Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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glens abu

Quote from: give her dixie on May 11, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
Quote from: glens abu on May 10, 2014, 12:01:27 AM
Quote from: give her dixie on May 09, 2014, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: glens abu on May 09, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on May 09, 2014, 11:00:36 PM
Glens, I never said I disagreed with McGuinness, I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy in Sinn Feins position in the last week. Gerry Adams stood up and named Ivor Bell as the man on the tape during his questioning. During questioning, Ivor Bell never identified himself, and the police couldn't confirm if it was him or not. Boston College have lost Ivors contract, and at this moment in time only Gerry Adams statement links Ivor Bell to the tapes. And you and Sinn Fein have the brass neck to call people "Touts"?

Dixie Ivor Bell was arrested and charged before Police spoke to Adams and this is what he had to say about the interview so how has he touted on Ivor Bell.


The allegation of conspiracy in the killing of Mrs. McConville is based almost exclusively on hearsay from unnamed alleged Boston College interviewees but mainly from the late Dolours Price and Brendan Hughes. Other anonymous alleged Belfast Project interviewees were identified only by a letter of the alphabet, e.g. interviewee R or Y. One of these is claimed by the PSNI to be Ivor Bell although the interrogators told me he has denied the allegations. In the course of my interrogations they played what they alleged was a recording by Ivor Bell. They asked me to confirm that this was indeed his voice. I told them I could not do that.
- See more at: http://leargas.blogspot.co.uk/#sthash.Ex1oZorg.dpuf

In his blog he uses the word alleged. In this statement he doesn't use it as he says as fact that the tape was Ivor Bell.

Either way, you still havn't come up with any postings that you claim to say I have posted ?

Do you want to withdraw that allegation yet?




Getting a bit tedious this proving you wrong but check 9th Jan post 156 and the 25 Th October post 170 on both occasions you copy and pasted McIntyre's rag The pensive quill.

Glens, could you please provide links to the articles by Anthony McIntyre that you continually claim to say I posted. By the way, posts 156 and 170 are not from myself.

Dixie have already told you how you can see two of them you posted,now go and look at them yourself or ask McIntyre to send you a copy.You are very sad if you are now in denial but I wouldn't blame you after all I think McIntyre is embarrassed about them himself now.

give her dixie

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on May 11, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on May 11, 2014, 12:27:29 PM

Glens, could you please provide links to the articles by Anthony McIntyre that you continually claim to say I posted. By the way, posts 156 and 170 are not from myself.

I assume he was referring to posts 157 and 171 showing the contributions of Guest writers to McIntyre's site. Of course you knew this. A simple click on "show posts" under your username and scrolling to Jan 9th , Oct 25th reveal the posts. Also, they are  your only posts on Jan 9 and oct 25th. Only a blind man or a deliberate liar would claim to not be able to find them

Quote from: give her dixie on January 09, 2014, 10:49:02 PM
SINN FEIN COUNCILLOR REFERS TO VICTIMS OF SUICIDE AS 'DEATH WANTERS.'

http://thepensivequill.am/2014/01/sinn-fein-councillor-refers-to-victims.html

Quote from: give her dixie on October 25, 2013, 12:27:40 AM
Our revenge will be the laughter of our children....

http://thepensivequill.am/2013/10/our-revenge-will-be-laughter-of-our.html

I don't have a dog in this fight. I have no time for Adams or Sinn Fein,  however,  this is just another example of the mendacious, weaselly way that you and Seafoid operate. It's what I call the "plausible denial" tactic. Always on the attack, whipping up hatred but always slippery when challenged. Constant evasions. Knowing deceptions (as shown above).


Mike, if you would have taken the time to click on both articles (and read them) you will see that one is by Thomas Elliott, and the other by Gerard Hodgins. They just happen to be published on the Pensive Quill.

Glens has accused me of posting articles by Anthony McIntyre. I have asked him to prove that allegation. So far, he has failed to do so.

Here are a few examples of his claims and his constant attempts to associate me with Anthony McIntyre:

"Dixie go look at the times you copy and paste from "The Pensive Quill" are you trying to say you don't know that this is more of McIntyres handywork,a rag that has been attacking Adams and the SF leadership in much harsher terms than anything I have ever used on this forum to attack you and your ilk. Think this diatribe you have just posted show you are keeping good company.If you believe that Martin McGuinness wanting those who murdered a young Gael who joined the PSNI believing he was trying to bring about a new beginning to policing in the North to be brought to justice is the same as a crowd of twisted old men and women conspiring to tout on former comrades and get handfuls of money,well good luck to you all.I would have more respect for young Ronan Kerr than your crowd."

"Dixie,is this the best you can come up with to defend the bunch of touts that you support and quote at every opportunity.Catch a grip your chum McIntyre has been shown up for what he is."

"This man McIntyre who Give Her Dixie quotes all the time to attack SF is paid £100k to get people to tell lies and tout on former friends and comrades to try and discredit SF and Adams.He worked for McFeely in the Priory Hall project that left scores of people homeless with big debts and even one person taken his own life he was so depressed.The Brits and their fellow travellers will stoop as low as they can to attack Republicans but I have a message for you Dixie it's not working, people are see you all for what you are.Enjoy May the 25th when the results are in. :-[ :-["

"Dixie don't believe all you read in the Brit press or your dissie chums tell you."

"The brothers-in- law in Tyrone,McIntyre,Jim Allister,Jamie Bryson,and Dixie must be doing somersaults"

In his reply to the article above where a Sinn Fein Councillor said this about Suicide victims:
" I think those death wanters think they are to important to live.", Glens had this to say:

"if this is true I have no doubt he will be dealt with within the party as SF work very hard with groups involved in suicide awareness,but to quote something from a paper edited by a man who got Ex-republican prisoners to inform on their former comrades and was involved with the gangster McFeely in the Priory Hall project I would take with a pinch of salt.Sinking pretty low now Dixie."

The Mid Ulster Mail also reported on this story. Why should it matter what outlet published the story? Should what he said not be the issue here?

And in reply to the 2nd article I posted about the lies Gerry Adams told to everyone regarding how he covered up child abuse, Glens had this to say:

"Well well Dixie the Pensivequill or Tony's weekly liar.Published by a "Republican" who got vulnerable people to tout on their former comrades,a "Socialist" who conspired with others to build Priory Hall and distroy working peoples lives[maybe even used catapiller while building them].Really stooping low now Dixie so remember the old saying if you lie with dogs you will get up with fleas."

Once again, he said nothing about the story in the article.



As you can see from above Mike, all I have done is post links to 2 articles that appeared on The Pensive Quill. They were by 2 different authors, neither of whom is Anthony McIntyre.

As you can see from the quotes above, Glens claims in several posts are untrue, and he has used lies to try and blacken me and my character with constant associations with Anthony McIntyre and others. He even stooped to a low by bringing the deaths of 2 young men into the debate in another attempt to discredit me and Anthony McIntyre.

He is only following party orders to blacken Anthony McIntyres name, and those of anyone they think are associated with him. Even if they have no evidence, blacken them anyway as can be seen from above.

Right across social media and on the many walls around west Belfast no chance is missed to publicly blacken those associated with the Boston tapes. Danny Morrison tweeted the other day "The Boston Touting Project" Gerry Adams re tweeted that message. That was the rubber stamp his followers needed to continue this character assassination.

As Gareth Pierce delivered a lecture last Saturday night as part of the annual Brendan Hughes lecture in west Belfast, JJ Magee, a Sinn Fein Councillor tweeted the following:

Cllr JJ Magee @jjnorthbelfast
In-former republicans conference in dc tonight all touts welcome #bostontapes

Needless to say Gareth wasn't impressed, and neither were those who were there. No apology has been offered by Magee or Sinn Fein for the offensive tweet. Given the work Gareth has done for Irish people, this was a disgusting remark, and typical of the bully boy nature of Sinn Fein that we have seen in the past week.

Only a couple of weeks ago Sinn Fein responded to a banner unfurled on the Black Mountain that said "One Ireland One Vote". Sinn Fein Coucillor Jim McVeigh had this to say "I just think it is about time for everyone to stop putting stuff up; it's not particularly aesthetic looking". Martin McGuinness also spoke out in condemnation and issued a joint statement with Peter Robinson

However, they have sat back and said nothing as ugly graffiti has spread across West Belfast. There is also a subliminal message here towards the McConville family who have threatened to go to the police and tell them who they believe was involved in their mothers abduction and execution.

In East Belfast in recent weeks graffiti has spread attacking foreign nationals living in the area. This graffiti in West Belfast is no different in my opinion as its message is threatening to others. This past weekend thousands of visitors poured into Belfast for the Giro d'Italia. I'm sure they were impressed by the messages been sent out in 2 different parts of Belfast.

Today Gerry Adams had no problem with messages on the mountain as he tweeted a picture of the banner unveiled over the weekend. Hypocrisy or what?

If Sinn Fein really cared about the communities they represent, they wouldn't allow the graffiti to go up in the 1st place, and they should be doing all in their power to remove it. Encouraging it by sending out tweets shouldn't be the actions of a party who are currently knocking doors up and down the country trying to tell people how nice they are why they should vote for them.

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

glens abu

Quote from: give her dixie on May 11, 2014, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on May 11, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on May 11, 2014, 12:27:29 PM

Glens, could you please provide links to the articles by Anthony McIntyre that you continually claim to say I posted. By the way, posts 156 and 170 are not from myself.

I assume he was referring to posts 157 and 171 showing the contributions of Guest writers to McIntyre's site. Of course you knew this. A simple click on "show posts" under your username and scrolling to Jan 9th , Oct 25th reveal the posts. Also, they are  your only posts on Jan 9 and oct 25th. Only a blind man or a deliberate liar would claim to not be able to find them

Quote from: give her dixie on January 09, 2014, 10:49:02 PM
SINN FEIN COUNCILLOR REFERS TO VICTIMS OF SUICIDE AS 'DEATH WANTERS.'

http://thepensivequill.am/2014/01/sinn-fein-councillor-refers-to-victims.html

Quote from: give her dixie on October 25, 2013, 12:27:40 AM
Our revenge will be the laughter of our children....

http://thepensivequill.am/2013/10/our-revenge-will-be-laughter-of-our.html

I don't have a dog in this fight. I have no time for Adams or Sinn Fein,  however,  this is just another example of the mendacious, weaselly way that you and Seafoid operate. It's what I call the "plausible denial" tactic. Always on the attack, whipping up hatred but always slippery when challenged. Constant evasions. Knowing deceptions (as shown above).


Mike, if you would have taken the time to click on both articles (and read them) you will see that one is by Thomas Elliott, and the other by Gerard Hodgins. They just happen to be published on the Pensive Quill.

Glens has accused me of posting articles by Anthony McIntyre. I have asked him to prove that allegation. So far, he has failed to do so.

Here are a few examples of his claims and his constant attempts to associate me with Anthony McIntyre:

"Dixie go look at the times you copy and paste from "The Pensive Quill" are you trying to say you don't know that this is more of McIntyres handywork,a rag that has been attacking Adams and the SF leadership in much harsher terms than anything I have ever used on this forum to attack you and your ilk. Think this diatribe you have just posted show you are keeping good company.If you believe that Martin McGuinness wanting those who murdered a young Gael who joined the PSNI believing he was trying to bring about a new beginning to policing in the North to be brought to justice is the same as a crowd of twisted old men and women conspiring to tout on former comrades and get handfuls of money,well good luck to you all.I would have more respect for young Ronan Kerr than your crowd."

"Dixie,is this the best you can come up with to defend the bunch of touts that you support and quote at every opportunity.Catch a grip your chum McIntyre has been shown up for what he is."

"This man McIntyre who Give Her Dixie quotes all the time to attack SF is paid £100k to get people to tell lies and tout on former friends and comrades to try and discredit SF and Adams.He worked for McFeely in the Priory Hall project that left scores of people homeless with big debts and even one person taken his own life he was so depressed.The Brits and their fellow travellers will stoop as low as they can to attack Republicans but I have a message for you Dixie it's not working, people are see you all for what you are.Enjoy May the 25th when the results are in. :-[ :-["

"Dixie don't believe all you read in the Brit press or your dissie chums tell you."

"The brothers-in- law in Tyrone,McIntyre,Jim Allister,Jamie Bryson,and Dixie must be doing somersaults"

In his reply to the article above where a Sinn Fein Councillor said this about Suicide victims:
" I think those death wanters think they are to important to live.", Glens had this to say:

"if this is true I have no doubt he will be dealt with within the party as SF work very hard with groups involved in suicide awareness,but to quote something from a paper edited by a man who got Ex-republican prisoners to inform on their former comrades and was involved with the gangster McFeely in the Priory Hall project I would take with a pinch of salt.Sinking pretty low now Dixie."

The Mid Ulster Mail also reported on this story. Why should it matter what outlet published the story? Should what he said not be the issue here?

And in reply to the 2nd article I posted about the lies Gerry Adams told to everyone regarding how he covered up child abuse, Glens had this to say:

"Well well Dixie the Pensivequill or Tony's weekly liar.Published by a "Republican" who got vulnerable people to tout on their former comrades,a "Socialist" who conspired with others to build Priory Hall and distroy working peoples lives[maybe even used catapiller while building them].Really stooping low now Dixie so remember the old saying if you lie with dogs you will get up with fleas."

Once again, he said nothing about the story in the article.



As you can see from above Mike, all I have done is post links to 2 articles that appeared on The Pensive Quill. They were by 2 different authors, neither of whom is Anthony McIntyre.

As you can see from the quotes above, Glens claims in several posts are untrue, and he has used lies to try and blacken me and my character with constant associations with Anthony McIntyre and others. He even stooped to a low by bringing the deaths of 2 young men into the debate in another attempt to discredit me and Anthony McIntyre.

He is only following party orders to blacken Anthony McIntyres name, and those of anyone they think are associated with him. Even if they have no evidence, blacken them anyway as can be seen from above.

Right across social media and on the many walls around west Belfast no chance is missed to publicly blacken those associated with the Boston tapes. Danny Morrison tweeted the other day "The Boston Touting Project" Gerry Adams re tweeted that message. That was the rubber stamp his followers needed to continue this character assassination.

As Gareth Pierce delivered a lecture last Saturday night as part of the annual Brendan Hughes lecture in west Belfast, JJ Magee, a Sinn Fein Councillor tweeted the following:

Cllr JJ Magee @jjnorthbelfast
In-former republicans conference in dc tonight all touts welcome #bostontapes

Needless to say Gareth wasn't impressed, and neither were those who were there. No apology has been offered by Magee or Sinn Fein for the offensive tweet. Given the work Gareth has done for Irish people, this was a disgusting remark, and typical of the bully boy nature of Sinn Fein that we have seen in the past week.

Only a couple of weeks ago Sinn Fein responded to a banner unfurled on the Black Mountain that said "One Ireland One Vote". Sinn Fein Coucillor Jim McVeigh had this to say "I just think it is about time for everyone to stop putting stuff up; it's not particularly aesthetic looking". Martin McGuinness also spoke out in condemnation and issued a joint statement with Peter Robinson

However, they have sat back and said nothing as ugly graffiti has spread across West Belfast. There is also a subliminal message here towards the McConville family who have threatened to go to the police and tell them who they believe was involved in their mothers abduction and execution.

In East Belfast in recent weeks graffiti has spread attacking foreign nationals living in the area. This graffiti in West Belfast is no different in my opinion as its message is threatening to others. This past weekend thousands of visitors poured into Belfast for the Giro d'Italia. I'm sure they were impressed by the messages been sent out in 2 different parts of Belfast.

Today Gerry Adams had no problem with messages on the mountain as he tweeted a picture of the banner unveiled over the weekend. Hypocrisy or what?

If Sinn Fein really cared about the communities they represent, they wouldn't allow the graffiti to go up in the 1st place, and they should be doing all in their power to remove it. Encouraging it by sending out tweets shouldn't be the actions of a party who are currently knocking doors up and down the country trying to tell people how nice they are why they should vote for them.

Dixie you have just admitted you have put up posts from McIntyres rag the Pensive Quill,so why the denials all along.

give her dixie

Glens, at no stage did I ever deny posting articles by the Pensive Quill. I knew I had posted them, I remembered the articles, I remembered what they were about, and I certainly remembered who wrote them.

I asked you to post the articles you claimed I posted when you said things like this:

"This man McIntyre who Give Her Dixie quotes all the time to attack SF"

What I have shown Glens is how you couldn't back up what you claimed. You talked the talk, but couldn't walk the walk.

And for the record Glens, I have only been in contact once with Anthony McIntyre and that was to send him a message on facebook to thank him for an article he published on the Hunger Strike by Khader Adnan a couple of years ago. Here is a link to it:

http://thepensivequill.am/2012/02/66-days.html

As I have pointed out above glens, you have taken a small link from me to Anthony McIntyre and used it as a battering ram against me and Anthony McIntyre. You don't like it when southern politicians use a tragedy in order to have a go at Sinn Fein in the Dail. You had no problem using 2 deaths to have a go at me.

As far as i'm concerned I have proved my point. Others following this post can make their own minds up. I'm finished with the topic, and i'm finished debating with you until you learn how to treat people with some respect and humanity.
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

glens abu

Quote from: give her dixie on May 11, 2014, 06:34:18 PM
Glens, at no stage did I ever deny posting articles by the Pensive Quill. I knew I had posted them, I remembered the articles, I remembered what they were about, and I certainly remembered who wrote them.

I asked you to post the articles you claimed I posted when you said things like this:

"This man McIntyre who Give Her Dixie quotes all the time to attack SF"

What I have shown Glens is how you couldn't back up what you claimed. You talked the talk, but couldn't walk the walk.

And for the record Glens, I have only been in contact once with Anthony McIntyre and that was to send him a message on facebook to thank him for an article he published on the Hunger Strike by Khader Adnan a couple of years ago. Here is a link to it:

http://thepensivequill.am/2012/02/66-days.html

As I have pointed out above glens, you have taken a small link from me to Anthony McIntyre and used it as a battering ram against me and Anthony McIntyre. You don't like it when southern politicians use a tragedy in order to have a go at Sinn Fein in the Dail. You had no problem using 2 deaths to have a go at me.

As far as i'm concerned I have proved my point. Others following this post can make their own minds up. I'm finished with the topic, and i'm finished debating with you until you learn how to treat people with some respect and humanity.

Dixie as you well know McIntyre has used his rag to gather around him others who are Anti peace process and more so anti SF  the same type of people he got to make the Boston Tapes.He has people like you on board to spread his propaganda and you have all been happy to do this but now when he is shown up for what he is you are all in denial.Keep telling yourselves you are right and everyone else is wrong Dixie but the truth will out as it has at long last regarding his lies and touting in The Boston Project.Goodbye and God bless it will be great to see the back of you and McIntyres lies.

Mike Sheehy

Quote from: seafoid on May 11, 2014, 04:09:47 PM
MikeSheehy

Is this part of your work for your therapist ?

You should see a therapist about your obsession with Jews ? Maybe you can find one in Ballinasloe or someplace. 





Mike Sheehy

So, you say this......

Quote from: give her dixie on May 11, 2014, 05:25:54 PM
Mike, if you would have taken the time to click on both articles (and read them) you will see that one is by Thomas Elliott, and the other by Gerard Hodgins. They just happen to be published on the Pensive Quill.

yet I clearly said in my post...

QuoteI assume he was referring to posts 157 and 171 showing the contributions of Guest writers

So, once again, you would have us believe that you did not see this ? You are a liar. You saw what I had written but , in that timehonoured tactic that you and Seafoid use, you deliberately feign ignorance. This, of course, requires the other person to work that bit harder to pin you down allowing you that bit more room to further obfuscate and wiggle your way out of taking responsibility for what you post.

Stop doing this give-her-Dixie. It is pathetic and Its as obvious as mud to any intelligent poster. You've been doing it for years but most people just couldn't be arsed to chase you down every getaway alley that you scurry down when challenged.

QuoteAs I have pointed out above glens, you have taken a small link from me to Anthony McIntyre and used it as a battering ram against me and Anthony McIntyre.

You are responsible for everything you post so spare us the "small link" bullshit. Remember that Malaysian "friend" whose article you linked to a while back about the missing jet ? You expect me to believe that it was just a coincidence that the "friend" happened to to pretty much express, word for word, the views of a rabid Malaysian anti-Semitic nutjob
Quotehttp://www.amazon.com/Future-Fastforward-Zionist-Anglo-American-Meltdown/dp/9676904112
Do you think we are stupid..?

Its what I keep saying about "plausible denial" ...you won't express these views explicitly. You are too slippery to put them down in black and white  but it's as obvious as hell what your views are by what you post.


QuoteAs far as i'm concerned I have proved my point. Others following this post can make their own minds up. I'm finished with the topic, and i'm finished debating with you until you learn how to treat people with some respect and humanity. 



...and, right on cue, you run away as soon as somebody takes you on and challenges you. the thing is this is not the first time you have done this. I think this is about the third time you have thrown your toys out of the pram when you start getting a bit of heat.

If you aren't willing to engage and defend what you post then piss off and stop spamming the board with these articles.


give her dixie

Mike, given that I replied to you in relation to a post by yourself, and given that I said I was finished discussing the false allegations against me, I at least owe you a reply to your reply to me.

I will post my response in bold below what you have posted.

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on May 12, 2014, 01:21:27 AM
So, you say this......

Quote from: give her dixie on May 11, 2014, 05:25:54 PM
Mike, if you would have taken the time to click on both articles (and read them) you will see that one is by Thomas Elliott, and the other by Gerard Hodgins. They just happen to be published on the Pensive Quill.

yet I clearly said in my post...

QuoteI assume he was referring to posts 157 and 171 showing the contributions of Guest writers

So, once again, you would have us believe that you did not see this ? You are a liar. You saw what I had written but , in that timehonoured tactic that you and Seafoid use, you deliberately feign ignorance. This, of course, requires the other person to work that bit harder to pin you down allowing you that bit more room to further obfuscate and wiggle your way out of taking responsibility for what you post.

Stop doing this give-her-Dixie. It is pathetic and Its as obvious as mud to any intelligent poster. You've been doing it for years but most people just couldn't be arsed to chase you down every getaway alley that you scurry down when challenged.

I know you said "guest writers", no need to highlight it. If you had of posted my next sentence you will see that I said the following. I will include what you posted, and what you left out in order to make my point:

"Mike, if you would have taken the time to click on both articles (and read them) you will see that one is by Thomas Elliott, and the other by Gerard Hodgins. They just happen to be published on the Pensive Quill.

Glens has accused me of posting articles by Anthony McIntyre. I have asked him to prove that allegation. So far, he has failed to do so."

As I have already proved Mike, I never posted one single article written by Anthony McIntyre. (Apart from the 66 Days article a few hours ago)

To coin an often used phrase from these parts, "You cherry picked an argument" by leaving out an important following sentence

Mike, considering that I repeatably asked Glens to provide evidence to back up his claims that I posted articles by Anthony McIntyre, he failed to come up with one. Since I challenged his claim, not even he, or one of the hundreds of posters who viewed this thread could back up his claim.  If I was to borrow your phrase "Its as obvious as mud to any intelligent poster"  that no posts existed.


QuoteAs I have pointed out above glens, you have taken a small link from me to Anthony McIntyre and used it as a battering ram against me and Anthony McIntyre.

You are responsible for everything you post so spare us the "small link" bullshit. Remember that Malaysian "friend" whose article you linked to a while back about the missing jet ? You expect me to believe that it was just a coincidence that the "friend" happened to to pretty much express, word for word, the views of a rabid Malaysian anti-Semitic nutjob
Quotehttp://www.amazon.com/Future-Fastforward-Zionist-Anglo-American-Meltdown/dp/9676904112
Do you think we are stupid..?

I'm glad you brought this up Mike. When I seen the article by my friend  Matthias Chang I immediately posted the link and asked Muppet and others to comment. I didn't have the time to check the validity of his claims, and by asking others better versed on the subject, I got a general consensus. Despite not acknowledging the replies I received,  I took on board their opinions given that they knew a whole lot more than I did. I take that you noticed that I didn't mention the article again after I got my replies?

To give you some background Mike,  Matthias Chang who wrote that article is a leader of the  "Perdana Global Peace Organisation", an organisation founded by the former Malaysian prime minister  Mahathir bin Mohamad

On my 2nd convoy to Gaza, Matthias Chang headed up a Malaysian delegation who were taking part. Over a frought 4 weeks, we got to know each other very well. During our stalemate in Jordan and Syria, Matthias and 2 others flew to Egypt to negotiate our entry to Gaza. Upon their return, they announced a negotiated deal that would allow us to ship our vehicles and aid to Al Arish, 30 miles from Gaza, and all 500+ of us could fly to the same town and go to Gaza from there and cross through the Rafah border between Egypt and Palestine.

On behalf of the Perdona Organization, he pulled out the check book and paid for the boat, and co sponsored 4 flights carrying 500+ people. Having been delegated the job of seeing everyone onto the flights at the airport, I was the last to board. I was handed a ticket for everyone who flew marked "FOC" It was paid for by the Perdona group.

We all flew to Al Arish, our vehicles were shipped there as well, and we all made the short journey to Gaza and delivered our vehicles and aid. When we left Gaza, we were bused straight to Cairo airport and deported from Egypt.

A few months later, the Perdona group also paid for a boat to leave Ireland filled with aid. The ship was named "Rachel Corrie"

Skippered by a couple from Mayo, they set off from Dundalk to join the flotilla headed for Gaza. On board was 500 tonne of Quinn cement. Through a family friend, I met with a senior Quinn representative who agreed to donate that amount of cement.

They were well aware that CRH, their Irish rival, owned a stake in the Israeli company that supplied all the cement that was been used in the building of the apartheid wall, and for all the settlements built on Palestinian land. Faced with this evidence, they insisted that their donation had nothing to do with CRH's involvement in the persecution of Palestinians, but more to do with the plight of those in Gaza who needed vital materials to rebuild their homes. They were not interested in point scoring.

Mossad sabotaged the ship in Dundalk before it left, setting it back as it was repaired. 5 days after Israel killed 9 people as they made their way to Gaza in order to deliver humanitarian aid, they boarded the Rachel Corrie and arrested all on board as it sailed towards Gaza in international waters.

Among those arrested along with Matthias were UN Secretary-General Denis Halliday and Nobel Peace Prize winner Mairead Maguire .

The aid on board never made it to Gaza.

The ship was named Rachel Corrie after the young US activist who stood up to the might of the Israeli occupation forces in Gaza and was crushed to death by a Caterpillar D9 dozer as she defended a Palestinian home that was due for demolition.

Recently we have seen Sinn Fein publicly support Caterpillar and endorse them with a grant for $2 million of taxpayers money. On the anniversary of Rachels death several Sinn fein representatives posted messages of support for her. Anyone who challenged them on their parties support for Caterpillar were ignored or deleted.

Its what I keep saying about "plausible denial" ...you won't express these views explicitly. You are too slippery to put them down in black and white  but it's as obvious as hell what your views are by what you post.


QuoteAs far as i'm concerned I have proved my point. Others following this post can make their own minds up. I'm finished with the topic, and i'm finished debating with you until you learn how to treat people with some respect and humanity. 



...and, right on cue, you run away as soon as somebody takes you on and challenges you. the thing is this is not the first time you have done this. I think this is about the third time you have thrown your toys out of the pram when you start getting a bit of heat.

If you aren't willing to engage and defend what you post then piss off and stop spamming the board with these articles.

Mike, I hope by my responses I have clarified my position, and you can see where I am coming from
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

Applesisapples

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 10, 2014, 12:31:52 AM
Apples is apples, do you work in one of these ELB? you seem to know how the funding works and that's its the ELBS  are responsible for what resources go to schools, who sets the policy? better yet who direct the policy to the ELBS? how do you know the ELBS are using resources poorly>?

Sinn Fein have not improved the education sector since the took over that dept which wasn't a shining light before hand anyway. School closures never tackled, CCMS schools inability to look at the integrated option, They spent all there time clashing with DUP to try and find a middle ground cause either party that pig headed they wouldn't agree a middle ground. have schools benefited from the removal of the 11plus NO! And if no-one wanted it why is there so many parents allowing their children to sit unregulated exams.

Like you I'm expressing an opinion. But one based on having listened to the debate and to the informed contributions of those in the sector. Only a minority of parents are opting for unregulated exams to gain entry to what the percieve as better schools. You started your first post expressing disappointment that your child has to travel to school. One of the outworkings of the 11 plus would be children accessin education in institutions close to where they live.

armaghniac

Quote from: Applesisapples on May 12, 2014, 08:55:52 AM
Only a minority of parents are opting for unregulated exams to gain entry to what the percieve as better schools. You started your first post expressing disappointment that your child has to travel to school. One of the outworkings of the 11 plus would be children accessin education in institutions close to where they live.

Since half of children are below average, by definition, they need not bother doing exams. Of the remainder some live near good schools anyway. So there is no need for a majority of parents to opt for such exams.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Saffrongael

Sinn Fein and DUP top the polls again, this time though it's in councillors missing council meetings. Noreen McAllister of Sinn Fein and Davy McAllister of DUP, both in Moyle, attended just 36% of full council meetings.

That's some representation for their constituents  :-[
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

orangeman

Perfectly timed :


Gerry Adams claims that his arrest has galvanised SF and instead of doing it harm, has actually been a benefit and SF's vote will increase.


The Brits would do anything to get rid of us. This must be really frustrating for Unionists - they're being sold pup after pup.

armaghniac

Quote from: orangeman on May 12, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
Perfectly timed :


Gerry Adams claims that his arrest has galvanised SF and instead of doing it harm, has actually been a benefit and SF's vote will increase.

Perhaps they'll arrest him again, and a few others as well, and the SF vote will rocket, bringing about an instant United Ireland.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

orangeman

Quote from: armaghniac on May 12, 2014, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 12, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
Perfectly timed :


Gerry Adams claims that his arrest has galvanised SF and instead of doing it harm, has actually been a benefit and SF's vote will increase.

Perhaps they'll arrest him again, and a few others as well, and the SF vote will rocket, bringing about an instant United Ireland.

Take it easy.

They can't arrest everybody at the one time. Somebody in authority has to be there to accuse the cops of being a dark force, that it's politically motivated, that it's being done to damage SF at the polls and to go to the Antrim Suite to protest.

AQMP

Quote from: orangeman on May 12, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
Perfectly timed :


Gerry Adams claims that his arrest has galvanised SF and instead of doing it harm, has actually been a benefit and SF's vote will increase.


The Brits would do anything to get rid of us. This must be really frustrating for Unionists - they're being sold pup after pup.

Did he??  From the Iris Times:

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/gerry-adams-says-his-arrest-has-galvanised-sinn-f%C3%A9in-activists-1.1792140

"More generally on his arrest Mr Adams said, "It is not beneficial to Sinn Féin, it is not beneficial to me, it is not beneficial to my family"