Schoolgirl rapist shot in attack
The attack happened in the Rosemount Gardens area of Derry
The man shot in both legs in a paramilitary-style attack in Londonderry was awaiting sentencing for raping a 15-year-old schoolgirl.
Keith Burnside, 37, from Rosemount Gardens was convicted in March of raping a girl in his car at Sandbank Cottages in 2000.
Two masked men entered his home in Rosemount Gardens at about 2315 BST on Monday and fired a number of shots.
He suffered injuries to both legs, and was taken to hospital for treatment.
Community worker Tommy McCourt said such incidents made people fearful of a return to violence. "It takes you back to the bad old days," he said.
"We believed that those days had passed and nobody wants to see this kind of thing happening again."
SDLP MLA Pat Ramsey also condemned the attack. "The people who carried out this shooting have no support from the local community and no place in a civilised society," he said.
The police said that those responsible were of slim build and wore tracksuits, baseball caps, and scarves over their faces.
The first man was 5ft 10ins and the second 6ft 2ins.
They want anyone who was in the area at the time and may have seen the men to contact them. - BBC
What you think of this story? Personally i feel he deserved it and hope he gets a good kicking in jail too!
WTF??!! It's a joke! Don't think I'm defending rapists for one second but we live in a civilised society now FFS and this 'paramilitary justice' thing is antiquated and outdated and we are supposed to have moved away from this shite. We have a criminal justice system and equality for everyone now so there is no need for this type of attack anymore. The man will get his sentence soon enough I imagine and well deserved it will be too. Absolutely no need to knee cap him!
Quote from: screenexile on March 31, 2009, 11:38:58 AM
WTF??!! It's a joke! Don't think I'm defending rapists for one second but we live in a civilised society now FFS and this 'paramilitary justice' thing is antiquated and outdated and we are supposed to have moved away from this shite. We have a criminal justice system and equality for everyone now so there is no need for this type of attack anymore. The man will get his sentence soon enough I imagine and well deserved it will be too. Absolutely no need to knee cap him!
The biggest mistake was not sticking one in his head.
Sure we'll all get guns and go attack criminals for the craic!! ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: screenexile on March 31, 2009, 11:55:24 AM
Sure we'll all get guns and go attack criminals for the craic!! ::) ::) ::)
Sorry but i cant have much sympathy for your man, or the pathetic sentence he will get. He has ruined thats girls life. If someone ruins his good enough for him.
Like I said I have no sympathy for him and I hope he rots in jail but if everyone suddenly thinks it's ok to go and knee cap someone on a whim then obviously the peace process came to early for us and we're not ready to be a civilised society yet and we should just get rid of the PSNI/Criminal Justice System and just let the UVF/IRA police our streets again. Going around dishing out vigilante justice is not the way things should be done!
Quote from: maddog on March 31, 2009, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 31, 2009, 11:55:24 AM
Sure we'll all get guns and go attack criminals for the craic!! ::) ::) ::)
Sorry but i cant have much sympathy for your man, or the pathetic sentence he will get. He has ruined thats girls life. If someone ruins his good enough for him.
I don't agree with vigilateism, but I certainly would have no sympathy for him if he did rape the girl. If it was consensual and thus "statutory rape" then I'm less sure (about the knee capping - he'll deserve whatever sentence he gets)
I don't think it's sympathy for the rapist that's motivating people to observe that it's not exactly a forward step for society to see a return to arbitrary dispensation of thug justice by self-appointed vigilantes.
Quote from: Hardy on March 31, 2009, 12:35:27 PM
I don't think it's sympathy for the rapist that's motivating people to observe that it's not exactly a forward step for society to see a return to arbitrary dispensation of thug justice by self-appointed vigilantes.
No agreed Hardy, an ideal world would be ideal i suppose.
Problem is that the courts NEVER hand out proper sentences for these perverts.
Will he still get 50% remission?
If he's been properly convicted for rape then castration is the only just sentence.
No sympathy of course for the rapist, but would you like to live next door to the boys who shot him?
I wouldn't. This sort of stuff is all great at a distance
What this story does tell me is that the victim of the rapist must have been well connected?
Quote from: youngfella on March 31, 2009, 11:25:36 AM
Schoolgirl rapist shot in attack
Keith Burnside, 37, from Rosemount Gardens was convicted in March of raping a girl in his car at Sandbank Cottages in 2000.
Two masked men entered his home in Rosemount Gardens at about 2315 BST on Monday and fired a number of shots.
Didnt he used to do UTV's version of crimewatch???
Quote from: Orior on March 31, 2009, 01:14:11 PM
What this story does tell me is that the victim of the rapist must have been well connected?
Or maybe just has angry brothers. :-\
They should have shot him in the bollock's....
More likely that he was just seen as perfect target; it was obvious that an attack on him would have widespread support (as demonstrated on here) which it is hoped i imagine, to lead to increased support for those who carried out the attack i.e dissident republican groups.
I would say the fellas meting out their style of "justice" as judge, jury and executioner are law abiding citizens alright. Do we wait to someone is convicted of an offence or will the beatings be handed out merely on hearsay and rumour?
Quote from: Minder on March 31, 2009, 01:39:55 PM
I would say the fellas meting out their style of "justice" as judge, jury and executioner are law abiding citizens alright. Do we wait to someone is convicted of an offence or will the beatings be handed out merely on hearsay and rumour?
He was convicted. Just awaiting sentencing. You know.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 31, 2009, 01:57:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 31, 2009, 01:39:55 PM
I would say the fellas meting out their style of "justice" as judge, jury and executioner are law abiding citizens alright. Do we wait to someone is convicted of an offence or will the beatings be handed out merely on hearsay and rumour?
He was convicted. Just awaiting sentencing. You know.
I know that Tony but i am talking about in the future. Will the hoods be in contact with the courts to ensure a conviction is in place before the get the nailed baseball bat out?
So now who takes it upon themselves to "punish" the two gunmen? Or do we just let it slide this time. I'm all for this kind of vigilanteism, but the trouble is it will end up like amway, only one person gets to the top.
Whilst i acknowledge the rationale for looking at this as a barbaric act and unacceptable i can't agree.
If it was my daughter i would beat him to death slowly, of that i have no doubt.
Steps forward for society are not always steps in refinement imho
Would feel no mercy of it was my child though the same boys probably go into post Offices and terrorise and kidnap some defenseless woman when raising their funds. 'Everybody has to have somebody to look down on'....
How do you know who done it...who says it was the paramilitaries???
It was probably the father and i don't blame him one bit, if it happened to my daughter and i had access to a gun I'd have done worse. I would have shot him in every possible part of his body but making sure he lived to spend the rest of his days in jail and every time he looked in the mirror he'd know i had paid him a visit...
If that makes me as bad as him then so be it...
..aye I suppose depends who done it...
It doesnt make you as bad but it makes you as likely for some jail time.
I don't know how anyone is so weak to let a schoolgirl rape them anyway.
Yes the title read strange to me at first.
Whats the appeals process for cases of mistaken identity like in this sort of justice?
I think this is a publicity stunt on the part of these splinter groups.
There would be wide spread support for an act of this nature and anything positive they can do in this political climate is good for them. the shootings of the soldiers and police did them no favours so they had to claw back some support - unfortunately for the guy with no knees, he was the perfect target.......
Who did she rape anyway
Why the f**k was a convicted rapist bailed awaiting sentencing?? Having read another article, it wasn't simply a "statutory rape". Surely too serious a crime and risk of absconding for bail to be granted by any right minded judge.