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muppet

Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?
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Ulick

Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?

Are you saying it was against the visit? If so show me the evidence?

Maguire01

Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?

Are you saying it was against the visit? If so show me the evidence?
Well the one on Tuesday was, according the an appropriate source:

THE FAMILIES of 11 nationalists killed by the British Army's Parachute Regiment in what is known as the Ballymurphy Massacre staged a protest at Belfast City Hall on Tuesday 19 May against the impending visit to the city of British royal Prince Charles, Colonel-in-Chief of the Paras.

http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/25002

And in interviews with those protesting on Radio Ulster, at least some were clearly against him visiting. Another source here:
John Teggart, whose father Danny was one of those killed in the massacre, criticised the Royal visit.

"The Ballymurphy massacre families totally oppose Prince Charles, the Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment, walking the streets of Belfast where the blood of innocent civilians has been shed by the regiment that he commands," he said.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/sf-mp-joins-ballymurphy-victims-families-at-city-hall-protest-1-6753097


So if Kelly and Maskey were not protesting against the visit, were they aware that those around them were? Or were the other protesters aware that Kelly and Maskey weren't opposed to the visit?

muppet

Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?

Are you saying it was against the visit? If so show me the evidence?

That wasn't me. I said you had the floor and could give a reasonable explanation. You refused.

But you did call it a protest as highlighted above.

So what were they protesting about?
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foxcommander

Quote from: Maguire01 on May 22, 2015, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?

Are you saying it was against the visit? If so show me the evidence?
Well the one on Tuesday was, according the an appropriate source:

THE FAMILIES of 11 nationalists killed by the British Army's Parachute Regiment in what is known as the Ballymurphy Massacre staged a protest at Belfast City Hall on Tuesday 19 May against the impending visit to the city of British royal Prince Charles, Colonel-in-Chief of the Paras.

http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/25002

And in interviews with those protesting on Radio Ulster, at least some were clearly against him visiting. Another source here:
John Teggart, whose father Danny was one of those killed in the massacre, criticised the Royal visit.

"The Ballymurphy massacre families totally oppose Prince Charles, the Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment, walking the streets of Belfast where the blood of innocent civilians has been shed by the regiment that he commands," he said.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/sf-mp-joins-ballymurphy-victims-families-at-city-hall-protest-1-6753097


So if Kelly and Maskey were not protesting against the visit, were they aware that those around them were? Or were the other protesters aware that Kelly and Maskey weren't opposed to the visit?

I didn't know you subscribed to An Phoblacht.
Won't be a stoop for much longer  ;D
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Ulick

Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 05:46:46 PM

That wasn't me. I said you had the floor and could give a reasonable explanation. You refused.

But you did call it a protest as highlighted above.

So what were they protesting about?

Because they have been denied an investigation into the killing of their relations.

Maguire01

Quote from: foxcommander on May 22, 2015, 05:54:10 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 22, 2015, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?

Are you saying it was against the visit? If so show me the evidence?
Well the one on Tuesday was, according the an appropriate source:

THE FAMILIES of 11 nationalists killed by the British Army's Parachute Regiment in what is known as the Ballymurphy Massacre staged a protest at Belfast City Hall on Tuesday 19 May against the impending visit to the city of British royal Prince Charles, Colonel-in-Chief of the Paras.

http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/25002

And in interviews with those protesting on Radio Ulster, at least some were clearly against him visiting. Another source here:
John Teggart, whose father Danny was one of those killed in the massacre, criticised the Royal visit.

"The Ballymurphy massacre families totally oppose Prince Charles, the Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment, walking the streets of Belfast where the blood of innocent civilians has been shed by the regiment that he commands," he said.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/sf-mp-joins-ballymurphy-victims-families-at-city-hall-protest-1-6753097


So if Kelly and Maskey were not protesting against the visit, were they aware that those around them were? Or were the other protesters aware that Kelly and Maskey weren't opposed to the visit?

I didn't know you subscribed to An Phoblacht.
Won't be a stoop for much longer  ;D
Firstly, i'm not a 'stoop'. Secondly, the article appeared on a Google search.

Ulick

Quote from: Maguire01 on May 22, 2015, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?

Are you saying it was against the visit? If so show me the evidence?
Well the one on Tuesday was, according the an appropriate source:

THE FAMILIES of 11 nationalists killed by the British Army's Parachute Regiment in what is known as the Ballymurphy Massacre staged a protest at Belfast City Hall on Tuesday 19 May against the impending visit to the city of British royal Prince Charles, Colonel-in-Chief of the Paras.

http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/25002

And in interviews with those protesting on Radio Ulster, at least some were clearly against him visiting. Another source here:
John Teggart, whose father Danny was one of those killed in the massacre, criticised the Royal visit.

"The Ballymurphy massacre families totally oppose Prince Charles, the Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment, walking the streets of Belfast where the blood of innocent civilians has been shed by the regiment that he commands," he said.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/sf-mp-joins-ballymurphy-victims-families-at-city-hall-protest-1-6753097


So if Kelly and Maskey were not protesting against the visit, were they aware that those around them were? Or were the other protesters aware that Kelly and Maskey weren't opposed to the visit?

Kelly and Maskey have supported demand for a fresh inquiry from the beginning. Their presence was nothing more than further reflection of that. Trying to twist into something else is just bollocks.

Minder

I'm not sure SF supported can use the term "stoop" anymore.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Maguire01

Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 22, 2015, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?

Are you saying it was against the visit? If so show me the evidence?
Well the one on Tuesday was, according the an appropriate source:

THE FAMILIES of 11 nationalists killed by the British Army's Parachute Regiment in what is known as the Ballymurphy Massacre staged a protest at Belfast City Hall on Tuesday 19 May against the impending visit to the city of British royal Prince Charles, Colonel-in-Chief of the Paras.

http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/25002

And in interviews with those protesting on Radio Ulster, at least some were clearly against him visiting. Another source here:
John Teggart, whose father Danny was one of those killed in the massacre, criticised the Royal visit.

"The Ballymurphy massacre families totally oppose Prince Charles, the Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment, walking the streets of Belfast where the blood of innocent civilians has been shed by the regiment that he commands," he said.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/sf-mp-joins-ballymurphy-victims-families-at-city-hall-protest-1-6753097


So if Kelly and Maskey were not protesting against the visit, were they aware that those around them were? Or were the other protesters aware that Kelly and Maskey weren't opposed to the visit?

Kelly and Maskey have supported demand for a fresh inquiry from the beginning. Their presence was nothing more than further reflection of that. Trying to twist into something else is just bollocks.
I never claimed they didn't or don't support a fresh inquiry, but i've provided a couple of sources that show this was a protest against the visit. Maybe they should have made clear to the other protesters that they actually welcomed the visit.

muppet

Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 22, 2015, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 22, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
That would be a no then.

Read the article posted above. The protest was not about the visit rather they wanted him to "acknowledge the hurt". The Ballymurphy families are attempting to get an investigation into the killings. They're not about protesting Royal visits. Though if you have evidence that they, Kelly and Maskey were protesting against the visit then you could produce it easily enough?

So the protest was in support of his visit?

Are you saying it was against the visit? If so show me the evidence?
Well the one on Tuesday was, according the an appropriate source:

THE FAMILIES of 11 nationalists killed by the British Army's Parachute Regiment in what is known as the Ballymurphy Massacre staged a protest at Belfast City Hall on Tuesday 19 May against the impending visit to the city of British royal Prince Charles, Colonel-in-Chief of the Paras.

http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/25002

And in interviews with those protesting on Radio Ulster, at least some were clearly against him visiting. Another source here:
John Teggart, whose father Danny was one of those killed in the massacre, criticised the Royal visit.

"The Ballymurphy massacre families totally oppose Prince Charles, the Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment, walking the streets of Belfast where the blood of innocent civilians has been shed by the regiment that he commands," he said.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/sf-mp-joins-ballymurphy-victims-families-at-city-hall-protest-1-6753097


So if Kelly and Maskey were not protesting against the visit, were they aware that those around them were? Or were the other protesters aware that Kelly and Maskey weren't opposed to the visit?

Kelly and Maskey have supported demand for a fresh inquiry from the beginning. Their presence was nothing more than further reflection of that. Trying to twist into something else is just bollocks.

You used the word protest yourself.

The protest was where Charlie was.

Was Charlie's presence a coincidence or was the protest linked to him in some way?
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charlieTully

Can you all stop referring to the man as Charlie, his name is Charles.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: charlieTully on May 22, 2015, 10:47:40 PM
Can you all stop referring to the man as Charlie, his name is Charles.

What's his surname though? Windsor or Saxe-Coburg (spelling may be incorrect)
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Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
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macdanger2

Dessie Ellis on R1 this morning and got his arse handed to him. I've never heard him before but you'd have thought SF would have better speakers than this fella.