Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[LCohen]

I have little time for SF in the 26 and will have even less when the awful Marylou is crowned.
I know where they're coming from in the 6 and where their sidekicks the Provo IRA were coming from.
The lads who shot the Kingsmill workers certainly deserve to be called terrorists anyway.

What about the lads who shot the Protestant men and boys in Dunmanway?

Is anybody defending them?

Anyway back to SF. A 3 month suspension from the party means precisely nothing. It's a non punishment. For all their talk this morning they have decided to ignore this one and ride it out.

Probably won't hurt them in the north. SDLP can't get going so the only threat to SF is an apathetic turnout. Might hurt them in the south though. There is a respect agenda in SF. But that is all it is - an agenda. There is no moral or intellectual commitment to giving respect

More just turning a blind eye and acting like republicans in the pre-troubles conflict never did anything deplorable while pontificating to northern nationalists about the acts of the Provos.

As long as people aren't turning a blind eye to those putting themselves up for election today or trying to deflect attention away from scrutiny of these individuals

[Il Bomber Destro]

I have little time for SF in the 26 and will have even less when the awful Marylou is crowned.
I know where they're coming from in the 6 and where their sidekicks the Provo IRA were coming from.
The lads who shot the Kingsmill workers certainly deserve to be called terrorists anyway.

What about the lads who shot the Protestant men and boys in Dunmanway?

Is anybody defending them?

Anyway back to SF. A 3 month suspension from the party means precisely nothing. It's a non punishment. For all their talk this morning they have decided to ignore this one and ride it out.

Probably won't hurt them in the north. SDLP can't get going so the only threat to SF is an apathetic turnout. Might hurt them in the south though. There is a respect agenda in SF. But that is all it is - an agenda. There is no moral or intellectual commitment to giving respect

More just turning a blind eye and acting like republicans in the pre-troubles conflict never did anything deplorable while pontificating to northern nationalists about the acts of the Provos.

As long as people aren't turning a blind eye to those putting themselves up for election today or trying to deflect attention away from scrutiny of these individuals

I've commented on the incident, I'm not trying to deflect away from anything. I merely made a point of certain posters expressing their outrage on this incident when they had very little to say on recent and more serious topical matters involving the establishment parties in their state.

Do you think if a SF minister was embroiled in smear campaign labeling a PSNI whistleblower as a child molester it would be bigger news than this?

[seafoid]

I have little time for SF in the 26 and will have even less when the awful Marylou is crowned.
I know where they're coming from in the 6 and where their sidekicks the Provo IRA were coming from.
The lads who shot the Kingsmill workers certainly deserve to be called terrorists anyway.

Just read into why the Kingsmill incident happened. And identify those that died. That's all I'm saying.

That's part of the problem with looking back at the past. All incidents are related in one way or another. Dealing with each in isolation leads to a narrative that my victims are more important than your victims.

Then you have to ask about how much the british knew about every attack - they had quite a number of spies and agents working for them on both sides.

I remember in the 1970's, it seemed that each murder was bringing us closer and closer to outright civil war and only one more would tip us over the edge.

It's war, these were ordinary people doing things they would not do in the normal course of their lives.

What is more important to look at were those who could have intervened before things spiraled out of control but chose not to - The Free State and British Governments.

That defence wouldn't fly at the Hague

[Il Bomber Destro]

I have little time for SF in the 26 and will have even less when the awful Marylou is crowned.
I know where they're coming from in the 6 and where their sidekicks the Provo IRA were coming from.
The lads who shot the Kingsmill workers certainly deserve to be called terrorists anyway.

Just read into why the Kingsmill incident happened. And identify those that died. That's all I'm saying.

That's part of the problem with looking back at the past. All incidents are related in one way or another. Dealing with each in isolation leads to a narrative that my victims are more important than your victims.

Then you have to ask about how much the british knew about every attack - they had quite a number of spies and agents working for them on both sides.

I remember in the 1970's, it seemed that each murder was bringing us closer and closer to outright civil war and only one more would tip us over the edge.

It's war, these were ordinary people doing things they would not do in the normal course of their lives.

What is more important to look at were those who could have intervened before things spiraled out of control but chose not to - The Free State and British Governments.

That defence wouldn't fly at the Hague

How did ye get away with Dunmanway so?

[seafoid]

I have little time for SF in the 26 and will have even less when the awful Marylou is crowned.
I know where they're coming from in the 6 and where their sidekicks the Provo IRA were coming from.
The lads who shot the Kingsmill workers certainly deserve to be called terrorists anyway.

Just read into why the Kingsmill incident happened. And identify those that died. That's all I'm saying.

That's part of the problem with looking back at the past. All incidents are related in one way or another. Dealing with each in isolation leads to a narrative that my victims are more important than your victims.

Then you have to ask about how much the british knew about every attack - they had quite a number of spies and agents working for them on both sides.

I remember in the 1970's, it seemed that each murder was bringing us closer and closer to outright civil war and only one more would tip us over the edge.

It's war, these were ordinary people doing things they would not do in the normal course of their lives.

What is more important to look at were those who could have intervened before things spiraled out of control but chose not to - The Free State and British Governments.

That defence wouldn't fly at the Hague

How did ye get away with Dunmanway so?

autres temps autres moeurs

[Applesisapples]

Who'll ever forget "Curry my yoghurt can coca coalyer" - purposely said in the assembly in full view of the cameras??

The bold Gregory didn't even get a reprimand from his own party for trying to insult the entire other side, let alone a suspension.

You think this is comparable to taunting victims of mass murder?

It is comparable to Stalfords remarks on Bloody Sunday and the general glorification of the paras, none of it acceptable.

[Farrandeelin]

My tuppence worth on this ramshackle 'debate'.

If that's the calibre of elected politicians then I pity the people of West Tyrone. I've never seen clowns on fb putting a loaf of bread on their head, and by Christ there's plenty of them too. I'm not to judge whether or not he meant offence? But it seems like it.

[Avondhu star]

I have little time for SF in the 26 and will have even less when the awful Marylou is crowned.
I know where they're coming from in the 6 and where their sidekicks the Provo IRA were coming from.
The lads who shot the Kingsmill workers certainly deserve to be called terrorists anyway.

Just read into why the Kingsmill incident happened. And identify those that died. That's all I'm saying.

That's part of the problem with looking back at the past. All incidents are related in one way or another. Dealing with each in isolation leads to a narrative that my victims are more important than your victims.

Then you have to ask about how much the british knew about every attack - they had quite a number of spies and agents working for them on both sides.

I remember in the 1970's, it seemed that each murder was bringing us closer and closer to outright civil war and only one more would tip us over the edge.

It's war, these were ordinary people doing things they would not do in the normal course of their lives.

What is more important to look at were those who could have intervened before things spiraled out of control but chose not to - The Free State and British Governments.

That defence wouldn't fly at the Hague

How did ye get away with Dunmanway so?

This is from someone who couldn't find his way to Dundonald never mind Dunmanway. Your friend got a three month suspension so he has plenty time to work on hisc comedy act for Britain's got talent

[Orchard park]

My tuppence worth on this ramshackle 'debate'.

If that's the calibre of elected politicians then I pity the people of West Tyrone. I've never seen clowns on fb putting a loaf of bread on their head, and by Christ there's plenty of them too. I'm not to judge whether or not he meant offence? But it seems like it.

nail on the head despite all the diversions and sidetrack fudging here

[Longshanks]

I know Willie Frazier and bizarre go hand in hand but that facebook video he put up lastnight was just madness altogether.

[Avondhu star]

My tuppence worth on this ramshackle 'debate'.

If that's the calibre of elected politicians then I pity the people of West Tyrone. I've never seen clowns on fb putting a loaf of bread on their head, and by Christ there's plenty of them too. I'm not to judge whether or not he meant offence? But it seems like it.

Apparently he's a great lad for putting things on his head. It distracts from the absence of brains

[seafoid]

My tuppence worth on this ramshackle 'debate'.

If that's the calibre of elected politicians then I pity the people of West Tyrone. I've never seen clowns on fb putting a loaf of bread on their head, and by Christ there's plenty of them too. I'm not to judge whether or not he meant offence? But it seems like it.

Social media is ultra dangerous. Most people outside NI wouldn't have had a notion about Baz.
And as the head and shoulders  ad used to say you never get a second chance to make a first impression.

[tonto1888]

One thing this thread has thought me us that the DUP supporters unfortunately don't have a monopoly on whataboutery, ignorance and stupidity.

No comment on the involvement of FF councillor Sean McEniff in obstructing an investigation into the disappearance of a 6 year old girl?

Is that because you don't want to be drawn on having go through the list of mud FF have.

DUP aren't guilty of whataboutery, they are guilty of looking at a conflict through one lens, just like FF and FG.

Bomber, you have some fair points but this isn't the thread for them

[Il Bomber Destro]

I have little time for SF in the 26 and will have even less when the awful Marylou is crowned.
I know where they're coming from in the 6 and where their sidekicks the Provo IRA were coming from.
The lads who shot the Kingsmill workers certainly deserve to be called terrorists anyway.

Just read into why the Kingsmill incident happened. And identify those that died. That's all I'm saying.

That's part of the problem with looking back at the past. All incidents are related in one way or another. Dealing with each in isolation leads to a narrative that my victims are more important than your victims.

Then you have to ask about how much the british knew about every attack - they had quite a number of spies and agents working for them on both sides.

I remember in the 1970's, it seemed that each murder was bringing us closer and closer to outright civil war and only one more would tip us over the edge.

It's war, these were ordinary people doing things they would not do in the normal course of their lives.

What is more important to look at were those who could have intervened before things spiraled out of control but chose not to - The Free State and British Governments.

That defence wouldn't fly at the Hague

How did ye get away with Dunmanway so?

This is from someone who couldn't find his way to Dundonald never mind Dunmanway. Your friend got a three month suspension so he has plenty time to work on hisc comedy act for Britain's got talent

Can none of ye answer the question?

[Il Bomber Destro]

One thing this thread has thought me us that the DUP supporters unfortunately don't have a monopoly on whataboutery, ignorance and stupidity.

No comment on the involvement of FF councillor Sean McEniff in obstructing an investigation into the disappearance of a 6 year old girl?

Is that because you don't want to be drawn on having go through the list of mud FF have.

DUP aren't guilty of whataboutery, they are guilty of looking at a conflict through one lens, just like FF and FG.

Bomber, you have some fair points but this isn't the thread for them

It may not be but the people that are here with their mudballs would not be entering the appropriate thread for them so there's only one place to confront them - naturally they don't like it.