Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[Rossfan]

Have you never heard people referring to areas using the word state?
Eg
The sperrins state
North western state
North eastern state
Allen state ( abrieviated version of big of Allen state) etc

In a word, no.

+1.
Lynchboy - just move on to another subject as you're not covering yourself in much glory or common sense in this one

[lynchbhoy]

Have you never heard people referring to areas using the word state?
Eg
The sperrins state
North western state
North eastern state
Allen state ( abrieviated version of big of Allen state) etc

In a word, no.

+1.
Lynchboy - just move on to another subject as you're not covering yourself in much glory or common sense in this one

maybe so, while not coming across well, the point is that there are weird and colloquial terms and prhases used in this country.
Just because people havent heard them doesnt mean they dont exists- I dont expect to many to have heard other phrases that I may have grown up with that were staple parts of my grandfarthers vocabulary.

but no one has the right to say that the use of any of these is right or wrong.
My initial objection was to being told what I meant in what I said- a bugbear of mine.
I dont care how daft I may look, I have experienced things that obv others have not - I'd not be telling others that they couldnt use words or phrases.
Its a bit like alstar skats - whily I dont deny it exists and is used in ways, I only object to calling it an actual language (to get funding) because I dont believe it is - no more than the words and phrases I knew growing up.
Interestingly (for me) the older generation believe that my grandfathers vocab was a donegal version of alstar skats.
The use of 'State' being one term he would use to describe certain areas - eg sperrin state (the area around the sperrins Derry/tyrone) or Innishowen state - where his family originated from.
I just find the responses a little ignorant and closed minded. Fine if you havent heard of it, but dont tell me its wrong just because you havent. I'll leave it at that, it is looking daft I'd admit.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

so when folk refer to the bog of allen state or south east counties state they are referring to political affiliations!
interesting.

I'm curious as well as to why would anyone say "the Bog of Allen state". It'd be like saying "the United States state".

lads I knew in college would refer to 'the allen state' the area .
I was on a 7 a side team in the college that were called 'Allen state' and only people that were living adjacent to the area (the bog of Allen) were let play on it.
I was on the side as where I lived was just about on the periphery of it.
Why - they just do - it does encompass multi counties so I can see why.

I'd only ever heard people up in the north Derry /Sperrin region using this termiology before that, but have heard wexfordians utter it since.

Okay. I don't know why they'd use such redundant terms, but there's nowt as queer as folk.

I heard that the Bog of Allen state was allied with the Kingdom of Kerry against the Peoples Republic of Cork and the Scouse Republic over the Queen Victoria Pubs claims to be the true ruler of all lands of the Reds.

The Isle of Innisfree, Narnia, Mordor, Lilliput and the Republic of Telly have convened a council to negotiate a peace.

Mercenaries from the OneRepublic have been charged with war crimes against the people of Atlantis, who are seeking shelter in the Castles in the Sky, way up high.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

so when folk refer to the bog of allen state or south east counties state they are referring to political affiliations!
interesting.

I'm curious as well as to why would anyone say "the Bog of Allen state". It'd be like saying "the United States state".

lads I knew in college would refer to 'the allen state' the area .
I was on a 7 a side team in the college that were called 'Allen state' and only people that were living adjacent to the area (the bog of Allen) were let play on it.
I was on the side as where I lived was just about on the periphery of it.
Why - they just do - it does encompass multi counties so I can see why.

I'd only ever heard people up in the north Derry /Sperrin region using this termiology before that, but have heard wexfordians utter it since.

Okay. I don't know why they'd use such redundant terms, but there's nowt as queer as folk.

"Quare" as folk.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Have you never heard people referring to areas using the word state?
Eg
The sperrins state
North western state
North eastern state
Allen state ( abrieviated version of big of Allen state) etc

In a word, no.

+1.
Lynchboy - just move on to another subject as you're not covering yourself in much glory or common sense in this one

maybe so, while not coming across well, the point is that there are weird and colloquial terms and prhases used in this country.
Just because people havent heard them doesnt mean they dont exists- I dont expect to many to have heard other phrases that I may have grown up with that were staple parts of my grandfarthers vocabulary.

but no one has the right to say that the use of any of these is right or wrong.
My initial objection was to being told what I meant in what I said- a bugbear of mine.
I dont care how daft I may look, I have experienced things that obv others have not - I'd not be telling others that they couldnt use words or phrases.
Its a bit like alstar skats - whily I dont deny it exists and is used in ways, I only object to calling it an actual language (to get funding) because I dont believe it is - no more than the words and phrases I knew growing up.
Interestingly (for me) the older generation believe that my grandfathers vocab was a donegal version of alstar skats.
The use of 'State' being one term he would use to describe certain areas - eg sperrin state (the area around the sperrins Derry/tyrone) or Innishowen state - where his family originated from.
I just find the responses a little ignorant and closed minded. Fine if you havent heard of it, but dont tell me its wrong just because you havent. I'll leave it at that, it is looking daft I'd admit.

OK Lynchboy when people from the Republic use the term the Irish State, or Ireland is an independent state, constituting 85% of the land area of the island of Ireland we are using the real meaning of the word. Just because your colloquialisms give you an incorrect definition that is not our fault, sure I thought bacon meant a roast of pork or christmas bacon before I moved to Australia. I was convinced bacon was not the same as a rasher (as bacon could not be used to describe a rasher cut), based on my own colloquial usage of the words.

[deiseach]

Okay. I don't know why they'd use such redundant terms, but there's nowt as queer as folk.

"Quare" as folk.

I meant what I said, and I said what I meant.

[Maguire01]

Have you never heard people referring to areas using the word state?
Eg
The sperrins state
North western state
North eastern state
Allen state ( abrieviated version of big of Allen state) etc

In a word, no.

+1.
Lynchboy - just move on to another subject as you're not covering yourself in much glory or common sense in this one

maybe so, while not coming across well, the point is that there are weird and colloquial terms and prhases used in this country.
Just because people havent heard them doesnt mean they dont exists- I dont expect to many to have heard other phrases that I may have grown up with that were staple parts of my grandfarthers vocabulary.

but no one has the right to say that the use of any of these is right or wrong.
My initial objection was to being told what I meant in what I said- a bugbear of mine.
I dont care how daft I may look, I have experienced things that obv others have not - I'd not be telling others that they couldnt use words or phrases.
Its a bit like alstar skats - whily I dont deny it exists and is used in ways, I only object to calling it an actual language (to get funding) because I dont believe it is - no more than the words and phrases I knew growing up.
Interestingly (for me) the older generation believe that my grandfathers vocab was a donegal version of alstar skats.
The use of 'State' being one term he would use to describe certain areas - eg sperrin state (the area around the sperrins Derry/tyrone) or Innishowen state - where his family originated from.
I just find the responses a little ignorant and closed minded. Fine if you havent heard of it, but dont tell me its wrong just because you havent. I'll leave it at that, it is looking daft I'd admit.

Again, just because it's used - and i'll take your word for it, on the basis that I can find no other reference to it online and no one here seems to have heard of it - doesn't mean it's correct to use it as such.

Ulster Scots is a good example you've given yourself - you say it's not a language - presumably those who say it is a language are wrong and don't know the definition of the word 'language'.

It's like people who'd argue that Ulster is the 6 counties - i'd tell them they're wrong too.

You made reference earlier to Northern Ireland not being a country - are people wrong if they say it is a country? Or is it okay to ascribe whatever definition you want to a word - to use artistic licence?

[Rossfan]

" Figures released today by the Standards Commission show political parties disclosed donations worth just €33,606 for 2012.

Donations disclosed by the Socialist Party amounted to €24,600; Sinn Féin disclosed €6,000 and Comhar Chríostaí - The Christian Solidarity Party disclosed €3,006.

No other party disclosed any donations in 2012".

Does this mean that none of the SF TDs donate any of their Salaries to the Party ( other than the €6k - from Aengus I believe)?
Or else the Party made a false return? I would estimate that if they were keeping to their oft stated practice of donating anything above the average industrial wage to the party each TD would be donating about €20k per annum.

Nally/Lawnseed please clarify 

[lynchbhoy]

Have you never heard people referring to areas using the word state?
Eg
The sperrins state
North western state
North eastern state
Allen state ( abrieviated version of big of Allen state) etc

In a word, no.

+1.
Lynchboy - just move on to another subject as you're not covering yourself in much glory or common sense in this one

maybe so, while not coming across well, the point is that there are weird and colloquial terms and prhases used in this country.
Just because people havent heard them doesnt mean they dont exists- I dont expect to many to have heard other phrases that I may have grown up with that were staple parts of my grandfarthers vocabulary.

but no one has the right to say that the use of any of these is right or wrong.
My initial objection was to being told what I meant in what I said- a bugbear of mine.
I dont care how daft I may look, I have experienced things that obv others have not - I'd not be telling others that they couldnt use words or phrases.
Its a bit like alstar skats - whily I dont deny it exists and is used in ways, I only object to calling it an actual language (to get funding) because I dont believe it is - no more than the words and phrases I knew growing up.
Interestingly (for me) the older generation believe that my grandfathers vocab was a donegal version of alstar skats.
The use of 'State' being one term he would use to describe certain areas - eg sperrin state (the area around the sperrins Derry/tyrone) or Innishowen state - where his family originated from.
I just find the responses a little ignorant and closed minded. Fine if you havent heard of it, but dont tell me its wrong just because you havent. I'll leave it at that, it is looking daft I'd admit.

Again, just because it's used - and i'll take your word for it, on the basis that I can find no other reference to it online and no one here seems to have heard of it - doesn't mean it's correct to use it as such.

Ulster Scots is a good example you've given yourself - you say it's not a language - presumably those who say it is a language are wrong and don't know the definition of the word 'language'.

It's like people who'd argue that Ulster is the 6 counties - i'd tell them they're wrong too.

You made reference earlier to Northern Ireland not being a country - are people wrong if they say it is a country? Or is it okay to ascribe whatever definition you want to a word - to use artistic licence?

Apart from having effectively been granted country status in soccer, NI is not a country in the same way as other countries - gov , law etc etc.

While I don't believe it is a real country, people can call it one if they like.

Don't want to dwell on it but aside from the colloquialism,
I wrote about the six counties calling them a state, and my meaning in my sentence was not one of a political state.
You may not agree with my word usage but that's my perogative. It's not school or for anyone else to correct. It's not as if others don't do the same.
The self appointed grammar police on here are bad enough with their ignorant nit picking!
Imo its actually bad manners apart from anything else.I am not going to keep on about this.  I know I should have ignored it earlier.

[Maguire01]

I hadn't realised you were so sensitive. Or that it was so ignorant or bad mannered to debate a point.

[Maguire01]

" Figures released today by the Standards Commission show political parties disclosed donations worth just €33,606 for 2012.

Donations disclosed by the Socialist Party amounted to €24,600; Sinn Féin disclosed €6,000 and Comhar Chríostaí - The Christian Solidarity Party disclosed €3,006.

No other party disclosed any donations in 2012".

Does this mean that none of the SF TDs donate any of their Salaries to the Party ( other than the €6k - from Aengus I believe)?
Or else the Party made a false return? I would estimate that if they were keeping to their oft stated practice of donating anything above the average industrial wage to the party each TD would be donating about €20k per annum.

Nally/Lawnseed please clarify 

Some creative cross-border accounting possibly? Donations don't have to be published in the north - and I'm not certain, but I don't think donations are capped in the north either.

[Rossfan]

The self appointed grammar police on here are bad enough with their ignorant educated nit picking!
Imo its actually bad manners

Basic grammatical errors like that are most offensive to us ladeens

[lynchbhoy]

The self appointed grammar police on here are bad enough with their ignorant nit picking!
Imo its actually bad manners

Basic grammatical errors like that are most offensive to us ladeens

somewhere in the realm of hypocrisy and irony

[Maguire01]

The self appointed grammar police on here are bad enough with their ignorant educated nit picking!
Imo its actually bad manners

Basic grammatical errors like that are most offensive to us ladeens

And is ignorant not the opposite of educated?

[lynchbhoy]

I hadn't realised you were so sensitive. Or that it was so ignorant or bad mannered to debate a point.

Dont think I could ever be accused of sensitivity.
nope - bad manners to try to tell people what they mean or what they can or cannot write.
dont try and kid yourself you were indulging in debate. I should of ignored you rather than tried to take time and explain.
Others would have told you to f off.