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Aye, if you're a bonehead.

Good Lord! Resort to personal insults... discussion board indeed.

GAA and GPA issue joint statement calling calling for 'immediate and sustained ceasefire'. Equivication with hostages. Condemnation would have been more apt but it's something I suppose.. 

I remember being at a minor club game and Martin Coyle and Liam Donnelly had just managed Tyrone to 2004 All Ireland minor final. This aul boy was complaining that lad from his club wasn't on the team. I ses, "They just won the All Ireland!"... he replied, "Just about..." Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
I'd go after Tally and whoever he brings with him... he won Kerry that All Ireland in 2022 albeit Tyrone not in same place they were when he went down the road...

I remember being at a minor club game and Martin Coyle and Liam Donnelly had just managed Tyrone to 2004 All Ireland minor final. This aul boy was complaining that lad from his club wasn't on the team. I ses, "They just won the All Ireland!"... he replied, "Just about..." Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
I'd go after Tally and whoever he brings with him... he won Kerry that All Ireland in 2022 albeit Tyrone not in same place they were when he went down the road...

It's like the boy who argued against Raymond Munroe stepping to to the senior role in 2011 cos he, according to the armchair expert "almost cost us 2 All Irelands minor titles in '08 and '10"

Exactly. Is a lot of that. Or you could have rolled that team out of a bag...

He'd tighten up the back line for a start

That's what he turned in Kerry. In '22 the amount of turnovers etc was so obviously Paddy's work... year before Tyrone hit them for 3 goals and other games they were getting torn apart at the back.

I remember being at a minor club game and Martin Coyle and Liam Donnelly had just managed Tyrone to 2004 All Ireland minor final. This aul boy was complaining that lad from his club wasn't on the team. I ses, "They just won the All Ireland!"... he replied, "Just about..." Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
I'd go after Tally and whoever he brings with him... he won Kerry that All Ireland in 2022 albeit Tyrone not in same place they were when he went down the road...

Joe is our very own Boris Johnson

Good Lord! Boris Johnson now... who lead a county into a Covid hellhole costing 10s of 1000s of lives, overseen a Tory party created more foodbanks than ever, totally corrupt prime minister... wat bout Netenyahu?!

In his very similar bullshitting characteristics.  Didn't think that needed pointing out but here we are...

It did... bizzare comparison

[Some deflections there to drag down the contribution of the GAA to Irish society.]

Yes I'm involved at local level. And the GAA is an overwhelming force for good across Ireland, but Joe is disparaging of other sports as if they are less worthy or less valid in their endeavours and has a holier than ye view on the GAA as if there aren't real issues. Maybe the Prof could do a paper on the incidence of assault across codes or untaxed second incomes (paid managers), I'd suggest GAA doesn't fare favourably to the average golf soccer or rubgy club.

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/1429655/longford-court-hears-details-of-alleged-assault-during-gaa-challenge-game.html

https://www.the42.ie/david-brady-club-gaa-manager-payments-5014600-Feb2020/

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41071760.html

Some deflections there to drag down the contribution of the GAA to Irish society. The GAA at local level has done more to hold communities together than any other organisation, church included.. during good times and challenging times such as huge immigration, the war years and Covid... not sure has Joe ridiculed golf! I enjoy soccer and rugby as much as the next man but isn't comparable what they do on a wider community level and have their own assaults too I'm sure cud be dug out of the archives

Nuance. Joe is a GAA evangelist, and more power to him, buts its OK to point out that its not a bed of roses, and that a GAA up-sell doesn't need to go hand in hand with pulling the efforts of other people in other codes down, their contribution is no less valid or worthy, or are we saying there is a hierarchy of contribution of Irish society/goodness/greatness. The GAA is the new church, a bit of healthy critique never went amiss

The GAA is a far cry from what the church was abusing its power... agreed isn't above critique but digging out assault cases on websites sake of having a go at the GAA is a bit much, could do same for rugby and soccer.
Joe usually goes into the hierarchy thing on the podcast when Dion cites soccer as if its comparable.. its not.

The GAA is the new Church is a statement of description, where Church = dogma/cult/religious fervor, the new thing.
But you being somewhat 'emotional' equate the  refereed to "church" as  being the Catholic church.

To be fair I did assume you meant Catholic Church as it was the main religion here... you're too smart for me and the dictionary:
Have tried various definitions of church and hard to find that one... is generally referring to a building or a particular religion. But that definition you use, how did I not get that?! Lol!

Joe is our very own Boris Johnson

Good Lord! Boris Johnson now... who lead a county into a Covid hellhole costing 10s of 1000s of lives, overseen a Tory party created more foodbanks than ever, totally corrupt prime minister... wat bout Netenyahu?!

Do Tyrone need to drop the policy of only employing from within the county?

Can't see that happening. Think only us, Dublin and Kerry have this policy (I stand to be corrected). Personally, I want the policy to continue. It would be an admission that there's no one good enough within the county to do the job. I would never believe that.

Agreed plenty of good coaches from Tyrone. Was Tally took Kerry across the line in 2022. The difference in the back division was most evident when he went there... Jack knew what he was doing getting him in.

[Some deflections there to drag down the contribution of the GAA to Irish society.]

Yes I'm involved at local level. And the GAA is an overwhelming force for good across Ireland, but Joe is disparaging of other sports as if they are less worthy or less valid in their endeavours and has a holier than ye view on the GAA as if there aren't real issues. Maybe the Prof could do a paper on the incidence of assault across codes or untaxed second incomes (paid managers), I'd suggest GAA doesn't fare favourably to the average golf soccer or rubgy club.

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/1429655/longford-court-hears-details-of-alleged-assault-during-gaa-challenge-game.html

https://www.the42.ie/david-brady-club-gaa-manager-payments-5014600-Feb2020/

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41071760.html

Some deflections there to drag down the contribution of the GAA to Irish society. The GAA at local level has done more to hold communities together than any other organisation, church included.. during good times and challenging times such as huge immigration, the war years and Covid... not sure has Joe ridiculed golf! I enjoy soccer and rugby as much as the next man but isn't comparable what they do on a wider community level and have their own assaults too I'm sure cud be dug out of the archives

Nuance. Joe is a GAA evangelist, and more power to him, buts its OK to point out that its not a bed of roses, and that a GAA up-sell doesn't need to go hand in hand with pulling the efforts of other people in other codes down, their contribution is no less valid or worthy, or are we saying there is a hierarchy of contribution of Irish society/goodness/greatness. The GAA is the new church, a bit of healthy critique never went amiss

The GAA is a far cry from what the church was abusing its power... agreed isn't above critique but digging out assault cases on websites sake of having a go at the GAA is a bit much, could do same for rugby and soccer.
Joe usually goes into the hierarchy thing on the podcast when Dion cites soccer as if its comparable.. its not.

Is obvious too many games... I think you can lose three games and remain in the championship. Is hardly 'championship' football. People be inclined to wait to quarter-finals.

Do Tyrone need to drop the policy of only employing from within the county?

'Employing'... ?

Would you take harte back! Not many managers out there willing to do the job anymore

Not a chance... was holding back a team that won an All Ireland. Mickey did great work with Tyrone way back but that ship has long sailed.

Yes I'm involved at local level. And the GAA is an overwhelming force for good across Ireland, but Joe is disparaging of other sports as if they are less worthy or less valid in their endeavours and has a holier than ye view on the GAA as if there aren't real issues. Maybe the Prof could do a paper on the incidence of assault across codes or untaxed second incomes (paid managers), I'd suggest GAA doesn't fare favourably to the average golf soccer or rubgy club.

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/1429655/longford-court-hears-details-of-alleged-assault-during-gaa-challenge-game.html

https://www.the42.ie/david-brady-club-gaa-manager-payments-5014600-Feb2020/

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41071760.html

Some deflections there to drag down the contribution of the GAA to Irish society. The GAA at local level has done more to hold communities together than any other organisation, church included.. during good times and challenging times such as huge immigration, the war years and Covid... not sure has Joe ridiculed golf! I enjoy soccer and rugby as much as the next man but isn't comparable what they do on a wider community level and have their own assaults too I'm sure cud be dug out of the archives

Maybe you're not involved with GAA at a local level..
This GAA.

"It completely blew my mind," said Professor Shibli. "I thought to myself 'I've got to find out more about this."

What came back, he says now, was a "unique insight" into what he was dealing with that's "not your average golf, rugby or soccer club which is typically what I have dealt with. This, to me, is something quite different."
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/the-gaas-value-to-society-is-immense-on-all-fronts-says-english-university-professor/a1423808064.html