Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[Keyser soze]

No, Jean McConville is no less important than Pat Finucane or Rosemary Nelson in my eyes.

The latter two though are clearly much less important in the eyes of the quisling commentators who have never given them a thought except to bring them up to use as political pawns to justify their McConville campaign. Despicable.

Can you clowns stop pretending you know anything about what went on here during the troubles as you clearly have no conception of what the situation was. You're embarassing yourselves.

[heffo]

Can you clowns stop pretending you know anything about what went on here during the troubles as you clearly have no conception of what the situation was. You're embarassing yourselves.

Personally I'd like to know a little more about the situation (especially incidents like Jean McConville) before I vote for the same people into Government down here.

Otherwise they can stay up there AFAIC

[Keyser soze]

Can you clowns stop pretending you know anything about what went on here during the troubles as you clearly have no conception of what the situation was. You're embarassing yourselves.

Personally I'd like to know a little more about the situation (especially incidents like Jean McConville) before I vote for the same people into Government down here.

Otherwise they can stay up there AFAIC

Can I ask why especially this case?

Is she more important than any of the dozens of other 'informers' the Provos shot? And werent many of these people shot in the wrong because the people doing the shooting were special branch agents? So actually it's the brits who were responsible, not the IRA. Or Sinn Fein.

[lynchbhoy]

Can you clowns stop pretending you know anything about what went on here during the troubles as you clearly have no conception of what the situation was. You're embarassing yourselves.

Personally I'd like to know a little more about the situation (especially incidents like Jean McConville) before I vote for the same people into Government down here.

Otherwise they can stay up there AFAIC

the same people?
are you thinking about it at all?
the IRA are not the same as sf.

sf in the north are not the same as sf in the south - imo , no matter how hard sf try to say they are.

[deiseach]

It's impossible to resist all this low-hanging fruit. Here we are, being lectured on the geographical impossibility of understanding politics on our own island from a political movement that makes common cause with people in places as diverse as Iberia and the Levant

[charlieTully]

It's impossible to resist all this low-hanging fruit. Here we are, being lectured on the geographical impossibility of understanding politics on our own island from a political movement that makes common cause with people in places as diverse as Iberia and the Levant

you can never escape the fact that the majority of people in the so called free state sat back and done nothing whilst their people were being burnt out of their homes and shot dead and interned in their thousands. unforgivable really.

[Keyser soze]

It's impossible to resist all this low-hanging fruit. Here we are, being lectured on the geographical impossibility of understanding politics on our own island from a political movement that makes common cause with people in places as diverse as Iberia and the Levant

You'd be better be careful. With sophistry like this Sinn Fein will be trying to recruit you.

I'm not a Sinn Fein member or supporter though Ive voted for them in the past. The fact that I can appreciate their duplicity shouldn't and won't stop me pointing out the dual standards of others.

[Shamrock Shore]

you can never escape the fact that the majority of people in the so called free state sat back and done nothing whilst their people were being burnt out of their homes and shot dead and interned in their thousands. unforgivable really.

Sorry Charlie - what could I have done in 1972 as a 5 year old. Strongly worded letter to the English papers? March on the north with a toy gun?

Or are we talking 1922, 1982 or when exactly?

[foxcommander]

It's impossible to resist all this low-hanging fruit. Here we are, being lectured on the geographical impossibility of understanding politics on our own island from a political movement that makes common cause with people in places as diverse as Iberia and the Levant

Fair enough. Your 3rd hand knowledge on the subject makes you an expert.

[foxcommander]

Christ's sake, the more I think about it . . . will the Shinner need to gloss over the IRA's atrocities now mean that the victims of Bloody Sunday and Aidan McAnespie and Pat Finucane and Rosemary Nelson and Majella O'Hare and God knows how many others will have to be written off as casualties of war? Screw you, Shinner scum, and the horse you rode in on.

I love how free staters give lessons on the north...it's amazing what they seem to learn by watching a couple of Prime Time documentaries.

And I love how lads like yourself give us lessons in how to run the country, or should I say the Free State. Sauce for the goose and all that.

Bailouts, poverty, unemployment, mass emigration. Fine job you're doing there...

[AZOffaly]

Yup, and if the British government weren't employing everyone up there, I'm sure ye'd be a paragon of self sufficiency.

[Rossfan]

Mary Lou in bother over abusing Dail privilege I see.

[foxcommander]

Mary Lou in bother over abusing Sail privilege I see.

I didn't know she owned a yacht.

[trileacman]

Going back to the issue at hand before it was side-tracked I don't have a major problem with someone exposing the opinion that McConvilles death is something that happens in war, like Lynchboy or Hardstation. I'd disagree with them but at least their honest and consistent in their opinion.

My problem is with Adams dismissing the McConville affair as same but is then happy to turn around and play the victim card when it suits the Shinners. A few month's ago he gladly reminded all of us what a heartless bitch Thatcher was for all that she was involved in. The "shit that happens in war" excuse wasn't extended to her. Also the Shinners are happy enough to parade about at hunger striker commemorations, name playparks after volunteers and build a museum at long kesh. But mention something like jean mc conville, gerry mc cabe or other members of the disappeared and it's nothing but "stop living in the past/it was 30 years ago/we've moved on with peace".

In short I wouldn't have issue with Adams opinion, Belfast of the 70's was a difficult place to live and defend your existence, it's the pungent hypocrisy that exists since. Telling you they're die-hard republicans whilst administrating British Rule in the North (conveniently being paid to do it by the crown), telling you that they're socialist and working-class and anti-austerity whilst facilitating decimating cuts to the NI departments of health and agriculture on the whim of a Tory government. Baying for blood at the financial irregularities of any politician who strays outside the rules but standing brazenly behind a SF minister still in power, who paid her brother in law 11k to paint her fcking office.

No my problem is with someone who lived their life by a distinctly arbitrary moral code, turning round and telling you what's right and what's wrong with the world today.

[Tony Baloney]

Good post trileacman. Unfortunately the voting public don't seem to mind the double standards.