedkeeper

Quote from: johnnycool on February 24, 2021, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 24, 2021, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on February 24, 2021, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 24, 2021, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 24, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 24, 2021, 11:01:26 AM
You would imagine Martinez would be on similar wages to what Rogers would have been on.  The lure of "easier" won league titles and cups and champions league football?

The euros will be a big factor. You're basically gambling on his stock after that. If Belgium do well with their star studded squad, you'd think he will have the big of clubs chasing his name. If a deal was in place before hand, it would probably be less of a gamble for Celtic, unless Belgium completely bomb out.


It would make no sense for Martinez to commit before the Euros.

Belgium do well he will have a host of top clubs after him.

Belgium are poor and he could still walk into the Celtic job (if and when it becomes available).

No top manager would be actively pursuing the Celtic job

Do you think Martinez would choose a midtable EPL club over Celtic if the contract terms were similar?


Define top clubs who might be after Martinez?

Better prospects and exposure from a top championship side than Celtic ffs

Deluded.

Celtic have the ability to play for CL football every, win titles every year.

If money was not the issue, there's hardly a sinner that would pick a midtable EPL club over Celtic - nevermind a Championship club.

Some of your EPL die hards have a seriously deluded opinion on the size of English football clubs.

Martinez has played in Scotland, he knows how big a club Celtic are. If the board put the right financial package to him then I'm sure he'd take the job.

2-3m salary should do the trick - time for Desmond to put his hand in his pocket.

Would the bigger issue not be the overhaul of the squad at the minute. Forget about the draw of the English league. If you're a manager with ambition you're going to want a lot of investment in the squad to take that on. Things could go sour very quickly if Stevie G is headed for 2 in a row and got into the group stages of the CL, not saying they will but they could. It's a high pressure job with very little room for error. 2nd is nowhere in Scotland, progress would only really be measured with stopping the rangers retaining the league.

Celtic job could be of interest to someone like Eddie Howe looking to rebuild is reputation. The issue for Celtic is if a side in England come looking for him will he jump ship like Rodgers did.

Gerrard's family are still living in Liverpool if a club in England come looking for him in the summer he could easily take up the offer.

Eddie is also good at getting the best out of mediocre players. Celtic won't be procuring a James Rodriguez anytime soon.

He's the man if they can convince him.

I'd agree with that 100%

Angelo

Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on February 24, 2021, 02:18:38 PM


You picked two sides pushing for CL spots this year.

The point I made is if the board aren't showing any ambition they'll end up with one of the names you don't want.

Of course it depends on the boards ambition. We have both the resources and reputation to attract a top manager but it depends if the board are serious about improving Celtic

As for Everton and West Ham.

I highly doubt either will be in the CL next season.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on February 24, 2021, 02:18:38 PM


You picked two sides pushing for CL spots this year.

The point I made is if the board aren't showing any ambition they'll end up with one of the names you don't want.

Of course it depends on the boards ambition. We have both the resources and reputation to attract a top manager but it depends if the board are serious about improving Celtic

As for Everton and West Ham.

I highly doubt either will be in the CL next season.

Neither will Celtic
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2021, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 24, 2021, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on February 24, 2021, 02:18:38 PM


You picked two sides pushing for CL spots this year.

The point I made is if the board aren't showing any ambition they'll end up with one of the names you don't want.

Of course it depends on the boards ambition. We have both the resources and reputation to attract a top manager but it depends if the board are serious about improving Celtic

As for Everton and West Ham.

I highly doubt either will be in the CL next season.

Neither will Celtic

Why do you say that?
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Estimator

I'd say the managers that Everton & West Ham have jettisoned over the last 20yrs would suggest that there plenty of pressure at those clubs. I'd estimate Everton have gone through a similar amount of managers to Celtic and West Ham would have gone through a few more than Celtic.

Celtic will likely end up with Steve Clarke or Jack Ross.
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