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#31
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
August 10, 2020, 12:31:34 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 10, 2020, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 10, 2020, 10:01:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 10, 2020, 06:35:28 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 10, 2020, 01:16:05 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2020, 12:41:13 AM

It's a case of personal responsibility at this stage but some of the foreign nationals don't get that, particular the Muslims and the ethic travelling community.
This is like bad satire.

Sure why focus on the actual personal responsibility of the owners and management at meat processing plants to ensure safe working conditions when you can just lump it all on low wage workers and ethnic minorities.

The vacuous right-wing mantra of "personal responsibility" is both a dog whistle and a self-consciously fraudulent grift to protect untrammelled corporate power, and lack of corporate responsibility, and incompetence or worse.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/meat-plant-clusters-may-be-down-to-softly-softly-approach-1.4324924?mode=amp

We know now what works to stop the virus: distance, hand hygiene, masks. We know where the risky environments are: crowded indoor spaces, meat plants, shared accommodation.
Minimum wage workers have a "personal responsibility" to ensure they get their own flats rather than live in cramped shared accommodation, no doubt
Minimum wage workers live in cramped shared accommodation because they are on a minimum wage and can't afford to pay the rent and other bills on there own.

Rents in places like Timahoe, Ballyhaunis or Ballyjamesduff aren't outrageous, especially for house shares. Many people come here to work in meat plants so they can save or send money home.
Yes I agree on a shared house but it wouldn't be viable for someone to move to Ballyhaunis on a minimum wage and rent a flat on there own.
#32
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
August 10, 2020, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 10, 2020, 10:01:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 10, 2020, 06:35:28 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 10, 2020, 01:16:05 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2020, 12:41:13 AM

It's a case of personal responsibility at this stage but some of the foreign nationals don't get that, particular the Muslims and the ethic travelling community.
This is like bad satire.

Sure why focus on the actual personal responsibility of the owners and management at meat processing plants to ensure safe working conditions when you can just lump it all on low wage workers and ethnic minorities.

The vacuous right-wing mantra of "personal responsibility" is both a dog whistle and a self-consciously fraudulent grift to protect untrammelled corporate power, and lack of corporate responsibility, and incompetence or worse.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/meat-plant-clusters-may-be-down-to-softly-softly-approach-1.4324924?mode=amp

We know now what works to stop the virus: distance, hand hygiene, masks. We know where the risky environments are: crowded indoor spaces, meat plants, shared accommodation.
Minimum wage workers have a "personal responsibility" to ensure they get their own flats rather than live in cramped shared accommodation, no doubt
Minimum wage workers live in cramped shared accommodation because they are on a minimum wage and can't afford to pay the rent and other bills on there own.
#33
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 03, 2020, 10:16:42 AM
SFC Round 1

CPN vs Burren
Kilcoo vs Mayobridge
Ballyholland vs Darraghcross
Glenn vs Bryansford
Carryduff vs Clonduff
Rostrevor vs RGU
Longstone vs Loughinisland
Castlewellan vs Bredagh

IFC Round 1

An Riocht vs Teconnaught
Annaclone vs Bright
Leitrim vs Saval
Atticall vs Shamrocks
Dromara vs St Johns
Bosco vs Tullylish
Saul vs Ballymartin
Drumgath va Clann na Banna

JFC Round 1

St Paul's vs Mitchell's
Glassdrumman vs St Michaels
Finn vs Ardglass
Dundrum vs East Belfast
Aghaderg vs Drumaness
#34
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
July 26, 2020, 10:44:08 AM
Interesting game with United only needing a draw probably making them more defensive could possibly suit Leicester.
#35
GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
July 20, 2020, 08:35:51 PM
In saying all that if Blaneys pass to Linden someone got a hand to the ball or Ciaran McCabe rattles the crossbar Derry would probably have gone close back to back. It's a fine line between winning and losing sometimes. If Carr misses that free against Derry in 91 who knows. If a team wins no one thinks about the mistakes but if they lose every decision is scrutinised.
#36
GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
July 20, 2020, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 20, 2020, 02:13:22 PM
Have the forms for transferring. Was talking to someone at my old club, who I havent played for since 2006, seem to think transfer deadline for the year was March.
Whats the story with this?
Normally there is no deadline.  It usually takes about 6 weeks from request if no objections from club.  I think it can all be done online as well now.

If a player hasn't played for a club for 2 years I am not sure if they need a transfer if they are no longer living in the parish.
#37
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 16, 2020, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: GJL on July 16, 2020, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 16, 2020, 10:58:22 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 16, 2020, 10:24:38 AM
Well I for one am looking forward to the trophy presentation so you can stick yer old skool 😉

Enjoy it. Best team by far, well deserved.

Absolutely. Some year by Liverpool.

It would be a shame not to win the game on the day of the presentation. 😉

Immaterial now....sure makes no odds if they do or not....
Grab a jersey, 5 up front, no tracking back, could be a goalfest

#38
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
July 06, 2020, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 06, 2020, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on July 06, 2020, 02:47:05 PM
The stats don't speak for themselves though.

I was reading on this board some debate on David De Gea so I googled to see what his overall numbers for the season are as opposed to anecdotal remembering of 1 or 2 mistakes and the very first article I clicked on was below.  It has Allison in bottom place and if you go purely on this statistic Allison is the worst keeper in the league.

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/saves?po=GOALKEEPER

This is the sort of 1 number without context information we are getting on covid.  To give the numbers more meaning they at a minimum should be broken down by age range, with or from, healthy/underlying health condition/terminal illness, lab test diagnosis or suspected.  Without any breakdown the statistics we are being given are only slightly above meaningless.

The stats are pretty clear in New York City and the surrounding areas.

Massive outbreak, hospitals at breaking point.

Everything gets shut down, people stay home and don't mix, they don't go to bars or cinemas or concerts or Broadway, subway ridership declines massively, they wear masks when they do have to go out.

Slowly things get better, especially after the mask mandate goes into effect.

You can try to argue that it was using a sledge hammer to crack a nut if you want, but what other option was there with a new virus in a massive, extremely dense population which is completely reliant on public transport and is located at a major global crossroads?
That is a good analogy.  Hopefully in years to come we can get to a point where we can see with more clarity whether we are using a sledge hammer to crack a nut or not.
#39
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
July 06, 2020, 02:47:05 PM
The stats don't speak for themselves though.

I was reading on this board some debate on David De Gea so I googled to see what his overall numbers for the season are as opposed to anecdotal remembering of 1 or 2 mistakes and the very first article I clicked on was below.  It has Allison in bottom place and if you go purely on this statistic Allison is the worst keeper in the league.

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/saves?po=GOALKEEPER

This is the sort of 1 number without context information we are getting on covid.  To give the numbers more meaning they at a minimum should be broken down by age range, with or from, healthy/underlying health condition/terminal illness, lab test diagnosis or suspected.  Without any breakdown the statistics we are being given are only slightly above meaningless.
#40
GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
July 06, 2020, 10:57:48 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 06, 2020, 09:45:55 AM
Quote from: Maiden1 on July 03, 2020, 09:49:24 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 03, 2020, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: Maiden1 on July 02, 2020, 01:27:39 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on July 01, 2020, 11:05:46 PM
East Belfast's first fixture:
Div 4 Round 1 Friday 17th July at 7.30pm
St Michael's v East Belfast
There have been a few clubs come and gone in last 25 years or so in Down

Ballela
Killyleagh
Ballykinlar

I think 1 of the biggest issues will be that they will probably take a lot of beatings in the first few years unless they can get a few 1/2 decent players and it hard to keep the interest up if that is the case.  St Michael's might be 1 of the easier fixtures to start of with but it is a long way to Magheralin.  It will probably seem like a long drive on a Friday night from Dundrum if a lot of the players are only learning how to toe tap a ball and they take a bit of a beating.  Hurling even more so I am not sure at senior level it will be possible to be competitive unless they can get mostly players who have played before.  Underage they should be fine if they have the numbers and half decent coaches.

Balella are still going at the hurling.

I'd say East Belfast could avail of the GAA pitch in Ormeau Park if they're stuck.
Yeah they tried football for a season in the mid 90s but they took a lot of bad beatings and stopped.  Football should be easier if you have played rugby and are fairly fit you should be able to catch and kick the ball.  Not sure hurling will work well unless more or less all the players have played a bit before and are now living in East Belfast.

I saw the other day that Ballygalget lost out to Loughinisland in an Intermediate league decider in 1968, things could have been different if they had won that game :)

My Da would have played on that team and by his own admission they'd a few handy footballers but also more than their fare share of course christians with one particular team never stripping out in the changing rooms and always parking on the roadside for a quick getaway...

Better for everyone that they gave up the football then.
haha better to let them on to the field with hurly sticks then ;D
#41
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
July 05, 2020, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on July 05, 2020, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 05, 2020, 03:22:35 PM
The death total seems to have been artificially inflated from what I've heard. A lot of ppl down as dying from Covid when they had a terminal illness. Why?
Probably because they actually died from Covid.
In Ireland we counted all deaths, in all settings, suspected cases even when no lab test was done, and included people with underlying terminal illnesses who died with Covid but not of it.

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1278995351169613824
#42
GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
July 03, 2020, 09:49:24 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 03, 2020, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: Maiden1 on July 02, 2020, 01:27:39 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on July 01, 2020, 11:05:46 PM
East Belfast's first fixture:
Div 4 Round 1 Friday 17th July at 7.30pm
St Michael's v East Belfast
There have been a few clubs come and gone in last 25 years or so in Down

Ballela
Killyleagh
Ballykinlar

I think 1 of the biggest issues will be that they will probably take a lot of beatings in the first few years unless they can get a few 1/2 decent players and it hard to keep the interest up if that is the case.  St Michael's might be 1 of the easier fixtures to start of with but it is a long way to Magheralin.  It will probably seem like a long drive on a Friday night from Dundrum if a lot of the players are only learning how to toe tap a ball and they take a bit of a beating.  Hurling even more so I am not sure at senior level it will be possible to be competitive unless they can get mostly players who have played before.  Underage they should be fine if they have the numbers and half decent coaches.

Balella are still going at the hurling.

I'd say East Belfast could avail of the GAA pitch in Ormeau Park if they're stuck.
Yeah they tried football for a season in the mid 90s but they took a lot of bad beatings and stopped.  Football should be easier if you have played rugby and are fairly fit you should be able to catch and kick the ball.  Not sure hurling will work well unless more or less all the players have played a bit before and are now living in East Belfast.

I saw the other day that Ballygalget lost out to Loughinisland in an Intermediate league decider in 1968, things could have been different if they had won that game :)
#43
GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
July 02, 2020, 01:27:39 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on July 01, 2020, 11:05:46 PM
East Belfast's first fixture:
Div 4 Round 1 Friday 17th July at 7.30pm
St Michael's v East Belfast
There have been a few clubs come and gone in last 25 years or so in Down

Ballela
Killyleagh
Ballykinlar

I think 1 of the biggest issues will be that they will probably take a lot of beatings in the first few years unless they can get a few 1/2 decent players and it hard to keep the interest up if that is the case.  St Michael's might be 1 of the easier fixtures to start of with but it is a long way to Magheralin.  It will probably seem like a long drive on a Friday night from Dundrum if a lot of the players are only learning how to toe tap a ball and they take a bit of a beating.  Hurling even more so I am not sure at senior level it will be possible to be competitive unless they can get mostly players who have played before.  Underage they should be fine if they have the numbers and half decent coaches.
#45
There is clearly deep generational inequalities within black communities but the causation of greater poverty in black communities, leading to more crime, leading to higher homicide rates is also true.

To me the biggest issue for black communities is the generational catch 22 cycle of people from very poor neighbourhoods having to work 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs to keep a roof over their head and not being able to afford to get their children into a good college and therefore perpetuate the cycle of poverty which has to be somehow addressed.

At the minute Universities giving a couple of scholarship 'how can I be racist I have a black friend' is fairly meaningless to most.  I hope this movement opens up a more general discussion on what can be done to start to address this and other poverty traps and doesn't fizzle out in a few weeks time when a black square is not as fashionable.