Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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omaghjoe

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on November 21, 2014, 01:11:09 AM
Eventuallly, according to the polls, Sinn Fein will become the main party in the south but nobody trusts them at the moment. They still have too much baggage.

Weirdly enough no one trusts them in the North either and I mean people that vote for them.

Its quite a strange state of affairs really, the majority of Sinn Fein supporters wouldn't want to be associated with them in the slightest because of their baggage, they just see that a vote for them is the best way of sticking it to the prods and brits.

johnneycool

Quote from: omaghjoe on November 21, 2014, 04:59:57 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on November 21, 2014, 01:11:09 AM
Eventuallly, according to the polls, Sinn Fein will become the main party in the south but nobody trusts them at the moment. They still have too much baggage.

Weirdly enough no one trusts them in the North either and I mean people that vote for them.

Its quite a strange state of affairs really, the majority of Sinn Fein supporters wouldn't want to be associated with them in the slightest because of their baggage, they just see that a vote for them is the best way of sticking it to the prods and brits.

Or that the other options are self serving, pathetic gobshites in both 'parliaments'.

Did some FG TD not say yesterday that some water charge protestors were as bad as ISIS FFS?


Tubberman

Quote from: johnneycool on November 21, 2014, 09:38:37 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on November 21, 2014, 04:59:57 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on November 21, 2014, 01:11:09 AM
Eventuallly, according to the polls, Sinn Fein will become the main party in the south but nobody trusts them at the moment. They still have too much baggage.

Weirdly enough no one trusts them in the North either and I mean people that vote for them.

Its quite a strange state of affairs really, the majority of Sinn Fein supporters wouldn't want to be associated with them in the slightest because of their baggage, they just see that a vote for them is the best way of sticking it to the prods and brits.

Or that the other options are self serving, pathetic gobshites in both 'parliaments'.

Did some FG TD not say yesterday that some water charge protestors were as bad as ISIS FFS?



Ah yeah, but he is from Tipp.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Saffrongael

 ;)

An Phoblacht - 5 September 2013


SINN FÉIN'S Chief Whip in the Assembly has called for tighter control of payments to and by politicians, party funding and donations to parties, and the employment of relatives by elected reps.

CaitríonaRuane
The call by Caitríona Ruane MLA (left) comes in the wake of the shock resignation on Wednesday evening of SDLP MLA Conall McDevitt over a £6,750 payment he received in 2010 from PR company Weber Shandwick without declaring it.

Conall McDevitt – who unsuccessfully challenged Alasdair McDonnell for the SDLP leadership in 2011 but was still regarded as one of the SDLP's high-flyers and a possible future leader – himself described the non-declaration as "a serious breach" of the MLA code.

"My failure to register these interests at the time means that I have fallen below the standards of expected of me in public office," the SDLP figure said, resigning "with immediate effect".

His resignation comes after revelations that a company owned by his wife had received thousands of pounds over the past two years for research working for him in his roles in the Assembly and the Policing Board.

Sinn Féin Chief Whip Caitríona Ruane MLA said on Thursday:

"Elected representatives have a duty to maintain high standards in carrying out their roles and responsibilities.   

"There is a clear need for increased transparency right across the political spectrum with respect to payments to and by politicians, and party funding in general, including donations to parties.   

"Anything less undermines trust in the political process and the credibility of the political institutions.

"The use of public funds by MLAs to employ family members or commission services from companies in which they or family members have an interest is unacceptable and should cease.

"If parties or individual MLAs are not prepared to abide by the correct standards then the rules which govern party financing should be strengthened to make it mandatory that they do so.

"And the rules on transparency should also be amended to require parties to declare who party donors are. There should be no secret donations.

"A refusal by some within the political process to adhere to proper standards tarnishes the entire political process and feeds mistrust.

"We need to confront this refusal if we are to restore and protect the integrity of the political process."

Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Rossfan

Quote from: Tubberman on November 21, 2014, 09:52:10 AM
Did some FG TD not say yesterday that some water charge protestors were as bad as ISIS FFS?



Ah yeah, but he is from Tipp.
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As another Tipp TD said " Sure everyone knows ya drive better after a few pints"!
I see SF were upsetting the "can coal yer" in the Dáil again today.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

orangeman

Gerry threatened again by the loyalists according to his Twitter.

And the war is supposed to be over. Have they no respect at all ?.

Rossfan

Are all the SF supporters shocked into silence over the impending cuts in the North(East) or what?  :o
Not a mention of the latest two polls putting them up there at the top of the pile in the 26 Cos.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Kidder81

Shinners no different to the rest of them

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/sinn-fein-expenses-row-caral-ni-chuilin-forgot-to-say-she-paid-relative-11320-30855261.html

BY CIARAN BARNES – 22 DECEMBER 2014

Culture Minister Caral Ni Chuilin paid her partner's brother thousands of pounds of taxpayers' cash for decorating her office - but repeatedly failed to declare the relationship in Stormont's register of interests.

Sunday Life can reveal that since 2009, the Sinn Fein heavyweight has handed over £11,320 from her office cost expenditure budget to John 'JJ' Magee to decorate her north Belfast office.

Following Sunday Life's revelation, Sinn Fein last night issued a statement saying the minister's failure to declare the family link was an "administrative oversight".

Magee, a joiner by trade who is also a serving Sinn Fein councillor, also received more than £55,000 of taxpayers' cash from other Sinn Fein MLAs for similar work.

He is the brother of Mrs Ni Chuilin's common-law husband Gerard Magee, a Sinn Fein press officer.

But she repeatedly failed to declare this on the Assembly's Register of Interests which state that any relationship by "blood, marriage, or partnership equivalent to marriage" has to be noted.

Section 12 of the register states: "In this section Members should register any family members who benefit directly or indirectly in any way from Office Cost Expenditure."

Her Sinn Fein colleague Fra McCann for example declared on the register than he employed a niece of party colleagues Paul and Alex Maskey as his PA.

However, Culture Minister Caral Ni Chuilin answered "none" on several occasions when asked to list family members who benefit directly or indirectly in any way from her office cost expenditure.

In response to Sunday Life's questions about her failure to say her partner's brother benefited from her office expenditure, Sinn Fein said last night: "This was an administration oversight and one that will be rectified.

"The party has declared publicly that a range of necessary maintenance and refurbishment work on Teach Carney and other Sinn Féin offices has been carried out by JJ Magee and by his construction company over many years.


"The work carried out was to a high standard and represented good value for money and has facilitated Sinn Féin in providing first-class accessible constituency services."

A Sunday Life investigation into JJ Magee's Assembly business contracts show that not only was he paid £11,320 by Caral Ni Chuilin, he pocketed a total of £68,000 of public funds from Sinn Fein over five years.

When we attempted to question the Belfast city councillor about this he told us to "ring the press office" before hanging up the phone.

For the past five years building firm boss JJ Magee has been Sinn Fein's go-to man when it needs construction jobs done at its offices across Belfast.

In 2011 he unsuccessfully stood for election to the Assembly as a Sinn Fein candidate in north Belfast.

But despite failing to make it to Stormont a busy Magee still reaped £68,000 of public funds paid to him by the party.

Sinn Fein's first recorded payment to the joiner-turned politician was in 2009.

That was when Caral Ni Chuilin, who is effectively his sister-in-law, coughed up £5,080 for decorating work at her Antrim Road office.

In 2011 five Sinn Fein MLAs - Paul Maskey, Jennifer McCann, Sue Ramsey, Pat Sheehan and Paul Butler - paid JJ Magee a total of £27,775 for renovations and maintenance.

He was raking it in again during 2012, receiving £15,750 from Gerry Kelly (left), Caral Ni Chuilin, Jennifer McCann and Sue Ramsey for painting and cleaning.

In 2013 Gerry Kelly, Caral Ni Chuilin, Fra McCann, Jennifer McCann, Sue Ramsey and Pat Sheehan paid Magee £11,176 for similar work.

So far this year he has pocketed a further £8,153 from Fra McCann, Rosie McCorley, Pat Sheehan and Sue Ramsey for painting and electrical work.

All of the 31 registered Assembly payments to Magee, which cover five years, were made in the five week period between March 27 and May 1.

Since 2009 he has received £16,560 solely for work carried out at Sinn Fein's north Belfast office at 291 Antrim Road. The two-storey town house is used by both Caral Ni Chuilin and Gerry Kelly.

Sunday Life's revelations about Caral Ni Chuilin's failure to declare she was employing a family member to do work, is the latest expenses controversy to engulf Sinn Fein of late.

Last month BBC's Spotlight programme revealed that the party had paid a research company run by its own finance managers, called Research Services Ireland (RSI), £700,000 of public funds.

One Sinn Féin MLA was reported to have said they had never heard of the company until they saw it on their annual expenses.

It further emerged that Sinn Fein was claiming thousands of pounds in office rent costs on buildings owned by three different cultural societies to which the party has strong links.


orangeman


orangeman

Thank God. A settlement has been reached and the money tap has been turned back on. Happy Christmas and a very prosperous New Year to all.

Kidder81

Quote from: orangeman on December 23, 2014, 03:20:50 PM
Thank God. A settlement has been reached and the money tap has been turned back on. Happy Christmas and a very prosperous New Year to all.

Aye money tap in the form of loans that have to be paid back ?

orangeman

Quote from: Kidder81 on December 23, 2014, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: orangeman on December 23, 2014, 03:20:50 PM
Thank God. A settlement has been reached and the money tap has been turned back on. Happy Christmas and a very prosperous New Year to all.

Aye money tap in the form of loans that have to be paid back ?

We'll pay the first few payments and then review the loan conditions thereafter.   ;)

deiseach

What a relief, those constituency offices won't refurbish themselves!

Kidder81

Plenty of quangos and commissions, all the SF/DUP mates will be getting a nice wee gig on those

Myles Na G.

Enough of an agreement to ensure the politicians continue in the manner to which they have become accustomed, nothing of substance on parades, flags and the past. A committee here, a quango there, reports due back sometime in the far blue yonder. Twaddell probably wasn't even mentioned.