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Applesisapples

Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
What would have been really funny only it was true was when Peter Robinson 'visited' West Belfast and he declared smugly it a 'really really positive thing for West Belfast and hopefully it'll bring loads and loads of jobs to the area' and then the very next day, RIAS axed hundreds of jobs in the area and then he was interviewed saying 'we will sit down with them and try really really hard to get something sorted'. Invest NI in the same news piece absolved RIAS of any obligation stating that they fully met their contractual commitments and when this was put to him he said ' well we will sit down and see what we can do'. If him going in as MP wasn't taking the people of West Belfast's votes for granted then i dont know what is. SF in West Belfast are a disaster. It has remained the most deprived electoral ward with the most health problems in the North during Gerry Adams' tenure and during Paul 'I'm trying really really hard' Maskey's tenure too. Disaster but sure lift him up shoulder high and stick a tricolour around him when he is re-elected and it'll maintain the facade.

I'd love to see Spotlight carry out an investigation into the community sector in West Belfast and expose the amount of  community funding being wasted by employing SF in fake community roles.

Electorally they will do well because they are an electoral machine and they will be exposed in the south for their phoniness. Easy to stick Pearse O'Doherty and Eoin O'Broin in front of a camera and shout socialism but in the North, they hide people like that away and attack the characters of other people like them who are in different parties like Gerry Carrol and Eamonn McCann.

Hypocritical unashamed predatorial busllying fascists.

Beginning to sound like you are a trolling stoop!

johnneycool

Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
What would have been really funny only it was true was when Peter Robinson 'visited' West Belfast and he declared smugly it a 'really really positive thing for West Belfast and hopefully it'll bring loads and loads of jobs to the area' and then the very next day, RIAS axed hundreds of jobs in the area and then he was interviewed saying 'we will sit down with them and try really really hard to get something sorted'. Invest NI in the same news piece absolved RIAS of any obligation stating that they fully met their contractual commitments and when this was put to him he said ' well we will sit down and see what we can do'. If him going in as MP wasn't taking the people of West Belfast's votes for granted then i dont know what is. SF in West Belfast are a disaster. It has remained the most deprived electoral ward with the most health problems in the North during Gerry Adams' tenure and during Paul 'I'm trying really really hard' Maskey's tenure too. Disaster but sure lift him up shoulder high and stick a tricolour around him when he is re-elected and it'll maintain the facade.

I'd love to see Spotlight carry out an investigation into the community sector in West Belfast and expose the amount of  community funding being wasted by employing SF in fake community roles.

Electorally they will do well because they are an electoral machine and they will be exposed in the south for their phoniness. Easy to stick Pearse O'Doherty and Eoin O'Broin in front of a camera and shout socialism but in the North, they hide people like that away and attack the characters of other people like them who are in different parties like Gerry Carrol and Eamonn McCann.

Hypocritical unashamed predatorial busllying fascists.

I have to say on my last trip down the Falls that did catch my eye in wonderment as in WTF were they all about.


ojonathanrossa

Quote from: Applesisapples on April 15, 2015, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
What would have been really funny only it was true was when Peter Robinson 'visited' West Belfast and he declared smugly it a 'really really positive thing for West Belfast and hopefully it'll bring loads and loads of jobs to the area' and then the very next day, RIAS axed hundreds of jobs in the area and then he was interviewed saying 'we will sit down with them and try really really hard to get something sorted'. Invest NI in the same news piece absolved RIAS of any obligation stating that they fully met their contractual commitments and when this was put to him he said ' well we will sit down and see what we can do'. If him going in as MP wasn't taking the people of West Belfast's votes for granted then i dont know what is. SF in West Belfast are a disaster. It has remained the most deprived electoral ward with the most health problems in the North during Gerry Adams' tenure and during Paul 'I'm trying really really hard' Maskey's tenure too. Disaster but sure lift him up shoulder high and stick a tricolour around him when he is re-elected and it'll maintain the facade.

I'd love to see Spotlight carry out an investigation into the community sector in West Belfast and expose the amount of  community funding being wasted by employing SF in fake community roles.

Electorally they will do well because they are an electoral machine and they will be exposed in the south for their phoniness. Easy to stick Pearse O'Doherty and Eoin O'Broin in front of a camera and shout socialism but in the North, they hide people like that away and attack the characters of other people like them who are in different parties like Gerry Carrol and Eamonn McCann.

Hypocritical unashamed predatorial busllying fascists.

Beginning to sound like you are a trolling stoop!

Definitely not. I'm a republican.

Why throw out such a suggestion? Wouldn't you prefer to debate what I actually wrote or in true shinner style, would you rather play the man?

Maguire01

Quote from: heffo on April 15, 2015, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 14, 2015, 10:09:53 PM
Mary Lou didn't come across too well on Matt Cooper this evening in relation to her comments on the Ansbacher accounts.

What did she say?
Wouldn't name names on air as she did under Dail privilege. Didn't have any evidence to pin anything on the individuals she named in the Dail. Refused to apologise for naming people with no grounds for doing so. Maintained she was right in all she did.

Minder

Quote from: johnneycool on April 15, 2015, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
What would have been really funny only it was true was when Peter Robinson 'visited' West Belfast and he declared smugly it a 'really really positive thing for West Belfast and hopefully it'll bring loads and loads of jobs to the area' and then the very next day, RIAS axed hundreds of jobs in the area and then he was interviewed saying 'we will sit down with them and try really really hard to get something sorted'. Invest NI in the same news piece absolved RIAS of any obligation stating that they fully met their contractual commitments and when this was put to him he said ' well we will sit down and see what we can do'. If him going in as MP wasn't taking the people of West Belfast's votes for granted then i dont know what is. SF in West Belfast are a disaster. It has remained the most deprived electoral ward with the most health problems in the North during Gerry Adams' tenure and during Paul 'I'm trying really really hard' Maskey's tenure too. Disaster but sure lift him up shoulder high and stick a tricolour around him when he is re-elected and it'll maintain the facade.

I'd love to see Spotlight carry out an investigation into the community sector in West Belfast and expose the amount of  community funding being wasted by employing SF in fake community roles.

Electorally they will do well because they are an electoral machine and they will be exposed in the south for their phoniness. Easy to stick Pearse O'Doherty and Eoin O'Broin in front of a camera and shout socialism but in the North, they hide people like that away and attack the characters of other people like them who are in different parties like Gerry Carrol and Eamonn McCann.

Hypocritical unashamed predatorial busllying fascists.

I have to say on my last trip down the Falls that did catch my eye in wonderment as in WTF were they all about.

It's basically jobs as a reward for SF family members, party "activists" etc. Keeps them loyal I suppose.

99% of them doing fck all of any worth.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Minder on April 15, 2015, 09:44:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 15, 2015, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
What would have been really funny only it was true was when Peter Robinson 'visited' West Belfast and he declared smugly it a 'really really positive thing for West Belfast and hopefully it'll bring loads and loads of jobs to the area' and then the very next day, RIAS axed hundreds of jobs in the area and then he was interviewed saying 'we will sit down with them and try really really hard to get something sorted'. Invest NI in the same news piece absolved RIAS of any obligation stating that they fully met their contractual commitments and when this was put to him he said ' well we will sit down and see what we can do'. If him going in as MP wasn't taking the people of West Belfast's votes for granted then i dont know what is. SF in West Belfast are a disaster. It has remained the most deprived electoral ward with the most health problems in the North during Gerry Adams' tenure and during Paul 'I'm trying really really hard' Maskey's tenure too. Disaster but sure lift him up shoulder high and stick a tricolour around him when he is re-elected and it'll maintain the facade.

I'd love to see Spotlight carry out an investigation into the community sector in West Belfast and expose the amount of  community funding being wasted by employing SF in fake community roles.

Electorally they will do well because they are an electoral machine and they will be exposed in the south for their phoniness. Easy to stick Pearse O'Doherty and Eoin O'Broin in front of a camera and shout socialism but in the North, they hide people like that away and attack the characters of other people like them who are in different parties like Gerry Carrol and Eamonn McCann.

Hypocritical unashamed predatorial busllying fascists.

I have to say on my last trip down the Falls that did catch my eye in wonderment as in WTF were they all about.

It's basically jobs as a reward for SF family members, party "activists" etc. Keeps them loyal I suppose.

99% of them doing fck all of any worth.
That's par for the course up there - mostly on north east coast!

Sure the environment is set by that mindset.

Look at the tv ads

The titanic centre - best tourist attraction in Ireland

Best cuisine is the Ulster fry ( irish plus wretched soda bread)

Best and most vibrant city is belfast ( siht hole)

It's rampant around there. Can't see beyond their own area, facilities and also people

Nepotism is an irish habit, but it's taken to another level by sf and pretty much everyone across the board in the self publicizing north east utopia !!
..........

general_lee

Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 08:21:00 AM
I live in the West Belfast constituency and traditionally I vote SF but by fcuk they have no chance of getting my vote this time around. Gerry Carroll from PBP will be getting it. 

SF carrying out austerity and then calling them 'the Tory Cuts'. Dont see much Shinners falling victim to austerity between Stormont or community jobs

Plus, Gerry Adams was a sh.ite MP but I cringe every time I hear Paul Maskey speaking on the radio and on TV. Apparently he always tries 'really really really hard to get things done'. They are FF minus 50 years.

But anyway PBP are the only people i have heard with a complete anti-austerity voice and have heard onky positive messages.  I have already heard the shinners starting to bash him and his character. Typical bullying fascists.
If I lived in West Belfast I would vote Gerry Carroll. However where I live I can choose from an array of Unionists, the SDLP or SF. SF get it because they are the best of a bad bunch. If the Greens or someone like PBP were standing they'd get my vote. I don't hide the fact I have voted SF in the past or that I will probably continue to do so in the future. I know it makes me come across as one of the sheeple but I will be the first to acknowledge SF's various flaws and their inability to address them properly. However on ideology alone they will continue to get my vote. No other party comes close.

ojonathanrossa

#3232
BBC Constituency Profile for West Belfast. Facts are Facts and SF are s.hit!

Constituency profile

This constituency has the highest proportion of Catholics (80%) of any Northern Ireland seat. The Royal Victoria Hospital is one of the area's biggest employers. The economy is boosted through tourism, based around the Troubles.
In 2013, there was an estimated population of 94,000. It is the most deprived constituency in Northern Ireland. Welfare reform is a big issue and one in five residents are in receipt of at least one disability-related benefit. Residents here have a lower life expectancy than any other part of Northern Ireland.
Since 1966, this seat has been held by nationalist MPs. Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams took the seat from the SDLP's Gerry Fitt in 1983. He lost it in 1992 to the SDLP's Joe Hendron, only to regain it five years later. After Mr Adams resigned to become a member of the Republic of Ireland's parliament, Paul Maskey of Sinn Féin took the seat in 2011.

Applesisapples

Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 15, 2015, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
What would have been really funny only it was true was when Peter Robinson 'visited' West Belfast and he declared smugly it a 'really really positive thing for West Belfast and hopefully it'll bring loads and loads of jobs to the area' and then the very next day, RIAS axed hundreds of jobs in the area and then he was interviewed saying 'we will sit down with them and try really really hard to get something sorted'. Invest NI in the same news piece absolved RIAS of any obligation stating that they fully met their contractual commitments and when this was put to him he said ' well we will sit down and see what we can do'. If him going in as MP wasn't taking the people of West Belfast's votes for granted then i dont know what is. SF in West Belfast are a disaster. It has remained the most deprived electoral ward with the most health problems in the North during Gerry Adams' tenure and during Paul 'I'm trying really really hard' Maskey's tenure too. Disaster but sure lift him up shoulder high and stick a tricolour around him when he is re-elected and it'll maintain the facade.

I'd love to see Spotlight carry out an investigation into the community sector in West Belfast and expose the amount of  community funding being wasted by employing SF in fake community roles.

Electorally they will do well because they are an electoral machine and they will be exposed in the south for their phoniness. Easy to stick Pearse O'Doherty and Eoin O'Broin in front of a camera and shout socialism but in the North, they hide people like that away and attack the characters of other people like them who are in different parties like Gerry Carrol and Eamonn McCann.

Hypocritical unashamed predatorial busllying fascists.

Beginning to sound like you are a trolling stoop!

Definitely not. I'm a republican.

Why throw out such a suggestion? Wouldn't you prefer to debate what I actually wrote or in true shinner style, would you rather play the man?
If you read my posts you will see that I am equally critical of both the Stoops and the Shinners, I don't like a lot of what the current SF leadership do but your criticism seems to me to be some what over the top, just my opinion.

Applesisapples

The infrastructural problems of nationalist areas like West Belfast, Newry, Strabane etc are a hangover from the old one party state. Thanks in the main to John Hume Derry was thrown a few sops. Nationalist's have found it hard to shift the old mores within an NI civil service that keeps pushing funding in the same direction. It will take time. unfortunately many nationalist areas have a benefits culture where scamming the state is fair game, this needs to be tackled as well. With benefits up to £26K available it will take time and welfare reform. Generations in nationalist areas have lost the tradition of work as a means to earn a crust. Nationalist political parties seem afraid to tackle this old elephant as it sits in the corner of the room.

Jeepers Creepers

An believe it or not, there are people who think by fraudulently claiming benefits that they are string a blow to the British establishment!?

johnneycool

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 16, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
An believe it or not, there are people who think by fraudulently claiming benefits that they are string a blow to the British establishment!?

Well it certainly isn't discouraged by our political classes who are leading the way on how to suck the tax payer dry by fair means or foul.


deiseach

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 16, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
An believe it or not, there are people who think by fraudulently claiming benefits that they are string a blow to the British establishment!?

I'd find it unbelievable that anyone would find what you say to be unbelievable.

deiseach

Speaking of striking a blow to the British establishment, would any of ye have memories of being told how to deal with agents of said establishment, such as peelers? Flick the bird at them at every opportunity? Don't ever give them a reason to claim that they thought you were going for a gun?

Keyser soze

Burn everything British...... except their coal.... was the slogan of the day afair