Sigerson Cup 2024

Started by mad tan, January 08, 2024, 08:55:55 PM

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Duine Inteacht Eile

I can see an argument for both ways to be fair though I disagree with the advantage rule in another way.
The idea that you when you clearly had an advantage but ballsed it up that you still get a free.
I think it should be a free or an advantage, not both.

Note (for some): I am not making reference to how the rule is interpreted or refereed. I simply disagree with the rule itself. It doesn't make sense to me.

Armagh18

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 10, 2024, 09:54:50 AMI can see an argument for both ways to be fair though I disagree with the advantage rule in another way.
The idea that you when you clearly had an advantage but ballsed it up that you still get a free.
I think it should be a free or an advantage, not both.

Note (for some): I am not making reference to how the rule is interpreted or refereed. I simply disagree with the rule itself. It doesn't make sense to me.

obvious case there recently would be the junior club final few weeks ago. Surely it was better to let that lad have his advantage and score a goal than take him back for a free

Duine Inteacht Eile

I'm not sure that's related to what I'm saying. It might be but I don't recall the incident.

My point is that if you are fouled, you should get a free or be allowed to go on if the opportunity is deemed to be more advantageous than the original free.
So, if you manage to get a goal opportunity, that's clearly more advantageous. If you miss that goal opportunity, that should be tough luck and play should continue as normal. I don't believe that you should be presented with a second scoring opportunity for the original foul.

Armagh18

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 10, 2024, 11:38:15 AMI'm not sure that's related to what I'm saying. It might be but I don't recall the incident.

My point is that if you are fouled, you should get a free or be allowed to go on if the opportunity is deemed to be more advantageous than the original free.
So, if you manage to get a goal opportunity, that's clearly more advantageous. If you miss that goal opportunity, that should be tough luck and play should continue as normal. I don't believe that you should be presented with a second scoring opportunity for the original foul.
Depends if you're taking your shot off balance with a man hanging off you then thats clearly not advantageous.

pjm

Mad to have final in Tralee on a midweek; if they need to hold it at a college there surely is a pitch in Dundalk

Milltown Row2

Advantage doesn't give the player who's earned that carte Blanche within the 5 seconds
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 10, 2024, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 10, 2024, 11:38:15 AMI'm not sure that's related to what I'm saying. It might be but I don't recall the incident.

My point is that if you are fouled, you should get a free or be allowed to go on if the opportunity is deemed to be more advantageous than the original free.
So, if you manage to get a goal opportunity, that's clearly more advantageous. If you miss that goal opportunity, that should be tough luck and play should continue as normal. I don't believe that you should be presented with a second scoring opportunity for the original foul.
Depends if you're taking your shot off balance with a man hanging off you then thats clearly not advantageous.

There was only one foul before he took too many steps. The needed to call it back before he took the extra steps or give a free out
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Mikhailov

Quote from: pjm on February 10, 2024, 03:51:22 PMMad to have final in Tralee on a midweek; if they need to hold it at a college there surely is a pitch in Dundalk

Crazy but there must be a valid reason why it is Tralee. It is some trek midweek for UUJ in fairness

Armagh18

Quote from: Mikhailov on February 10, 2024, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: pjm on February 10, 2024, 03:51:22 PMMad to have final in Tralee on a midweek; if they need to hold it at a college there surely is a pitch in Dundalk

Crazy but there must be a valid reason why it is Tralee. It is some trek midweek for UUJ in fairness
Would love to know what that reason is!

Saffrongael

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 10, 2024, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on February 10, 2024, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: pjm on February 10, 2024, 03:51:22 PMMad to have final in Tralee on a midweek; if they need to hold it at a college there surely is a pitch in Dundalk

Crazy but there must be a valid reason why it is Tralee. It is some trek midweek for UUJ in fairness
Would love to know what that reason is!

These final venues are set well in advance and it's regardless of who makes the final, Fitzgibbon final also in Tralee.
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Milltown Row2

Yeah I thought all that was arranged from year to year.

You could have Final next year arranged for Jordanstown and Cork are in the final!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Saffrongael

It's not as if they need time off work, well Glass might  ;)
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Saffrongael on February 10, 2024, 05:23:17 PMIt's not as if they need time off work, well Glass might  ;)

He can bring like a mobile coffee van down! Could make a killing
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Mikhailov

Quote from: Saffrongael on February 10, 2024, 05:23:17 PMIt's not as if they need time off work, well Glass might  ;)

Think it is the supporters or parents he was referring to - crazy journey to undertake midweek

Don't envy them

Blowitupref

The final on Wednesday night and number of players to play for their county teams on Saturday is far from great scheduling either.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose