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Nally Stand

Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
Bringing on an elected politician and accusing him of being responsible for the death of a named individual, without a single, solitary SHRED of evidence, as Miriam O'Callaghan did last night, is not impartial and balanced journalism from the state broadcaster.
Do you think she'd be worried that Gerry might sue for libel?
Do you think making direct allegations that an interviewee was responsible for a named man's death is acceptable journalism from a state broadcaster?
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

Maguire01

Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
Bringing on an elected politician and accusing him of being responsible for the death of a named individual, without a single, solitary SHRED of evidence, as Miriam O'Callaghan did last night, is not impartial and balanced journalism from the state broadcaster.
Do you think she'd be worried that Gerry might sue for libel?
Do you think making direct allegations that an interviewee was responsible for a named man's death is acceptable journalism from a state broadcaster?
I suppose it depends if she can stand over them.

camanchero

Quote from: muppet on April 30, 2013, 09:28:06 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on April 30, 2013, 09:23:52 PM
My guess as to why miriam ocallaghan always seems imbalanced or anti sf / anti republican in her supposedly professional capacity is down to a lingering issue she has with her ex husband who has republican tainted views but in spite of this always comes across as the consumate professional unlike his ex bird!

As for adams calling for republicans who fought for Irish freedom to be honoured- pity it was him who said it, but it is a good idea.

The 1916 anniversary might come too soon for more recent candidates to be included, but in time they all will - as at one point in time the 1916 people were not held in high regard either, so expect when the raw recent feeling has subsided, they will all be venerated.
Prob in the reunified Ireland at that stage!


You see this is a reasonable line of argument. Calling for people to be honoured while the families of their innocent victims are still alive is completely different from doing it 100 years later. Even Saints have to wait to be canonised.
I'm not calling for it, but it will happen.
The only tangiable is time.
I'm sure their are a lot of families affected by 1916 or 1921 civil war, war of independence - but enough time has passed by for their affront to be diluted.
Same thing will happen again eventually!
IMO - esp if 1916 and 1921 are anything to go by - sure isn't Michael Collins venerated more now than back then!

Nally Stand

Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
Bringing on an elected politician and accusing him of being responsible for the death of a named individual, without a single, solitary SHRED of evidence, as Miriam O'Callaghan did last night, is not impartial and balanced journalism from the state broadcaster.
Do you think she'd be worried that Gerry might sue for libel?
Do you think making direct allegations that an interviewee was responsible for a named man's death is acceptable journalism from a state broadcaster?
I suppose it depends if she can stand over them.
She didn't make much of a job of doing that when challenged. She just openly accused Adams of being responsible for a mans death. Similar to when she came out with the infamous line, "how do you square, Martin McGuinness, with your God, the fact that you were involved in the murders of so many people". This from the state broadcaster!
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

camanchero

She is a woman scorned Nally - that's the crux, with impartiality and professionalism out the window as she's on a personal crusade against republicans and sf as she identifies her ex husband with them!
Don't look for professionalism in rte , the dail or politics.
All self serving me feiner unprofessional cnuts.

muppet

Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
By all means, wait until the search function comes back. I'm looking forward to see what it turns up. What sort of honour do you have in mind anyway?

Quotedo you support Adams' call for all those who fought for Irish freedom to be honoured or not

Well?

MWWSI 2017

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 12:51:14 PM
Quote from: Hardy on April 30, 2013, 12:35:22 PM
The thing is, former members of the British security forces are not sitting in, or seeking election to the Dáil.
I wonder why nobody from the Labour party ever gets much of a going over from RTÉ about their past. Hmmm.

Probably because the are not as spine chillingly annoying as you lads and don't sound like they talk with a bad version of a Scottish accent all the time.

f**k the general Scottish anger in the Ulster accent turns my stomach,
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Rossfan

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 01, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
f**k the general Scottish anger in the Ulster accent turns my stomach,
I think you'll find that there are a number of "Ulster" accents.
There's not much Scotch in a Cavan, West Donegal, South Donegal, South Armagh, most of Monaghan accent e.g.
Also would you know the difference between a Ballinamore (Connacht) and a Killeshandra( Ulster) accent?.

Your use of the word "Ulster" would suggest you've spent too long across the water listening to their media ;)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

armaghniac

QuoteI think you'll find that there are a number of "Ulster" accents.
There's not much Scotch in a Cavan, West Donegal, South Donegal, South Armagh, most of Monaghan accent

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Maguire01

Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
Bringing on an elected politician and accusing him of being responsible for the death of a named individual, without a single, solitary SHRED of evidence, as Miriam O'Callaghan did last night, is not impartial and balanced journalism from the state broadcaster.
Do you think she'd be worried that Gerry might sue for libel?
Do you think making direct allegations that an interviewee was responsible for a named man's death is acceptable journalism from a state broadcaster?
I suppose it depends if she can stand over them.
She didn't make much of a job of doing that when challenged. She just openly accused Adams of being responsible for a mans death. Similar to when she came out with the infamous line, "how do you square, Martin McGuinness, with your God, the fact that you were involved in the murders of so many people". This from the state broadcaster!
Presumably she's willing to stand over them if Adams takes legal proceedings against her.

In relation to the 'fact' point, maybe 'logical conclusion' would have been a better way of putting it?

dec

Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
Bringing on an elected politician and accusing him of being responsible for the death of a named individual, without a single, solitary SHRED of evidence, as Miriam O'Callaghan did last night, is not impartial and balanced journalism from the state broadcaster.
Do you think she'd be worried that Gerry might sue for libel?
Do you think making direct allegations that an interviewee was responsible for a named man's death is acceptable journalism from a state broadcaster?
I suppose it depends if she can stand over them.
She didn't make much of a job of doing that when challenged. She just openly accused Adams of being responsible for a mans death. Similar to when she came out with the infamous line, "how do you square, Martin McGuinness, with your God, the fact that you were involved in the murders of so many people". This from the state broadcaster!

According to Nally Stand "The dogs in the street know these loyalists were acting with security force collusion."
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=19293.msg962172#msg962172

And the dogs in the street also know that Adams and McGuinness were senior figures in the IRA.

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: armaghniac on May 01, 2013, 12:07:50 PM
QuoteI think you'll find that there are a number of "Ulster" accents.
There's not much Scotch in a Cavan, West Donegal, South Donegal, South Armagh, most of Monaghan accent



Stop confusing an accent with a dialect lads
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Nally Stand

#1227
Quote from: dec on May 01, 2013, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
Bringing on an elected politician and accusing him of being responsible for the death of a named individual, without a single, solitary SHRED of evidence, as Miriam O'Callaghan did last night, is not impartial and balanced journalism from the state broadcaster.
Do you think she'd be worried that Gerry might sue for libel?
Do you think making direct allegations that an interviewee was responsible for a named man's death is acceptable journalism from a state broadcaster?
I suppose it depends if she can stand over them.
She didn't make much of a job of doing that when challenged. She just openly accused Adams of being responsible for a mans death. Similar to when she came out with the infamous line, "how do you square, Martin McGuinness, with your God, the fact that you were involved in the murders of so many people". This from the state broadcaster!

According to Nally Stand "The dogs in the street know these loyalists were acting with security force collusion."
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=19293.msg962172#msg962172

And the dogs in the street also know that Adams and McGuinness were senior figures in the IRA.
Me saying that the dogs in the street knew about collusion is a bit different than a journalist at the state broadcaster on live tv making a direct accusation of involvement in the death of a named individual, wouldn't you say???
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

Nally Stand

#1228
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 01, 2013, 05:31:07 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 30, 2013, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on April 30, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
Bringing on an elected politician and accusing him of being responsible for the death of a named individual, without a single, solitary SHRED of evidence, as Miriam O'Callaghan did last night, is not impartial and balanced journalism from the state broadcaster.
Do you think she'd be worried that Gerry might sue for libel?
Do you think making direct allegations that an interviewee was responsible for a named man's death is acceptable journalism from a state broadcaster?
I suppose it depends if she can stand over them.
She didn't make much of a job of doing that when challenged. She just openly accused Adams of being responsible for a mans death. Similar to when she came out with the infamous line, "how do you square, Martin McGuinness, with your God, the fact that you were involved in the murders of so many people". This from the state broadcaster!
Presumably she's willing to stand over them if Adams takes legal proceedings against her.

In relation to the 'fact' point, maybe 'logical conclusion' would have been a better way of putting it?
Wreckless accusations of murder without a source: acceptable standards from the state broadcaster or not?
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

Hardy

So no comment on the murders themselves but blustering outrage at the commentary on the murders.