Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[Take Your Points]

What's the real situation:

McGuinness invites Trump to N.Ireland after his election win in November 2016

O'Neill states that any visit by Trump is no longer inappropriate

Adams says he will go to the White House on St Patrick's Day if invited.

All Gerry is concerned about is his ego at this stage, he doesent care how it looks

The money is made, the hay is in the barn

Surely its the boiler is in the empty barn.

[Avondhu star]

Things are evolving all the time. A border poll is not going to fly, but there is a possibility that discussion of one with some prospect of a substantial vote for unity might light a sufficient fire under the unionists that special treatment of NI within Brexit might seem the lesser of two evils. It is a very tricky situation politically. A good turnout of non unionist voters in March would help.

Special treatment for the North! The Spanish wont agree to that because then Gibraltar will want one. Its time the people in the Six Counties realise that their priorities and concerns are well down the list of Britain and the EU

[armaghniac]

The Spanish will have no particular objections to special treatment for NI, just as the Canary islands have.
The problem is the British.

[Take Your Points]

The Spanish will have no particular objections to special treatment for NI, just as the Canary islands have.
The problem is the British.

Correct.  The little Englander has pervaded throughout hence Brexit.  Immigration is the Englander issue.  Republic has a major card to play in how it intends to deal with immigration to UK.  RoI can threaten to allow complete free movement into Ireland by EU nationals and other migrants through all ports and airports knowing British control of over 250 border crossings is impossible even when they had 35,000 army and police. UK would have to move back to ports and airports in Scotland, England and Wales. The N.Ireland would effectively become a special case and apart from rest of UK.

[ashman]

Anybody voting for PBP need to look at their Brexit stance, for before and protest after. Ludicrous!

SF had a similar stance a long time but realised there is a political gravy train to be milked . PBP are a socialist party that see the EU and its institutions as part of global capitalist network .  PBP are a socialist party , SF are not .

[Hardy]

How do you milk a gravy train?

[seafoid]

How do you milk a gravy train?

It's forbidden under Jewish dietary laws to mix meat and dairy

[ashman]

How do you milk a gravy train?

The Irish political class can manage it.

[armaghniac]

The Spanish will have no particular objections to special treatment for NI, just as the Canary islands have.
The problem is the British.

Correct.  The little Englander has pervaded throughout hence Brexit.  Immigration is the Englander issue.  Republic has a major card to play in how it intends to deal with immigration to UK.  RoI can threaten to allow complete free movement into Ireland by EU nationals and other migrants through all ports and airports knowing British control of over 250 border crossings is impossible even when they had 35,000 army and police. UK would have to move back to ports and airports in Scotland, England and Wales. The N.Ireland would effectively become a special case and apart from rest of UK.

The Republic has free movement of EU nationals, there is no need to threaten that, having free movement of non EU nationals might just mean they end up in Ireland.  EU nationals will be able to visit Britain on tourist visas in any case and just stay on, but not work legally. Immigration is not the issue here, customs is. The special case needed is for NI to remain in the Single Market.

[Avondhu star]

The Spanish will have no particular objections to special treatment for NI, just as the Canary islands have.
The problem is the British.

Correct.  The little Englander has pervaded throughout hence Brexit.  Immigration is the Englander issue.  Republic has a major card to play in how it intends to deal with immigration to UK.  RoI can threaten to allow complete free movement into Ireland by EU nationals and other migrants through all ports and airports knowing British control of over 250 border crossings is impossible even when they had 35,000 army and police. UK would have to move back to ports and airports in Scotland, England and Wales. The N.Ireland would effectively become a special case and apart from rest of UK.

The Republic has free movement of EU nationals, there is no need to threaten that, having free movement of non EU nationals might just mean they end up in Ireland.  EU nationals will be able to visit Britain on tourist visas in any case and just stay on, but not work legally. Immigration is not the issue here, customs is. The special case needed is for NI to remain in the Single Market.

Why should NI get a special deal more than Scotland or other parts of Britain that voted against Brexit? It is well subsidised already by Westminster.

[armaghniac]

Why should NI get a special deal more than Scotland or other parts of Britain that voted against Brexit?

Geography. These places do not have a land border.

It is well subsidised already by Westminster.

A special deal is more likely to reduce the subsidy than increase it, as it would maintain real economic activity.

[Applesisapples]

Anybody voting for PBP need to look at their Brexit stance, for before and protest after. Ludicrous!

SF had a similar stance a long time but realised there is a political gravy train to be milked . PBP are a socialist party that see the EU and its institutions as part of global capitalist network .  PBP are a socialist party , SF are not .

and how does that explain their protests now against the very Brexit they espoused?

[ashman]

Anybody voting for PBP need to look at their Brexit stance, for before and protest after. Ludicrous!

SF had a similar stance a long time but realised there is a political gravy train to be milked . PBP are a socialist party that see the EU and its institutions as part of global capitalist network .  PBP are a socialist party , SF are not .

and how does that explain their protests now against the very Brexit they espoused?

They support the EU now and they are in the tent .  Also they are not socialists like PBP.

[Applesisapples]

Anybody voting for PBP need to look at their Brexit stance, for before and protest after. Ludicrous!

SF had a similar stance a long time but realised there is a political gravy train to be milked . PBP are a socialist party that see the EU and its institutions as part of global capitalist network .  PBP are a socialist party , SF are not .

and how does that explain their protests now against the very Brexit they espoused?

They support the EU now and they are in the tent .  Also they are not socialists like PBP.

I was asking the question about PBP

[lawnseed]

So where to now? The great oak is dead and buried. Ger has serious likeability issues especially with the unionists. If Arlene is the catalyst for getting out the republican vote. Gerry is the bogeyman who'll get the garden centre unionists out like a nice weather forecast. So what next can two women get on? Is Michelle seen as gers puppet does she lack the gravitoce to carry popular Sinn Fein support?