Was just browsing the club results on GAA.ie and noticed Glen Rovers of Cork have been relegated from senior hurling in Cork, not sure if it's a shock or not or was eventually going to happen but they were one of the clubs I always associated with Cork hurling. I see former Down kingpins Bryansford have also been relegated from senior football after losing a play off. St John's in Belfast while not relegated shipped a heavy defeat in their hurling QF and look to be on the way down in both codes - another club I always associated with Antrim football (and lesser extent hurling). Clubs always go through a lean period but these are names I always associated with the top level.
Bryansford will play in div 2 in the Down league next year but they will still play senior championship next season if they beat Saval in final relegation play off. Only one team gets relegated into intermediate.
Glen Rovers 97 years Senior and 1 of the traditional big 3 in Cork.
A result of inner City depopulation?
Kevin Lynch's Hurling Club Dungiven going by the tanking they got in the County final yesterday.
The gap between them and Slaughtneil getting wider.
Ballinderry Shamrocks - Ulster champions ten years ago and heading into a relegation playoff in October
Last year's Carlow champions Palatine are in the relegation final of this year's championship.
Previous recent fall from grace was 13 times Kerry Senior Champions Austin Stacks who were relegated last year to Intermediate for first time. They won both Kerry Senior County and Senior Club Championships in 2021 and were narrowly beaten by St. Finbarr's of Cork in the Munster Final. They will play Intermediate again next year after their IFC Semi-Final defeat last weekend.
Mickey Harte. From managing to Tyrone to crossing the Rubicon Ballinderry river.
Castleblayney Faughs, record Monaghan title holders, had the highest number of county titles in the country till we surpassed them, haven't won a senior in 20 years and relegated to Intermediate last year for first time in their history.
Quote from: ardtole on September 18, 2023, 04:31:24 PMBryansford will play in div 2 in the Down league next year but they will still play senior championship next season if they beat Saval in final relegation play off. Only one team gets relegated into intermediate.
I stand corrected, still a bit of a shock all the same to see them in Division 2.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2023, 08:39:31 AMCastleblayney Faughs, record Monaghan title holders, had the highest number of county titles in the country till we surpassed them, haven't won a senior in 20 years and relegated to Intermediate last year for first time in their history.
Didn't know that, mayor shock. The coaching in the club must be a mess.
Quote from: general_lee on September 19, 2023, 09:58:18 AMQuote from: ardtole on September 18, 2023, 04:31:24 PMBryansford will play in div 2 in the Down league next year but they will still play senior championship next season if they beat Saval in final relegation play off. Only one team gets relegated into intermediate.
I stand corrected, still a bit of a shock all the same to see them in Division 2.
I'm not a Down man, but I always found the referring to Bryansford as a stalwart of Down football strange. Have they not only won the championship once in the last 40 years? You'd need to be over 60 to have a good memory of their glory days.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on September 19, 2023, 12:26:16 PMQuote from: general_lee on September 19, 2023, 09:58:18 AMQuote from: ardtole on September 18, 2023, 04:31:24 PMBryansford will play in div 2 in the Down league next year but they will still play senior championship next season if they beat Saval in final relegation play off. Only one team gets relegated into intermediate.
I stand corrected, still a bit of a shock all the same to see them in Division 2.
I'm not a Down man, but I always found the referring to Bryansford as a stalwart of Down football strange. Have they not only won the championship once in the last 40 years? You'd need to be over 60 to have a good memory of their glory days.
I always thought of them as one of the traditional powerhouses of Down football. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm sure only a couple of clubs have won Down since Bryansford last did anyway.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 18, 2023, 06:30:49 PMGlen Rovers 97 years Senior and 1 of the traditional big 3 in Cork.
A result of inner City depopulation?
More to do with the design of the Cork hurling championship, 3 groups of 4 with relegation, so it's cut throat. I don't think it's part of any great malaise, they still have Horgan and the two Downeys & won Cork minor last year (I think) or maybe two years ago.
Haven't they gone down to Intermediate relegated from Senior A (second tier)?
Makes them 25th in the rankings now.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2023, 01:24:00 PMHaven't they gone down to Intermediate relegated from Senior A (second tier)?
Makes them 25th in the rankings now.
No they go into Senior
Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2023, 01:24:00 PMHaven't they gone down to Intermediate relegated from Senior A (second tier)?
Makes them 25th in the rankings now.
No they go to Senior A now as far as I know, Cork have 5 grades with 12 in each for championship
It's Premier Senior, Senior A, Premier Intermediate, Intermediate A & Premier Junior
So they're only 13th so, not as big a fall as I thought.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2023, 02:01:38 PMSo they're only 13th so, not as big a fall as I thought.
Yeah and I read something in the examiner earlier that depopulation and lack of land to build private housing in that area has had an adverse effect on northside clubs
Ballybay won Monaghan SFC last year. Currently they're in relegation playoff.
Current Roscommon SFC holders Strokestown have been relegated to Intermediate for next year.
Quote from: guyincognito on October 04, 2023, 04:19:08 PMCurrent Roscommon SFC holders Strokestown have been relegated to Intermediate for next year.
Team that started the county final win against Boyle last year
N Curley
T Gibbons, S Mullooly, D Neary
C Regan, C Neary, C Brogan
D Butler, Cathal Compton
K Murphy D McGann P Brogan;
S McGinley, Colin Compton, C Lavin
Team that lost the relegation final to Western Gaels
N Curley
T Gibbons, D Owens, D Neary
C Regan, K Murphy P Brogan
M Fallon F Cusack
K Finn T Lavin C Lavin
S McGinley, Colin Compton, M Kavanagh
A lot of changes in a year in personal and positional switches. Losing players that played for the county seniors or U20s proved to be their fall from grace.
Ballinderry and Coleraine in Derry.
5 senior titles between them since 2010.
Quote from: clarshack on October 15, 2023, 11:52:09 AMBallinderry and Coleraine in Derry.
5 senior titles between them since 2010.
Not a matter of if but when for Coleraine. Ballinderry will probably be straight back up.
Ballerin in North county Derry were All Ireland senior finalists in 1977 and play in the Derry Junior championship this year.
Quote from: NormPeterson on October 15, 2023, 12:10:00 PMBallerin in North county Derry were All Ireland senior finalists in 1977 and play in the Derry Junior championship this year.
They've been stuck in Junior a few years now and not much hope of that changing
Ballerin had a great team back then, in an area not that big.
Fair few ringers tho no?
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 15, 2023, 07:32:27 PMFair few ringers tho no?
Yip, a real north Derry select with an Antrim man thrown in for good measure.
Only five starters from the parish of Errigal.
Lisnaskea in Fermanagh, 20 senior titles, in the senior final in 2012. Won the Junior yesterday.
Killererin and An Cheathru Rua relegated to junior football in Galway. An Cheathru Rua only relegated from senior last year but lost a lot of lads this year and made the drop to junior after a disappointing intermediate championship. Sad state of affairs for both clubs, long senior football history there. Killererins last senior title was in 2010, a lifetime ago now!
Sad state of affairs indeed to see Killererin relegated to Junior
Their pick is really small though. Clubs of that size are always going to have periods of time when they don't have enough quality to counter the lack of numbers.
Newry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AMQuote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.
There used to be a Newry Bosco club I believe, are they still on the go?
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AMQuote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.
Mad Ted, they've two big GAA schools as well, Abbey and St Colman's.
Quote from: johnnycool on October 24, 2023, 10:19:44 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AMQuote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.
There used to be a Newry Bosco club I believe, are they still on the go?
Yep Bosco still on the go - Won Division 4 this year so back into Div 3. Play intermediate in championship
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
The thing is with Mitchels is why would you go and play for them when you have Newry Shamrocks less than 500m up the road. The location isn't great either as its down the end of an industrial estate so it doesn't have any local residents that would be drawn into it because its their nearest club
Quote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:26:42 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AMQuote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.
Mad Ted, they've two big GAA schools as well, Abbey and St Colman's.
You wouldn't have many from Newry on either of those teams though. Abbey would of had more Newry lads over the years.
Quote from: johnnycool on October 24, 2023, 10:19:44 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 10:14:29 AMQuote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
Soccer, beer, cocaine. GAA wouldn't be big in the city anyway. Newry Shamrocks have good enough numbers I think but wouldn't be anywhere near the top teams in Down.
There used to be a Newry Bosco club I believe, are they still on the go?
Forgot about them actually. Wouldn't be top level either but still going
Quote from: Nanderson on October 24, 2023, 10:45:13 AMQuote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
The thing is with Mitchels is why would you go and play for them when you have Newry Shamrocks less than 500m up the road. The location isn't great either as its down the end of an industrial estate so it doesn't have any local residents that would be drawn into it because its their nearest club
They lost that pitch a few years ago, council sold it to turn it into a new road.. Based out in Derryleckagh playing fields since then, had boys playing into their 40s trying to keep it going but unfortunately no youth teams in place so couldn't replace them
Quote from: Mourne Red on October 24, 2023, 11:21:11 AMQuote from: Nanderson on October 24, 2023, 10:45:13 AMQuote from: trailer on October 24, 2023, 10:12:16 AMQuote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
How? Are there a lot of clubs in Newry? How does a club in such a big town fold?
The thing is with Mitchels is why would you go and play for them when you have Newry Shamrocks less than 500m up the road. The location isn't great either as its down the end of an industrial estate so it doesn't have any local residents that would be drawn into it because its their nearest club
They lost that pitch a few years ago, council sold it to turn it into a new road.. Based out in Derryleckagh playing fields since then, had boys playing into their 40s trying to keep it going but unfortunately no youth teams in place so couldn't replace them
They were playing this year I'm near sure. Seen them advertising looking players on facebook
Do Mitchels have a social club or anything? Always wondered how they managed to get by down where they were. Have they officially folded?
Newry is a big sprawling town/city with a handful of clubs on the outskirts who are essentially Newry clubs in all but name.
Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2023, 08:39:31 AMCastleblayney Faughs, record Monaghan title holders, had the highest number of county titles in the country till we surpassed them, haven't won a senior in 20 years and relegated to Intermediate last year for first time in their history.
Blayney were in the brink of relegation for about 4/5 years before last years relegation. They were the beneficiaries of a fortuitous fixture list a couple of times in avoiding relegation e.g. meeting championship winners Clontibret a week after Clontibret had won the championship and they fielded a B team and getting the points from some walk overs too. Blayney really ought to have been relegated a few years ago but were very, very lucky to beat the drop.
Blayney have won a couple of D1 county minor titles (including this years) so talent is coming through for them but that will take a few years to make an impact at adult level. They'll be intermediate for a few years more I'd say. It was bad news for them that Truagh got relegated from Senior this year.
Quote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.
Quote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
Ballinasloe in Galway would be similar to Newry. Hasn't been on the GAA radar for a few decades even though in the roll of honour of county titles it is 3rd. last title 1980
Tuam Stars 1st on the list but also down on their luck. Last title 1994.
Both teams always had players on the big county teams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galway_Senior_Football_Championship
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 02:29:56 PMQuote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.
And gone for this year I am told along with Vinny Brady which means zero players from Armagh City currently on panel.
Quote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
That's a good comparsion.
Newry seems a bit like Derry City. Big potential and population etc. but needs investment.
I think there's an Armagh club in outskirts of Newry?
Somebody told me that the two schools in Newry, Colman's and Abbey now haven't got as many of the south Armagh boys as they all head to the big school St. Paul's in Bressbrook. To the detriment of school's football in Newry.
Quote from: marty34 on October 24, 2023, 06:03:12 PMQuote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
That's a good comparsion.
Newry seems a bit like Derry City. Big potential and population etc. but needs investment.
I think there's an Armagh club in outskirts of Newry?
Somebody told me that the two schools in Newry, Colman's and Abbey now haven't got as many of the south Armagh boys as they all head to the big school St. Paul's in Bressbrook. To the detriment of school's football in Newry.
You've Thomas Davis Corrinshego just off the motorway there with a brand new club house and pitch but they haven't really got the players to match the facilities yet.
Yeah St Pauls would probably pick up a fair few that might have went to Newry in days gone by.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 25, 2023, 07:35:44 AMQuote from: marty34 on October 24, 2023, 06:03:12 PMQuote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
That's a good comparsion.
Newry seems a bit like Derry City. Big potential and population etc. but needs investment.
I think there's an Armagh club in outskirts of Newry?
Somebody told me that the two schools in Newry, Colman's and Abbey now haven't got as many of the south Armagh boys as they all head to the big school St. Paul's in Bressbrook. To the detriment of school's football in Newry.
You've Thomas Davis Corrinshego just off the motorway there with a brand new club house and pitch but they haven't really got the players to match the facilities yet.
Yeah St Pauls would probably pick up a fair few that might have went to Newry in days gone by.
And St Ronan's - there always was a few Lurgan lads on those McCrory winning teams.
Has to be The Windmill. Once the scourge of the elite in Tyrone football. Now playing friendlies against Carnan Accordion Band.
Quote from: statto on October 24, 2023, 04:25:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 02:29:56 PMQuote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.
And gone for this year I am told along with Vinny Brady which means zero players from Armagh City currently on panel.
Lurgan would be stronger than Armagh for GAA?
You'd think Armagh City would be a lot stronger.
Quote from: marty34 on October 27, 2023, 11:33:02 PMQuote from: statto on October 24, 2023, 04:25:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 02:29:56 PMQuote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.
And gone for this year I am told along with Vinny Brady which means zero players from Armagh City currently on panel.
Lurgan would be stronger than Armagh for GAA?
You'd think Armagh City would be a lot stronger.
Not really. Lurgan has near twice the population of Armagh city (31k and 16k).
Armagh is approx 67% fenian, Lurgan around 62%...
Quote from: general_lee on October 28, 2023, 12:19:54 AMQuote from: marty34 on October 27, 2023, 11:33:02 PMQuote from: statto on October 24, 2023, 04:25:58 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 02:29:56 PMQuote from: Feckitt on October 24, 2023, 01:30:12 PMCompare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population, whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!
Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.
And gone for this year I am told along with Vinny Brady which means zero players from Armagh City currently on panel.
Lurgan would be stronger than Armagh for GAA?
You'd think Armagh City would be a lot stronger.
Not really. Lurgan has near twice the population of Armagh city (31k and 16k).
Armagh is approx 67% fenian, Lurgan around 62%...
Wouldn't have thought it be as high tbh.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 28, 2023, 07:11:15 AMQuote from: general_lee on October 28, 2023, 12:19:54 AMNot really. Lurgan has near twice the population of Armagh city (31k and 16k).
Armagh is approx 67% fenian, Lurgan around 62%...
Wouldn't have thought it be as high tbh.
On Census day (21 March 2021) there were 16,310 people living in Armagh.[5] Of these: 67.3% (10,977) belong to or were brought up in the Catholic Christian faith and 23.76% (3,875) belong to or were brought up in a 'Protestant and Other Christian (including Christian related)' religion. 1.35% belong to other religions and 7.59% have no religious background.
The two Armagh city clubs have twice the pick of Armagh clubs generally.
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 24, 2023, 10:04:25 AMNewry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.
One of my earliest memories is being at the Down championship final between Newry Mitchels and Ballykinlar in 1963 (I think). Mitchels won 4-2 to 1-10. I met Paddy Doherty after the game and he was such a legend it was like meeting Santa Claus.
The decline of both clubs since then has been very sad to watch
Kerins ORahillys from Tralee relegated to Intermediate in Kerry last night.
Senior since 1927.
The 3 Tralee Clubs all Inter now!!
Quote from: Rossfan on October 29, 2023, 08:46:10 AMKerins ORahillys from Tralee relegated to Intermediate in Kerry last night.
Senior since 1927.
The 3 Tralee Clubs all Inter now!!
That's deadly.
Makes you wonder why Kerry only deem 8 of their clubs worthy of being senior level at any one time...
Quote from: general_lee on October 29, 2023, 09:37:03 AMMakes you wonder why Kerry only deem 8 of their clubs worthy of being senior level at any one time...
So they can have very competitive Senior Championship instead of having a load of Clubs most of whose only aim is to stay Senior with never a hope of competing for the Title.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 29, 2023, 10:30:19 AMQuote from: general_lee on October 29, 2023, 09:37:03 AMMakes you wonder why Kerry only deem 8 of their clubs worthy of being senior level at any one time...
So they can have very competitive Senior Championship instead of having a load of Clubs most of whose only aim is to stay Senior with never a hope of competing for the Title.
That's a bit of a nonsense. They could have 12 Senior clubs and the rest of Divisional teams. 64 clubs in Kerry , there is more then 8 who are Senior standard.
Some of the Divisional teams like East Kerry are made up of 8 or 9 clubs. They would still be strong with less clubs.
Sean Kelly even said there should be more clubs in senior
A bit more annoyance with the structure after the game yesterday
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Quote from: rodney trotter on October 29, 2023, 12:25:08 PMQuote from: Rossfan on October 29, 2023, 10:30:19 AMQuote from: general_lee on October 29, 2023, 09:37:03 AMMakes you wonder why Kerry only deem 8 of their clubs worthy of being senior level at any one time...
So they can have very competitive Senior Championship instead of having a load of Clubs most of whose only aim is to stay Senior with never a hope of competing for the Title.
That's a bit of a nonsense. They could have 12 Senior clubs and the rest of Divisional teams. 64 clubs in Kerry , there is more then 8 who are Senior standard.
Some of the Divisional teams like East Kerry are made up of 8 or 9 clubs. They would still be strong with less clubs.
Sean Kelly even said there should be more clubs in senior
I'd say Kerry CB and GAA couldn't give 2 fcuks what you think ;D
Kerry have divisional teams and downgrade hurling. Kilkenny don't even play in the NFL.
Both know how to win all Irelands
Arrah buck I laid out Kerry CBs reasons for having only 8 Senior Clubs.
Yer man said that was nonsense.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 30, 2023, 06:55:04 AMNo I didn't. Buck.
That was another poster and in his defence, he explained why he thought that.
Apologies....edited now.
Grace never remarried
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Gifford